Makes sense to be able to patent a gene modification. But patenting a discovery just doesn't make sense. That would be like patenting gravity because you were the first to measure its presence.

@SuperibyP

6 жыл бұрын

FutureNow I agree - I'd have no issue with Myriad patenting a testing kit optimised for BRCA1-2 mutations, but patenting the mutations themselves is silly.

@aantony2001

6 жыл бұрын

The distinction is not so clear though. Library of Babel is an online library with anything that has been written and could ever be written in English. When you write something, do you really create it or do you just discover a meaningful entry?

@ahmadibrahim5191

6 жыл бұрын

FutureNow Well said...

@wantedpwner

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly. The worst part is that they patented BRCA1 only knowing that it was involved in breast cancer. Not knowing why and how. Imagine patenting the rest of the human genome, because one of the genes codes for something people would, sometime in the future, be interested in researching. It doesn't make sense. A gene modification on the other hand is like a product, indeed, so then it would make sense. That's like saying you take the raw material, which is the organism, and you make a product of it by changing its genome. (I study life sciences and we literally begun Genetics at the start of the year (the BRCA1 and BRCA2 genes were mentioned in lectures and my book "Genetics: analysis and principles by Brooker". Yeah I have to put this part in the comments so you know that I am not a person that just googled a few things).

@waderedsox

6 жыл бұрын

that was EXACTLY what i thought it would be like patenting newtons gravitational equations

What makes me mad about Myriad isn't that they patented the sequence, it's that they decided to screw everyone over and charge over $4000 for the test. It's greedy and disgusting.

@spsmith6919

4 жыл бұрын

Patenting a piece of the human genome isn't greedy and disgusting otherwise? If they're scum enough to patent a line of human genetic code, of course they'll charge a fortune for it; that's the point.

"Shouldn't a company be rewarded for their years of research?" But in the Myriad case, it came from a state university, funded by taxpayers. It doesn't seem fair that we the people paid for the research, and then let them turn around and upcharge us for it. This happens all the time with pharmaceutical companies.

@vdinh143

6 жыл бұрын

That's probably why the people who knew their shit voted unanimously against it.

@leoliu1185

6 жыл бұрын

Truth is state university and the inventors together hold the right to the patent and they can license it out to form a company. So the profit is shared among the inventors (private) and the university for improving general education and facilities since state universities are Non-for-profit. That's why university research and tech transfer and licensing are popular and ethical.

@elessal

6 жыл бұрын

and football stadiums

@leoliu1185

6 жыл бұрын

vasalem very true. But usually stadiums are donor based. Famous alumni use stadium for posterity.

@flaviusclaudius7510

6 жыл бұрын

Also, the scientists were rewarded for their years of research: that's what they were _paid_ for

7:23 Yeah, you choose not to buy their seeds, and then when a nearby farm buys their seeds and their plants inevitably cross-pollinate with yours, Monsanto hops in and sues you. Now, you either use their seeds or you lose all your money.

@aladeenmadafaka2462

4 жыл бұрын

screaming of course, its only natural that plants reproduce, u cannot patent nature, even acording to neoliberal law, that's FLAGRANTLY unlawful and judges are eather geting bribed or are just ignoring law acordind to their ideology

In Myriad's case, couldn't they just patent the METHOD for testing for that gene mutation? Rather than the genes themselves? I'm pretty sure that's how patent trolls get around that sort of thing. Patenting the idea of connecting to a central server and such...

@karlosbricks2413

6 жыл бұрын

Not really, because testing for something in a gene sequence is not complex or new, and relatively cheap, if the gene isn't patented, anyone could just check for it in their business, that isn't even what Myriad achieved, It's the Gene Sequence that is new, the method has to include the gene, and if the Gene cannot be patented, I don't think there is anyway around that ruling, plus, someone would have taken them to court for that anyway

@Nick-ce6lt

6 жыл бұрын

I guess KarlosBricks knew better

@VocalMabiMaple

5 жыл бұрын

Oh hey! I love your videos! I also happen to agree with you here. The genome itself shouldn't be patented, but a method of finding it/modifying should begin.

