Behold....this is the single most profound piece of writing ever set to paper by a mortal man.

@michaelcrouch8783

2 жыл бұрын

What about The Making Of Americans by G. Stein? I share your enthusiasm for Dostoevsky also

@uncleusuh

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelcrouch8783 Americans? I pity you, fool.

@bobbrown7386

Жыл бұрын

Well…besides The Bible (it’s inspiration), right?

@RobTheFossil

Жыл бұрын

How sick and criminal was the RC Pope? Jesus never commanded anyone be harmed or forced to follow Him. Just as sick and criminal as keeping the Bible in Latin for 1200 years so no common man could read it. Just as sick and criminal as ordering military crusades against Jews and Muslims.

@italnsd

8 ай бұрын

@@bobbrown7386wrong. He never mentioned it, don’t put your words in other people’s mouth

Dostoevsky is unbelievably brilliant. He succeeds in making the greatest argument for Christ by making one of the greatest arguments against Christ ever imagined. Pure genius. Just unreal.

@Watchman-co8es

3 жыл бұрын

Its breathtaking. And 'Experto Crede', friend, there have been, and are many, many Princes of the Roman and Jesuit Curia's that are more or less exactly as how the Grand Inquisitior was portrayed. Id highly recommend (with a word of warning first; you may uncover something unsavory) delving into the Esoteric history of the Vatican, and more specifically the Jesuit Order. John Poynders History of the Jesuits in two volumes, is a masterpiece, as is John Adam's (not written by him, but owned) History of the Jesuits written in 4 volumes of twelve. Or if annal searching isn't your parte, I would reccomend this video of historic citations about the Order: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6SGxJqTY8ezgtY.html (Only this video by Worldslastchance, I cannot reccomend any other content by them) Also, I have a personal composition of citations, which is quite extensive: docs.google.com/document/d/1wq6vGNyFRSQ2qMdXbEPnB6wR5EiCltdysG8bKcHeGMk/edit?usp=drivesdk

@katherinecross8059

3 жыл бұрын

It's telling that Dostoyevsky puts the Character of Christ with the schismatic Roman Catholics. Not with an Orthodox Bishop.

@joaquinvargas3915

2 жыл бұрын

@@katherinecross8059 Oh, you Orthodox... :)

@syndicatesanctuary8692

2 жыл бұрын

Amen

@abyzzwalker

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I'm not even christin and this chapter hit me.

The Brothers Karamazov is the greatest book I've ever read. I plan on reading it again in a few years. It's so heavy lol

@travislewis2717

4 жыл бұрын

Did you finally read it again?

@calripson

3 жыл бұрын

Freud also called it the greatest novel ever written.

@oleggorky906

3 жыл бұрын

He also arguably invented the concept of the anti hero: the person who does the wrong thing for the right reason or, the right thing for the wrong reason. If there was no Dostoyevsky there might not be no spaghetti western ala 'man with no name'. He helped to make Clint Eastwood look good! And Columbo was also partially based around Porfiry Petrovich, the gentle detective from Crime and Punishment.

@ilhamarq2805

2 жыл бұрын

Is it fast or slow? I meant ten years of time which you was spend in life? Dostoevsky is infinite

@NotAstroooo

Жыл бұрын

have you read it yet

When I read this section in The Brothers Karamazov, I was struck cold. The reasoning of the inquisitor was impeccably hard to refute yet I had the intense need to do so. Chilling.

One guy has to memorize almost a half hour of script, and the other just has to kiss him on the lips and leave solemnly. Its striking how much difference there is in the work done

'Nothing more confusing and frightening than freedom for a man' , it's a most difficult chapter I read from Dostoyevsky , still trying to understand it but certainly the most fascinating

@ianmottert1584

2 жыл бұрын

When some one is free, they are responsible for their decisions, both good and bad, wrong or right. This means that they cannot blame others, it's all on them. That's what's frightening about freedom

@italnsd

8 ай бұрын

@@ianmottert1584But then full freedom does not exist because if one had it then it would have no limitations and one would also be free to blame others. In other words, by the act of exercising full freedom one loses it because one becomes constrained by the consequences of one’s choice

"Dostoevsky gives me more than any scientist, more than Gauss! Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein

WOW! I've just read this chapter from "The Brothers Karamazov" and I admit that Dostoevsky really moved and woke up my mind! Now I am thinking a lot about everything! about god, about our faith, about Jesus and about our Universe entirely! Dostoevsky was truly Genius!

