Right now I'm just punishing myself, knowing that the game is dead and still reading and watching everything P.T.

@DownHavenEnt

6 жыл бұрын

vinícius bastos Your punishing yourself? Heh im still doing that in 2018 smh😂😂😂

@stuudude6023

4 жыл бұрын

Quas FM what about 2019

@piyushsharma3991

4 жыл бұрын

Mee too

@gisanh

Жыл бұрын

wb 2022

@vinnybastos

Жыл бұрын

@@gisanh what?

Now in 2019... its like looking into an timecapsule....after RE7 in vr... and all we know now..

@WilTheNyanCharmander

4 жыл бұрын

In my restless dreams, I see that trailer.

You both have really nice voices for this stuff. You’re not overly youtuber expressive, but not expressionless either, and you both just generally have nice chill voices.

I fucking miss Silent Hills so much, and it wasn't even released. #FucKonami

I really love the production values on this channel. It's rare to see this much polish on Silent Hill content, so I'm very excited to see more from here. If only you could be showered with enough money to put out a new video every week.

@imhellag

9 жыл бұрын

Check out user "Marszie," he's put out some amazing in-depth high quality stuff on SH too.

You guys should make a video about (or include in a video) analysis/speculation on the meaning behind the invisible monster in the cell in Silent Hill 2, would be cool to see your take on it

wanna know the reason why the oculus rift is so scary? its pretty basic really. it inhibits our ability to simply Look away. what do you in a game when you get scared? You Look away from the screen. (maybe cover your eyes or turn away from the screen entirely). The Oculus rift Covers your eyes and is attached to your head. so no mater where you turn, the images are Always there and it tricks your brain into thinking that it really is because its all you see, the only way to not see is to take it off or close your eyes. take note that Source #8 puts his arms up in a defensive gesture, stemming back to the 'if I cant see you, you cant see me' Survival instinct that has been floating around in our DNA since the birth of human kind.

I have to say, I'm in love with the format of your channel. The presentation of your content is really quite unique and I'm a fan of how in-depth you're willing to analyze the Silent Hill series. But with that said, I'd love to see you branch out someday in the future. God knows we need more content creators like yourself. Keep up the good work and I hope to see more from The Grate Debate soon!

When's the next video? Keep up the good work! saw the other video about solving the final puzzle and it worked for me consistently!

@TheGrateDebate

9 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it! Our next video is currently in the script-writing phase. Expect it within the next week or two!

See, the thing about projects like Oculus and Morpheus is that it removes that 'barrier', between the game and it's player. That is to say, the screen. Video games, as we play them now, are clearly disconnected from reality by the fact that they're on a screen. We take in their information by proxy, not directly. But with Oculus, the images and world of a game are transmitted to us no differently than they are in real life; it's this, that opens gateways to new levels of escapism...and terror.

My first inclination is to say no way this game will come out on VR, as it would be just too damn scary. Can you imagine the repercussions (and PTSD and nightmares)? BUT I have read that Kojima and del Toro are just flat out making the scariest game possible with no regard because this is for hardcore fans and anyone who backs out doesn't matter.

Just found your channel and I love it! You guys have something special here

0:36 Well, god damn it, my boyfriend has been telling me that was just a glitch for months. I _knew_ it wasn't just a glitch.

actually, this would explain why Silent Hills haven't been anounced for anything but PS4 so far

This videos are dope !!!, keep up the good work !!!

There would be no point hiring Norman Reedus and taking all that time to perfectly render his likeness, if this game is in first person. They could of hired Troy Baker then, he's probably cheaper.

@TheGrateDebate

9 жыл бұрын

EmilyM1516 Norman's likeness could be utilized in cutscenes though! Maybe this is one of the reasons development is switching between first and third person views?

