I know it wouldn't work for most metal productions, but wanted to share: I have been practicing recording a band live off the floor and tried this old technique I found that had been used on Beatles recordings that sounded way better than I expected. I used only 3 mics: I set up a ribbon mic about 6-8 feet back from the kit at kick drum height, a single mono overhead ribbon mic, and a large diaphram condenser close micing the snare (I aimed it directly at the shell approximatly in the middle between the skin and snares) and this sounded fantastic! Easily my favourite drum sound that I've ever got. No gating at all, and next to no phase issues. I fed the bus into a stereo reverb and it brought out the ambience and made it feel less mono and a bit more modern. I want to try using this technique a lot more

@Ashadowtotheworld

Жыл бұрын

Yea I have experience this as well. Gernally speaking its much easier to make fewer mics sound better than many mics. Thats why it takes "more work" to make metal drums sound good.

@katielowen

Жыл бұрын

This sounds really interesting. Idk if you’ve ever seen any videos of how Kevin Parker from Tame Impala records his drums, but your technique reminds me a bit of his setup

Dude this was so simple and effective. Was struggling with my snare for so long, and this fixed everything with 5 minutes of fiddling around.

I purchased the Drum Producer Pack - GAME CHANGER!

Love this stuff, Glenn! I’d love to see a series on 500 gear. From which rack is good for the price, what’s the best stuff to start with, how to set it all up. I know you have some 500 stuff on here but I’d love to see it as a series. Love ya!

5:36 - Glenn - "And that's just Spank City!" Which is also coincidentally what I used to call my computer desk in highschool.

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

🤣

Yoo MultiBandGate actually keeps me livin!

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

me too!

Imagine tuning drums. This video is so so sooooo required! Not joking.

@pipelineaudio

Жыл бұрын

For me, this plugin works best when you actually tune the drums to specific intervals, the basic included presets are sort of built on that. But you can with the resonant knob actually get a similar effect of say thirds and 5th intervals between the heads, but its so much more present (without having to turn the drums up as much) when the drums were pretty specifically tuned. At that point, DrumEQ really can poke in or pull out of dense or thin spots in a mix

okay that drum eq is freaking dope

Boomin boomie boom boom. boom the boom. poom the poom boom. boomy boom bom.

Hey Glenn, thanks for this. I really like drum related recording tutorials. Keep 'em coming!

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree 🤘

YOURE THE SINCLE REASON I NOW LOVE YOUR GENRE OF MUSIC! IVE ALWAYS LOVED DRUMMERS IN THIS GENRE THOUGH. THANK YOU!

I bought the AIXDSP Drum Producer pack back when you talked about it years ago. Multi Band Gate is literally a genius plugin!

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree 🤘

@victorloya1590

Жыл бұрын

Oxford drumgate kills it

That's awesome, man. A mighty snare sound that kicks you in the teeth every time

This guy is a perfect balance of intelligence and humor. Well done. Great tricks!

great video glen. already have the complete AIXDSP drum producer pack. best plugins for drums!!!!! use them on every mix I do.

I feel like this video was aimed at me lol.

Yesss for live drums!!👏 sounds great Glenn!

Sounds Killer. The racks also sound like thunder. The separation is so good! I think i can hear what i call head flutter in a good way. The Breath of the head. 😳

Glenn kicks ass....All Day.....Wholesale!!!!

Awesome Glenn

Had to scoop these plugins. Thanks for the free courses!

Glenn... Oh.. Glenn.. I do not comment much but THANK YOU! I have loved your drums sounds since day 1! (or when i discovered this channel..2 years now :) Most definitely getting this pack... and the extras you give with it!!! hands down.. you are da man!! Thanks for all you do!

Been watching for years and have to say that was pretty bloody good! (and immediate), as lets face it, not many of us have the proper mic's or have the rooms to be able to experiment properly with placement. But I'll be scurrying off to my cave tomorrow to try this. Cheers!

holy crap that first change

love this video and thanks for the tour of the AIX stuff

Some real thumpin' humps! Thanks Glenn for another killer video!

Great video!

Living after midnight ! wonderful tips !

A+ content Glenn! Keep it up!

snare slaps so hard, it told me to keep its wifes name out my mouth. great info.🤣🍻

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

🤣

Dude that drum sounds amazing.

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Great video tutorial, those plugins look so tasty 😍

Just got this AIX package and I'm applying it to some tracks from Huart's site, one of those contests. It's amazing how stupidly well this works. Stu pid ly well. Everything I bothered to learn up to this point about mixing drums has almost been a total waste of time. Life, frustration, strain on relationships and bank balances, all flushed down the waste-of-time toilet....In a GOOD way!

Awesome Glenn! I'm going to go check out your toms video now.

