Polan strong !

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Indeed

@RPe-jk6dv

7 ай бұрын

the strenght ofpoland is justt he weaknesso of germany.

The Greater Poland Uprising is not popular in Polish historiography. Poles won this uprising and this is against the tradition of losing uprisings. In Poland, disasters such as the Warsaw Uprising 1944 are traditionally celebrated.

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I realised this as well when I visited Poznań. The Uprising of 1956 is remembered a lot more there and they even built a massive statue to remember this event. I just find it interesting that the failed uprisings take up such a massive part of Polish historiography.

@divinusvideo69

Жыл бұрын

@@SirManateee I suggest you read up on "Winkelriedism" for a better understanding of that mentality. There is still to this day a tendency among Poles for portraying Poland as the Winkelried or Christ of nations. It is tied to polish literature of the 19th century and the way polish identity was romanticized during that time.

@borisbrosowski6630

11 ай бұрын

Poland did basically not "win" it. The uprising first was a communist one, not a nationalistic one, with germans and poles equally sharing the communist power. Then poland sent in troops that abolished the councils and put in nationalistic administration. Germany was not allowed to send in troops under the armistice conditions, this is why they had to improvise the "Freikorps". Just as the Freikorps were starting to gain back control, a prolongation of the armistice of 1918 was to be negotiated in Trier. Basically the allied threatened Germany with another outbreak of the war if the Germans would not accept a ceasfire. Although the outcome was positive for Poland, it was not a "win" but more of a plundering and left a VERY bitter taste in the mouth with those Germans that had advocated Polish autonomy.

@kreuner11

8 ай бұрын

​@@borisbrosowski6630any sources I could search for the communist part?

@cybernetic-ransomware1485

8 ай бұрын

At least in schools in Greater Poland, knowledge about this uprising is very well disseminated (Pniewy, Lwówek, Western Front).

Fun fact: There were actually 4 Greater Poland uprisings: in 1794, 1806, 1848 and 1918. Hovewer all of them are called just Greater Poland uprisings. Which is interesting because there were 3 Silesian uprisings and They are called: First Silesian Uprising 1919, Second Silesian Uprising 1920 and Third Silesian Uprising 1921.

@fatchins9126

11 ай бұрын

jesus thats alot of silesian uprisings in such a short time frame

@jakubskrzypczak2172

8 ай бұрын

Było 5 powstań wielkopolskich , 1- 1794, 2-1806 wygrane ,3-1846 , 4-1848 , 5-Największe i najbardziej udane 1918-1919 taka mała poprawka 😊

@Pik180

2 ай бұрын

@@fatchins9126 They were able to launch them so quickly because insurgents were aided by the Polska Organizacja Wojskowa, Polish police+military and the French occupying forces, while the counter-insurgents were local self-defense units supported only by German volunteers (Freikorps) who were told to stand down by Italo-British soldiers, Reichswehr career-soldiers and the J*w-lovers in Weimar. The idea to split Silesia was not local and organic but a French imperialist plan. And by French I don't mean the French people either but the J*w-lovers from Paris. It was a brother's war and a game of divide and conquer against Poles and Germans which lasts til this day. RIP to all who fought.

I'm almost angry how little subscribers and attention you have with this level of quality! Those of us here appreciate it.

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, that means a lot to me :D

I appreciate the effort you put into correct pronunciation of Polish names. Good episode

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Polish is such an immensely beautiful language

@dreuvasdevil9395

Жыл бұрын

@@SirManateee thank you :)

