The Good, Bad and Ugly of Fuel and Oil Additives | Tech Tactics Live

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Lake Speed, Jr. spoke at this year’s Tech Tactics East, which is hosted by the Porsche Club of America. His topic was about whether or not to use fuel or oil additives in your engine. This is a fascinating presentation using examples of oil analysis he’s done with different oils and oil and fuel additives. You may be surprised at what you learn. If you’ve ever wondered whether these are worth the investment, you should watch this episode to become better informed.
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  • @flexjay87
    @flexjay87Ай бұрын

    There are so many anecdotal opinions on the internet/ KZread. If you are a car guy, and you wanna respect someone with actual knowledge, Lake Speed Jr. is the Man !

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Well said!

  • @benjamintresham9649
    @benjamintresham9649Ай бұрын

    It’s ALL FACTUAL and that’s because Lake Speed is a man that loves or enjoys his job and he has expanded into more leanings or training from experience and backs himself up. He is a dying breed of man who cares to share his knowledge. THAT demands respect in my opinion.

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    We appreciate the kind words. Thank you for watching.

  • @flinch622
    @flinch622Ай бұрын

    Thanks to the Porsche Club for sharing this presentation. Getting granular helps push past marketing hype.

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Our pleasure!

  • @SuperTimeStretch
    @SuperTimeStretchАй бұрын

    This guy is a genius. I've seen him around a few different parts of the internet and he knows everything there is to know out there, it seems.

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    We would have to agree. Always a pleasure having him on.

  • @bobstitzenberger1834

    @bobstitzenberger1834

    Ай бұрын

    I love his videos where he is with really smart, experienced guys, and they are learning so much from him. Just a brilliant guy.

  • @m5p944

    @m5p944

    Ай бұрын

    He’s an idiot

  • @redlywaxer
    @redlywaxer24 күн бұрын

    One of the best presentations on this subject I have ever heard.

  • @6gatornation
    @6gatornationАй бұрын

    his presentation should've been longer also allow more time for questions and give them a microphone Having someone with his knowledge is priceless he is answering so many questions that I've had for many years

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching! We are glad it was helpful.

  • @nesmio7378
    @nesmio7378Ай бұрын

    Tip for Lake during question and answers - Repeat the question or at least summarize it for the listeners that can't hear the question asked. Most often you can guess what the question was based of the answer but not always.

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    noted.

  • @user-hh4wc9kz1h
    @user-hh4wc9kz1hАй бұрын

    Best KZread info with no BS! Thank you and keep up the good work 👍

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching.

  • @briankalagher6687
    @briankalagher6687Ай бұрын

    Seeing the fuel dilution drop from 2.5 down to .93 just from a bottle of fuel treatment is so cool!

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @jamram9924

    @jamram9924

    Ай бұрын

    Frequency of adding this PEA based fuel additive?

  • @ikonlenses9812

    @ikonlenses9812

    Ай бұрын

    This

  • @zeushualde5627

    @zeushualde5627

    Ай бұрын

    on motorcycle every 3 months or 3k km....

  • @thinkforyourself5672

    @thinkforyourself5672

    11 күн бұрын

    I use it as preventive maintenence. I add a half ounce of Redline or Starbright Ring clean to every tank instead of doing large doses periodically

  • @amac8487
    @amac848720 күн бұрын

    I love when I come across people so passionate in the things they do. This man is a wealth of knowledge, and has a great way of teaching. It’s hard to align all those things…. Thanks for sharing !

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    18 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoy it!

  • @JimLico
    @JimLico25 күн бұрын

    Please have the speakers repeat the questions in the future - they are inaudible.

  • @miamirice6840
    @miamirice6840Ай бұрын

    This guy was great. Thank you and thank you to PCA for being so awesome.

  • @chief1960
    @chief19609 күн бұрын

    I am the guy who toldyou not to be close to the camera ,you are the man.God speed to you.

  • @JK-rv9tp
    @JK-rv9tpАй бұрын

    Mobil came out with a PAO synthetic aircraft engine oil in the late 80s, Mobil AV1. Aviation oils have to cope with lead combustion products from leaded Avgas and keep them in suspension. AV1 was supposed to have an additive package to do this. As it turned out, the PAO molecule is so slick compared to a mineral one (like a spaghetti noodle vs a piece of fuzzy yarn) it could not support the dispersant package and thus could not hold lead oxides in suspension. A "lead paint" crisis ensued, as lead settled out of the oil and coated the internals in a paint like hard coating, as well as sludging up oil galleries. Some engine failures resulted. Big class action lawsuit in the 90s and AV1 was withdrawn. The only PAO synthetic aviation oil is an Shell product, Aeroshell 15W50, that is half PAO and half mineral, enough to hold lead byproducts. The PAO component gives it a multigrade rating of 15W50 without VI improvers. Probably the best aviation oil out there. I use it. I run auto gas in my plane and if a full PAO synthetic was available, I'd use that.