@cassinipanini

9 жыл бұрын

Two words: Reflective surfaces. Have you seen the remake of Maniac? The first 1/3 of the movie is in first person (done very well imo), and you see the main char through mirrors, reflected in car windows, that sort of stuff. It can be done and done well, but it must be done right or there's no point. With that said, it'd be an interesting approach if they are going to use the morpheus.

@tomjovi4609

9 жыл бұрын

My theory is that it's gonna work like this: 1st person for interiors and buildings, 3rd person for exploring the town and cutscenes.

@Killer666363

9 жыл бұрын

Tom Jovi or maybe on the tv it always stays in 3rd person but when you have morpheus you're looking through the character's eyes

@tomjovi4609

9 жыл бұрын

Killar666 That would be awesome. Good idea.

I sure hope they stay true to their word and make it really scary whilst still keeping the Silent Hill feel.

@justdanceparadisearchive3888

2 жыл бұрын

About that....

@Rovertimes

2 жыл бұрын

@@justdanceparadisearchive3888 I know 😭 I forgot completely I had even made that comment years ago.

I want to play this game with the Morpheus thingy lol I love horror games they give me such an adrenaline rush

There is no way I'd be able to physically handle Silent Hills on VR. I'd have a fucking heart attack.

@P0k3rm4s7

9 жыл бұрын

I don't want to die playing a VR game either :(

If that's the case, then every copy of Silent Hills would have to come with a pair of brown pants.

I would totally 100% play Silent Hills on Project Morpheus.

Could we have a Grate Debate sometime on the pros and cons of first and third person gaming?

You guys are awesome!

Three reasons why I don't think Morpheus would be the best decision for Silent Hills: 1. It seems like it would be a waste of talent to snag Norman Reedus if his performance is restricted to a first person role. Why get him on board if we only hear his voice? 2. Rebooting a franchise into something so different from the original material (from third person survival horror to first person AR horror) seems a bit irresponsible, especially with a fan like Kojima at the helm. 3. Constricting such a high profile (and I assume high budget) game to a peripheral that doesn't even have a release window (to my knowledge) neglects the majority that can't/won't buy it. I'm not saying that having some sort of Morpheus compatibility wouldn't be cool, but it should be optional/secondary rather than the core focus of the game's development.

@topher7160

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah agreed. But... Hideo Kojimas role as a developer had always been 3rd person games. If TheGrateDebate's theory is true... then the entire P.T demo was just an advertisement for Project Morpheus? There is a possibility that the game will feature 3rd person gameplay, but also First person gameplay with VR support. If Silent HIlls was just a Walk around Zoom in kinda game it would be boring and just plain (still scary) and like the title said Playable TEASER. My guess is a 3rd person game with a first person option (like GTA V) that supports VR.

Have you guys thought about doing a podcast based on the p.t demo?

Could the different flashlight colours have to do with the PS4's lightbar or move controller ? i don't know if they flash like that i'm just throwing a random guess here ..

In addition... Project Morpheus official release date - 2016. I really want your theory to be right!

Are you guys ever going to release any videos about the old Silent Hill games?

@TheGrateDebate

9 жыл бұрын

Yes, we even have scripts written for some of them already! We've got one more P.T.-related video in the hopper then we'll be moving on to the core SH series. Thanks for being patient!

@Joe_Blackman

9 жыл бұрын

TheGrateDebate oooh you guys keep getting me all exited

@Scharfster

9 жыл бұрын

TheGrateDebate OMG yes! You are a godsend, lol. Twin Perfect's Sh stuff are waaay to stubborn fan opinion based.

@Killer97

9 жыл бұрын

Gabe Scharf Twin perfect was focused on whats right rather than what makes you feel smart

This conscious swapping idea is giving me Virtues Last Rewards vibes. Any body else agree? If your not familiar with it, psychics (or espers) can travel forward and backward in time by sending their consciousness into their own body that is in the future or past.

Walking through Silent Hill, constantly glancing behind me, peeking around corners ... I can see it working. I am getting more and more priced out of being able to play, though.

