The GHOST Lots of El Paso & Horizon City | 2022
Do you or someone you know own land outside of El Paso Texas? In this episode, John breaks down the story behind the "ghost lots" and shows you exactly what the area looks like today!
0:00 Intro
1:17 Backstory
2:45 How much are they worth?
3:27 Why is there no water infrastructure here?
4:27 Reddit Gossip
4:49 Fractionalized Lot Act
6:20 What would need to happen/Wrap up
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THANK YOU! My grandparents had purchased one of the lots, which passed to my Dad, and he doesn't know what to do with it. This was extremely helpful thank you!
I had a relative that got suckered into buying a couple lots, he paid the taxes for 40 years and no return, he died and we continued to pay the taxes until well after his wife died. We are now a good 60 years later and I’m glad they talking about doing something. After talking to a lawyer and real estate people we have stopped pay taxes, it maybe the best for the area if they just eminent domain the land anyway.
I am one of these Owners. East horizon City
Thank you! My grandmother & great-grandmother bought lots years ago! It's very cool to actually see it, kinda what I expected, but thank you. I would honestly love it if they just eminent domain took it - what am i going to do with it from way up here with 3 lots spread out and way away from any hope of infrastructure. But most of all, thank you for doing this - I could see how you could really upsell it into a great area (pre-internet, of course)
@zek497
3 ай бұрын
Behind horizon high school?
My folks bought about an acre and a half in the 1960s. We still get mail every once in a while saying that the sender wants to buy the lot. As far as I can tell none of these offers are real. It's just scammers continuing with a new scam aimed at victims of an old one from nearly 60 years ago. They usually say they have a buyer provided you pay them their "fee" up front. Something to that affect.
Thank you! My grandparents inherited 2 lots totaling 0.5 acre from my grandpas aunt. My grandma forgot all about the land since recently. I called the number on some papers she found and none of my family has called about it since 2008. I’ll be calling the county to see how much is owed in back taxes and see if they are willing to make an offer!
Great info regarding the so called “ghost lots”. I’ve always wondered what happened to the owners of those lots. I hope the county drags their feet so I can enjoy a few more years of off-roading out there.. plus I like not having any neighbors hahaha
My parents bought two of these lots and paid taxes on them since the 1960s. My parents are both gone and my sister and I own them now. Guess we'll reach out to the county and see what to do next. We occasionally get letters from developers wanting to buy them.
Thank you for the information sir!
@LivingInElPasoTexas
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching Ruben!
If some of those landowners haven't been paying property taxes, could the county come at them with a property tax bill? If so, would El Paso County say "pay your property tax, or we will take your property? Just a thought.
@truckingwithj7202
Жыл бұрын
Possibly, but I think the problem there is they wouldn't be able to resell the land without water access. County doesn't want to pay that.
@purescoops915
Жыл бұрын
From what I have been told... The land is so low in value that there are no taxes due.
I remember back in the early 90s there were billboards up along joe battle selling 10 acres for $10k. I looked into it and the land was in the Joe battle & pelicano area. I bet whoever bought that land made some money.
My in-laws have two horizon city lots, they just received an offer of $2500 each.
Interesting! - Colony Ridge sent me this way.
How would someone go about getting “ a fair & reasonable offer”? Do we call the county or would a offer from a developer be a better way to go? We get letters from companies wanting to buy - some are not even from Texas- hard to determine if they are legit.
My father owns one of these lots- we are going to reach out to the County. Thank you for making this video. (He bought it in the 1960's, was promised it would be a great investment.)
@elshaddai87
10 ай бұрын
Any luck?
@brettm4643
10 ай бұрын
@elshaddai87 weeks of calling El Paso County offices got me nowhere. We were told there was interest in the county acquiring these but they didn't seem to show any interest. Are you in the same position?
@elshaddai87
10 ай бұрын
@@brettm4643 I am! but with a twist... my (and my sister's) 2 lots are still in my late father's name, c/o my mother who passed in 2018!! Mom kept up paying the taxes on it and we have too. I am afraid it would cost us more in attorney fees to straighten this out than the lots are worth!
@jamost
8 күн бұрын
@@brettm4643I know this comment is 9 mos old but any update on this now? We’re starting to look into ours after El Paso started sending us tax bills
@brettm4643
8 күн бұрын
@jamost we've never received a tax bill but if that begins to happen one would think the land owners would have stronger rights to demand action.. please stay in touch
Great video John, same thing applies out in Sierra Blanca. So much raw land for sale out there that doesn’t have development on the horizon.
That place looks like if a storm should go there it would be a lake out break
I have to agree with @cocogomez1987 here. When you look at other cities in the southwest, like Las Vegas, with their current water/resource issues you could say this stems from over development. If we're going to develop in the El Paso area we should do it sustainably and smart. Maybe these "ghost lots" should remain that way.
My understanding is that the government has to pay the owner what the government thinks is fair market value under eminent domain. Is that not correct?
I heard there was the same scam going on in New Mexico also.....
@eddieibarra356
Жыл бұрын
In Chaparal New Mexico.
Does the city remove the trash that’s been dumped there?
@geronimo1022
3 ай бұрын
No, they do not. I buy these lots with tires & trash on them, I keep buying!
Build Earthships like they have in Taos, NM. Problem solved.
The city can use IMINATE DOMAIN. They used it to take all the land under the Spaghetti bowl... and that area near the Bus station and Civic center.
@purescoops915
Жыл бұрын
That was because it was unsafe for living. Flooded multiple years and those folks were paid very well for their homes. I know someone who lived there. They got enough to buy two homes.
I have one I have already checked all my paperwork and names plus dates with the country of El Paso with the land taxe office off the 10 neer tolbridge dubble checked with the city of Horizon and Clint have too check it all no one likes to get you the information you need you have to make them do thiar jobs
When are they gonna open up the land to expand montwood? Zaragoza is a MESS ALWAYS HAS BEEN ALWAYS WILL BE
So why does KZread allow landmodo advertise owner land sales in Elpaso
It’s funny he don’t have any interest in the land but he is a realtor telling you how worthless your land is. 😮
I ride dirtbikes out there and shoot guns great times in the ghost lots
What ever happened to when the taxes are not paid, the property goes to tax auction? Problem solved. Leave it to government to make a non-issue into something to spend more money on. If the taxes are paid, mind your own business, it is private property. Common sense is just not that common any more.
This video was made only 17 months after Eastlake Market Place was completed, I Wonder If He makes another video About This same lots within the next 10 years or less if he would be finding it "funny" still Dont listen to negativity people , Money follows where it is welcomed and attracted dont listen to naysayers
Just sell it before it is worth nothing, or the city county will take it for free.
Leave the land alone ! Use the already abandoned shopping centers that already litter our area. Keep the desert the desert!
Lol .. why are real state agents selling this lots ? Isn’t illegal ? El Paso county of course wants to buy them for cheap and sell them to their friend developers and those developers will make a huge profit 😂