@Reporterreporter770

10 жыл бұрын

Has your Mind Changed at all ?

@cassieforevermore9920

6 жыл бұрын

just remember above all Dostoevsky was a believer!

@letolethe5878

6 жыл бұрын

Homer as a historical figure never existed. He is basically a composite of the unknown, unnamed oral and written story-tellers down through the ages who told, retold and embellished the myths and legends.

@niklastjitra1323

5 жыл бұрын

@Snaggle Toothed without Jesus, Dostoyevsky doesn't make any sense. It is his point, the Gospel.

@zarmiodrag

5 жыл бұрын

​@Snaggle Toothed What you're saying doesn't make sense. First, it's not comparable to Homer and Zeus, because understanding of or believing in Zeus and other Greek deities isn't essential to understanding of Homer's works (for various reasons I don't have time to go into right now). Dostoevsky on the other hand made the relation between humans and Christ the focal point of many of his works, and TBK most of all. And in TBK, TGI chapter is almost entirely focused on that subject. And, since there are numerous interpretations of TGI, it is rather important to remember that a believer wrote it. It's also important to remember that he chose a non-believer character to be "the author" of the poem itself in the novel. Disregarding all that as irrelevant is just ridiculous. Now, I'd never say that Dostoevsky doesn't make sense for readers who don't believe in Christ, because the perspective as described (a believer speaking through the character who's a non-believer) is complex enough to enable practically anyone, no matter where they stand on religion, to understand and appreciate what's going on. Dostoevsky was writing for atheists as well, he was actually addressing them with his novels. But he was doing all that as a true believer. If you tend to simplify the matter of religion down to "I've never seen evidence that Jesus existed so there is no Jesus", as your somewhat arrogant replies suggest, I don't think there's a lot you can understand or enjoy in Dostoevsky's works, but at the end of the day it's your choice what to read.

Can you imagine this being shown on network TV today? Nope, neither can I.

@kungfoochicken08

3 ай бұрын

If it were on TV today, the Bishop would be a differently-abled Latina woman and Jesus would be a flamboyant homosexual.

The Masterpiece within the masterpiece.

This is a work that everyone on earth should watch. The implications are earth shattering. Difficult play, great actor. RIP, John Gielgud.

@michaelcrouch8783

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I'm scared by it Reminds me of the heartless social darwins and eugenics

@tiffsaver

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcrouch8783 Or anyone who lives in Vatican City...

@abeddani992

3 ай бұрын

Excuse my intrusion..not all. Only the Chosen few❤

Michael Feast is still very much with us... Rest in paradise, Sir John. You brought this joy and the lightning.

Just read this in "The Brothers Karamazov." Quite possibly the best chapter I've ever read in any book. Just gave me goosebumps...

@radoshkenjic

4 жыл бұрын

travismalone1985 I froze after reading that chapter

@redimerfortitudo

3 жыл бұрын

Dostoevsky was was Orthodox Christian....yes....but he was fairly unorthodox in his beliefs. I wouldn't. trust him for faithful Christianity, especially this particular part of his novel. He completely mischaracterizes Jesus and the Church. Jesus used miracles, authority, & mystery for example & he continued that with his Apostles. Just read the Gospels, its pretty obvious.

@dantealighieri4857

3 жыл бұрын

@@redimerfortitudo the guy who recites the tale is Ivan Karamazov who is atheist not Dostoyevsky...

@moesypittounikos

2 жыл бұрын

@@redimerfortitudo what Dostoevsky was pointing out was Jesus refused to perform miracles to impress people.

@lotharlamurtra7924

Жыл бұрын

@@moesypittounikos i think this is it.

i m also in tears when i see this. i have seen this atleast 5 times ... i still don't understand it completely, for i don't have the worldly experience nor the intellect to full appreciate this priceless piece of literature. i can understand that this passage clearly takes us to the marianas trench of the fundamental question of evil, good, freedom, pride humility and their relation to each other. i ll expanding my mind and keep revisiting this video. thank you for posting this.