  • @blackrifle6736

    @blackrifle6736

    29 күн бұрын

    *Well said. Everyone I know who run recips use, therefore bet their lives on Aeroshell. That and CamGuard. Blackstone Labs tells the tale. Cheers!*

  • @LTVoyager

    @LTVoyager

    3 күн бұрын

    I remember this well. Even the experts get it wrong now and then. Always keep that in mind.

  • @candyman1967

    @candyman1967

    3 күн бұрын

    @@JK-rv9tp I thought it was the Polyolester that didnt hold additives in suspension and that’s why PAO’s were used ? 🤷‍♂️🤣

  • @JimmyTomes
    @JimmyTomesАй бұрын

    That was incredibly insightful! Thank you Lake for helping us navigate the sea of marketing misinformation and thank you to the PCA for making this available to everyone.

  • @flinch622

    @flinch622

    Ай бұрын

    I was just thinking... the oil marketing is actually impossible because there are what: almost 3 dozen fuel formulations in the US alone? They can't possibly nail down blow-by effects on engines coast to coast in a one size fits all additive package. The differences might be small, but they are there.

  • @ramonplasencia9994
    @ramonplasencia9994Ай бұрын

    Really enjoyed this lecture. It was fun!!! Next time, just give a microphone to the audience asking questions. Congrats and thanks to the organizers as well.

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Noted!

  • @daytonaeagle
    @daytonaeagleАй бұрын

    Not gonna lie.. little triggered with the Ceratec image lol and then the BMW, liquimoly engine flush and Ceratec example.. I was like dude how’d you know all that about me😂

  • @bricekoirokpi9954
    @bricekoirokpi99546 күн бұрын

    Thanks for having time for us

  • @blackrifle6736
    @blackrifle673629 күн бұрын

    *PCA, thank you for bringing the genius and passion of Lake Speed to the attention of those who may be unfamiliar with him. For those interested and aside from his Motor Oil Geeking (Tribology), Lake also has a major presence on Total Seal's Piston Rings channel. Worth a look. Cheers!*

  • @yankee_911_guy
    @yankee_911_guyАй бұрын

    My only suggestion would be to repeat the crowd questions in the mic, or let them ask the questions in a mic.

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    noted

  • @BlueOcean_Deep
    @BlueOcean_Deep2 күн бұрын

    Thanks! Simple takeaway for engine oil use the right one and change out a bit more frequently than manufacturers recommendation, all additives and flushes are basically not necessary then. However, do consider using good quality all fuel. System cleaner.

  • @gilberthale7777
    @gilberthale7777Ай бұрын

    I really enjoy the videos this guy has been making and posting.

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    We are happy to hear that. Thanks for watching.

  • @yankee_911_guy
    @yankee_911_guyАй бұрын

    Great video Lake, easy to follow and very informative.

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching. Happy to hear you enjoyed it.

  • @Just1Spark
    @Just1Spark27 күн бұрын

    Great info! Wish we could hear the questions of the Q&A portion tho.

  • @tssci6774
    @tssci6774Ай бұрын

    Fuel additives might be ok for Port Fuel Injected engines, but not GDI engines. The Redline fuel treatment showed in the video, cleaned a small spot at the point of the GDI spray on top of the piston. The cheap base carrier oil makes up 90% of the cleaner, oxidizes quickly and leaves a black, carboneous, gummy residue in the chamber. This means problems for the valves, when reversion occurs and really bad for compression and oil control rings. I have borescope images before and after, showing this problem. I had another friend do the same, in his GDI engines. Borescope images were the same.

  • @seanshute9284

    @seanshute9284

    Ай бұрын

    You should check out hit video on valvoline restore and protect, specifically deals with gdi

  • @bigdaddymak1439

    @bigdaddymak1439

    Ай бұрын

    You realize he was talking about regular port injection to this seminar?? He has videos on his channel about fuel additives and GDI. Especially using only top tier fuel

  • @tssci6774

    @tssci6774

    Ай бұрын

    @bigdaddymak1439 he doesn't make a distinction between either. Don't add oil to the gas and keep gas out of the oil.

  • @MikeyAlbertin
    @MikeyAlbertinАй бұрын

    Great video! Thanks for posting and sharing.👍

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!