@MW-fo5lh

3 ай бұрын

lol@@SirManateee

5:28 I am from Polish family who lived in southern Greater Poland at least since 1790 (this is how far records go). My grand-grandfather was fighting for German Empire during the WW1 and he lost a leg in the war. Not sure what was his views on Greater Poland uprising or Polish independence, but I doubt he took any of the sides while he was already legless. Then 1939 came, my family lived like 10 km from Polish-German border so the town fell in the first day of war and displacement of Poles started already in 1939. And from the very muddy relations of family members, of whom nobody was alive back then, it seems that for my grand-grandfather it was beyond comprehension, that he, who fought for Kaiser 20 years earlier, is not treated with dignity that veteran of German army deserved. So he, with his wife and children, was forced to march hundreds kilometres to a working camp, but as you can imagine, it is quite a ask from a man without a leg, so he was taken out from the column and shot. His wife and children managed to the whole way alive and spend only few days in the camp, because my great-greatmother was fluent in German and somehow negotiated that she and all her kids will go together work on farm of some German landowner who did treat them with at least some dignity. So, we have a married couple of Poles, who spoke fluent German and the husband was German army veteran. Probably indistinguishable from the Germans (if not for the fact that their kids were not fluent in German) and perfectly integrated into German society pre-1918 and yet they were treated like pest. And I wonder, how many Poles believed that they can be "normal" citizens of German Empire and served German Empire in good faith, and how many of them felt betrayed by country they once served.

@tancreddehauteville764

3 ай бұрын

Very interesting story and my deep sorrow for the murder of your great-grandfather.

@Pik180

2 ай бұрын

Very interesting story but the twist is that it happened on both sides. Erich Schleiff was shot by his own former Polish brothers in arms already in 1919 and there were other atrocities before and after the war. The question we should ask ourselves is "Cui bono?". In whose interest is it that Polish and German blood flows? That certain someone is not Christian.

@Hadar1991

2 ай бұрын

@@Pik180 Not sure who you are talking about. The only Erich Schleiff I could find any information about is a dude awarded Ehrenblattspange des Heeres und Waffen-SS in 1945.

@Pik180

2 ай бұрын

@@Hadar1991 I am talking about Feldwebel Erich Schleiff mentioned on page 372 of "The End of WW1 in the Province Posen/Poznan", a report paper by Karel Górski from the Academy of Logistics Poznan. I didn't claim he was famous, in fact it's a very unknown topic. Browsers tend to hide contextual information for more sensationalist articles and prefer WW2 over its pre-history.

@Hadar1991

2 ай бұрын

@@Pik180 And what is exactly his story, because I am quite unaware of what are you talking.

my great grand father fought in this uprising. nice video

Your content really deserves hundreds or even thousands of times more attention than it gets. Keep up the good work, I will try to spread the word!

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much :D

Great video! Perhaps one could argue that saying that the idea of restoring Polish independence in the early 19th century was supported *only* by the nobility is a bit of an exaggeration/oversimplification (and that there is an additional context of the noble class being abnormally numerous in Poland) but such debate is kinda beyond the scope of such video. It certainly presents the general trends well. It could be added that Greater Poland was also a center of a successful uprising in 1806 (during Napoleon's campaign against Prussia) and so unsuccessful one in 1846, that it's often not counted and considered merely a botched _attempt_ to start an uprising. The 1848 uprising, of course, happened in the wider context of the revolutions of 1848 (the Spring of Nations) including a revolution in Berlin itself.

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the constructive feedback! Obviously, I worded that a bit poorly and overgeneralised that particular aspect, but you're absolutely right.

@rzapcia5423

Жыл бұрын

I highly recommend for you, Artur, to read professor Andrzej Chwalba's book "Cham i Pan", "Ludowa Historia Polski" written by redactor Adam Leszczyński or any other publication made by serious historians about peasant class in polish history. Sole idea of polish national identity in most of ethnically polish areas was reserved only for the upper classes of society till nearly the end of XIX century, in can be estimated that even in the times of January Uprising in 1863 polish national consciousness was somewhere between 20-30% among all of polish speaking population of Central and Eastern Europe. Most of "polish" insurections got little to no response from peasant population outside of mandatory drafts with sole exception of the 1794's one, because it's leader Kościuszko had very radical postulates and plans of societal reform, ones of which were granting full civil rights to peasants and redistributing some of the land to the rural poor. Polish travelers to America were openly saying, that black slaves were treated better than most of peasants in Poland, especially those in terrains of austrian partition, so when nobility and bourgeoisie from Free City of Cracow started their rebellion in 1846 they were nearly ecstatic when Habsburg authorities gave them a free hand in dealing with their masters and peasant uprisings covered the area of almost all of Galicja. Even the abolition of serfdom in Greater Poland was introduced with harsh reactions from our nobility, even as it was carried out in a way which gave nearly nothing for peasants of this land. Whole idea of class collaboration in our region started only after 1848 events. So this "saying that the idea of restoring Polish independence in the early 19th century was supported only by the nobility" was not an exaggeration, but a sad and justified reality.