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

oh good idea. I am new to this do you have a recommendation on what tom video to start with?

Oh wow!!! Not only do you get Glenn's courses, but the plugin is also on sale for only $60 USD! 😵

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

black friday came late 🤣

Haha, Glenn said hump. lol Seriuosly, great video, love how easy it (mixing real drums) can be with the right tools.

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree 🤘

The DRUMEQ is pretty genius! It can turn a garbage snare recording to a sample-like result. Thank you Glenn for showing this to us! I prefer sonnox oxford drum gate to gate my drums though. Works wonders on the cymbal bleed on snare and toms.

I appreciate you keeping your drums sounding like real drums and not dubstep samples. Thank you, Glenn. I've been learning drum tracking tips from you since like 2007 (Sneap Forum).

@pipelineaudio

Жыл бұрын

Although if you did a dubstep remix for this it would be epic

Always, always, always - snare tone. Couldn't agree more, and I think I'm finally gonna pull the trigget (no pun intended) on that AIX multiband gate.

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

It's killer!

@pipelineaudio

Жыл бұрын

Just to make Glenn super happy, MBG DOES have a MIDI output on galte close events that you can specify in settings so you can add a trigger anyway :) BLASPHEMY!

Wait wait... what?? I never heard about this multiband gate. What the heck? Praise Krom!

" boots, cats, boots, cats ... " (* - Stevie T. ) Let's make a snare drum 🥁 Sound like Lars', from Metallica, on the ' St. Anger ' LP, album 🤦🏻 😹🤣😹🤣😹🤣 🤘🏻😸👍🏻

@PooNinja

Жыл бұрын

We always said, boots n pants n boots n pants 😂

@pipelineaudio

Жыл бұрын

Boot camp booty camp! ALL BOW before power metal

Finally Deathcent video from you

Nice very nice great sound love your videos

Awesome

Awesome drum sound. :D

Great video Glenn… will this also work with drum programs? I find it difficult to get that killer sounds from programmed drums. Thanks for any advice. Keep slaying it man 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

Going good

I personally love getting the kick in the bottom snare mic. I find that the bottom snare mic turns into a really good punch mic for the snare and the kick since it adds a sizzle to the two drums. I’ll expand the bottom snare, compressor the shit out of it and then set it right in the happy medium between the the close mics for the kick and snare

Thank you for showing your process. Monster sounding snare. I do like a little bit more of the resonant frequency though.

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

me too

Damn I hadn't seen that drum EQ before, definitely looks like an interesting plugin.

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree 🤘

@TheeRocker

Жыл бұрын

You can actually do this in the daw with stock eq. Find the fundmental and double up. It just does the math for ya and a nice interface to show what you need to know.

@Ashadowtotheworld

Жыл бұрын

@@TheeRocker yea I get that, but there is nothing wrong with a nice interface and plugins that automate certain aspects of the worlflow for you. Its all about the user friendliness. That sort of thing can go a long way when you got to make thousands of little decisions in the course of mixing a song.

@TheeRocker

Жыл бұрын

@@Ashadowtotheworld yep, I know. Just thought I'd mention it. Many don't know this ;)

Glenn you have lost a bunch of weight, I hope you're well mate! Thanks for the trick

Thanks for sharing!! I'm sure my recordings have been getting better. Also remember the Loud max !!!

I would love a similar episode about kick drum!

Ooooof when you bring it all in at the end

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

I was amazed at the end. Sounded really good imo.

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Happy to pass along the knowledge!

Very interesting

ty bro

🙌

Just like the boss said...to get the snare drum sound he wants. So if your happy the way You want it...don't worry. Its just ones personal preference and opinion.

KILLER!!!!!! Damn this is GOLD, thank you! I only deal with "real" drums and end up having to add, or totally use samples.

Since I've watch your tom cannon video I apply the same trick to the snare ^^

Gleeeeeeeeen! Thank you dude!!! I just opened a session and tried this. Happy to tell you I DELETED the samples I had blended. No shit dude, was sitting here mumbling "holy shits" to myself for twenty minutes. Used the math because I don't have the drum eq but what a difference! I was wondering why after using 421's on a set of Sonors, I didn't get better tracks. I just didn't know what to do with them lol. They are awesome! Many thanks Dude! Have a stellar day!🤘

Great

What’s important to note is that the source tone is really good. If you don’t have a good source tone then you’re gonna have a harder time mixing it

@dooshnukem32

Жыл бұрын

Definitely true, quality up front makes all the difference. Drums are just a different animal, imo. I think a lot of people struggle with live drums because even great recordings kinda sound like garbage until you get some balancing and shaping done. It's just so many mics picking up the same sounds from different perspectives, even well-recorded frequency buildup is still buildup.