  • @crapschamp4206
    @crapschamp420617 сағат бұрын

    I used a diesel fuel cleaner in my car one time and it was a big improvement better than any I've used they carry it at love's. For my 1997 s10 220,000.still running good with 40 psi oil preasure mostly i used mobile 1.and i have tryed to not go over 2000 to 2500miles at oil changes long block all original un touched. had to put intake gaskets on it .at 6 years old .the key is to let the gray permatex.(Japanese)sealer.let it setup then put on intake on tork.let it dry 24 hours before filling.than it last a long time.i had the dealer do it once but it leaked the next day.he was too fast not time to setup and harden before hardening.his second fix lasted only 3 years had to do it my self.10 years later still no leaks.the leak is at the front .the 4.3 l v6.very dependable motor for a domestic. the trans need oil changes often and kevlar frictions plates.

  • @davidkosa
    @davidkosa20 күн бұрын

    He blinded me with science!

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    18 күн бұрын

    LOL

  • @charlesb4267
    @charlesb4267Ай бұрын

    Speaking of ZDDP, some years ago I had discovered I had a flat tappet lifter that had too fast of a leak down rate and would cause a miss at lower engine speeds, I thought that was a good reason to change the cam and install all new lifters since I assumed the factory 350 GM cam would have wear but I think that just caused me to go down a bad rabbit hole as the factory cam was in perfect condition. So it was a comp cam I put in and they pushed their own ZDDP additive for flat tappet cams they sell. Well I started using the additive as directed and I will never know if it was that or just engine wear that ultimately caused a lower connecting rod bearing to fail and that was the end of that engine. I never did pull the comp camp to see what it looked like but had pulled the crank and con rod caps to inspect, other than the one that went to crap and had to wonder why the bearings looked as questionable as they did. I have refrained from ever using the rest of the ZDDP I had bought, however I have been using half the bottle of GM lifter additive ( so half the volume they call for ) at each oil change after installing a brand new engine from GM and should I be ... good question, its been running fine and may very well without putting the GM additive in.

  • @r.weaver3769
    @r.weaver37694 күн бұрын

    My mother worked at Southwest Research back in the early 70s.

  • @derekheld1427
    @derekheld142711 күн бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this video for all of the internet to see

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    9 күн бұрын

    Our pleasure! Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @TheDavidgalea76
    @TheDavidgalea76Ай бұрын

    Always great info, but please, please mic up the audience if they're throwing questions!

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    noted🫡

  • @jaxphotobuff9252

    @jaxphotobuff9252

    Ай бұрын

    Or have the presenter repeat the question.

  • @mikemc330
    @mikemc33024 күн бұрын

    Good stuff!

  • @rickmiranda5586
    @rickmiranda5586Ай бұрын

    Great video and information, is there a difference between the 10oz and 12oz Gumout all in one?

  • @DarkTouch
    @DarkTouchАй бұрын

    need an executive summary. good stuff though. i do send my oil samples for analysis, but i think once a year is good enough (considering in my track cars i change 2-3 times per year).

  • @moorees335
    @moorees335Ай бұрын

    I use Liquimoly TopTec 5w30 in a MK7 1.8TSI which is 502...I switched at 90k from 5w40 and Castrol to try and get to the 504.00, SP and newers standards like 229.52 which is mid-saps for GPF...I haven't done an oil analysis, but I'm curious beyond the marketing is it good oil? No issues by the way and consumption appears minimal if any...5k changes since 65k and about to cross 114k miles.

  • @chrisbradley3224
    @chrisbradley3224Ай бұрын

    Just a correction to something Lake said at 46 min. The ESP X3 is not the same as Supercar and not the same as the GM oil. ESP Formula 0W-40 was the GM oil that was rebranded Supercar 0W-40. ESP X3 is different and was designed by a separate group in a Porsche-sponsored program despite the fact that it does carry GM Dexos2 approval. I am sure they are somewhat similar oils but ESP X3 has higher HTHS and a different additive package.

  • @boxterjeff
    @boxterjeffАй бұрын

    I just use what Porsche recommends: Mobil1. I have a 991.2.

  • @jozsefizsak
    @jozsefizsakАй бұрын

    Priceless!

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @AutodromoF1
    @AutodromoF122 күн бұрын

    Someone asked about fuel systems cleaners, but I couldn’t understand. Did Lake say use fuel system cleaners once a year even if you always fill up with Top Tier gas (Shell premium)?

  • @srwven
    @srwven8 күн бұрын

    Wow, awesome stuff here.