@Artur_M.

Жыл бұрын

@rzapcia I said that I consider it to be a *bit* of an exaggeration/oversimplification but admitted that it does represent the general trends (maybe tendencies would be a better way to put it?). You yourself write about the significant participation of peasants in the Kościuszko Uprising and about the bourgeoisie. I think that the (widely understood) bourgeoisie should not be disregarded here, despite its relative underdevelopment in Poland. The society of Polish lands was a bit more complicated than just the landed gentry and magnates on the one hand and serfs on the other. Regarding the nobility itself, I don't think that most people realize that it was significantly more numerous in Poland than in most of Europe and might get a wrong idea, imagining that the idea of independence was popular only among something like the upper 2%. I think you'll agree that it would be an equally false picture as "everyone was thinking about the next uprising all of the time". BTW I admit that initially, I disregarded "Ludowa Historia Polski" because what I've heard about it made me imagine something like an ideologically driven poor attempt to write a Polish version of the work of Howard Zinn (itself controversial) rather than proper historiography, but I've read some reviews (like the one in Histmag) and it is now on my list of books to read. PS Trochę dziwnie tak dyskutować z, jak zakładam, drugim Polakiem po angielsku. Szczęśliwego nowego roku! 😉

@rzapcia5423

Жыл бұрын

@@Artur_M. szczęśliwego roku wzajemnie, a dyskusja w języku obcym to bądź co bądź dobry trening biegłości w posługiwaniu się nim oraz elastyczności umysłu. co do liczebności, to oczywiście wiem, że szlachta stanowiła 5-10% populacji u nas przy obijaniu się o ledwo 1-2% w Europie Zachodniej, ale nawet ta szaraczkowa szlachta zagrodowa była w stanie przy szczęściu, umiejętnościach i pomocy magnatów dojść do jakichś wyższych stanowisk czy zaszczytów, podczas gdy chłop, nawet najbogatszy, dalej w gruncie rzeczy był traktowany przez pana jak niewolnik, bydło do pracy i rozpłodu, a do owego XIX wieku powyżej posady sołtysa gromadzkiego raczej wyjść nie mógł. idea niepodległości była popularna nie wśród 2% populacji, a wśród większości osób posiadających polską świadomość narodową, która jak pisałem wcześniej do powstania styczniowego dobiła gdzieś między 20% a 30%, a poza te szczebelki wyszło przez pracę organiczną za pozytywizmu i młodej polski do końca XIX wieku. co do szeroko pojętej legitności "Ludowej Historii Polski" to faktycznie jest ona pisana raczej pod tezę, jeśli wiesz o co mi chodzi, ale mimo tego przeideologizowania w mojej skromnej opinii i tak należy ją uznać za przełomową, gdyż de facto rozpoczęła trend wśród prawdziwych badaczy i znawców tematu, przez co mamy na rynku coraz więcej bardziej rzetelnych spojrzeń na owy temat, z czego ja osobiście polecam wspomnianą już książkę emerytowanego profesora Chwaliby. nie stwierdziłem również nigdzie, że ktokolwiek myślał "od powstania do powstania", jedynie pisałem, że owe powstania nie miały poparcia wśród włościan, gdyż traktowali je oni jak nową formę możliwego wyzysku czy wykorzystania ich przez panów, zresztą w dużym stopniu uzasadnionego, skoro często postrzegali służbę po poborze w armiach powstańczych do służby po poborze w armiach zaborczych, a do wojsk powstańczych często powoływano osoby z poza "polskiej" grupy narodowościowej, przykład Niemców służących w wojsku Dąbrowskiego w trakcie powstania wielkopolskiego 1806 roku czy oddziałów chłopów litewskich w trakcie powstania listopadowego, chociaż kwestie narodowościowe w Auksztocie to śmieszny temat we własnym zakresie.

@Artur_M.