It seems to me a fantastic way how you use the bottom snare drum mic to mix the transient it produces and mix it with the total snare

It seems easier than sweeping a parametric EQ. This sounds like a good plug-in to have in your toolbox.

This is absolutely gold...and perfect timing Glenn, THANKS!! Just got some killer tracks from a blastbeatin' drummer friend but am having MAJOR difficulty making that snare smack hard like I wanted. Only question, is this a plugin included with reaper? I don't believe I have it. I know you have the video about how to get a ton of extra free plugins so if I need to reference that one again to get it just lmk! Rock on dude! 🤘

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I don’t think it’s included. There’s a link in the description if your interested in the plugins.

@ColtonBeasleyMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@bj97301 thanks man !

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Get them at aixdsp. ...if you've got a lot of blast beats, the Multiband Gate can be a serious help.

@ColtonBeasleyMusic

Жыл бұрын

@@SpectreSoundStudios yer a LEGEND! 🙌

@jensharald9091

Жыл бұрын

But do keep in mind that If he's playing fast blast beats, he will never sound quite as powerful as these back beats do, not just because it's fast, but he's likely not "rim-shotting" when playing those either. That's the way it's gotta be with blast beats. Some black metal drummers never rimshot in order to even out the difference in power. Don't beat yourself up over it, as we can't make everything sound like everything. He probably knows lots of it comes down to how he hits and his choice of drums as well. Actually, you probably know all this too. (In a way it's kind of obvious that the performance matters a whole lot, but some mixers seem to forget and forget to forgive when the pressure is on) Haha. Cheers.

🔥🔥🔥🔥

Damn Glenn, nice! Now, show how you got those Toms sounding so phenomenal!

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Link for that video is at the end!!

Cue mad scientist voice.... "It's the greatest snare mixing trick IN THE WOOOOORLDDD!!! Mwahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa!"

I am sure using fab filter EQ, you can do the exact same thing as this eq. It can show you resonant frequencies, so you can turn them down specifically.

I like that you don't look down on people that haven't mastered the art of recording a snare drum.

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

It takes a LOT of work. I’m happy to help

@pipelineaudio

Жыл бұрын

Its tricky stuff, even Bob Rock often messes it up, ask Lars

I think I'm going to have to download this. As much as I like spending hours equing well into madness, this seems like a very helpful tool! Now my only issue will be trying to explain to people that you only have so much sonic space in which you can work with and... you cannot just keep cranking levels otherwise everything will be distorted and clipping.

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Tell them it's "mixing". ...that means give & take. Otherwise it would just be "turn everything up."

@1337murk

Жыл бұрын

@@SpectreSoundStudios and/or, remind them it's a mix*down*, and not a mix up lol

@pipelineaudio

Жыл бұрын

"everything can't be louder than everything else"

@landersm223

Жыл бұрын

@@pipelineaudio It's really difficult sometimes to try to get people to understand that just because a certain aspect of the song isn't glaringly obvious, that it's not exactly where it's supposed to be, "in the mix"; providing an overall good sonic picture.

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

very true

Good morning glenn!

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Good morning, Scott!

I like this angle of the room, Glenn. Mix it up. Lighting is nice too BTW. :)

@russtycogg324

Жыл бұрын

It looks like a 'late-night secret' we're in on. :)

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Ty! Thought I’d try something new!

With the reverb are you putting it on an aux or directly on the track? I always put mine on an aux and I figured you would too, but the whole 80% dry threw me off. If it's on an aux, why not just have it fully wet and send less signal to it? At any rate, I appreciate the tutorial. It sounds great.

Hey Glenn, what do you think of the Silencer(black salt audio)? Would nice to hear, what you think off. Cheers Mike

Hey Glenn! What do you think about the new Waves plugin, BB Tubes? Good tool or a scam? If it's a scam, well, they got me but they also got Warren Huart too. Love your shows and your pure honesty/ Keep it up, bro!

4:48 Im kinda curious on what you’ve got going on behind you for your room treatment.

Interesting workflow. Speaking of instrument specific plugins, I wonder how the specter bass plugin is doing.

@werewolfmedialv

Жыл бұрын

same!

@beovulf7241

Жыл бұрын

For real! That bass sounds 🔥

Do you still use that debleeding plugin you used to push?

For an obvious AIX ad, this was a pretty good video. I just wish it was more clear it was an ad from the beginning.

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

See the “included paid promotion” declaration at the very beginning of the video

How can i record drums with 2 p170 low diaphragm mics 1 rode nt1 And p20 kick mic. ONLY with xy orAB and kick and snare? Or nt1 between drummer And floor tom for Toms And 1 for snare kick And 1 overhead? Idk , Can you show IT?

I'm really hoping this will be about the Def Leppard snare!