  • @candyman1967
    @candyman19677 күн бұрын

    Lake, you say not to put additives in oil especially those “Nano” type but right on Driven oils website they mention Nano technology. I’m confused 🤷‍♂️🤣🤣🤣.

  • @thiagobartolo
    @thiagobartoloАй бұрын

    Is there a benefit of using pea fuel additives in a more concentrated dose than recommended?

  • @darksolara6750
    @darksolara6750Ай бұрын

    geat tip on SP for low speed det!! THANK YOU!!

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Happy to help!

  • @misosour
    @misosourАй бұрын

    I’ve been doing everything Lake said not to do :(

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    We are glad this video was helpful! Now you know.

  • @stephencurry8552
    @stephencurry8552Ай бұрын

    I use Archoil in all my vehicles, one of which is a 911. I had a screeching coming from the engine. Intermittent. Started using Archoil additive and the sound went away. My cars crank over faster and get gas mileage higher than what is listed as usual for said car.

  • @davidnonnenmocher5122
    @davidnonnenmocher5122Ай бұрын

    Must watch!!!

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @digdeeep
    @digdeeep24 күн бұрын

    Any recommendations for a fuel additive for diesel?

  • @akrammosbah21
    @akrammosbah21Ай бұрын

    if a company like liqui moly or total like to get an oem approval like vw 502 ...they need to pay 5 to 10 millions dollars or thay pickup the additive from infeniem without paying ??? please clear for as this situation !!!

  • @30YearOldBunta
    @30YearOldBunta9 күн бұрын

    My car takes just over 5L of oil so I often top it off with another brand and now im worried im adding extra wear. Would 600ml of mobil 1 0w40 mixed with 5L of Pennzoil platinum 5w30 compromise the additive pack? Going to pick up an additional quart of matching oil next time.

  • @TexasRiverRat31254
    @TexasRiverRat31254Ай бұрын

    Thanks but it would have been helpful if we could hear the questions from the audience.

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    For sure. Thanks for the feedback. We’ll be handing a microphone to questioners for the next Tech Tactics presentations we record.

  • @Haffschlappe
    @HaffschlappeАй бұрын

    2-4% Mos2 to the oil in old engines is fine Army does the same

  • @zeushualde5627

    @zeushualde5627

    Ай бұрын

    nahhh synthetic oil so good for that.... if you use old oil too....but if you used today's oil.... not good idea....

  • @rodolfob8468
    @rodolfob8468Ай бұрын

    Engine flush should not have been combined with Ceratec. He should have tested Ceratec alone.

  • @White.Elemant

    @White.Elemant

    Ай бұрын

    Did he mix them or the client 🤔

  • @bigdaddymak1439

    @bigdaddymak1439

    Ай бұрын

    His customer did it he's just showing you oil sample results

  • @freddysardinas1351

    @freddysardinas1351

    13 күн бұрын

    Ceratec improved my oil lab results.

  • @chrisarnold769
    @chrisarnold769Ай бұрын

    48:30 is the advice 99% of us need. Match the spec and viscosity called for by the factory. If you're in the 1% that wants to spend a lot more money, probably defeating the point of avoiding engine repair costs, then do oil analysis throughout the life of the engine.

  • @ibrahimqari9189

    @ibrahimqari9189

    Ай бұрын

    You didn’t see the B degree In another video he says: for B student do all C student + chose synthetic engine oil also add the fuel additives PEA.

  • @aliendroneservices6621

    @aliendroneservices6621

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@ibrahimqari9189 49:08 "Cs get degrees."

  • @glenncampos3763
    @glenncampos37636 күн бұрын

    Is it ok to use a diesel oil with the same 5w40 on a gasoline engine? As diesel oil has more additive package

  • @Funkydood
    @Funkydood4 күн бұрын

    Sir: What's your take on Berryman's B-12 Chemtool?!

  • @blackcb7109
    @blackcb710924 күн бұрын

    Is shell/Pennzoil under Chevron ?

  • @wesa665
    @wesa665Ай бұрын

    I’ve used oil tested my diesel truck. Amsoil oil with ceratec additive. 6 oil changes and 60,000 miles. Never anything negative.

  • @chrisbradley3224

    @chrisbradley3224

    Ай бұрын

    It would be the same or better without wasting your money on ceratec. 60k miles is nothing.

  • @m5p944

    @m5p944

    Ай бұрын

    That’s one the best additive in the world. I swear by it

  • @zeushualde5627

    @zeushualde5627

    Ай бұрын

    unless you done oil analysis

  • @freddysardinas1351

    @freddysardinas1351

    13 күн бұрын

    Ceratec have given my cars better oil lab results. Ceratec is awesome.