Жыл бұрын

@@rzapcia5423 Można powiedzieć, że zasadniczo się zgadzamy. Pewnie moglibyśmy jeszcze długo dyskutować o tym, jak dokładnie miało się niewolnictwo do poddaństwa, ale szczerze mówiąc nie chce mi się. Z tym ciągłym myśleniem o następnym powstaniu, oczywiście nie odnosiłem się do twojej wypowiedzi, tylko retorycznie zestawiałem dwa ekstremalne wyobrażenia o popularności ideii niepodległościowej. Swoją drogą wieloetniczność uczestników "polskich powstań narodowych" to też bardzo ciekawy temat.

Poland - a country with such beauftiful history of failures. Successful uprising feels a bit odd to listen about. Anyway good job on the video mate

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes, you need to focuse on the positives ;D

@Briselance

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. We French also have a wide selection of hare-brained decisions and missed occasions throughout our history. And, as you probably imagine, it continues to this day. :-(

@retrix9169

Жыл бұрын

Poland has a very rich history of successes and victories, but everyone is focusing too much on the partition period

@ladrok97

Жыл бұрын

@@retrix9169 It's only because most recent history is always most interesting

@MIMALECKIPL

Жыл бұрын

No worries. Once instate monarchy or dictatorship there will be no more failures.

as a pole i have to say that you pronounce polish words really good and overall your videos are really good too

Bravo Sir Manatee ;your grasp of history of these region of Europe is commendable; chapeau bas !

I really enjoy watching your videos! Thank you for all your hard work!

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Mnie jako polaka cieszy, że gdzieś na świecie mówią o powstaniu wielkopolskim

My grandfather was born in what was then Posen. His family emigrated to the US in the 1890s. My grandfather served in the US army during WW1. It is interesting to me to learn more about this area.

Can I just say that I am so glad that a youtuber is covering this history of our great nation, you will barely find youtubers from the west who will make videos about this history of Poland that is not just ww2 and the holocaust, and im really happy you have made this video ! you definitely have earned a subscription from me

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's sad that people tend to focus more on Poland's darkest days when it is a country with probably one of the most interesting pasts beyond those few years. Poland always fascinated me :)

Another great vid! Thank you for the sources :)

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Always happy to serve :D

Excellent video!

Excellent pedagogically clear explanatory illustration at [1:55].

My grandmother was born in Chludowa, about 1883, near Poznan. She was a daughter of a german baronet, Wilhelm von Treskow and a polish mother, born as a Gomansky, so far I knew. I never was in Poland, except one day in Zakopane, over the slovak border. Sincerely I would be interested to see that region and know more about the history of that place. My grandmother I think, leave about 1919 that birth place, changing with Berlin. I was 5 or 6 years old as my grandmother died in Bucharest, the capital of Romania, because she was married 1914 with a romanian royal diplomat, so she came after WW2 to Romania.

Could you also do a video about the 3 silesian uprisings? I think it would fit the topic.

Cool!

It is interesting that many history expositions of Nazi policies towards the east treat Lebensraum as a policy in a vacuum, but it is quite clear that rather than some kind of new idea, it was rather a more vigorous assertment of a long term political aim.

@posticusmaximus1739

Ай бұрын

It began 1,000 years earlier with "east settling"

Mans has the Simon Whistler dialect, fascinating.

3:53 Top! Genau mein Humor.

8:41 I love pierogi.

nice pfp

What about upper Silesia and West Prussia ? Were there uprisings or were they simply ceded during the negociations at Versailles ?

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

The situation there was a bit different. There was no big, organised uprising in both of these states. West Prussia was simply handed to Poland in Versailles to give them access to the sea. Danzig became a free city and there were referendums in the Eastern part of West Prussia, where people overwhelmingly voted to remain with Germany. Upper Silesia was also subjected to a vote, but there the split was less unanimous, with 60% voting to remain with Germany.

@maciejszulc2684

Жыл бұрын

It's worth adding that there was also quite a lot fighting in the Upper Silesia as well. There were in total three subsequent Polish armed uprising between 1919 and 1921, with the biggest one happening after the vote because the entente couldn't agree how to interpret those mixed results.