A tip for future videos: the names of genes are written in lower case letters, and in italic, so it would be _brca1_ . In contrast BRCA 1 would refer to the corresponding protein. Just some science pedantery for you.

@Zheeraffa1

6 жыл бұрын

Perhaps more specifically the only known/possible corresponding protein, as one gene might code for multiple proteins through _alternative splicing?_

@Selektionsfaktor

6 жыл бұрын

That is certainly true for most organisms (bacteria, plants etc.). But for some reason it is the convention for primates and some domestic animals to write gene names with all capital letters.

@ulch11

6 жыл бұрын

Selek No, that's just not true. I have read hundreds of scientific studies and wrote a few myself. Human genes are certainly written the way I mentioned in scientific publications.

@MrCleanMachine48

6 жыл бұрын

There is a difference between scientific publications and a KZread Video. Google search BRCA1 - Every link has it in caps.

@derrickmanning5077

6 жыл бұрын

the word is "pedantry" lol

My best bud got married, so I patented every possible genetic combination he had with with his wife. Their children now belong to The Company. Serves 'im right for beating my high score. #DisproportionateRetribution

The ending got dark fast

@mramsterdam1000

6 жыл бұрын

Sikij Karki daaamn dark as hell

@randomdude9135

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't fully understand that ending. Can you explain, please?

@ignaspetrauskas8763

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomdude9135 gene editing in humans might seem unethical, but it also allows preventing terrible genetic diseases like alsheimers or cancer

@randomdude9135

3 жыл бұрын

@@ignaspetrauskas8763 I guess gene editing will end up in countries like China. Democracies will have a hard time justifying that. Especially in US where people don't even trust vaccines so that's that.....

@ignaspetrauskas8763

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomdude9135 I dont deny the theat if gene eiditng im just summarising what wendover says in the end. But jeah, its still scary.

Patent the test not the gene

@solarmaster3405

6 жыл бұрын

agreed, copyrighting people is just wrong.

@dylanjohn4943

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking.. dumb appellate court overturning the decision foh

@r.b.4611

6 жыл бұрын

But then we're in the same place practically. If you own the test you can restrict access in the same way.

@Josh-sv7wj

6 жыл бұрын

But it doesn't necessarily prevent competition. If there's a particular way to test for the gene and it's patented, what's to stop you, who has another test from patenting that test and selling it cheaper. Free market competition. Not possible if someone owns the gene itself. It's the difference between having a patent on the automobile vs. having a patent on a specific mass production technique used in your factories.

@typen3k0

6 жыл бұрын

You are totally Wrong R.B. The technique or technology used for the test needs to be developed separately for each gene you are testing for. Further more each test needs to go through a FDA approval process before it can be used. This process requires intellectual know how to develop. Just knowing "of" the gene means nothing. Since the test and the methods used for the test is not a naturally occurring product, it is there for legal to patent. Where as the gene is naturally occurring so it is not patent-able. For example if I invented a solar panel, I can patent the solar panel since it is not a thing of nature. I however can not patent the sunlight light which it relies on to function. However if your argument is that "one should get a service that other ppl created for free" than you have a case there. -_-!

They should make it patent free. Just like how the creator of the polio vaccine didn't patent his creation to benefit humanity

@forthelasttime4005

6 жыл бұрын

Well that's because it was funded under president Roosevelt, so really they couldn't patent it even if they wanted to, that is, unless Roosevelt wished otherwise, which was certainly not gonna happen. Other vaccines have been patented, they're just so widespread that their patent "effect" is almost negligible. Well, at least to the public eye and not the laboratories behind the scene, anyway

@forthelasttime4005

6 жыл бұрын

Also, your bitch ass is everywhere

@JustinY.

6 жыл бұрын

Pretentious Altruist Yeah I am in many places

@jasertio

6 жыл бұрын

Pretentious Altruist he uses like bots

@andymadden8183

5 жыл бұрын

And just like Volvo and the seatbelt.

the man who first started fire should have patented it!

@hamzabeg6882

3 жыл бұрын

You are a bold one

@richieofallatrades

3 жыл бұрын

Would've run out after a while tho...

Clearly patents like this aren’t actually driving innovation, because once a discovery is made, nobody else is allowed to further develop it.