  • @mikegentzke6424
    @mikegentzke6424Ай бұрын

    Do you do oil analysis for the common man? If so, what’s the process. We own a 2011 Corolla with 180,000 miles and a 2014 Forester with 110,000. I’m curious about the oil after listening to this podcast

  • @blackrifle6736

    @blackrifle6736

    29 күн бұрын

    *Blackstone-Labs oil analysis service has been providing me answers since 1985. Automotive, aircraft (turbine or recip) or stationary engines, they do them all with a 2 ounce sample. Check them out. Cheers!*

  • @erniedevries3243
    @erniedevries3243Ай бұрын

    Good presentation, but really nothing here for those with air cooled engines. I've been running VR1 high zinc formula because it is reportedly better for my engine, but I was hoping for some info that would help with testing that idea.

  • @mikedx2706

    @mikedx2706

    Ай бұрын

    VR1 high zinc is needed in air cooled Porsche and VW engines because they are flat tappet engine designs designed. The newer water cooled Porsche engines didn't use flat tappets.

  • @williamrice4608

    @williamrice4608

    Ай бұрын

    @@mikedx2706 It's needed for small air-cooled engines too (portable generators, lawn mowers, power washers and other fast, hot running engines).

  • @tomc3216
    @tomc3216Ай бұрын

    Man I was hoping he was going to test a car with mystic marvel in the oil.

  • @michaelallen5895
    @michaelallen5895Ай бұрын

    Great presentation! What is your opinion on Stabil?

  • @Duchydog

    @Duchydog

    Ай бұрын

    Use the Techron Marine instead of Stabil it does more (longer stabilizer 2 yr plus has Techron which is PEA). I had advised Lake awhile back about the Marine product. By the way, you only use 1 oz per 10 gallons because it's that concentrated and can continually use it.

  • @blackrifle6736

    @blackrifle6736

    29 күн бұрын

    @@Duchydog *Thank you for the tip. Stabil user for decades in seasonal-use vehicle applications, will now give Techron Marine a go. Cheers!*

  • @RGP_WA
    @RGP_WA7 күн бұрын

    Quite the mystery!

  • @michaelowen2926
    @michaelowen2926Ай бұрын

    Thank you for posting this excellent presentation. I leave choice of oil in my 991 Turbo S to the technicians in the workshop at the Porsche Centre. Owning a 2000 BMW E39 M5 the choice of oil to suit its S62 V8 engine is a hard one. The MARKETING people at Castrol keep changing the formula of their 10W60 ‘Racing spec’ engine oil. My BMW specialist simply uses Mobil1 10W60 performance engine oil. I would appreciate receiving some advice! (Which I am willing to pay for)

  • @thestigisme2349

    @thestigisme2349

    Ай бұрын

    Do an oil analysis and find out

  • @michaelowen2926

    @michaelowen2926

    Ай бұрын

    @@thestigisme2349 thank you - will do!

  • @V8Lenny

    @V8Lenny

    Ай бұрын

    Do not use 10W60 , try 5W30

  • @danielsolomon1710
    @danielsolomon1710Ай бұрын

    FYI Petronas Malaysia makes their own base oil and additive

  • @DarkTouch
    @DarkTouchАй бұрын

    im reading here recently about C40 spec oils required for high RPM engines (GT3, GT4RS, GT3R, etc). What's up with that?

  • @chrisbradley3224

    @chrisbradley3224

    Ай бұрын

    The early analysis seems to indicate that ESP X3 0W-40 and C40 GT 0W-40 are the same oil or very similar. The German rumor is that the new ESP X4 oil that carries API SP has an additive that is not compatible with the DLC coated cams in the GT engines, so they will continue using the current ESP X3 oil which is renamed and has a separate specification created to avoid confusion.

  • @petevenuti7355
    @petevenuti735525 күн бұрын

    I didn't see any comments on Teflon.

  • @LTVoyager
    @LTVoyager3 күн бұрын

    If you talk with a fuel engineer, they will tell you that the only good additive is an oil additive. The reality is that the same applies to fuel as to oil. If you need a fuel additive, you are using the wrong fuel. If you use Top Tier fuel from a name brand supplier, there is no need whatsoever for fuel additives.

  • @johneverett273
    @johneverett273Ай бұрын

    Which Fuel additive do you use?