Another small thing in favor of the possession theory. It can be totally unrelated, of course, but I was always surprised by the first thing you see in the game - those two connected cockroaches. Why are they connected? Why aren't there a few separate ones instead? Why is that the first thing in the vision? Perhaps I'm reading too much into random stuff, Anyway, I love your videos. I hope to see more in the near future.

WHAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN It would have made billions even if it cost millions

Is it just me or does the swinging fridge remind you of the game the white chamber?

feels bad man

2:42 I want to cover my eyes but I can't! Damn you Oculus Rift!

This would be a great direction to take the series a good survival horror game would be awesome with VR

i would really enjoy silent hills going first person i mean if the silent hill franchise is great in third person the possibilities can be even better taking a first person perspective,

The message in Swedish !? THEY WANTED PEWDIEPIE TO FIND OUT !

@Trialtrex21

9 жыл бұрын

Because Pewdiepie is the only Swedish person on the planet. Of course!

@imhellag

9 жыл бұрын

A game dev can't simply ignore the Pewd effect on their product (look at Flappy Bird). But deliberate pandering to the screamo let's play people is just cheesy and not clever at all. It's not what I imagine this super high budget project to aspire to. Not even a little bit.

Silent hill on a VR headset? NOTHING COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG HERE!

Man, so sad to see thsi videos now :c

Why does everyone keep saying that old-school Silent Hill didn't have jump scares? Observe the following from SH1: Let's Play Silent Hill 07 - Not Scary At All! (VoidBurger's LP, actually). And that's the second time you're at that locker: The first time, a cat jumps out at you. It literally jumps out in order to scare you. Or just go to the very start when you pick up the radio, and a bat-monster-thing crashes through the window. Point is, jump scares are not new to SH, as far as I can tell. They've been there since the very first game.

@TheGrateDebate

9 жыл бұрын

ferchrissakes You haven't been blocked! For some reason your comments are being sent to our "Likely Spam" tab, so we have to manually approve them to appear on our videos. Hopefully approving these comments will prevent that from happening again!

@ferchrissakes

9 жыл бұрын

TheGrateDebate Wow, ok, weird. Maybe it was because the comment contained a link? Ironic, since it's a link to VoidBurger's LP :) Anyway, thanks for letting me know! I'll clean up the duplicates.

I personally don't want the game to be on the morpheus project. Or even in first person. None of the games before has done it and it has too much become a staple of survival horror games. Plus why make a big reveal about Norman Reedus being the protagonist if he will barely even be shown during the game? Silent Hill games are all about character studies so it would be nice if the new one at least has that.

@MrOwNaGe95

9 жыл бұрын

Uh... There was first person in Silent Hill 4:The Room.

@alexherr7767

9 жыл бұрын

I love my fuckin' nostalgia goggles.

@AllPro777

9 жыл бұрын

***** Not only that, but it's not like Heather HAS to use Morpheus. I'm sure the game will still play fine without it...

@hapenisawaits4161

9 жыл бұрын

shut the fuck up, no one wants your opinion.

@GreenWormJello

9 жыл бұрын

Raid only a very small portion of that was first person. Also it's not nostalgia goggles to prefer third person survival horror. Y'all need to calm the fuck down xP

me and my friend just taking about it. what if silent hills comes to "Project Morpheus" that wil be very scary and a good reason to buy Morpheus head site. we are very excited for both "Project Morpheus" and silent hills. ( you guys are the best, love your channel ).