@mihaigeorgeadrian

4 жыл бұрын

@@brotherbrovet1881 I am romanian. I was raised by an orthodox christian family. I do not see it as something great.... Priests are greedy for money, while the poor people that they are preaching to are being kept uneducated and live in darkness... My grandmother who keeps these traditions ever since she was a little girl and learned them from her mother, she does not know who Jesus was, and what were his teachings... I love her and she loves me for she fought hard to keep me alive as I was growing up. I cannot deny the fact that her heart is great... but my goodness... the orthodox christianity that I grew up with is more about traditions and less about living the truth of Christ... People do not know why os it that they do what they do.... they do not understand the meaning of all these holidays... They just take for true whathever the priests have to say.... They are building a big cathedral worth a ton of money... Whilst people struggle in poverty and stupidity :(..... I am not the one who is smart....but I see with my own eyes... There are also orthodox priests that live away from the people...in small huts... And maybe they are the ones that keep the truw faith alive...but they are not known by many... "for narrow is the gate that leads to life" I dont visit churches anymore...nor orthodox nor catholic or protestant... I am confused, and I just read whatever I get my hands on... I have many unanswered questions.... Maybe I should seek the advice of those hermits....

@joaomiguelpires9427

4 жыл бұрын

@@brotherbrovet1881 You are the Jeova Witness of the Orthodox Church

@redimerfortitudo

3 жыл бұрын

Dostoevsky was was Orthodox Christian....yes....but he was fairly unorthodox in his beliefs. I wouldn't. trust him for faithful Christianity, especially this particular part of his novel. He completely mischaracterizes Jesus and the Church. Jesus used miracles, authority, & mystery for example & he continued that with his Apostles. Just read the Gospels, its pretty obvious.

@suem6004

3 жыл бұрын

redimerfortitudo Dostoevsky was a slavophil orthodox. He put down Roman papacy quite a bit in his literature.

@silentrevolver4600

3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your humility, every epoch in my life when faced with suffering, I reread this, each time I figure something new.

Simply put: Theology turned truth on itself to justify its war against Christ. The response of the Almighty, through the years, is ultimate silence of love and grace

A magnificent performance by Sir John Gielgud. Acting on this level died with that generation of British greats; Olivier, Richardson, Redgrave, and Gielgud, etc. never to be seen again...

@jak0lboyz182

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/dpqru8WyiNrHl7Q.html

@SiliconBong

Жыл бұрын

Edward Fox.

This novel is just so far above nearly everything else that has ever been published, jolting emotions every single time.

@MarlboroughBlenheim1

2 жыл бұрын

I agree: but out of interest what are the other works you think are in the same league?

@lukehunnable

Жыл бұрын

@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 There are too many to mention to be honest. I don’t see what all the fuss is about this book… Moby Dick, per example, is far far superior, in every single sense of what a novel can do. But I guess the BK is somehow very important to Christians who have at times wavered in their faith. And big D certainly has some moments of genius insight, no doubt. Still, overlong and quite silly novel IMO.

@MarlboroughBlenheim1

Жыл бұрын

@@lukehunnable moby dick? I don’t think anyone who seriously understands literature would suggest that Dostoyevsky’s Brothers Karamazov is second to moby dick. BK deals with deep philosophical issues and Freud thought it was the greatest novel ever written about human psychology. Moby dick is a great story but doesn’t even begin to address the deeper moral truths that Dostoyevsky does. I’m not sure you’ve read BK.

@lukehunnable

Жыл бұрын

@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Why does it matter what Freud thought about it? I don’t seriously understand literature but literature isn’t in the category of philosophy, and that’s for a reason. Literature is an artistic exploit, through words. Words must convey meaning and emotion beyond their etymology and semantic value. To do this, all sorts of techniques can be employed. Big D employs none of them. He writes more like a playwright than a great novelist. Moby Dick is so much better written and so much more evocative and imaginative through the use of words, that it’s not even in the same league. It also deals with big ideas, but does so in a much more subdued manner, not a preachy and heavy handed one like Mr. D. I do believe D was a genius, had amazing insights and imagination, but, as a writer, he falls short a lot of the time. Inconsistent rhythm, characters who are totally different but somehow speak the same, no details on surroundings and their affect on characters’ moods, meandering sub-plots that add little to overarching theme. As a philosopher, grappling with these same ideas, Nietzsche is also on another planet, clearly. What the BK takes 1000 pages to expose and critique, Nietzsche can do in one page, and more explosively and controversially. And, again, who cares that Nietzsche also looked up to Mr. D? Michelangelo also looked up to Bertoldo di Giovanni, but surpassed him. So, even though I think he’s great, I do believe people exaggerate and have developed a sort of tunnel vision towards him. The Russians consider him to be nowhere near Pushkin, Tolstoy and Gogol, so that should tell you something. I have just finished BK, have you read Moby Dick?