  • @lancejanowsky7957
    @lancejanowsky7957Ай бұрын

    Thank you Lake. Great presentation. My only question is the Ceratec was never tested alone. It was mixed w a flush which of course nullified any benefit of the ceratec. I would love to see how 'only' ceratec w the boron, Moly, small amount of zddp and calcium does mixed w a good oil and the the resulting wear metals. I am not a believer in additives either or trying to promote ceratec at all. But it does seem like that formulation (in ceratec) could' maybe' b an exception and help. But that is speculation not science. I would love to see a fair test w ceratec alone (mixed w a good oil) and look at wear metals and acidity/etc. Whatever the result is, is fine... But that's the only way to know. That's a fair question and scientific diagnostic thought process isnt it? I would really bet that if u did the wear metal test with just that liquid Moly flush... It would have come back w negative results. My guess is that it wasn't the ceratec that caused that. But maybe I'm wrong. Anyways... Just wanted to run that by u. I'm trying to b fair in my thinking and scientific w careful control groups and variables. Thanks Lake!

  • @yoorichyrichGaming
    @yoorichyrichGamingАй бұрын

    He has a YT channel!!!

  • @dbrandon4528
    @dbrandon4528Ай бұрын

    Lake Speed jr!

  • @ABC-ku1nn
    @ABC-ku1nnАй бұрын

    I have what I hope is a simple question. I am a firm believer in more oil changes more often than what may be given by the manufacturer. The thing I’m interested in is there any downside to oil changes to earlier than recommended like say three to four thousand miles when the oil is able to go ten or so thousand and when with recycling oil and cost is not an issue.

  • @ryantinney

    @ryantinney

    Ай бұрын

    Absolutely no downside other than the cost of more frequent fluid changes.

  • @CJ-wc6lf

    @CJ-wc6lf

    Ай бұрын

    I think the only downside (other than the cost of changing often) is if there is oil in the filter. Always prelube the filter to prevent dry starts. I pour oil in the filter if on my other cars other than the Lexus, which I press the start button with the gas petal down to prelube gently tge Lexus.

  • @ABC-ku1nn

    @ABC-ku1nn

    Ай бұрын

    I couldn’t agree more with the statements I guess I was wondering if some of the different components of the additive package are time initiating like say zddp is changing more often not giving a do they need the time to each work into doing their specific job or would all the individual additives do their part as they go through a normal heat cycle. So would more frequent changes not give any part of additive package the time to say activate and do its job within the mix.

  • @rickss69
    @rickss6928 күн бұрын

    Funny how he fails to mention that "Driven" oils have less film strength than many off the shelf Walmart oils. Seems to think that ZDDP makes any oil a winner. I agree a additive package makes or breaks any oil...not the amount of ZDDP. These are provable and repeatable tests. Likes to tout used oil samples, but has never addressed the fact that ZDDP depletion rates are miniscule in used oil samples. Kind of tells the tale on the continuing ZDDP myth. Measured film strength for Driven oils range from 47,000 t0 104,000 psi and are bested greatly by a boatload of other widely available and cheaper priced oils. Driven "break-in" oils are particularly weak even among other manufacturers similar offerings.

  • @realdeal5883
    @realdeal5883Ай бұрын

    Why doesn't any tester ever go over the BG additives? Good luck finding it, I would love to see it.

  • @AJ-bp9th

    @AJ-bp9th

    Ай бұрын

    Because BG is Snake Oil, the only reason dealers push those products is because BG gives spiffs to the techs and service writers to sell it.

  • @realdeal5883

    @realdeal5883

    Ай бұрын

    @AJ-bp9th Testing would be nice to see it. It's mind-boggling that you can't find it.

  • @svgs650r

    @svgs650r

    Ай бұрын

    Lab analytics cost money and some things just aren’t worth the time or money

  • @realdeal5883

    @realdeal5883

    Ай бұрын

    @@svgs650r that doesn't add up.

  • @svgs650r

    @svgs650r

    Ай бұрын

    @@realdeal5883 of course it does

  • @ibrahimqari9189
    @ibrahimqari9189Ай бұрын

    I am tracking him from video to another to learn from him real world stuff

  • @garylawson5230
    @garylawson5230Ай бұрын

    Should you use engine restore to fill in cylinder scratches

  • @gj91471

    @gj91471

    Ай бұрын

    Use Oil Extreme Concentrate.

  • @gregorymalchuk272

    @gregorymalchuk272

    Ай бұрын

    Engine Restore is shockingly good at reducing oil consumption and visible smoking in junk, worn out engines specifically with bad rings and cylinder bores.

  • @user-vx7vi3vq1c

    @user-vx7vi3vq1c

    Ай бұрын

    NOTHING bonds to cylinder walls. They are coated with oil.