About other realities in P.T. It's called "Silent Hills" at the end. Silent Hills in different realities? I guess that could make sense since there is Other world and all that.

mmm I though the final scene in the pt demo is trying to let you notice the transition from first person to 3rd person by slowly showing his foot and finally the character, so saying that the game will be in 3rd person like any silent hill game, and the whole demo is like a reference to SH4, maybe this game will combine the 1st and 3rd person like SH4, I don't know, I think that we need a 3rd person perspective in a silent hill game, but I watch the PT demo over and over and is so good and so scary, and so well done, maintaining the creepiness of silent hill but taking it to a whole new level, sadly, with this fantastic teaser, by the time when the game comes out, the hype will be so high that the game will never cover our expectations :(

@Repsevroivas

9 жыл бұрын

2016 is such a long time away that things should have a good chance to coalesce into a grand fireball onto the human mind. Maybe then after such shock from a mere game will people begin to wonder what on Earth we are doing to need such things..

Shit if Silent Hills is as scary as P.T I sure as hell am playing this game with a Morpheus! I shat my pants enough with my screen and the lights off...

VR will desensitize you when you get used to it, like raiden said in the mgs 2 training people to be a killer via VR is possible...

who is the paper bag in p.t ???

If silent hills relies on jump scares to freak people out, then gaming is truly dead

Okay. That spider thing was goddamned evil.

@biznubizzness4783

7 жыл бұрын

indeed.

im from sweden so when i played that game and heard that radio talking at swedish i almost sh*t my pants

I should hope that third person perspective can be toggled on and off. Because I was planning to get this game when I can, unfortunately, If I can't play it like the classic silent hill. Then I just can't see myself enjoying it. They've screwed up many silent hill games in the past. Well, like 2 or 3 titles, but they said they were going to bring silent hill back with its original glory. But I've yet to see something compelling and good enough to make me want to buy it. And as long as there aren't that many jump scares, maybe as much as silent hill 1, and the monsters actually have been thought out this time, and they don't look like zombies, then I'm good. I came up with a monster, I was planning to donate to them, since I work on art; I call him the chef of hell. He's based on the missionary's design, from silent hill 3. Let's just hope Hideo Kojima makes it playable to everyone's standards. 😀

Oh man, leave it to Kojima to make a game super meta

@Benjamslikestrains

6 жыл бұрын

Cider Bizet and leave it to Konami's president to try and force them to make a F2P silent hill game on mobile causing the project to be cancelled

Hello everybody! in my humble opinion, Silent Hill games are not based on jumpscares and screamers like P.T. is, I'm kinda worried about that because we want to play a full Silent Hill experience, not just a spooky house full of enigmas and mystery like P.T. I'm not saying that is something bad, I'm saying that SH is much more (come on Kojima and Del Toro! anyone can make a spooky house but, you both are capable of make much more than that). Furthermore, the game has to be in both perspectives, first person for interiors of houses and buildings; this would be a new element in the series as in SH4:TheRoom. Third person for exteriors and exploration of the town; this is a classic element of the series and just because of that it must continue. Definitely, Project Morpheus has to be optional or completely discarded of this game because virtual reality is experimental technology and Kojima Productions can't rely the whole game on this technology, that move would be stupid and beside that, if Silent Hills would be completely on first person perspective using only VR. What is the point of hiring Norman Reedus? .-.

@havelthesnacc8753

9 жыл бұрын

You made great points

@stefanomusilli7001

9 жыл бұрын

PT is not based on jump scares. Also, the feeling Kojima wanted to give was kinda like the one from an indie crappy horror game (Outlast, Daylight), so that he could hide the fact that it was a big project hidden behind the demo. So don't worry, this was just a teaser, the gameplay for the actual game will be completely different. But as I said PT isn't based on jump-scares. It's actually really spooky and atmosferic.

@brinkoftime

9 жыл бұрын

Stefano Musilli Actually, in my opinion, one of the greatest "atmosphere breaking" event is when lisa suddenly jumps in your face. At first it's really spooky and effective, but then it becomes downright an annoying mechanic... Of course there are various segments that are really creepy and works perfectly in a psychological horror sense in PT.. maybe those lisa insta jumps could be triggered way less often during hauntings, or only during some loops in the endgame..

make more plz :D

Such innocent times lol

I just want see silent hills and destiny for the ps4 become project Morpheus compatible.