@manus9438

6 жыл бұрын

He meant that people wont take risks in the future to research stuff like this if they see that they cant make a lot of money from it or get there expenses back in because they wont have a monopoly on it.

@mohit_panjwani

3 жыл бұрын

And then what? You've to make further inventions too, ryt? Why would they do that?

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@v44n7

6 жыл бұрын

It is going to happend probably, we got a huge century upon us

A big problem with patents on staple food crops is that it gives a small number of big companies who are driven soley by a desire for profit significan controll on world food production. I think that alone makes the Monsanto-busines model a bad idea. What if a third of all staple food in the world is grown with seeds from Monsanto and Monsanto then screws up and the next harvest fails? Famine. How could a company like Monsanto screw up? Well, if you take standardised seeds from one source and can't reuse a part of the harvest as next year's seed, you have little genetic diversity. And large ammounts of geneticaly identical organisms are very vulnerable to diseases. So, what if Monsanto doesn't catch a disease that will kill all it's corn in time? Didn't something like this allready happen to bananas? Do we realy want it to happen to staple food?

@MateusAntonioBittencourt

6 жыл бұрын

That has nothing to do with Monsanto, or any big company. Bananas, Apple, grapes, and most fruits are all clones. The same fruit being planted thousands of times. Try using the seed of a fruit you bought and it will taste and look different, yet all apples (from a certain variety) you by will look and taste the same. This is what happens... it happened before Monsanto and will continue to happen. It's economics. When you find a plant that is perfect you grow, produces a lot and sells well... you will want to only produce that plant. This has nothing to do with patents. But as for you concern about a disease getting into Monsanto's crops. It's actually less likely than with non Monsanto, all natural, crops. Since Non GMO crops, the farmer uses a portion of the seeds harvested to plant again... the genetic variation is almost none... se a disease spreading is more likely than with an GMO, which changes every year... since farmers have to buy new seeds. This makes it a single decease being able to wipe a entire crop almost impossible.

Most research and development is funded by national funds... meaning that its paid for by the people most times. So something the people pay to develop, is then used by companies to stifle those very people out of their money so they can gain. Rather than just provide a useful product to the people who need it. Because they already paid for it.

@darrenparis8314

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly! I don't like that this video poses genetic research as something that must be funded or encouraged by patents and the selling of their contributions as products. As someone who is going into genetic research, I can assure you that there is no shortage of people or passion going into genetic research.

@jalioswilinghart

6 жыл бұрын

But Darren, how could you ever think ground breaking research is enough in itself? Wouldn't you like to price gouge the people who can benefit form what you and your colleagues discover for no reason?... Its almost like you're human or something. Going for your passion, while getting the warm fuzzies over what you do, might do wonders for people... because you care. Because you're human. Not a profit bot.

Gattaca anyone

@gocubs1815

6 жыл бұрын

Roger DeVeaux or Orphan Black?

@qwertzu239

6 жыл бұрын

we just watched that film today in school in biology😂

@Locutus

6 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. And Star Trek as well - Eugenics War.

@palakaman

6 жыл бұрын

Looking for this comment.

@feynstein1004

6 жыл бұрын

I love that movie.

Genetically modify humans is the next level of Pay-to-Win. This will provide buyers the sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking new genes.

@WJames-nq2df

6 жыл бұрын

Aiman 😂

@Graymenn

4 жыл бұрын

there will be random gene loot boxes

@angelenriquechavezponce1629

2 жыл бұрын

This would literally justify being racist, cause now there's a reason to blame someone for not being equipped with the right genes, if you're susceptible to cancer that's the fault of your father's, they should have worked harder to buy you the best of the best. Knowing how business do their thing right now, we will unleash a dystopian world were having the good genes will be expensive as f, effectively segregating the society into 2 groups the rich and healthy and the poor and disposable people.

@MlokLik

2 жыл бұрын

@@angelenriquechavezponce1629 Nothing would ever justify racism

I'm rather fortunate. I don't need to know whether or not I'm predisposed to have cancer. The comment section already gave it to me.