  • @gj91471

    @gj91471

    28 күн бұрын

    @@gregorymalchuk272 First think to check would be Your Engine Oils Noack Volatility Rating.... The lower the number the better.

  • @5jjt
    @5jjtАй бұрын

    I had a chemical flush guy come to our shop and try to sell engine flush. I told him that the one and only time that i used an engine flush on a 100k engine, it spun a bearing within 10k miles. He said because if the 10k, it wasn't due to the flush. I believe otherwise.

  • @JerryHAHA_4311
    @JerryHAHA_431112 күн бұрын

    Never play the chemistry that you only knew a little.

  • @aliendroneservices6621
    @aliendroneservices6621Ай бұрын

    7:14 7:18 LAC = *_Least Additive Concentration_*

  • @healthwellness8111
    @healthwellness8111Ай бұрын

    OK, I could use some clarity here. At 30:47 minutes in, Lake presents an example of a BMW engine that showed good results using Liqui Moly 5w40, then shows a follow up where the owner used Liqui Moly 5w40 + Ceratec + LM Engine Flush. Lake states the three components were used at the SAME TIME (30:54). Is that correct? Read the bottle much? The flush is only used for 10-15 minutes at idle just before being removed with the old oil before an oil change. Did the BMW owner specify if they changed out the old oil with the engine flush in it? Did they do a proper oil change and add the Ceratec only with fresh oil? Of course the numbers and wear will jump significantly if the engine flush is still in there. Lake - will you please clarify? And great presentation! Thx!

  • @clearclearerjesus4717

    @clearclearerjesus4717

    Ай бұрын

    That was my thought exactly. If the Engine Flush is staying in there, of course it's going to wear the Engine more. There is good reason why it's supposed to stay in the oil for 15 Minuten and RPM at idle. You don't wanna Put load in it while the Engine Flush is in there... I have Had good experiences with Ceratec and 5w 40 in my Volvo S70 2.4NA 170 HP 488T KM. I noticed That it Had better throttle Response and some more Power and smoother running Engine. I added it in to the Engine 5T KM after i did an oil Change... My dad also Had good luck using it in his VW Sharan. Greetings

  • @healthwellness8111

    @healthwellness8111

    Ай бұрын

    @@clearclearerjesus4717 Yup, I use Liqui Moly Leichtlauf High Tech SAE 5W-40 on my 2017 Macan GTS. I have used the Engine Flush and Ceratec on four engines. On my BMW N52 engine, it made a very noticeable difference in sound and smoothness. Same for my wife's Lexus IS350. Both of those cars were at about 130k miles when treated. I did not notice any difference on the Macan at 56k miles, and the other engine is a Toyota 1.8 liter in a Pontiac Vibe - it's a very basic car and a bit of a rattle-trap.

  • @healthwellness8111

    @healthwellness8111

    Ай бұрын

    @@clearclearerjesus4717 Also, note that the viscosity on Lake's chart dropped into the caution zone for the second test. Is that a reflection of the Engine Flush? The Ceratec? Both?

  • @rodolfob8468

    @rodolfob8468

    Ай бұрын

    Yeah his research, excuse me experience is incomplete. This would have been complete if he would have included Ceratec and BG.

  • @chrisbradley3224

    @chrisbradley3224

    Ай бұрын

    It really does not matter. Engine oil additives are snake oil. If there were benefits to be had by throwing in a ton of relatively cheap additive, OEMs would already be doing it because lower friction lowers fuel consumption and lower wear means they can lower the viscosity and therefore get lower fuel consumption.

  • @stevegunderson2392
    @stevegunderson239229 күн бұрын

    Shell makes synthetic based oils via ownership of Pennzoil that synthesizes oils from natural gas. I find it very odd that he does not mention this as in other videos he has good things to say about Pennzoil. Those companies are NOT the only four that make synthetis oils! He should have mentioned Shell!

