The Gap Between Boxing And Muay Thai - Boxpan vs Victor The Dragon
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Boxpan, our favorite boxer insists on only punches against Victor The Dragon, a Muay Thai and Kungfu hybrid kickboxer. I would say Victor's striking is 80% Muay Thai and 20% other styles, hence why I still call him Muay Thai primarily. With all this being said, we really see what happens when you kick a boxer because Max Pan is a semi-pro boxer, and Victor is a former pro mma fighter. These two represent their styles well, and we get a good case study in whether punching and footwork is enough to take on someone using eight limbs on you. Watch for an exciting exchange of styles and kickboxing vs boxing. Leave your comment and let us know what lessons you learned!
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Never limit the number of weapons you can bring to a fight.
@danielburgess7785
Жыл бұрын
@SilverSurfer I'm just a simple Marine Corps barbarian.
@Moowe291
Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought. I understand showing some expertise in your specific martial art, but the reality is it's not remotely fair in several ways. He can get kicked, he can't kick him because he doesn't do it, he can get knee'd, he can't use knees because he doesn't do it, he can get spaced because of the kick range, he CAN'T hit his legs or lower body in any way, and he's not good enough to fight off a kickboxer. The only way you can do it, is to have a full on fight, and he can try to outtime him and get a knockout. But sparring? You're going to slowly watch him exploit every possible advantage he has, which is what we watched just now.
@yourworstnightmare1488
Жыл бұрын
@SilverSurfer the father of coke clowns
@PierceSunderseatsRAMEN
Жыл бұрын
Like that sick lighting? Lol
@hoodlum4511
Жыл бұрын
Instructions unclear, I shot my sparring partner with my .45
This was a very light contact technique focused spar. Even so it looked like by the end of the session the boxer was really feeling it in his legs. Because he's got noodle legs it would only have taken literally a few kicks to the leg and it would have been game over, no matter how clear your head is, when your leg stops working the fight is over
@brandonquinte9348
Жыл бұрын
The boxer actually has pretty good legs, just not conditioned.
@metalface_villain
6 ай бұрын
i'd say 1 or 2 naked kicks with good power would have taken him out. the shinguards, at least in my experience make the leg kicks not hurt that much but once u get that shin to dig in there, then it's another story.
Victor is fun to watch. Would be interested in seeing more of him, especially the Baji techniques and concepts. Box Pan has to learn some form of kickboxing if he wants to compete against kickers. I think Boxers may find Savate to be an interesting art to combine, because it does tend to be more fencing-like and they do adopt a more bladed stance.
@dr.dylansgame5583
Жыл бұрын
True and heck if they really are that much of a purest they could learn Dirty Boxing Techniques you see employed when a Boxer gets in a Real Fist Fight. I'm never opposed to a good Foot Stomp or Elbow Following a Big Last Punch in a combination.
Muay Thai is stiff but has kicks Boxing is limited but has more movement. Combine both and problem solved
@ricardomoreno9930
Жыл бұрын
Depends a lot of the fighter.
@AwakenZen
Жыл бұрын
@@ricardomoreno9930 True
@russm4391
Жыл бұрын
If you see boxers like bivol who are really good at distance management and closing the distance, they would be a problem for muay Thai fighters. Thai fighters are too stiff and don’t have great footwork.
@AwakenZen
Жыл бұрын
@@russm4391 Thank you that's exactly my point
@emilianosintarias7337
Жыл бұрын
styles are kind of an illusion, there are just rule sets. Boxing allowed weapons, headbutts, take downs, and elbows at one time
I remember sparring with a boxer and i kept kicking him in the front leg lightly and afterwards he told me if it were a real fight he would have stopped me on the jabs he hit and I only land on his legs so its not a biggie. I was too polite to tell him he wouldn't be walking right with how many kicks I landed if they had power. Some people dont understand how crippling powerful leg kicks are.
@unc1221
Жыл бұрын
One jab from me, you’ll be begging for mercy. F your legs. 😂
@MrTheil
Жыл бұрын
@@unc1221 Sure, Mr. Tough Guy.