@MarlboroughBlenheim1

Жыл бұрын

@@lukehunnable that’s your view, which I don’t accept. Literature is an art form and can be philosophical or anything that the writer wants it to be. Good literature says something about the human condition and what can offer more insights into moral and philosophical ideas than this? Shakespeare and Dostoyevsky and others do this and whether you like it or it’s to your taste - and it is challenging and complex and not easy to access - then that is a reflection of your likes and dislikes, not on the writer’s ability. If you haven’t read BK then I can’t take seriously your critique of it. There is a reason that certain literature is heralded years and years later.

The reason we experience the presence of God when we serve others- when we love others, is because we Go to the place where God is. We draw on that unending well, and we live in that eternal way. The reason people run to God when they hit their lowest is because they have gone to the place where God is. They are cradled in his arms. God makes himself as nothing, and shows himself to be God by doing just this.

What a fantastic performance! I also love Ivan's nightmare with the devil chapter.

@paulo1ftw

5 жыл бұрын

The part of The Brothers Karamazov that really gripped me, was Ivan's feverish meeting with The Devil. The Devil only repeated the things Ivan had said that he now regretted most, and the things he was most embarrassed about. Of course, this could all be a figment of his fevered imagination - but as an atheist, what would be the difference? With no ultimate good or evil, Ivan is his own critic. It's magnificently written.

@peterjanssen5901

4 жыл бұрын

Well, Aljosja did tell him in the Grand Inquisitor chapter "How can you live with a hell in your head?" Poor Ivan, didn't see the funny side how a man with a Lofty mind could spawn such a petty devil from his own evils.

@oleggorky906

2 жыл бұрын

@@paulo1ftw Ivan knew the vision was real, following his series of meetings with Smerdyakov. What was haunting him is that he had rejected Father Zosima and Alyosha's contention that one single sin can have chain reactions that impact other people, saying anything is permissible to Smerdyakov earlier. Of course, Ivan meant this in a corporate sense, meaning that the masses can direct their own morality without needing the church to guide them, yet Smerdyakov took this as an invitation to better his own lot amorally as the ends justify the means and this horrified Ivan because he hadn't got murder in mind. Ivan had provided Smerdyakov with the framework to commit murder, stripping away the moral boundaries for him. Smerdyakov had pointed out to Ivan that in a sense he was as guilty as he himself was and this was tormenting Ivan.

As a Christian, I do the same. I have had many experiences that strengthen my faith in God, and yet at the same time, I have never shied away from any form of knowledge. Along the way, there have been times where my confidence in God has waned, but this has always adjusted and balanced out as I have learned more. I don't mind that you don't believe, but understand that that doesn't necessarily mean you are open. It could be that your upbringing has left you closed to other forms of truth.

@pauldavies5611

Жыл бұрын

Very nicely put.

@egorsidorov1604

Жыл бұрын

add to Inquisitor Castaneda, maybe this will settle down in your head.

Of all things that Christ could have said in response, his kiss is by far the most powerful. Like in Demons, the most Godly in the world have more power than imaginable in the words "I forgive you, before you apologize"

Thank you for the Marcus Aurelius quote. That reminds me of something Socrates says in the Apology. A good man has nothing to fear in death. I would totally agree with that. But as Socrates points out with his extraordinary life, part of being good means looking into the eyes of another, caring about what they have to say, and believing that I may have something to learn from them that I did not know already.

Watching this on Christmas day 2020. What an absolutely brilliant work of art. Perhaps the finest bit of literature ever written. Also,wonderful acting by Gielgud. Bravo

@michaelcrouch8783

2 жыл бұрын

Bravo

@MarlboroughBlenheim1

2 жыл бұрын

Shakespeare’s use of verse and language tops it; but I agree it’s astoundingly good.

@uncleusuh

11 ай бұрын

@@MarlboroughBlenheim1 Shakespeare may be the best writer in terms of language, but Dostoevsky will always be the best in terms of profundity.

@MarlboroughBlenheim1

11 ай бұрын

@@uncleusuh and you feel able to judge both, in which case you must hold yourself in high esteem. One might ask for a definition of both factors because I would suggest that the separation is artificial. Beautiful language about life and love and death is itself profound; and profound thoughts and expressions can’t be communicated in a way that isn’t itself profound by definition, otherwise they wouldn’t be profound.

Christ was not simply giving commands to his, but was describing the reality of God behind his actions. He was not describing something detached from reality, but that which makes reality what it is. In other words, the way he lived matched what he said, and what he said matched who God is.

