The Good Cards in Hearthstone's Bad Archetypes

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A chill little reflection on some Hearthstone cards.
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  • @golinart4570
    @golinart4570 Жыл бұрын

    For a very short period of time, right before dark moon fair and Scholomance got rotated out, Control mill Warlock was actually very good. Tikatus made other control decks irrelevant and you had several win cons with Jaraxxus, Neeru, Malicia, and Rustwix duplication after Neeru. Worlds was full of control warlock. I don't remember if Neeru was played there but I do remember it seeing play in ladder.

  • @Chaoticus9
    @Chaoticus9 Жыл бұрын

    One thing I find odd about the current rotation is that they tried to push Discard Warlock again with a few of the current core cards being ones revolving around the Discard mechanic, including High Priestess Jeklik.

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I thought that was weird too. Plus that 2 mana 3/2 that discards a card.

  • @albertlofling7310

    @albertlofling7310

    Жыл бұрын

    Wait you find it weird that the core cards supports modern archetypes?

  • @Chaoticus9

    @Chaoticus9

    Жыл бұрын

    @@albertlofling7310 This comment was before they added more Discard archetype cards in the latest expansion to synergize with. It was strange with 2 expansions in without any Discard synergy in standard but now they've more than made-up for it.

  • @albertlofling7310

    @albertlofling7310

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Chaoticus9 ah. makes sense.

  • @Intestine_Ballin-ism

    @Intestine_Ballin-ism

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@albertlofling7310and now for some ungodly reason we have 3 mana discard your hand in standard, banned in wild, without any good discard support lol

  • @meruempro
    @meruempro Жыл бұрын

    Blood in the Water was played in the Thief Rogue

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Good to know

  • @draconic787
    @draconic787 Жыл бұрын

    Really glad youtube randomly recommended your channel for me. Great chill and funny videos. Thanks for the content!

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Any time! Glad you got recommended here too!

  • @casperskye
    @casperskye Жыл бұрын

    What I learned watching this video: Want to play a big minion deck? Just play Druid. I need to stop playing Blood in the Water.

  • @teaadvice4996
    @teaadvice4996 Жыл бұрын

    Your Trickster take aged like milk

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    gotta swing for the fences sometimes

  • @teaadvice4996

    @teaadvice4996

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mrchundo lol

  • @ph1lny3
    @ph1lny3 Жыл бұрын

    I know this isn't with Wild in mind, but from a Wild perspective: -There has been some experimentation among some reputable offmeta players with the self-discard warlock, though it was very shortlived. Soul Rend found a home though in Evenlock/Reno Evenlock -Token DH, and by extension DH in general, has really struggled in Wild. There was some attention to it when Castle Nathria got released, but Druid just did the Denathrius strat better. -Shadow Hunter Vol'jin quickly became a center piece for Mecha'thunlock, though other variations quickly took its place once Runed Mithril Rod and Tome Tampering came in (though Tome Tampering as of this comment's date is banned in WIld now). -Trickster is not good in Wild, though I see that it's a big piece of Jackpot Burgle Rogue in Standard. -Overdraft is a very wild-worthy card. There are times where Spirit of the Frog Shaman builds will pop off, and this card is a big part of that deck, whether it's the pure burn, QL, or Giants Shaman. Same thing goes with Investment Opportunity. This is one of my favorite decks, gives me Miracle Rogue/Darkglarelock vibes.

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for telling me this. I am not as familiar with the Wild meta as Standard so this is very interesting. Also I do love watching Dane do overdraft + spirit of the frog combos.

  • @emred4653
    @emred4653 Жыл бұрын

    reminds me of how ursarctic archetype in yugioh has a card letting you draw 7 but rest of the archetype is so terrible nobody plays it

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah this is definitely inspired by that

  • @big_oo
    @big_oo Жыл бұрын

    damn i really enjoyed this video then saw it was your first!

