Couldn't agree more to that, many players want to play but not develop and end up going elsewhere, but I'm ok with that because as you mentioned, we want players who WANT TO BE HERE

@onescoopjohn

8 күн бұрын

Absolutely! Thanks Keoki

@taxisquad11

7 күн бұрын

LOLOLOL ALL schools have nothing but players that WANT TO BE THERE. Once again proving Michigan IS NOT that special

@montrellbradshaw1399

7 күн бұрын

Those 3* players y’all keep saying Michigan developing be old 5th and 6th year players and don’t get drafted high or at all. Y’all really act like Michigan sending 3* to the league year and out being true they class

@user-wp3cy3fl2j

7 күн бұрын

@@montrellbradshaw1399 Could you re-post that in English please.

@taxisquad11

4 күн бұрын

ALL players want to be where they are. Michigan IS NOT that special

Wow!! One heckuva analysis. Just subscribed. Gonna be a great year fellas

@onescoopjohn

8 күн бұрын

Thank you so much!

We don't recruit like GA, Bama, TX, or Ohio and we never will. We can't even beat ND recruiting 😂 That's the depressing truth.

@iidentifyasanapple8932

8 күн бұрын

Oof. Just won a championship and still not even in that conversation 😔

@DavidWilliams-yd4nh

8 күн бұрын

That just tells me recruiting is overrated. I mean whose really giving out these *. Get guys that want to be at ur program and develop them. It's proven to work. We gotta stop with the whole recruiting narrative. I mean let's be honest schools have been paying to have recruits come to their school for a long long time.

@trimjunkie21

8 күн бұрын

It would help if Michigan could actually keep guys like Dante Moore, CJ Carr, Bryce Underwood. They don't care about being the best year after year, that's all there is to it.

@user-wp3cy3fl2j

8 күн бұрын

@@trimjunkie21 Michigan wins with player development. Doesn't matter how many stars they have coming out of high school, development is far more important.

@demodiums7216

8 күн бұрын

@@DavidWilliams-yd4nh Yeah. All that matters is if you can cheat the best...

Bama was the standard, especially when they were more physical. Bama owns GA. Yet, Ga seems to be the new standard, particularly since they have Kirby Smart.

Michigan recruits with character given more weight than most other teams. That's why they can coach a three or four-star player who's willing to work hard into a four or five-star player.

@SatansShart

8 күн бұрын

One of the oldest, most comical “Michigan Man” talking points in CFB history. If true, why does UM offer tons of 4&5 star players every yr that reject them for those “other teams.” This would mean that those other teams are getting the BEST good character players, no?

@user-wp3cy3fl2j

8 күн бұрын

@@SatansShart Your response tells me you have no idea what my point was in my original post.

@ammielcoats9762

8 күн бұрын

In this nil era that 💩 ain't going to work plus other teams are leveling up and developed players as well. That's why Moore is trying to recruit better wr's cause he knows you can only play that bully ball for so long when there will be teams that can stopped it.

@user-wp3cy3fl2j

8 күн бұрын

@@ammielcoats9762 SEC teams have been buying players for decades, where have you been? The only difference is that now everyone can buy players. 😅

@ammielcoats9762

8 күн бұрын

@@user-wp3cy3fl2j and what's your point hell Georgia was recruiting at a high level under mark richt and I know he wasn't paying players the state of Georgia just got great high school talent I lived there for 16yrs I know it is what it is. Georgia is mich on steroids when it comes to the players scheme and attitude is still the same.

Forty percent passing is just fine if you can run the ball down opponents throats. Don't look at what other teams do, look at your players capabilities and what works. Harbaugh didn't get anywhere until he went back to what he does and what his players could do best. Just look at the Penn State game, 32 consecutive runs. If they can't stop it, keep doing it.

@onescoopjohn

8 күн бұрын

@@user-wp3cy3fl2j I don’t disagree completely, and said that on the show before, but having an overly run heavy strategy has ramifications for offensive recruiting and playing the most elite opponents.

@johnnywebb2351

8 күн бұрын

Agreed 👍🏾

@user-wp3cy3fl2j

7 күн бұрын

@@onescoopjohn Does it? Passing teams will attract pass receivers and passing quarterbacks and running teams will attract running backs, tight ends and offensive lineman. Each type of team will attract a different type of player. Winning teams attract a lot of players.

@montrellbradshaw1399

7 күн бұрын

@@onescoopjohnexactly, you not beating UG running the ball they way they recruit you have to beat them over the top OSU and bama proven that, that’s why Michigan got smacked by them the first year in the playoffs

@farriskhan2352

7 күн бұрын

@@montrellbradshaw1399 Fun fact: In 2023…Alabama, undefeated in the “high flying SEC” and the team that “beat Georgia”, ran MORE than Michigan (62% run v 61%).

why would we want to be georgia when they defended scared and lost to alabama? they defended milroe with a spy and let him throw while we just hounded him with the rush without mercy but did so with gap integrity so he couldn't get free and run and we took away the passing game. not only are we developing players, but we're also running schemes that take advantage of the skills we're developing. they're just relying on superior talent.