Two years ago when i was 17 years old i stumbled upon Jordan Peterson. That same year, i heard about Dostoevsky and read Brothers Karamazov and Notes from the underground. Never have i ever been so “engaged” and “woken” by books

CaesarI've always believed this to be one of the greatest things ever written or found in in the world of "classic literature." Its one thing to read 'T.B.K' but when one arrives to this Chapter a greater treasure is found.(Unexpectedly). This chapter alone was a great work all to itself & I Imagine that all those who have read this book must agree. Yet considering just how great the the whole book is as a whole; still to me I found this single chapter, (these words) greater than the rest of the book. The book maybe a fiction appealing to human intellect & moving our heart strings here & there in ways we can identity with. But the Grand Inquisitor is no fiction. 'Amazing the strength & mental capacity of Dostoevsky. The focus & Patience needed to create this & put it down. WOW.. WOW... Wow. Nonetheless we are fortunate that there is a visual adaptation of ',T.G.I' & an actor talented & gifted enough to deliver such a Masterpiece. (Though the words still overshadow the actors. & poor Jesus. We'll get him again........)

a masterpiece of acting sharing the words of a literary genius

Psalm 51.10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me

Best book in classical literature, thank you for posting

Gielgud is magnificent as always.

I first watched this performance a few years ago. I had no idea who John Gielgud was. I recently watched a performance of Antigone on KZread and immediately recognized John. A talented man indeed.

The incredible abilities of John Gielgud shown at their absolute best in the magnificent work of Dostoevsky

Thanks for this. Last saw it back in the 80's in a BBC retrospective of Gielgud's work. Great performance.

brilliant work by the actors, they capture the story very well.

this is brilliant. thanks for uploading.

Completely BRILLIANT and unforgettable in all aspects!!!

I love Dostoevsky, I wonder what he would say to the world now

@SapaHollidaySaparonia

8 жыл бұрын

***** :)

@EighteenYearAccount

5 жыл бұрын

He would probably say something that would get him straight back to Siberia. No matter what happens to humanity, there will always be Siberia.

@NotApplicable555

5 жыл бұрын

Dostoevsky had words that were so prophetic, that they are more applicable today than they were then. He would likely wish to finish the Karamazov trilogy. If anything, I would instead wonder what would happen if Jesus Christ was born again today. What would he say? Who would he side with. I believe he would have even less to say. Those that have followed his words have spoken for him, in great triumph and great progress. His words resisted 100 years of the horrible evil in communism. His words, while left behind and ignored in the west, will provide hope and love in those lost. Those who seek will be found, and will find themselves alone in a world that needs it so badly. Yet these words will continue to exist as they always have, just as ancient Greek texts. Just waiting to be read.

@markeedeep

5 жыл бұрын

He'd most certainly be on the side of today's Russia. He was always ultimately on the side of Russian Orthodox Christian civillisation, no matter what.

@tbillyjoeroth

4 жыл бұрын

@@olimikromov7817 the religious are never happy with the status quo. If things went well, there'd be no need for them. Did you even watch the video? He says as much.

Beautifully done! Very accurate, dramatic, piercing...just all around beautiful! Definitely encompasses the purpose behind Dostoevsky's work in writing this piece (fitting within the Brothers Karamazov). Five stars! :)

This helped me piece the reading together nicely

Truly beautiful

I just read this poem in brothers karamazov and it's a really powerful piece of writing portrayed brilliantly in this scene.

Look at the Inquisitor’s posture and facial expression at the end, after he frees Jesus. He turns away, and he seems to be feeling agony and sorrow in that moment. What is he feeling right then? What’s he thinking about?

@hoodiehat7126

2 жыл бұрын

Freedoms end, deaths call to life, truths duality built on the kindness of falsehood, hypocrisy’s calling to truth. Pure and utter shits breath. Life

@hoodiehat7126

2 жыл бұрын

Christs lie built in truth, die with no honor, but love.

@hoodiehat7126

2 жыл бұрын

Trinity’s force

@hoodiehat7126

2 жыл бұрын

Mystery rejects loves love

@hoodiehat7126

2 жыл бұрын

Disgusting reject

So well performed 👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻

Brilliant. Excellent rendering. This passage should be cherished and studied.

Just...awesome!

Absolutely BRILLIANT. Gielgud is amazing. Both of them…oh wow.❤️

Exquisite, I loved Sir Gielgud. 💖 💖

Nobody expects the spanish inquisition!