@ladrok97

Жыл бұрын

Those Silesian uprising got "only" 40% votes, but interestingly most of "important land" (mainly coal mines, If I remember correctly) ended in Poland, so we count them as "quasi won" uprisings

@noobster4779

Жыл бұрын

@@maciejszulc2684 correction: because Poland refused to accept the voting results and regular polish army forces illegaly crossed the then still german border and invaded, starting the "third silesian uprising". The only reason this happened was because the french ordered their troops stationed there not to stop the poles breaching the Versailles treaty. The french broke the agreed conditions of the referendum because they hated germany and wanted germany to lose as much land as possible, not giving any second thought about what the people in the area thought. And so Poland lost the plebecide (which is ironic because 60% of the population self identified as poles) because 1/3 of Poles wanted to remain in Germany Or more accuratly: Both the silesian germans and silesian poles saw themselfs as silesians and wanted the province to stay together. Poland ripped it apart by force after the plebecide didnt go into the favour of partition

@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic1139

4 ай бұрын

@@noobster4779 Forgot to add how Germans shipped thousands of people from the West who had some Silesian heritage but often never even been there before to skew the results in their favour. Also no, Poles saw themselves as Poles and Germans as Germans. Silesian identity was a thing but not to that extent. Splitting the region was the best solution to avoid etnic tensions. Uprisings made by silesian Poles prove that. It wasn't Piłsudski who fought there but Silesians themselves, the rest of Poland stayed out of it, except for providing ammunition etc. Meanwhile they fought regular German army and lost despite numerical advantages, Germans were better trained and equipped. Partisans were never crushed however and eventually the region was partitioned more or less according to ethnic lines (still favouring Germans but not as much as before).

3:53 that killed me xD as it is a meme in Germany

@teresarivasugaz2313

Жыл бұрын

Could you please elaborate? 😊

@Your_Eagle_One

Жыл бұрын

@@teresarivasugaz2313 Sprich deutsch du Hurensohn = Speak German you Son of a Bitch is a meme in germany

@Your_Eagle_One

Жыл бұрын

@@teresarivasugaz2313 i think it originates from germans saying that if (in a game, internet etc) many germans are in the lobby/chat and someone who speaks english comes in an baaam Sprich deutsch du Hurensohn

Poland was historically such a pain in the ass to subdue, so so many uprisings in literary every region

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One correction is that the Germans did want to send the army before they demobilize after WW1 but the France told them that is a nono and they have to demobilize immediatly. Thanks France, we owe You one for that.

@9Ephemeral_Star8

9 ай бұрын

That's good. Poznań returned to real owners of these lands.

3:27

ur polish is good

Ziemski is pronounced differently, it is alright though

a lot of my ancestors fought in the Armia Wielkopolska (Greater Polish Army), which not only liberated the birthplace of one of the strongest entities in the history of Europe, but also was the key to winning against bolshevik hordes in 1920. My grandpop told me that his grandfather or father was somewhere in modern Belarus and they waited for the soviet attack. They were equipped with modern, often German-made helmets, weapons, clean and tidy uniforms (which were a really, really rare sight on both sides lmao), and a lot of machine guns to support. When the bolsheviks spotted them, they immediately went from "battle mode" to, let's say, "friendly mode", and began screaming "Friends, friends! Revolution won!" and running towards the Polish lines. They did that because their commisars have told them that after defeating Poland, they will reunite with their German brothers, since a communist revolution also occured in Germany and they also became a State of the Soviets (Councils in Russian). Of course, my ancestor and his squadmates opened fire regardless and mowed down almost everyone. Cześć i chwała Bohaterom!

@onurbschrednei4569

9 ай бұрын

so your proud your grandfather mowed down unsuspecting friendly soldiers? That's pretty disgusting

@Aleks96

8 ай бұрын

​@@onurbschrednei4569They wanted to make Poland disappear and reunite with their German 'friends'. They weren't "friendly" they were just brainwashed by the propaganda.