Who doesn't want to live in a future where you can sue someone for having genes that you found out existed

That's if the information your quoting is correct, companies like to cry poor but keep in mind! The bulk of research is actually paid for by public taxes. The private companies consider PR & commercials to be research (it is not). Basically they are getting a free ride in regards to research! (a free lunch)

@davidmouser596

6 жыл бұрын

Hmm I misspelled 'you're as 'your' my bad. Also some one replied why should we believe you on the bell icon (not sure why it isn't appearing here in the comments?) GOOD be suspicious and investigate more than one source. Just because its online doesn't make it true;)

@Tiri_the_takehe

6 жыл бұрын

As someone who is an actual geneticist, funding is haaaard. Grant applications are hard. Even private companies have to sink a lot of money into R&D. But maybe what you're saying is true for america? It seems unlikely though.

ornot

@canthole8050

6 жыл бұрын

orye

@JarrettWilliams99

6 жыл бұрын

Or naught

@belligerenttheo2359

6 жыл бұрын

Our Nout

@YTwatchOne

6 жыл бұрын

ortistic ornot

@Astuar

6 жыл бұрын

Ornat

WHERE ARE MY AIRPLANES

I’m reminded of Murrow who crafted the Polio vaccine. When asked why he didn’t patent it and could have made tons of money, he said there is no patent... he said... *”Could you patent the sun?”* Great guy.

Myriad was Ajit pai's inspiration

@inferno7181

6 жыл бұрын

A guy deregulating the internet was inspired by a monopoly trying to get complete control of a human genome? Are you stupid?

dont need a notification if you're on KZread 24/7

@FoxBoi69

6 жыл бұрын

same

@kylehudsons

6 жыл бұрын

same

"what should be patentable" The process of genetic screening, not the gene you are trying to detect.

I feel like the logical conclusion is that the process of human genetic modification can be patented, but the products of that process -- i.e.: the human beings resulting from it -- can't. No one wants their kid to come out malformed, but if preventing that means they're legally owned by the company who owns the fix-a-baby machine, I don't see lots of people sitting by and letting it happen.

The problem with the Monsanto seeds is that some farmers DON'T buy the seeds: their crops get contaminated because, well, plants reproduce. At that point, the seeds are, according to Monsanto, their property, and the farmer is forced to buy from them or else lawsuit.

@piprod01

6 жыл бұрын

That's a myth bro

@mintyw8830

6 жыл бұрын

piprod01 Your a dumbass

Patent the device that makes the check/scan/whatever, not the discovery

This better have something about airplanes in it.

@NachDeaDSilenT

6 жыл бұрын

Genetically modified airplanes

@jeebus6263

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm@@NachDeaDSilenT, looks like a reference tho i don't get it...

The gene script looks like someone fell asleep on the keyboard

I think patents can be quite useful to fuel research, but the way patents currently work is the main problem. Right now patents are given for X amount of time, thereby forcing a company to make as much profit within that time in order to not be at loss due to the research costs. If, instead, a patent would last until a certain amount of profit was made (e.g. all costs covered + 10% of the costs in profit) then companies don't need to make their medicine/inventions more expensive in order to profit from it, if they keep lower prices, their patent will last longer, and in the end they'll have been able to make the same amount of profit regardless of how fast they did it.

@chillinchum

6 жыл бұрын

Nienke Fleur Luchtmeijer that sounds like an interesting idea. ...but I'm concerned about money laundering then. "How look, we haven't made enough profit to lose our patent." Meanwhile in HQ:"Now, how long can we keep that lie going?" You might not even need to launder the money if your good enough about lying about how much you made.

@nienke7713

6 жыл бұрын

chillin chum yes, it would require quite a bit of transparency, but I think regulations to make (farmaceutical) companies more transparant should be made anyways. Also, even if they'd manage to do so, it would still mean that they aren't incentivized to ramp up the prices in order to make enough profit

That ending just made me rethink everything that has every existed, ever.

That shouldn't be legal. It's what's wrong with American capitalism

@aantony2001

6 жыл бұрын

A lot. About the seeds, original ones have started to go extinct, there is the possibility that the source of all food coming from agriculture will be controlled by companies. You would not be allowed to harvest seeds from crops (or the crops wouldn't produce seeds). Imagine communities in developing countries not being allowed to farm without paying a USA company.