@michaelcrouch8783

2 жыл бұрын

Watch my back Jesus

@sarahkay830

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelcrouch8783 amen I am learning so much I am excited to get deeper in Christ

@michaelcrouch8783

Жыл бұрын

@@sarahkay830 my daddy backhanded me in the face and told me that life is hard. He was right life is hard. Believe in God and trust in Jesus is a fantastic comfort.

John Gielgud was a true stage legend

Contradictions upon contradictions upon contradictions…if that is your base, you can lay that grid on every subject you can Imagen. Still Fjodor drags me through every muddy trail he ever made up and I am a slave to his words!

Merry Christmas

Perfection incarnate in Sir John.

Justice and love starts with the particular. Notice that Christ listens to the inquisitor with wrapped attention. He cares for the inquisitor, in a way that the inquisitor cannot know, as he only loves an Ideal that is not real. Christ loves through listening, and in the end of the chapter, Christ answers the grand inquisitor with a kiss. Though he may be killed, and "lose", that loss is an expression of infinite love. The love holding you in existence right now. That love is serving us all.

@shresthachatterjee1707

6 ай бұрын

So beautiful

Basically: “Boss, I became worldly to help worldly people, and you should’ve too”, every false prophet and wolf in sheep’s clothes says the same. It’s well written here. “Im a trickster because the worldly use tricks, I need power to defend against the powerful worldly people!” Yeah yeah yeah, heard it before. **But written best here by far.**

@waldemarwojnicki6781

Жыл бұрын

But take in account that where is no "afterlife" and "resurrection" (both - miracles !) The Grand Spirit of Self-destruction and Non-egsistence - is saying (through the lips of Old Man..) the deep truth.. Hence - whatever is the option you choose, 1) or you choose "Miracle" (hence - you throw yourself down from the corner of the temple, as the Spirit wanted you to do..) 2) or - you admitt the rightfullness of Grand Inquisitor's reasoning.. (and you distribute earthly bread, and grasp the Sword of Empire - with your own hand.. as the Spirit wanted..). The monologue is much deeper, more paradoxical and much more tormenting (than you've described it..) - I mean.. 😒🤷‍♂️

Brilliant.

Fantastic!!

Excellent performance of a great written piece

I am never not enthralled watching this.

absolutely awesome :)

amazing play translate from a wonderful book

John G has always been one of my favorite actors every since he did the film caligula.

incredible challenge re man's intrinsic desire to be led

What I love most about "TGI" is that Dostoevsky wrote something that has become deeply meaningful to many people, but he himself didn't actually believe it. Ivan, Dmitri, and Alyosha are all parts of his consciousness, and this is Dostoevsky letting his inner Ivan out to play. Imagine the desperation you'd feel having those three brothers living in your head, arguing and plotting all of the time, while you're being forced to believe that reality has a single course. It is a story within a story about a story; the center continually changes, just as the accusations fly infinitely over who has the correct manner. The depth is an illusion that keeps us staring at the mirror, our rage never rising to epiphany.

@kyleferguson5175

11 ай бұрын

you missed out your killer self, which is why its always free to kill because you refuse to see it!

@kyleferguson5175

11 ай бұрын

ps when he took Christ in also took in the Grand Inquisitor, whilst Christ resides in silence the Inquisitor doesn't Inquisitor always was big on killing the infidels to save the millions lost just as Ivan can't see all his brothers he doesn't see his own Inquisitor until its too late

@kyleferguson5175

11 ай бұрын

final p.s. Smerdyakov A.K.A Mr Hyde is produce of Alyosha A.K.A. Dr Jekyll refusal to accept the smelly one as part of themselves they both create the killer in the quest not to be the smelly corpse that was always their destiny as humans.

Dostoevsky is the master.

A simple true kiss of eternal Love made all of his magnificent humanistic declaration mute.

I remember seeing this on BBC2 when it used to broadcast the Open University programmes. It was part of their module The 19th century Novel and its Legacy. There were some very worthwhile OU tv programmes and it's a shame they don't broadcast them anymore. There was a wonderful version of "Women Beware Women" and excerpts from" Cousin Bette " with Margaret Tyzack in the title role.