@samariohoward6298

7 күн бұрын

@@secretasianman2531 ga just didnt have personal to do what we did

@taxisquad11

7 күн бұрын

What wants to be MIchigan when they've only been relevant 3 times in the past 2 decades

@montrellbradshaw1399

7 күн бұрын

@@taxisquad11it kills me, they really act like Michigan been this good I’m 33 and for the most part when I understood maybe 12 years old Michigan football have been average at best with a few good season here and there

@jusprazem1

6 күн бұрын

@@montrellbradshaw1399 to be fair to Michigan, they got their guy in Harbaugh that developed the winning style for them just as Kirby was Georgia's guy that did the same. Harbaugh left a great coach behind at Stanford and had them winning. He may have left a great coach in Moore as his successor to continue the same success. It remains to be seen.

@farriskhan2352

8 күн бұрын

Love the emojis!

When did Michigan become the standard for CFB? It’s UGA, full stop, that’s it. Also, Max was on Holes show and said he had problems snapping but was still one of the best centers in blocking. If you are going to ASSUME he’s not going to fix a snapping problem from one year, what tells you Orji is gonna fix his accuracy problem he’s had his whole relative football life?

@MichiganVOCFB

8 күн бұрын

Pretty sure they own the B1G "checks notes" They do!

@SBSBuckeyeG

8 күн бұрын

@@MichiganVOCFB that doesn’t make you the standard in the COLLEGE FOOTBALL LANDSCAPE. OSU dominated the conference for a much longer before that and they weren’t the standard. So there goes that argument. Right out the window.

@juicesghost8501

8 күн бұрын

@@SBSBuckeyeG Bro, you good? You need a hug?

@SBSBuckeyeG

8 күн бұрын

@@juicesghost8501 we’re talking about football. I think I will do fine without a hug.

@hughmann4654

8 күн бұрын

I'm def not assuming Orji will ever be accurate enough. They can have blind faith but not I.

Calling for Harbaugh to be fired may have just been the push he needed to change, it may have actually helped because Harbaugh doesn't like to lose.

@SatansShart

8 күн бұрын

Connor may have helped harbaugh too

@user-wp3cy3fl2j

8 күн бұрын

@@SatansShart You should consider counseling if you can't get over your team losing. As the president of the NCAA said, "Michigan won the National Championship fair and square".

@SatansShart

8 күн бұрын

But notice he didn’t speak to the entire 2.5yrs of program elevating cheating preceding that run, nor cheating that happened DURING the champshp season. Nattys aren’t earned over a few games alone. They’re earned in a culmination of an entire season… in your case, 15 games. Your natty is forever tarnished and asterisked, unlike any other program in the history of CFB

@Steven-mh1jc

8 күн бұрын

You need help

@SatansShart

8 күн бұрын

@Steven-mh1jc I agree I need help… it would take at least a boatload of professsional psychotherapists to treat Cheatigan fan delusion. I certainly can’t do it alone

Georgia the standard for the SEC but Bama has won 3/4 Sec championships in the last four years alone. Make it make sense?

@MichiganVOCFB

7 күн бұрын

Saban is gone, they have a new coach its a new era

@smoove3762

7 күн бұрын

@@MichiganVOCFB same thing for Michigan n I like our new coach better than yals!

I would also take McCord. He’s fine, nothing special, but can you imagine the heads exploding if we beat them with the QB they discarded 💙〽️

@SBSBuckeyeG

8 күн бұрын

He left, we didn’t discard him.

@SatansShart

8 күн бұрын

McCord and his dad wanted a guarantee he’d be the starter in ‘24, OSU doesn’t work like that

@markmudget3794

8 күн бұрын

My comment was obviously hypothetical. He didn’t have a gun to his head. It’s no mystery he was persona non grata in Columbus. National sources have often reported as much.

@SatansShart

8 күн бұрын

@markmudget3794 Fair point

@onescoopjohn

8 күн бұрын

No thanks. Helicopter parenting doesn’t mix well with Michigan’s meritocracy culture. The best players play. McCord had great throws and he had WTF throws. Very inconsistent. His OL did him no favors, and even the receivers sometimes didn’t run great routes. But he seemed to shrink in the largest moments.

Have you checked out Bama recruiting lately. Bama doesn't appear to be going anywhere 😢

@farriskhan2352

8 күн бұрын

Georgia is 1-8 v Alabama in their last 9. You are right.