@maddin95k1

6 жыл бұрын

More like what's wrong with the government. Patents are a deal between the government and a company. If there was only voluntary exchange between people (capitalism) there most likely wouldn't be any patents.

@briandiehl9257

6 жыл бұрын

This isn't just America, just the biggest companies are almost always in America.

@russianrobot25vzz1

6 жыл бұрын

If the companies controlling the seeds and other products didn't have a selfish mindset, the pros would outway the cons.

@dollgen

6 жыл бұрын

+aantony2001 Are you sure seeds are going extinct? I gotta believe the seed bank in Svalbard still has some of everything.

Oh that's fine, just let the corporations own my DNA, what could possibly go wrong.

@nicholasalvares3370

5 жыл бұрын

you scares me

That's why research should be entirely public funded. Paid by everyone for everyone. That's the only way we could focus research on what's needed and not only on what makes money.

@CACubed

6 жыл бұрын

1905parth That’s socialist.

@cyrusaugustus4640

6 жыл бұрын

That could be slower. How motivated would you be if you knew that regardless of the time you took to get your results, you get paid the same salary from public funds?

@1905parth

6 жыл бұрын

It doesn't mean there shouldn't be any pressure put on researchers. Just that instead of being paid by a private company they would be by the state. It would allow different research teams to work together to get the best answer instead of working against each other. Anyway i do agree that there might be some flaws with that system, but i do think that most researchers (well at least in Europe where i live) are doing this job because they are aiming for the greater good and not only for money.

@1905parth

6 жыл бұрын

CACubed yes it is

@1905parth

6 жыл бұрын

Wolves bandwagon fan since 1998 well what he was highlighting is that some people might not have that much ambition, and would be satisfied with their job and salary knowing that they could do the minimum about it.

Certainly seems like patenting genes is a bad idea to me.

@Dub636

6 жыл бұрын

Tundra14 well then expect delayed medical advancements including things such as cures for cancer

@idontreallylikeyoutube

6 жыл бұрын

I'm ok with that, as long as everyone will have access to it when it's ready, not just the elite few.

@graywolf182

6 жыл бұрын

Patenting is a bad idea period. Lots of important discoveries were made by the public sector and specific state initiatives. And even with patented technologies, most of the benefits they brought to humanity didn't materialize until the patent expired and they became affordable. Science and innovation would certainly not disappear if you abolished intellectual property.

@Dub636

6 жыл бұрын

Sobaken seriously? All I can do is laugh at this statement. Discovery and innovation happening at the state level? You’re joking right? I’ve never heard someone claim that the state can innovate and discover better than private free market enterprise

@graywolf182

6 жыл бұрын

+Jordan Most research that produced the technologies that we all use was done by scientists working in the academia, publicly funded universities and labs. Just look up any famous inventor and see if they worked for an institution solely interested in science or for a patent-grabbing corporation. X-rays, penicillin, vaccines, insulin, all done by universities not for profit. Even the breast cancer diagnosis from the video was developed by the University of Utah, before the some of their staff left and started a private company.

That moment when your birth is copyright infringement

''If I should include airplanes in this video OR NOT?"

The ending of this video was really powerful. Great job on yet another fascinating video

I just want to say Shovel was a ground breaking invention

@r.r.n8998

6 жыл бұрын

Tell Me This so was the pickaxe

@amypaty2571

6 жыл бұрын

so punnyy

@suwinkhamchaiwong8382

6 жыл бұрын

xD

@DrTssha

6 жыл бұрын

Booo! :p

@darkjanggo

6 жыл бұрын

shovel was the real star of A Cure for Wellness

I love the ending question, if it is ethical to NOT modify our children if we can make them better (and healthier) in any way. I enjoyed the overall feeling of the movie, because I think to many people just say NO when people say genetic modification, without thinking about the ups of it.

@tonyjames4023

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly, when you present an actual benefit to genetic modification it makes perfect sense to do it.