@unc1221
Жыл бұрын
@@MrTheil you Muai Thai mfers annoying af. Like it’s really hard to learn. 😂
@user-dc9oq2pr6v
10 ай бұрын
hes right tho, in an actual fight, he'd jab you to the ground
@MrTheil
8 ай бұрын
@@user-dc9oq2pr6v Let’s see that jab land when he’s busy being kicked in the legs
He didn't trip over himself Victor kicked his knee out beautifully. I think eating a leg kick depends on your legs and how much punishment they can take. I usually don't sweat it but Vic is a big 'ol boi and the way he hit the knee like that looks pretty scary how accurate and well timed it was.
What I'm seeing is that thigh kicks will fell the tree. However, if the boxer can work angles and utilize the uppercut and body shots, it can pay off. Would I trade a thigh kick to deliver a good body shot... maybe the first one. After that, I'm limping...
@dallasdominguez2224
5 ай бұрын
Yup can attest to this. I used to purposefully not use kicks for fun in sparring and I'd spam a peekaboo body shot until Eventually I baited the opponent into trying to kick or knee me, grab the leg about midway through their kick, lift up, sweep out their other leg. Boom.
Awesome vid Jerry, definitely prefer these kinda fights over kung fu dudes just making a fool of themselves.
@FightCommentary
Жыл бұрын
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@OnenessAwareness
Жыл бұрын
@@FightCommentary can we get some fight breakdowns of your sparring?
Another Great Video Bro. If I could give the "Boxpan" guy any advice, (and I know everyone can talk crap but he's the one who's doing it) it's don't go back to the line. He seemed to throw a combo then go right back in front of the MT Guy. Ya HAVE TO go close to that lead side Lomachenko style. That'll take away the right leg kick and lessen the force of the lead leg. Best of luck in his fight and ALL RESPECT for testing himself.
i do boxing but occasionally spar muay thai guys. When fighting guys with kicks, you must adapt a narrower stance. if not, you're gonna get low kicked very easily. The narrower stance makes your leg a farther target and gives you a better chance to evade the low kicks (or check them). It's definitely recommended to at least learn how to defend against kicks tho (ie. checking) which I've done. Maybe I'll post my boxing vs muay thai spars in my channel.
@FightCommentary
Жыл бұрын
Please share when you do!
@pr0jectSkyneT
Жыл бұрын
@@FightCommentary will let you know
@TheMatrixofMeaning
Жыл бұрын
Karate uses a bladed stance though and they don't check kicks. They just use footwork to evade attacks or disrupt the attack with a preemptive attack
@razielduckett3168
Жыл бұрын
@@pr0jectSkyneTwould love to see those spar videos too
@pr0jectSkyneT
Жыл бұрын
@@razielduckett3168 me and my friend Henrik were supposedly Muay Thai sparring last Saturday but he didn't come in. We usually reserve Saturdays just for sparring . I sparred regular boxing guys that day since we rarely get Muay Thai guys at our gym. I'm hoping he comes in next Saturday cuz I know he leaving for Norway in a couple of weeks.
I'd be interested to see what a boxing (punching) purist could achieve with some cross training. I've always felt that the reason kickboxers usually beat boxers is not just because boxers don't kick, but because they never train against kicks. My pet theory is that someone could probably become kickboxing champion without throwing a single kick, once they trained properly.
@goodboi1725
Жыл бұрын
imagine prime mike tyson with some crosstraining lmao, check some kicks, enter punching range, obliterate
@Agbahizzal
Жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Emil-wj7wr
Жыл бұрын
There actually was actually a time in the history of kickboxing where boxers transitioning to kickboxing did so well that they had to put a minimum number of kicks that you had to do in a match. What a lot of the boxers did was just get those kicks out of the way and then transition into pure boxing, smothering the kickboxer into the corner and box with them in the pocket, completely shutting down the kicks and taking over with their boxing. It was only when muay thai became popularized in the western world and leg kicks started being used in kickboxing that the boxers turned kickboxer started getting destroyed easily.