@MichiganVOCFB

8 күн бұрын

New head coach, wait and see mode.

@oluwatomisinokunade4201

8 күн бұрын

So do yall as well as new assistant coaches. That’s why the we develop thing is hilarious because yall don’t even have the same coaches

@NattyTime517

8 күн бұрын

@@oluwatomisinokunade4201 my comment was Bama is not going anywhere....now add, they are having no drop-off in recruiting. Anyone that thought they were going away/dismissing them, like they did in this show, is delusional.

@onescoopjohn

8 күн бұрын

We’ll see ! Georgia won the last two titles and has lost one game in three years.

I don’t care what anyone says the Michigan scandal unknowns are hurting recruiting.i live in Tampa and the Boys at IMG still talk about it. It’s not like people want to be known as a cheater but they don’t even want to be associated with the thought of what may have happened. The NCAA really needs to say nothing happened so The world Of college football can move on. If there is substance to Connor and his scheme , well then there’s a whole new problem. Game over!!!

RECRUITING is how Georgia does it

@user-wp3cy3fl2j

8 күн бұрын

Does what? Misses making the playoffs altogether?

we all know the saying what goes around goes around…those schools has been pay for play since Nick went to LSU…don’t forget he’s the same coach at MSU & at MIAMI in the NFL. Nick didn’t become ish til LSU (sec) girls taught him to pay for chips…I don’t respect that & it’s hindering NCAA…these kids are missing the goal which is to go pro. ThT NIL money given to a teenager will not help nor last especially at the schools who rotate 5* players each year. That money isn’t promised either…then what are you teaching to student body???? That’s the entire purpose of college’s period for development of the mind & preparation for life. Not running around taking all the handouts commit them enter the portal like Ewers did OSU…they said that was planned for him from the get home…he was cming back home to Texas We will continue to prevail & continue developing our players. Pay for play that’s what you get on the field as well

@taxisquad11

7 күн бұрын

You sound like a socialist/communist. Colleges make 10's of Millions off football players. Those like Putin want to keep it all

Mich isn't the standard yet have to be more consistent like Georgia.

@JuwwnDunbar

8 күн бұрын

Michigan finna 3peat national championships 🏆🏆🏆

@ammielcoats9762

8 күн бұрын

@@JuwwnDunbar how gotta win back to back first

@JuwwnDunbar

7 күн бұрын

@@ammielcoats9762 they will, Michigan built the new blueprint on winning chips. Michigan go 3peat Natty's

@ammielcoats9762

7 күн бұрын

@JuwwnDunbar let me put you on game. Only 3 teams have won a natty with lesser recruiting players. FSU,Clemson and mich let that sink in meaning it Only happens rarely. Numbers don't lie recruiting does matter along with development mich isn't the only team that develops. Georgia proved it having a historic defense and lost them in the draft and won another one. TALENT reloading I love Moore but we don't know him and his staff can do what Harbaugh did.

@taxisquad11

7 күн бұрын

@@JuwwnDunbar LOLOLOLOLOL Do you idiots believe that shat or do you just like to make fools of yourself

As much as you want to cherry pick certain plays by OSU LT Josh Fryar, he was still named 1st Team All-B1G 10 by Media and 3rd Team by Coaches last season. While you're pointing fingers, let's not forget your Myles Hinton struggling last season against the likes of Bowling Green. Fryar has already made drastic improvement phiscally in the off season, and like you expect Hinton to improve with more coaching, same can be said of Fryar. Michigan doesn't hold a monopoly on development.

I feel Michigan is moving closer and closer to the Georgia Standard.....Soon it will just be the Michigan Standard!!!! Go Blue!!!!

@SatansShart

8 күн бұрын

Georgia didn’t cheat to get to where they are, which means they can sustain their level of success

@RoyMesser

8 күн бұрын

Sure they haven’t….just like all the Top Recruiting teams didn’t drop bags for years…..getting top talent is a much better way to cheat…..don’t throw stones in a glass house!!!! Get over it!!! We sure have!!!!

@SatansShart

8 күн бұрын

@RoyMesser If you’re caught breaking a law, good luck telling the judge “it’s ok bcuz I’ve heard other people are breaking laws too” Pro tip: hammering out exclamation points doesn’t make your points any more legit

@RoyMesser

8 күн бұрын

You sure sound Salty. I’m feeling great! My Team just won the Natty. We did it without cheating by the way. Also, good thing we’re not going in front of a judge. LOL….NCAA are a joke…they pick and choose who they want to pick on and have very little power when they do….they won’t be around to pick on anyone soon….then what will your excuse be????

@taxisquad11

7 күн бұрын

Are you stupid or do like to gaslight?

I love Nick Saban definitely the 🐐 but saying Bama not the standard solely on losing Nick Saban is such a lazy take!