@charlesskaret1274

6 жыл бұрын

You're playing a dangerous game

@saulw6270

6 жыл бұрын

Martin Dlužanský pros are healthier smarter more beautiful children or ppl. Cons possibly creating a race of ppl that could feel superior n overthrow the non superior. Or do to calitalism only the rich could have the best kids and any non designer kids could b seen as inferior for life! Its a hard choice but tbh there are already designer babies in some super wealthy homes

@felixw19

6 жыл бұрын

However companies should NOT be able to have patents on human beings!

@adventureguy5088

6 жыл бұрын

triigga s I agree, it’ll definitely create an even bigger gap between developing and developed countries, and also create a big gap inside developed countries. People who have money to genetically modify their kids to be smart will be much more favored than poor families who couldn’t. Therefore richer families will become richer and poorer become poorer.

The question of designer-babies is unrelated to the question of patented genes. You can have either one without the other, or both, or none.

You are a research and presentation extraordinaire. Thanks for putting this video together

"GCP Grey" and"this place"yesterday and "Wendover" today wow... what a week !!!

If they patent the method of testing this specific gene: fine, make money from the procedure, you earned it. Patenting the gene itself? You got to be kidding... FO

By far the best Wendover video to date. Really informative and insightful.

I love to see your videos getting better and better!

I hope you hit 1mil before 2018!

Is there an anit-skillshare, so I can degrade as a person? Need a link ASAP ;/

great video,as always. I really like the quality on your channel !

This comment section is full of wise comments, i can't believe I'm in 2017

@GeorgeVCohea-dw7ou

6 жыл бұрын

Just wait a couple of weeks to let it sink in, only then will you realise that it's not 2017.

@racecxr

6 жыл бұрын

PowerTrain if the creator is intelligent then the comments are intelligent,it works in almost any example you can think of

@pandepanda31

6 жыл бұрын

Welcome to 2018 mate

@nntflow7058

6 жыл бұрын

They just copy paste "wise comments" from 1781.

@DhirC35

3 жыл бұрын

2021 is here

Where are the planes? We need more planes!

You could change patent laws, so instead of giving the patenters a complete monopoly you could force producers and salesmen to give 50% of their gains to the patenter (unless a company has been given exclusive right to the patented entity) for the first year after the patent was made, then 25% for 4 years after that, then 12,5% for 5 years after that, then 10% 5 years, then 5% 10 years, 2,5% for 25 years and then, 50 years after the patent was made the subsidies would end. Or something.

@r.b.4611

6 жыл бұрын

Fuck yes.

@robbiedozier2840

6 жыл бұрын

That’s similar to how it works already. Other companies aren’t completely forbidden from using patents, they’re just required to pay a royalty.

@typen3k0

6 жыл бұрын

Its called a Royalty stupid!

@Nick-ce6lt

6 жыл бұрын

No it's called a compulsory licence "stupid". Also the way Axel described it does require a change in IP laws.

@redsquirrel3893

6 жыл бұрын

Having a Royalty sounds like a very good idea but who sets the amount ie 1% of sales price might not make it worth the investment unless its something that would be very high volume but 200% would start to make it prohibitively expensive for consumers like how many pharmaceuticals become so expensive. Also the term should be limited but again for how long?

A great, thought-provoking video, as always. Keep it up!

Love your videos recently hit a new level of professionalism

So no planes?

@aram00001

6 жыл бұрын

lol

Oh man this channel is so underrated

This is one of the best videos I've seen in your channel, congrats. :)

Great video, a lot of interesting points I have never thought of. Keep'em comin!

Patents should be limited (which they are) to allow for an incentive to innovate and profit off their R&D of products which we voluntarily consume. But there are upsides and downsides to every government program which we must take into consideration

There are no bad videos on this channel

Your best video, in my opinion, in a while! Absolutely great :)

I really love your content, and I can see that you put a lot of heart and work into it, keep up the good work I really appreciate it.

This video was sponsored by Myriad Genetics.

This is why we need money for fundamental research

Hands down one of your best videos

Great video, your best so far

BRB, gotta polish my master's shoes. His ancestors paid for the INTelligence+ By Monsanto upgrade, and mine didn't.

You don't need to patent a gene sequence to recoup research cost: you can patent the testing/detection/insertion technique.

this video went deep. especially the "or not" part got in me man. good job

Leaving subject matter preferences aside, for many reasons, this is the best video you have made.