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I mean it was always Poznań, in German still Posen

6:13 it reminded me a russian empire and their program to destroy Ukrainian nation. They used the same logic as germans, and called ukrainians as "small russians"

You glossed over TRIER, didn't you? Germany had been forbidden to use the army under the armistice rules. That's why they did not send an army in. The armistice was to be prolonged in Trier while the Versailles conference was going on and Germany was threatened with basically going back at war if they did not sign to the ceasfire on behalf of the French who tried to damage Prussia as much as possible.

the motherland? Its the fatherland 👍

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

genders aren't real

I will always love the German Empire, but their loss of Posen was very much deserved. If they just left the Polish people alone, maybe they wouldn't have a majority hostile Polish population in their country.

@Pik180

2 ай бұрын

Most of the Poles were not hostile, there was peace for 70 years from 1848 to 1918, Poles voted for the German Reichstag, the Prussian Landtag, served in the Germany Army and many Poles moved to work in the Ruhr industrial area where they assimilated and their descendants live til this day, in South-East Prussia there was an old Polish-speaking minority known as Masurians which were invited by the Teutonic Order to settle, converted to Lutheranism during the Reformation, voted to remain in Germany during the 1920 referendum and was expelled by the Communist Polish government after 1944, to an extent that til this day Masuria finds difficulty in preserving its own local traditions. This video is made by a liberal German who promotes Whigoid history (a kind of version of history where humanity progressively moves forward rather than in repeating cycles) and is not too fond of our imperial past. The partition of Poland was not solely a German matter but a European one, not just a national question but a political one, not just a Polish issue but a social one. First off, the roots of partition go deep. Medieval Poland was a very aggressive and expansive state that conquered a lot of territory through war and marriage alliances. For example, the Poles managed to achieve a personal union with Lithuania and later even Sweden. They even captured and sacked Moscow at one point, proclaiming one of theirs a tsar and supported the burghers of Danzig against the Teutonic Knights, dividing their land between Royal Prussia and Ducal Prussia. Early modern Poland, or rather the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, was a very unusual state, a sort of aristocratic republic/elective monarchy with a weird constitution which granted the nobility (szlachta) ludicrous liberties, such as the liberum veto (the ability of a single member of the Sejm, the law-making body, to veto any decision) and right of confederation (the right of nobles to do armed uprisings in protest of the government). These magnates made up 10% of the population but owned 90% of the land. Except for some townspeople and the Jews, who were filthy rich and charged massive interest to their debtors, the entire population consisted of enthralled peasant serfs disenfranchised from voting, Polish was the only official language and Catholic the only official religion, with a strict Jesuit inquisition and policy, despite large minorities of Calvinists, Lutherans, Orthodox, Germans, Balts, Ruthenians, Lithuanians etc. After Jan Sobieski died, Polish kings were basically powerless and the position was sold to the highest bidder in Europe. Even an insignificant, minor German prince, August von Wettin, known as the Strong, Elector of Saxony, managed to become Polish king. He was a very luxurious womaniser, a lavish wastrel and got completely obliterated during war, but remained popular because he didn't mess in Poland-Lithuania's internal affairs and many Poles actually wanted the Polish-Saxon union to return later. Poland's medieval aggression came to bite it back in the arse very hard. It was completely unable to defend itself against the Russian and Swedish déluge due to its own constitution. Even the Duchy of Prussia, which was secularised during the Reformation, formed a union with Brandenburg and beat the Poles. The early modern era of Polish history serves as a period of national mythology and heroism for its opponents. Ivan Suzanin, as well as Kuzma Minin and Prince Dmitri, who fought the Poles during the Time of Troubles, are Russian national heroes. Gustav Vasa, the warrior king who beat the Poles in Livonia, is a a Swedish national hero. The Battle of Tannenberg was instrumentalised during WW1 and the Great Elector, who beat the Poles at the Battle of Warsaw, is a German national hero. During the Great Nordic War and the Seven Year's Poland was merely an area to be marched through, no one took it seriously anymore. The original partition was actually a territorial compensation for Austria and Russia to solve a dispute over territoriy liberated from the Ottomans, Bessarabia, mediated by the Prussians, who were rewarded with Royal Prussia, the Warthe and Netze districs and the right to call themselves Kings of Prussia rather than Kings in Prussia, an important distinction at the time, because it denoted ownership. The second and