2016 you say?

I hope this game won't turn out to be a disappointment

@hapenisawaits4161

9 жыл бұрын

nothing is disappointment if Kojima is in :)

@KidsWithGuns1992

9 жыл бұрын

Hobo Fluffy If the game ends up going ahead, judging purely by the PT - it will be unbelievably excellent. A proper horror game, working on the psychology of the human mind instead of simply just cheap jump scares. The whole concept around it is immensely intriguing too - multiple dimensions, different minds, I hope more than anything the game does in fact release at some point.

@Trash_prince

9 жыл бұрын

Told you it's gonna be a disappointment

Sony confirmed that all games would be compatible with PS VR so if you have the P.T already, it should work

lol, P.T. stands for playable teaser, it's not part of the name for the game.

Because it's silent hill! Tha's why ''other dimension''

too bad Silent Hill was canceled today :(

silent hill ignore the limit of scary.. can't wait tough...

is it even possible? most of ps4 games run on 1080p 30fps. and to play on VR you need at least 60fps and more than 1080 (oculus dk2 runs at 1080p and it looks pretty bad).

@AllPro777

9 жыл бұрын

The PS4 runs in 60fps for 99.9% of its games. This project will do the same. Also, Sony has a lot more experience developing visual hardware than Oculus/Facebook.

@FerNYurec

9 жыл бұрын

AllPro777​ which games are 99.9℅ of its games? I got infamous second son, killzone, gta V, bf4, ac black flag, fifa 15, knack, cod aw and destiny. Fifa, bf4 and cod runs at 60fps, the rest at 30fps... So, 99.9℅? Mhh nope Facebook\Oculus will develope the headset, the hardware its the VGA you got on your pc.

@AllPro777

9 жыл бұрын

FerN Yurec There are way more games than the 3 you listed running at 60fps on PS4. You have no idea what you're talking about. I could list 10 just off the top of my head: Blacklight Diablo 3 Madden 15 Dying Light Metal Gear Solid V Murderd Soul Suspect Tomb Raider Definitive Edition Trials Fusion Warframe Wolfenstein: The New Order. And PS4 has over 300 games counting what's available on the PSN store. You don't have over 300 games. www.vgchartz.com/platform/69/playstation-4/ The list of 30fps games on PS4 is small and that is a fact, show me a counter list... and most of the time it only happens because MS puts pressure on companies to develop for parity when it comes to multi-plats and since the XBOX One struggles to get to 60fps and 1080 PS4 users have to suffer with development parity issues, that's been reported so it's not exactly news at this point.

@FerNYurec

9 жыл бұрын

Of corse a little game of the shop will run at 60fps... But all major games with next game graphics run at 30 fps... Including exclusives... I see u dont have idea about VR, if we are going to play diablo on morpheus it dont't worth it. Here you have a list: m.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_Native_Resolutions_and_Framerates

+TheGrateDebate Oh god plz no, even this video scares me. morpheus will kill me

Silent hills.. please be first person

Is the game really canceled? What if this is all a ploy to keep the game shrouded in mystery. Who knows. But I think he'll be back with some new toys...

Morpheus and PT would be too much .. I am hoping the game is third person apart from a few first person moments..maybe using the Morpheus in the first person mode would make sense but still sounds too gimmicky.. lets see what happens...

@AllPro777

9 жыл бұрын

It's not like they can't have a mode for Morpheus and a mode without...

@AdilRiazAR

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah that could be a possibility other games like GTA have done it so why not...

you should play the old silent hil games very fucking scary epsecily silent hill 3

hope its not in morpheus

So... Silent Hills VR? NOPE.

The reason first person games are "scary" is because of jumpscares as seen in the clips, jumpsscares are cheap and overused, it's true previous Silent Hill games had them but they were a very small part of it, I can't imagine Morpheus offering something more than cheap jumpscares.