Besides, Ivan admits, at the beginning of the rebellion, that he believes it is impossible to love one's neighbor. Instead, Ivan opts for loving a vague vision of humanity as a whole, on behalf of which the most atrocious acts of cruelty can be employed in the name of the children. Yet, this kind of love does not exist. It is impossible to love humanity as a whole, for that is not how love works. We learn to love from those who loved us first.

masterpiece! a tour de force

Brilliant

I tend to imagine the Inquisitor as a much calmer person.

The best part of this drama is the final enigmatic kiss, Jesus planted on the lips of the Inquisitor! Amazing Grace.

This was my favorite part of the novel. Coming from Ivan, this monologue reflects his complete misunderstanding of Christ and what He came to do. It is a very earth-centered, humanistic monologue. To say that Satan was offering Jesus a chance to "fix" the world with his temptations is a brilliant play that is actually quite in Satan's character (see Genesis 3).

@tuanjim799

Жыл бұрын

Could you elaborate more on this comment?

@leusmaximusx

Жыл бұрын

there is no satan, but men with oppressive thoughts

@Th3BigBoy

2 ай бұрын

Could you elaborate more on this comment?

@Grandmaster_Dragonborn

Ай бұрын

@@tuanjim799 I think what he means, is that Ivan (Through the Inquisitor) is very earth centered; His criticises Jesus for not "fixing the world" even though that wasn't Jesus' purpose, it was to save souls *(John 3:16).* In his anguish over the state of the present world, he fails to consider the reason it is like this at all (Sin) nor the hope for what is coming after.

Thanks 💜

Powerful actor Sir John Gielgud ❤

"How many times must a Christ die because men have so little imagination?" -- paraphrase of GB Shaw

Gielgud was brilliant

This is the simple message: CHRIST IS MOSTLY FEARED TO COME BACK ON EARTH! Those famous monologue is all about the FEAR OF THE CHURCH BEING EXPOSED AT LEAST ON THE COMING OF CHRIST... Here is the main reason Christ is called TROUBLE MAKER WHICH BETTER COME NOT... Short - Dostoevsky has written an absolutely deep and divinely inspired piece of utter truth...He is here a prophet with a deep prophecy: THAT CHRIST IS NOT WELCOME AND NEVER HAD BEEN! Btw, I wait for Christ while others quarrel on unimportant and silly stuff like CHOOSING A CERTAIN POLITICAL PARTY... Greetings from Germany...

Power of love.

@SuperGreatSphinx

4 ай бұрын

Love Conquers All... ♥️

This is literally "God has left the chat"

@christinesuarez6337

4 жыл бұрын

*Son of God*

@thomaspynchon1868

3 жыл бұрын

Nope it wasnt like that, its how he made it.

Marvellous.

@michaelcrouch8783

2 жыл бұрын

Yes

Ephesians 4:15 "Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ." 1st Cor 13 1:2 "If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." If you don't speak truth lovingly, it is worthless, and in the end, is not true, because a truth detached from a life that embodies it is hollow. I

The Inquisitor sounds like Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood

Oh my God! John Geilgud! Excelent! Excelent! No one could possibly play it better! Great!

@bootstrapperwilson7687

9 ай бұрын

Missing l. Twice.

I recall seeing this when it was broadcast all those years ago.It made a deep impression on me & lead me into reading the whole novel & much of the rest of Dostoevsky.Great to have it available again.Many thanks.

@travislewis2717

4 жыл бұрын

Wow! I know that feeling

What an actor!!!!

@garundip.mcgrundy8311

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, his position, his verbiage is that of Man... eternal, unregenerate man. The "christ" says nothing... He is not the risen Christ... He is some other. Dostoevsky does not understand Christian theology.

@mpcc2022

7 жыл бұрын

This was a metaphor for the state of the church and totalitarianism, not a literal interpretation of Christ's return.

@garundip.mcgrundy8311

7 жыл бұрын

Exactly. But, it gives us a good look into the psychology of Doestoevsky and so many in the liberal arts (Luke 19:14; 14:25-35; 19:11-27). Basically, this is the one issue between God and Man (the liberal arts, etc.). Don't forget Doestoevsky coined the phrase-- "God is dead." Doestoevsky is not helpful at all regarding Christian Truth and Knowing. Flannary O'Conner, too; like so many others. It is left to us to reform the world under the flag of Christianity. No prisoners!

@garundip.mcgrundy8311

7 жыл бұрын

You are misguided. Nietzsche took the concept--"God is dead"--from Doestoevsky! Nietzsche (1844-1900) lived after Doestoevsky (1821-1881) not before! KZread comments section needs lessons. I would suggest a good community college.