third partitions occurred since the monarchs of Europe didn't want a Polish state after 1792. At the time, the French revolution was in full swing, the King of France was dead, Prussia and Austria were at war with France and the Polish bourgeoisie was promoting Jacobite revolutionary ideology, reforming the republic. Polish nobles who sided with Catherine the Great of Russia and used their right of confederation during the War of the Bar Confederation years prior now called for intervention, the rest is history. It didn't help that the Poles heavily sided with Napoleon and the official reason given for the invasion of Russia in 1812 was the restoration of Poland-Lithuania. So Poland was partitioned anew in 1814. Austria and Russia participated once more as well and the whole matter was blessed by the other great powers (France and Britain) at the Congress of Vienna in 1815. Prussia wanted to annex Saxony but Britain and France forbade it so it was compensated with Polish land instead. The "Polish" peasants actually supported their new overlords for a long time because they granted the abolition of serfdom, as is mentioned in the video. "Polish" in marks because a lot of them were uneducated about their own identity and for example in Austria they called themselves "Mazovians". It was the Polish aristocrats who wanted the Polish state back. What is not mentioned is that they were hypocrites because they were perfectly able to practice their culture. Chopin, Paderewski and others held piano concerts in Berlin and Vienna. If not the Germans, then the Russians would have ruled over the Poles like they did over the rest of Congress-Poland. Then again there was a significant German minority in Posen/Poznan, not just in the German part of Poland but also in the Russian partition. This is because the Poles themselves invited a lot of German and Dutch settlers during the 17th and 18th centuries and the Prussian government from 1792-1806, owning a much larger part of Poland while still being more lenient toward Poles than the later German Empire, allowed peaceful settlement by various groups such as German Lutherans, Mennonites etc. The guy who later opposed Hitler, Józef Beck, is himself the descendant of one of those settlers and so were many Polish admirals and generals. So there was a need to balance the interests of the German population with sympathy toward the Polish. This was actually a major point of contention during debates in the German revolutionary parliament of 1848 where many German liberals who heavily sympathised with the Poles and supported Polish independence clashed with the reality of those delegates from the East who saw the reality of the situation. The best analogy to Posen is the situation in Ulster prior to Irish independence in 1921. You had staunch Protestant land-owners who would denounce the state for compromising too much and Catholic detractors who would denounce it for not compromising enough. There was such a denominational divide between Poles and Germans, except there was also a Catholic German element and land-owners were worried it would assimilate too easily. This is also mentioned in a personal letter by Erich Ludendorff during exercises in Posen/Poznan from 1913. It didn't help that the Polish bourgeoisie consisted of ardent Romanticists who believed the postulate of philosophers like Fichte or Hegel that reality is not learned but constructed by the mind and hence believed they could liberate themselves militarily, because the world is ideal rather than material, by merely wanting "hard enough" to succeed. This isn't comprehensible to modern minds but people in the 19th century had such convoluted beliefs which nowadays many would consider insane. Of course, at the time any sort of revolutionary activity was a massive headache to police and gendarmes. So the Poles lost most of the autonomy they had in Congress-Poland, the Duchy of Posen and the Kingdom of Galicia-Lodomeria after the Uprising of 1830, which was actually a lot. Before that they had their own universities. After the January uprising of 1863 in Russian Poland they lost even more, like administrative autonomy, and there was fear it could spill over into Prussian Poland. Moreover, there is a not much talked about chapter in Polish-German history where the Poles clandestinely promoted the polonisation of Upper Silesia through priests and teachers. Bismarck complained about this "Radziwillian" influence in a private letter, which you can find in History of Germany, Volume X, 1871-1918, by Heinrich Pleticha. His measures can be seen as counter to that. Ultimately, by giving the Poles a finger they would take an arm. Everytime they got autonomy they thought independence was within their grasp and so they rebelled. This is a phenomenon described by French political philosopher Alexis de Tocqueville. Rulers find themselves in a dilemma where by altering the status quo in favour of demands by the opposition they end up encouraging radicals who intend to destroy the entire system, which incentivises the state against altering the status quo. So it's more complicated and nuanced than just leaving people alone or not. This video leaves out a lot of stuff and so does the video-summary, list-reading type of YT history in general. At the very least, it promotes discussion. I hope my comment could help. Cheers.