@UltimaOmegaZero

9 жыл бұрын

Cheap, yet effective.

@Gigamokin

9 жыл бұрын

TheUltimateFanBoy And that's exactly the way of thinking that killed Survival Horror.

@UltimaOmegaZero

9 жыл бұрын

Gigamokin Hmm, maybe.

@NetherStray

9 жыл бұрын

Jump scares aren't the problem, though. A jump scare can get your heart racing and dreading the next corner, but if the jump scare is the only scare used, it falls short of true horror.

Is this just a silent hills channel?

@TheGrateDebate

9 жыл бұрын

Bloothehedgehog ! Nope, it's a "Everything Silent Hill" channel! We're just focused on Silent Hills and P.T. at the moment. We'll have a video later explaining exactly what this channel is and what it's aiming to do. Keep posted!

Welp. Time to invest in a PS4.

@jimmyrustles764

9 жыл бұрын

ShootingStarNeo Too late. Cancelled. Sucked in.

O gess lots of people will die because of this, PROJECT MORPHEUS must require a hearbits sensor to let you play or not scary games.

Dont know why but PT was not scary, the less real, the less scary, for me. Having PM would be really nice. Might get me jumping

@eyesinthesky4731

9 жыл бұрын

What. PT is like, the most realistic horror game of all time.

@KidsWithGuns1992

9 жыл бұрын

RAGEINGChiken But that's why I thought it was scary, because it was immensely realistic. The fact that it was just in someones home, not some crazy mental asylum or something, made it very daunting. Also the fact that it played on the psychological fears of a person rather than just seeing some fucked up shit. It had a very interesting story, and I think the best demo ever released.

@RAGEINGChiken

9 жыл бұрын

Dont get me wrong Im not saying it was a bad game. I just dont tend to get scared of ghosts and paranormal things cuz they are not real.

@eyesinthesky4731

9 жыл бұрын

RAGEINGChiken anything horror isn't real, lol.

@RAGEINGChiken

9 жыл бұрын

Kick Butt not always, there are a couple realistic horror films that are not based on ghost or demons. Some are based on gore.

4:31 "Silent Hills is expected to release in 2016" *OOF*

i think you can take vr to far...... silent hill is to far

God im so dissappinted in konami

so silent hill fans, NOW do you think third person silent hill 2 is still scary? cuz I never fucking thought it was, third person and horror is like water and oil, they just dont mix and your game's beloved CREATOR has basically stated it -.-

@Benjamslikestrains

6 жыл бұрын

Zyad48 no, I think third person silent hill 3 is though. I mean, you gave me a criminally easy question. Silent Hill 2 is the least scary in the series. Silent Hill 3 on the other hand...

why the fuck do you keep calling it silent hills? its one fucking hill the s was in pt because it was silent hills playable teaser as in the playable teaser belonging to silent hill!

@exiledentity5791

9 жыл бұрын

No Hideo is rebooting the name. That is what apostrophes are for. Silent Hill's =/= Silent Hills. I'm not thrilled about it either but it's better than Silent Hill: DownComing or Silent Hill: Shattered Hopes.

@Killer97

9 жыл бұрын

Fuck that man it sounds so unnatural

@stefanomusilli7001

9 жыл бұрын

Exiled Entity We don't know if it's a reboot

@imhellag

9 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about? This is a different game, it's meant to convey the Silent Hill brand, everything that comes with it, but also signify another chapter within that brand. It might not be a sequel, prequel, or whatever, we don't know yet. Just because it sounds fucking "unnatural" to your ears means we all got it wrong? The world and game devs don't revolve around your spoiled ass. Your attitude is just so aggravating for some reason.

@VengefulNonsense

8 жыл бұрын

+Killer97 no it was the teaser for the new game in the silent hill series called silent hills

*sigh* What could have been....🥲

Silent hills.. please be first person