@pipelineaudio

Жыл бұрын

aiXdsp iconic reverb, Audio Assault XCTR, blend in a lin drum snare sample to taste and see Bobby Huff's KZread videos if you want the pitch shifted part of it, I think he even has a sample that will help (Don't tell Glenn)

@davetbassbos

Жыл бұрын

@@pipelineaudio haha nice, I was being a wise guy but I will check that video out, I also think on an old Pensados Place they talked with the engineer from some of those records and talked a little about the snare, about as 80s as you can get along with the Phil Collins toms,lol, Cheers!

Hey glenn, did you use the virtual mix rack on the global EQ channel?

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

No.

how dose the multiband Gate handle ghost notes from the snare?

Great video Glenn! Curious if you have advice for those of us who only have a top snare mic to work with? Most of the drum tracks I receive only have 1 snare track. Thanks!

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Insist the bottom is miced as well

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

@@SpectreSoundStudios good idea

@KarenBasset

Жыл бұрын

You could try adding a little eq around 8k to bring out the snares. But ask them to mic that bottom head in the future!

@aaronpaul4592

Жыл бұрын

@@SpectreSoundStudios I will attempt to get the drummer to spend money LOL

Fantastic video. Thanks Glenn!

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

You’re very welcome

How do you mix skin flute?

@kellykellerstein-meatchamb5361

Жыл бұрын

Ask your sister.

@morbidmanmusic

Жыл бұрын

Don't be a stupid dork.

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@tortillaman2491

Жыл бұрын

@@kellykellerstein-meatchamb5361 Too late. I asked your mom already.

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

I was going to say "ask your mom" but you beat me to it. No pun intended.

Glenn! I remember you talking about a Jojo Mayer trick which consisted in making a parallel snare track and using a Transient designer to crank the sustain. I can't quite find the video where you showed it, any chance anyone remembers which one it was?

@katielowen

Жыл бұрын

That sounds awesome; I’m def interested in finding that too!

What mic are you using for this video Glenn? Rode Procaster?

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Lauten

Are these demos available just to listen to? Most of them are bangers.

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

Hi Glenn, thanks for the video. I went out and bought the AIX pack but when I tired to download your courses, it said the codes I was provided with had expired. I lodged a ticket on your website. I have used the AIG plugins and yes, they work great. PS: The codes worked this morning so all good!!! Not that I mix metal however I am interested nevertheless

@SpectreSoundStudios

Жыл бұрын

Glad they got it sorted!

Great video! I've always thought using snare samples is kind of strange, because a snare sample is just a well-engineered recording of a snare drum. If someone doesn't have nice gear to work with I can see where samples might help punch up a mix, but why not just get the real thing and do it right in the first place!

@jorrickthole6505

Жыл бұрын

Do it right ? At 240 bpm blastbeats, during a 7hour recording session ? Not as easy as it seems maybe. Wait !! Its not easy at all 😕.

@katielowen

Жыл бұрын

Record and mix real drums, with average gear, at your home, and you’ll know 😘

@DVaderOfMusic

Жыл бұрын

It can also help add some more depth or frequencies to give the snare more oomph. I actually recommend taking samples of the snare you are using and edit a few hits then blend it since you have it isolated.

@koalanectar9382

Жыл бұрын

@@DVaderOfMusic Haha, I actually do that exact thing. In fact I usually record samples of every drum and cymbal on the kit after the mics oom are ready to go. Blending samples that aren't from a completely different session ecording environment (which is unavoidable when using sample packs) goes a long way to maintaining a consistent sound. It really depends on genre. For jazz I'd never even consider samples of any kind. For polished rock and pop it's a no-brainer.

Is that reverb on the snare before it goes through the busses? Does the reverb end up going through the parallel compression or is the compression happening before the reverb and if so how did you separate it?

@BeatsAndMeats

Жыл бұрын

No, in this example, he has a Drum Buss that goes to the Master Fader. a Drum Crush (parallel compression) going to the Master Fader, and the Drum Verb going to the Master Fader.

@bj97301

Жыл бұрын

@@BeatsAndMeats ahh i see. Thank you.

Wow, actual content! Too many ads all the sudden.

@mrcoatsworth429

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't this an ad?

But how do I get that wicked 'W.A.S.P. Live in the Raw' snare sound? 😁🤘

Thanks for this, the toms sound a bit boomy though.

It would be cool if you could have a custom SMG eq called "Spank City"

Would you recommend this plugin on a sampled kit? I'm using one of the kits in Cubase 12 Pro. Yeah, I know. I should buy your drums but right now, I simply can't and that's it in a nutshell.

@alexnasla

Жыл бұрын

Yeah drumEQ especially is priceless on drums regardless if samples or not

i like using expander instead of gate,