@SillyUwUBilly

23 күн бұрын

​@@Pik180Cope lol 💪🏻🇵🇱

@Pik180

22 күн бұрын

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@Pik180

22 күн бұрын

@@SillyUwUBilly 🤡🤡🤡

@Pik180

22 күн бұрын

@@SillyUwUBilly It's over. We must pay reparations or the Poles won't scrub our toilets.

Jest film o Polsce nie ma języka polskiego...smutek:(

@nopeoppeln

Жыл бұрын

angielskiego się naucz, potem wróć

@kuzynija1565

Жыл бұрын

@@nopeoppeln a weź spadaj.Chodzi mi o to że film o Polsce bez języka polskiego.I ja umiem w angielski.

@infeltk

8 ай бұрын

@@kuzynija1565 masz inne filmy o powstaniach. Zamiast jęczeć przetłumacz. Dla mnie nie musi być po polsku, dobrze, że jest po angielsku i stworzony nie przez Polaka.

Has Germany ever apologized for the brutal oppression of Poles during this colonial era? Nevermind the even worse horrors they would unleash onto the Poles during the Third Reich.

But they said the stabbed in the back was a “myth”

Interesting and informative video. Sad that Posen was lost to indigenous forces but that's pretty much given when you lose a war.

@cringe1020

Жыл бұрын

Wdym indigenous. The region is literally the birthplace of Poland. The tribe of Polans lived in Greater Poland and founded Gniezno, Poznań ect

@Aleks96

8 ай бұрын

Poznań is located in the CORE AREA of the Polish State. Poles are the indigenous people of this area!

It is Posen

@9Ephemeral_Star8

9 ай бұрын

*Poznań. It always was and will be. We won't count these 123 years of occupation.

@nopeoppeln

9 ай бұрын

bro really wants to claim the capital of the region where Polish statehood originated 💀💀

@Oberschutzee

9 ай бұрын

@@9Ephemeral_Star8 Posen*

@Oberschutzee

9 ай бұрын

@@nopeoppeln Execpt that majority were germans and everything was built by germans

@9Ephemeral_Star8

9 ай бұрын

@@Oberschutzee *Poznań.

Make Poznań Posen again!

@fabiowodczynski5602

Жыл бұрын

No. It's back where it belongs after all

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Pls no we've tried that already and then 80 Million people died

@mrcool11111

Жыл бұрын

@@SirManateee We never tried that, all we did since we lost these lands was - Failing a democracy - Voting someone who wanted to kill all Jew's in Europe, probably because a Jew stole his Toy shovel from the playground when he was 4 or something like that - This guy actually going rampage through all of Europe - Failing after Hitler did more Hitler stuff - Losing the war And after that practicing the suicide of the German "Volk" and culture I can't see where we actually just tried to get Posen back ( Although we had it during all the rampage stuff) All I can see is the slow and painfull death of a Nation since at least 1918.

@mrcool11111

Жыл бұрын

@@fabiowodczynski5602 yeah exactly like Hinterpommern, Ostbrandenburg and Schlesien I suppose

@fabiowodczynski5602

Жыл бұрын

@@mrcool11111 Pomorze Zachodnie or as you called it was a Polish duchy. Śląsk was ruled by a side branch of Piast dynasty. Even though these regions have been tied to Polish history you can't really compare them to Poznań which was the cradle of Poland and proudly resisted germanisation, no matter how many german settlers were brought onto these lands

Posen is Posen!

@DonCappuccino1

8 ай бұрын

So come and take it with your pathetic gay army

@Aleks96

8 ай бұрын

Nein diese Stadt habt ihr Deutschen 1793 besetz. Ansonsten war es schon immer Polnisch. Die Stadt war sogar Ethnisch überwiegend Polnisch.

@posticusmaximus1739

Ай бұрын

@@Aleks96 Don't speak to them in their language. They would never learn Polish, don't show respect to those who disrespect you.

Great video!

@SirManateee

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!