Wendover Productions video? My day is saved.

The first point that is made in the video that is the basis of the argument is that no one would want to research new discoveries if there was no financial incentive. This is not true for the vast majority of scientists. People dont go into those branches of research to make money, but to do good for people.

This was highly interesting! Make more please.

Mind blowing man. Great job.

What if I get a genetically altered baby. Would it be allowed to have babies or will the company sue my child for "selling" their genetic altered gene by put into it another person and creating a new baby with altered genes?

@Newjorciks

6 жыл бұрын

Allowing your baby to reproduce is a DLC you have to buy extra. Or you can get the "Generation pass", which includes all the DLCs.

@souptime8635

6 жыл бұрын

If you want to let the baby live you would have to pay for some extra microtransactions

@dollgen

6 жыл бұрын

At least in America that would be strictly against the constitution and would result in a hell of an uproar from a lot of people. I highly doubt anything like that would happen.

@carolederent7638

Жыл бұрын

@@dollgen The Supreme Court has very different interpretations on what is and what isn't constitutional

"Should they be rewarded for their years of work" Yes that's why they got substantial grants and funding to find it oh and their jobs.

@rodentlover100

6 жыл бұрын

Aren't those more so to actually create the test rather than profit from it? The point in this case is for them to actually be able to do something with their creation once it's finished. I don't think genes should be patented, personally, but it's definitely a dilemma.

@Borjigin.

6 жыл бұрын

And public recognition and professional advancement.

@martinkunev9911

3 жыл бұрын

@@rodentlover100 I don't see where is the dilemma. If the government funds building a road, the construction company builds it for the government so it cannot charge people for using it. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Thanks for the video!

I learn so much from this channel

"The real question is not if it's ethical to allow patented human gene editing, it's if it's ethical to not." Eeeeeh, I don't know man. Both sides are pretty important but to me one prevails, and it's the first one.

@MichaelSteeves

6 жыл бұрын

Designer babies for all!

@dollgen

6 жыл бұрын

To not pursue that technology is to doom millions if not billions of people to painful, horrendous deaths. I don't really see a clear argument that the unknown result of pursuing it is worse.

I'm going to edit my genes to be fast as fuck boi

Well done Wendover! Best upload yet

That ending hit hard, great video.

If Myriad genetics just patented the tests they were using, there wouldn't have been a problem

I don't like this video, it makes me fear the future and forces me to think about very difficult problems that take me out of my comfort zone. Thank you for that

Man I just love this channel

This was an amazing video. Gave me goosebumps at the end!

Genetic modification of humans should be done universally, without a price tag. This would ensure we would stay a coherent species, that evolves together, becoming better as a whole, instead of a genetically created upper, middle and lower class. If done otherwise, two things could happen, a class divide caused by some people being able to afford genetic modification with some unable too. Another thing which could happen, is that we split into different, increasingly different species, leading to some species being unable to survive with other human species...

@harvarduniversity4349

6 жыл бұрын

Fucking communist

So close to a million!

Imagine a patented apple... There already are several patented apple varieties, and MANY trademarked ones. They got the patents because they DID make that variety.

@Graymenn

4 жыл бұрын

if I take a hammer and a screwdriver and tape them together, did I make a new tool?

This is a really good overview of lifescience patenting. I am a patent attorney and I was afraid this would be a screed in one direction or another, but I found it very informative and fairly described. Great work. I love getting my "New Wendover Productions Video" notification. :)

Is there not a collective trust of mankind that could keep these patents or ideas? Pay a bit to the discoverers and then anyone could use it

Alright, time to find out what airplanes have to do with gene patenting

Wow!! Thank you for such a great video.

God I LOVE this channel. Always delivers good videos

No airplanes?

well maybe myriad shouldnt be able to have a monopoly on the patent, maybe you could make a law that states that everyone can use the discovery but they have to pay a certain percentage of their revenue to the discoverer, or that they have to share the patent if they make an offer of so and so many percents of the costs to discover it

I really appreciated your nuanced discussion on this issue. Great video.

Great job on this one.