@RoyMesser

8 күн бұрын

I respect Alabama and Nick Saben.....Sorry, last I checked he is not the Head Coach anymore! I hope for your team your new Coach is just as good.....Go Blue!!!!

@smoove3762

8 күн бұрын

@@RoyMesser I understand that but what does us not having Nick Saban truly mean?! I can say the same thing about Michigan if we solely basing it off new coaches is my point last time I checked Harbaugh gone. I think Bama is in a better sustainable situation than Michigan

@RoyMesser

7 күн бұрын

@@smoove3762 Our Culture is intact. We have a new head coach with our culture basicly transfering over. Your team has a new coach with new Culture. That is the biggest difference. Alabama will still do really well! I wish your team the best! Go Blue!!!

Michigan isn’t even close to being the standard. First national championship in 26 years and all of a sudden Michigan gets to be in that conversation…. Come on dude….. I don’t even consider Ohio State close to being the standard. 2 national titles since 2000 doesn’t cut it. Winning the B10 year after year doesn’t cut it. Michigan doesn’t recruit well enough to be at that level. Sure you can add in development that you guys constantly talk about, but that takes time and the development has gone to the NFL. I think Michigan will stay relevant, but not at that level. Win another national title in the next 2 years and then there’s talk. The only team that came close to even touching the Bama standard was Clemson. That 2015-2020 run was unbelievable. 2 national titles, 4 national title appearances, made the playoffs every year. They went 2-1 vs Bama in national title games. Also, they were bringing in top recruiting classes. Michigans run since 2021: 3 B10 titles, 3 straight playoff appearances and one national title. But…. Getting blown out by Georgia in 2021 and losing to TCU in 2022 (who got throttled on the biggest stage in college football) in the semi finals doesn’t help Michigans case to be the standard.

@MasonShinrock

7 күн бұрын

It’s Michigan and Georgia then everyone else. Cry about it lol

@BuckeyesBattleCry

7 күн бұрын

@@MasonShinrock You just made a statement….. Where’s your reasoning?

@MasonShinrock

7 күн бұрын

@@BuckeyesBattleCry 40-3 and 42-2 in 3 years. It’s not just one year. This is the trend this decade. 2010s was Bama, Clemson and Ohio state. This decade it’s Michigan and Georgia

@BuckeyesBattleCry

7 күн бұрын

@@MasonShinrock You do realize that Michigan had the oldest team in college football the last 2-3 years? Almost all 5th or 6th year players. Georgia just reloads and does it all again. Can Michigan do the same after losing almost everyone to the draft? I’m going to say no because of recruiting. That’s the difference.

@MasonShinrock

7 күн бұрын

@BuckeyesBattleCry No they were not all 5th and 6th year lol. Michigan has the best development in the country. So it's basically like they recruit at a top 5 level because they develop so well.

You are showing your ignorance. Ohio State's right tackle was 1st team All-Big Ten last year

@onescoopjohn

8 күн бұрын

Watch Menace2Sports’ Bourbon and Ball review of this game. A Buckeye perspective showing what went down on specific plays

3 years is not enough to claim to be one of the top 2 programs in the country. Before those 3 years Ohio State beat Michigan FIFTEEN out of 16 times. Those 16 years Michigan was as soft as a baby's ars.

@user-wp3cy3fl2j

8 күн бұрын

Not anymore! Ancient history.

@orondestokes1647

8 күн бұрын

@@taxisquad11 we all know the saying what goes around goes around…those schools has been pay for play since Nick went to LSU…don’t forget he’s the same coach at MSU & at MIAMI in the NFL. Nick didn’t become ish til LSU (sec) girls taught him to pay for chips…I don’t respect that & it’s hindering NCAA…these kids are missing the goal which is to go pro. ThT NIL money given to a teenager will not help nor last especially at the schools who rotate 5* players each year. That money isn’t promised either…then what are you teaching to student body???? That’s the entire purpose of college’s period for development of the mind & preparation for life. Not running around taking all the handouts commit them enter the portal like Ewers did OSU…they said that was planned for him from the get home…he was cming back home to Texas We will continue to prevail & continue developing our players. Pay for play that’s what you get on the field as well Go Blue!!!

@MichiganVOCFB

7 күн бұрын

lol

@MasonShinrock

7 күн бұрын

Michigan is 40-3 in 3 years. Georgia is 42-2. They are the standard whether you like it or not

@taxisquad11

7 күн бұрын

@@MasonShinrock What happens in 3 years males no one a standard of anything. Just before those 3 years Ohio State beat Michgian FIFTEEN out of 16 times. Michigan has to get Georgia on their schedule like Ohio State does..Georgia has twice as many National Titles than Michigan has and won 2 in a row in those 3 years. Once again proving Michigan IS NOT that special