@garundip.mcgrundy8311

7 жыл бұрын

You're excused.

There is no other alternative to a world like this one but a God like that one.

I never could get through Dostoyevsky. This scene has made me reconsider.

@tuanjim799

Жыл бұрын

Oh man, I hope you decided to give it another go. It's so worth it. Life-changing stuff.

Dostoevsky wrote this work from his own firsthand experience with the Priesthood, particularly with the Jesuit Order. The Grand Inquisitor is based off of the Jesuit Superior General, who, since 1540, assumed control over the Holy Office of the Inquisition, becoming the Grand Inquisitor. Dostoevsky would pay with his life for this earth-shaking expose of the true nature of the highest echelons of the Order.

@markeedeep

4 жыл бұрын

What are you talking about, he passed away in Russia where jesuits had no presence!

@tuanjim799

4 жыл бұрын

Do you think Dostoevsky's death was actually an assassination? I've near heard this theory, but it's an interesting one to think about. Certainly not out of the realm of possibility. Crazier things have probably happened. Can you elaborate some, or point me in a direction for further research of this?

@markymark863

4 жыл бұрын

No. This is Dostoevsky showing the utilitarian reasoning of the modern man, and how rationality and science alone cannot satisfy the needs of the soul.

6:19 Why have you come to make trouble for us? THIS IS EXACTLY THE FEAR OF CHRIST`S COMING AT ALL TIMES! Greetings from Germany!

@travislewis2717

4 жыл бұрын

Amen!

@michaelcrouch8783

2 жыл бұрын

Yes Dictators free themselves And enslave people But Jesus has given us Heaven , Love,beyond that

@leusmaximusx

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelcrouch8783 no Jesus showed to us that heaven is here on earth and during a persons lifetime

@michaelcrouch8783

Жыл бұрын

@@leusmaximusx you're waking me up when I'm an old disabled man to ask me something about a remark I made one year ago.

@michaelcrouch8783

Жыл бұрын

@@leusmaximusx Jesus is everywhere.

I was going to respond to those passages in particular that you cited about slavery. Slavery during that period of time was an integral part of the roman economic system. As such, a person who was a slave could not suddenly free himself from slavery just because he didn't believe it to be right. Besides, as Christians, Paul taught that masters were to be the servants of their servants. That all were to serve all- love all. This is actually what Fr. Zossima talks about in the following chapters.

Beautiful History

Incredible performance…of even more incredible writing…of eternal significance for those able to understand its meaning…

That's a very long monologue. Wow!!!

The Tribunal of the Holy Office of the Inquisition (Spanish: Tribunal del Santo Oficio de la Inquisición), commonly known as the Spanish Inquisition (Inquisición española), was established in 1478 by the Catholic Monarchs, King Ferdinand II of Aragon and Queen Isabella I of Castile. It began toward the end of the Reconquista and was intended to maintain Catholic orthodoxy in their kingdoms and to replace the Medieval Inquisition, which was under papal control. It became the most substantive of the three different manifestations of the wider Catholic Inquisition, along with the Roman Inquisition and the Portuguese Inquisition. The "Spanish Inquisition" may be defined broadly as operating in Spain and in all Spanish colonies and territories, which included the Canary Islands, the Kingdom of Naples, and all Spanish possessions in North America and South America. According to modern estimates, around 150,000 people were prosecuted for various offences during the three-century duration of the Spanish Inquisition, of whom between 3,000 and 5,000 were executed, approximately 2.7 percent of all cases. The Inquisition, however, since the creation of the American courts, has never had jurisdiction over the Indians. The King of Spain ordered "that the inquisitors should never proceed against the Indians, but against the old Christians and their descendants and other persons against whom in these kingdoms of Spain it is customary to proceed".

Over the top performance from Geilgud. I imagined the Inquisitor to be far more simply bureaucratic in his delivery, a la Eichmann, a man merely doing his job and not believing his own tripe, continues in a quiet and exhausted voice to explain the sin of freedom.

My word! He ain't heavy, he's my brother. SIR John Gielgud

Freedom from the human form is the answer to that mystery.

Yeah, I'm with the "say it with gravitas and don't back it up" camp, too.

Compelling. This reminded me of the book, Joshua, by Joe Girzone.

What is understanding? What is interpretation? What is truth? What is wisdom? What is love?

@sethlupo4736

9 ай бұрын

Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.

@CVUK

6 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣@@sethlupo4736