@elenchus
Жыл бұрын
it’s not unheard of…the Diaz brothers are boxing/jiujitsu specialists and have spoken directly about applying boxing vs kickboxing (in an MMA context). Despite a very high reliance on boxing for their striking, they were, in their prime, some of the most dangerous strikers in MMA.
@QuickStrikes84
Жыл бұрын
good boi- He'd have to contend with knees and elbows still. The clinch would nullify some of the inside fighting and the danger of kicks would remove a lot of Tyson's very low head movement. Someone would have figured him out. The closest person would probably be Mike Zambidis. Although he does use kicks too. It would be foolish to just punch and never kick, limits the points/damage that can win you the fight.
Damn if Victor put more power the boxer would have zero chance. Lucky he’s just tagging him because boxer was really exposed. Good in both of them for checking their skills. These fighters look like they’re in impeccable shape. 👍
That's some smooth moves from the boxer...I'm a fan...
If it had been full power and un-padded shins , I don't think Boxpan could have taken more than 3-4 leg kicks before his movement is compromised . You have no choice but to learn some kind of leg check if you want to get out of the first round , that's just reality . I wish him the best of luck though.
@Timma6111
3 ай бұрын
If the boxer had unpadded fists this fight would have been over in the first
@anthonygarcia1868
Ай бұрын
@@Timma6111 if the muay thai fighter actually kicked, elbowed and knee'd and punched unpadded and with intent of violence the boxer would be on the floor crying so what's your point? Punching unpadded is so much different then unpadded. Different angles different defensive styles different pace. You don't understand fighting if that's your point. ppl never been in a fight talking about fighting. Lame.
I find boxers who are primarily rangy amateur style fighters who work the jab and cross to have problems against kickboxers. Pressure fighters and brawlers who constantly crowd the kickboxers and deliver hard hooks and uppercuts are much harder to deal with. Fighting on the outside plays into a kickboxer’s game. But imagine a Tua, Tyson or Mugabi type fighter. A nightmare to deal with on the inside and most kickboxers don’t have to footwork, mobility and defense to deal with it, which only leaves them the clinch.
@elenchus
Жыл бұрын
I think the clinch, as you mentioned, is the answer to the scenario you’ve proposed. You can really avoid one part of MT’s game using the strategies you’ve mentioned, I agree, but so far as I can tell you’re just stepping into another.
@obiwanquixote8423
Жыл бұрын
@@elenchus At some point it comes down to the fighter. Referencing Gabriel Varga’s recent video, boxers are better punchers than KBers and recently high level KBers have been coming out second best due to flaws in their game. The clinch can work, but now you’re putting 1/3 of your training (kicking, punching, clinching) against 100% of the other guy’s.
@elenchus
Жыл бұрын
@@obiwanquixote8423 When the opponent has no answer for it, that's often enough. If you can be an expert while your opponent is a beginner in that one area, and control the fight there (which you probably can against a pressure fighter re: the clinch), you have a pretty powerful advantage. Because Muay Thai developed with Western Boxing as a component and frequent opponent for over a century now, it has already evolved to deal with many of the threats boxing has to offer and adopted many of its techniques, but that cross-pollination isn't bilateral. Still, fundamentally I agree with you. A sufficiently good boxer could surprise a competent Muay Thai fighter, but it'd be the exception as opposed to the norm. Even within Muay Thai, boxing accounts for the highest percentage of KOs, not kicks, knees, or elbows.
@obiwanquixote8423
Жыл бұрын
@@elenchus it’s an interesting discussion. Gabriel Varga has a good video about why so many of the high level Thai MT fighters are getting KO’d and it basically boils down to a weakness in their boxing. I don’t think it’s a style v style thing. Comes down to execution of game plan and fighter characteristics
@elenchus
Жыл бұрын
@@obiwanquixote8423 I’ll definitely check that out, sounds very interesting.