  • @44hawk28
    @44hawk28Ай бұрын

    I have known that General Motors oil life monitors are superior. One of the few things General Motors actually makes that are superior. The problem I have with General Motors is I've taken apart several LS motors, and when you have an average ring gap of 30,000. That is way too large of a gap. Your oil is not going to last very long and you're going to lose a lot of it. There's no reason why a 5.3 or a 6.0 should have anything larger than an .018 to 0.020 ring Gap. Total seal Rings would help tremendously. But that top ring still needs a much tighter gap. They do it for the fact that they're making these engines by the thousands. But if you can make it in 30 thou by the thousands, you can make it in 20 thou by the thousands. In addition, you made the comment on another video that fr3 did not do anything but to thin the oil. And the reason I have used very minimal amounts of fr3 a couple of times is precisely because Gale Banks has found that it offers less parasitic drag in the application of adding to your differential oil. What did Gale Banks miss. Exactly what is in fr3. Something you did not tell us. Is it only a very thin base oil or is there something actually in it that provides some sort of a service to the oil. And what about the additive link kite which is used in almost all aircraft internal combustion applications, and has been known to work for years. And that is what we now call zMAX. What does zMAX actually do. According to my understanding it actually soaks into the metal and helps keep carbon from sticking and keeps it soluble so that it can be rinsed out of the engine. Which should, reduce wear?

  • @johnlayzell5088
    @johnlayzell5088Ай бұрын

    Presenter should always repeat the questions from the unamplified audience.

  • @ClassicInvestments1
    @ClassicInvestments1Ай бұрын

    cant hear the questions very well.

  • @carrerados

    @carrerados

    Ай бұрын

    He repeats every question….

  • @ClassicInvestments1

    @ClassicInvestments1

    Ай бұрын

    @@carrerados not all of them..

  • @leousa25
    @leousa25Ай бұрын

    Never lost an engine using Chevron gas,with Mobil 1 oil in the engine

  • @BlackhawkPilot
    @BlackhawkPilotАй бұрын

    Lake, when recording you need to repeat questions from the audience.

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    noted

  • @KarolosAthens
    @KarolosAthens28 күн бұрын

    ΝΕSTE !!!!!!

  • @porscherain
    @porscherainАй бұрын

    Summary please

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    I guess you just have to watch the whole video😂

  • @chrisarnold769

    @chrisarnold769

    Ай бұрын

    Follow the guidance in your owner's manual, or pay more and get oil analysis with professional advice.

  • @bobstitzenberger1834

    @bobstitzenberger1834

    Ай бұрын

    The first 2 minutes summarizes. Don't mess with your oil. No oil additives. Only fuel additives.

  • @aliendroneservices6621

    @aliendroneservices6621

    Ай бұрын

    ​​@@bobstitzenberger18346:33 6:58 And the fuel additive should be PEA (4 brands to choose from).

  • @toniwonkanobi
    @toniwonkanobiАй бұрын

    Is there a TL;DR available? Lol

  • @Hoster987

    @Hoster987

    Ай бұрын

    1) PEA is good, 2) oil additives not needed, 3) test your oil 🙂

  • @toniwonkanobi

    @toniwonkanobi

    Ай бұрын

    @@Hoster987 Thanks for this! (What is PEA?)

  • @carlb86

    @carlb86

    Ай бұрын

    His own channel has the tldr

  • @blackrifle6736

    @blackrifle6736

    29 күн бұрын

    @@toniwonkanobi *PolyEtherAmine fuel additives. Red Line SI-1 and Techron are but two examples.*

  • @keithm7087
    @keithm7087Ай бұрын

    So if I understand what he is saying, companies like Amsoil don't really have the resources to properly test their oils to the same standard as the big guys.

  • @wally6193

    @wally6193

    Ай бұрын

    I find it hard to believe that Amsoil doesn't test their oils to the same standards as as any of the big guys.

  • @chrisbradley3224

    @chrisbradley3224

    Ай бұрын

    @@wally6193 Amsoil can probably conduct many tests and does have some engines in their lab. However, no one outside of the majors (Mobil, Shell) or additive package mfgs like Infineum, Lubrizol, Afton, etc. can do the full suite of ASTM + API/ACEA + OEM tests. Most boutique oil manufacturers don't even do any real testing in engines and just start with a pre-approved additive package.

  • @wally6193

    @wally6193

    Ай бұрын

    @@chrisbradley3224 Okay, so does that put Pennzoil, Redline, RP, Castrol and a few others in the same category, I'm guessing yes. I've used Amsoil for almost 20 years in my 4.7l 4R, the engine ran the same since day 1, actually I changed all of the lubes in it to Amsoil. Same with the RX350, both with Amsoil SS.

  • @chrisbradley3224

    @chrisbradley3224

    Ай бұрын

    @@wally6193 No, Castrol and Pennzoil are BP and Shell. Everyone else, yes.

  • @wally6193

    @wally6193

    Ай бұрын

    @@chrisbradley3224 right I forgot Pennzoil was BP or are they Shell?

  • @bobansupergenije7512
    @bobansupergenije7512Ай бұрын

    Bravo

  • @PorscheClubofAmerica

    @PorscheClubofAmerica

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

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