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @hollowheartbeat
    @hollowheartbeat9 ай бұрын

    Just got this on my front page and I’m happy I did. Afterwards I watched a few of your other videos and enjoyed them thoroughly. You remind me a lot of Rhystic Studies and that’s very much a compliment.

  • @Eshiay
    @Eshiay Жыл бұрын

    Feast of Souls should've been a 2 mana draw 1 and +1 for each that died. Would've been a better overall card. But yeah we have card draw already idk who this was for.

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah like impending doom

  • @alexandersong5753

    @alexandersong5753

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mrchundo impending catastrophe*

  • @Begeru
    @Begeru9 ай бұрын

    I know it’s an old video but it’s cool how you identified Swiftscale Trickster’s problem early. All it needed was Jackpot! to be printed.

  • @brrr5733
    @brrr5733 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, keep up the good work!

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I’ll try my best

  • @jacob1616
    @jacob1616 Жыл бұрын

    What do you use for your backgrounds? They're always so cool. Also, I came back to this channel to watch more videos but I've already watched them all haha. Make more man, they're great!

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you like them! I edit on DaVinci Resolve and they have a few noise patterns, background generators, etc. that you can play around with to get different backgrounds

  • @patrickkwon3351
    @patrickkwon3351 Жыл бұрын

    Ingenius ideas, im sad u dont upoad more. droped a like n subed

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry Patrick! I’ve got real life dog-in-suit-stuff keeping me occupied atm

  • @patrickkwon3351

    @patrickkwon3351

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mrchundo its fine j keep makin bangers

  • @lancergt1000
    @lancergt1000 Жыл бұрын

    5:45 Shadow Hunter Voljin was very definitely played in Mecathun Warlock in Wild

  • @Rikhard9

    @Rikhard9

    Жыл бұрын

    hes not talking about wild

  • @ratedbforbob74
    @ratedbforbob74 Жыл бұрын

    Hilarious that swiftscale trickster is pretty good now after the lich king expansion

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    yeah I had a feeling that one would age poorly

  • @karludwig8722

    @karludwig8722

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mrchundo no I think you were correct and even kinda called it, by saying switfscale trickster would be good if Rogue had access to good expensive spells and due to Jackpot he has gained it

  • @diffusegd
    @diffusegd11 ай бұрын

    Fun fact: in the mmost recent Twist gamemode, discardlock has seen potential with the additional new legendary Fanottem, along with the power level being lower in twist

  • @jaykayebandftw
    @jaykayebandftw Жыл бұрын

    love vids like this, more pls

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I’ll get on that : )

  • @joshprice4855
    @joshprice4855 Жыл бұрын

    I think discard or self mill decks would probably be more powerful if Hearthstone had a easier to access graveyard mechanic. Having more consistent access to the cards you're binning is a much better pay off than some of the stuff Blizzard has tried imo

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah it's starting to feel like the design space of Hearthstone is running out if they don't add in a big shakeup like a graveyard. Dredge was a nice start.

  • @TheGameware
    @TheGameware Жыл бұрын

    Swiftscale trickster you didn't do justice. I regularly manage to pull off insane combos using swiftscale + jackpot. You can easily get cards like drakefire amulet out on turn 4, leading to a ridiculous board if you get lucky. Either you can get off a crazy spell or find something like nightshade bud and play crabatoa early when the opponent has almost nothing. Overall a very good card in my experience with a lot of cards which summon several powerful taunts coming from jackpot.

  • @_Oltzm_
    @_Oltzm_ Жыл бұрын

    20k subs in 6 months. Calling it now.

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Very ambitious - I like it

  • @youngcrespo
    @youngcrespo Жыл бұрын

    very nappable content! much love

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! People need their nap content

  • @edwardg8912
    @edwardg891210 ай бұрын

    Swift scale is really solid now with Jackpot lol

  • @520_metal
    @520_metal Жыл бұрын

    Any card that does not see play is bad. Cards don't exist in a vacuum.

  • @Papa-Bumblebee
    @Papa-Bumblebee9 ай бұрын

    Its kinda crazy that voljin became part of one of the grossest standard decks before rotation with thadduis shaman

  • @torhenryandreassen6144
    @torhenryandreassen6144 Жыл бұрын

    Man I really, desperately, want Discard Warlock to be good. I just really love the idea of using everything as a resource; one's health, one's cards -- everything! Must be Rakdos rubbing off on me.

  • @peshomighty5051

    @peshomighty5051

    2 ай бұрын

    So discard zoo with lategame burn to finish the game. The control discard package is basically never printed

  • @breadbaskets2772
    @breadbaskets2772 Жыл бұрын

    I liked using voljin in quest pruest during sunken city

  • @crosti9729
    @crosti9729 Жыл бұрын

    There was a 3/3 lifesteal In Knights if the frozen throne

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep! Shoutout Acolyte of Agony

  • @cosmic3689
    @cosmic3689 Жыл бұрын

    ah, bloodshard bristleback infamous part of the self mill demon seed that got nerfed in standard and banned in wild, swiftscale trickster from the tiny rogue // big rogue (depending who was naming the deck lol) also dumpstered in wild after being far and away the best deck. (though it wasn't the key card ofc.) overdraft.. i don't know if it was actually good but it's always fun seeing dane slamming it on face for 60+ damage :p

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah Hearthstone “archetypes” are a little less clear than in other card games. These cards can also be considered members of archetypes - like you said - with self-mill quest warlock that was broken

  • @franciszekbellon2760
    @franciszekbellon2760 Жыл бұрын

    F Deathrattle Rogue

  • @Misha4em
    @Misha4em9 ай бұрын

    Titans really brought overdraft from a dead card to a meta

  • @davikersulks9525
    @davikersulks9525 Жыл бұрын

    2:15 milhouse? that 2/8 orc that receives 2 damage every turn (dont remember his name) i Dont think that is real man

  • @Rachel-Pham
    @Rachel-Pham Жыл бұрын

    freeze shaman will rise again

  • @fuscello
    @fuscello Жыл бұрын

    I like the video but blood in the water is a pretty good card and you get a lot of tempo by swiftscaling it

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I can be a bit too harsh on cards at times

  • @oak_a
    @oak_a Жыл бұрын

    wait, trickster saw a lot of play in jackpot rogue

  • @Im_Aeros
    @Im_Aeros Жыл бұрын

    Swift scale finally gets a big spell in lightwell. Still sucks

  • @robertlupa8273
    @robertlupa8273 Жыл бұрын

    *Today I Learnt* that Blood in the Water exists and I'm glad I did, because that's some good art, if you know what I mean 😏

  • @jalley6042
    @jalley6042 Жыл бұрын

    tip the scales paladin

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    That’s a fun one

  • @Zombie-lx3sh
    @Zombie-lx3sh Жыл бұрын

    This aged poorly considering that Vol’jin is a central piece of the second best deck in the game: evolve shaman.

  • @Zombie-lx3sh

    @Zombie-lx3sh

    Жыл бұрын

    The same is true for Trickster in Thief Rogue. Absolutely essential in a very dominant deck.

  • @Katlagrottan
    @Katlagrottan4 ай бұрын

    hello chundo

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    4 ай бұрын

    hello katlagrottan

  • @movingtriangle8527
    @movingtriangle8527 Жыл бұрын

    "Duds like Discard Warlock" Don't tell Trump this.

  • @fartface8918
    @fartface8918 Жыл бұрын

    a bit sad bloodshard is killed by renothal

  • @fartface8918

    @fartface8918

    Жыл бұрын

    shadowhunter is best used in mechathun warlock and it still sees play in some builds

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah not sure how I completely spaced on mechathun

  • @madianantar7842
    @madianantar78429 ай бұрын

    This video didn’t age well

  • @Xanthopathy
    @Xanthopathy Жыл бұрын

    You remind me of Rhystic Studies

  • @mrchundo

    @mrchundo

    Жыл бұрын

    This might be the nicest comment I’ve gotten. Thanks!

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