That gym looks straight out of Street Fighter 6
Traditional boxing vs tradional mua thai favors the thai fighter 100%. If a boxer can adapt kick defense and pressure more then i think boxing effectiveness against thai fighting greatly increases. U have to get inside and relentlessly stay inside
Kick a boxer...though muay thai guy is standing a little close, he could stifle boxer's punches even better if he utilized more straight kicks. Like steeps and kneestomps; round kicks have you in punching range
props for the muay thai fighter for being so controlled, helps the other guy learn without hurting him too much
The boxing dude seems pretty green. He pulls his punches, you can see how short they are, especially his right cross. His guard is very open, he holds his head high etc. All the hallmarks of a beginner. I get that this is light sparring, but you're just not going to get anywhere with this kind of performance.
@TheMatrixofMeaning
Жыл бұрын
Yes, the boxer has a very traditional amateur cookie cutter style which shows he's not experienced fighting different styles of fighters with different guards, strengths, and weaknesses. In the beginning the boxer was the far superior fighter and could have ended the fight if it weren't just sparring, but was hesitating after every landed punch and staying in the pocket too long afterwards. Over time he absorbed too many leg kicks and allowed his opponent to make adjustments and learn his weaknesses. Once his legs started to weaken he no longer had the mobility to keep up the same level of offense and his defense was already non existent. This shows clearly that pure boxing at high level would completely dominate a skilled kickboxer provided the advantage of footwork and angles was utilized with enough aggression. But it also shows that front kicks, leg kicks, knees, and elbows, will dominate in any fight against a boxer that lasts more than one or two rounds. Make no mistakes, any pure boxer that doesn't have experience with fighting against kickboxing will be destroyed unless he manages to swarm the kickboxer with volume and power, getting in and out at angles and checking those leg kicks. You don't necessarily have to throw any kicks to beat a kicker, but you definitely need to have a lot of experience getting kicked.
Albert Kraus versus Buakaw in k1 world max is one of the best examples of someone more focused on hands but is able to defend against kicks. Kraus can kick too but he was probably not good enough to avoid bring swept by Buakaw and I think that's why Kraus didn't kick against Buakaw.
@anthonygarcia1868
Ай бұрын
who won?
@Speedofdark339
21 күн бұрын
@anthonygarcia1868 they fought 4 times with both going 2-2 against each other.
Hey Bro, While I was loving this content I came across and Idea of, if you color corrected the footage more It would LOOK INSANE. atm it looks like theres a lazy haze over everything. If you dont have the time to fix it. I am learning maybe i could help. Even if you dont choose me! I think removing that hazyness will REALLY upgrade your content and gain more subz. Great vid!
@FightCommentary
Жыл бұрын
Sure thing. Tell more on IG if you have it. Find me there. Same handle!
Lots of assertions in the comments that a "real" boxer would destroy any MT fighter. This ignores the fact that many high level MT fighters have gone on to have very successful boxing careers. It's a bit silly to think that if the likes of Samart and Veeraphol were allowed to use kicks, knees, sweeps, throws, and elbows in their boxing matches then their opponents would've somehow done better.
@dr_logical_b3a5t63
Жыл бұрын
Yea those muay Thai fighters are not just muay Thai fighters...they are boxers too lol. They know both arts. Samart even derived his style from Ali and sugar Ray and went on to have a 21 - 2 boxing career. He trained in boxing aswell, even his muay Thai style was a hybrid style of boxing and mauy Thai.
@dr_logical_b3a5t63
Жыл бұрын
Plus in this video the boxer is very small compared to MT
@Lorena-ku5xl
9 ай бұрын
@@dr_logical_b3a5t63 over 60 muay thai fighters transitioned to boxing and became World boxing champs and 2 became olimpic gold medalist . How many western boxers transitioned to muay thai? Exactly, 0 hahahah muay thai is a better striking art. And all these thai fighters proved that muay thai punches can even work in boxing also some of them didnt step a foot in a boxing gym before winning their first title.
@dr_logical_b3a5t63
9 ай бұрын
@@Lorena-ku5xl 0 because they don't need it lol...there's no money on transitioning to another sport so why would they even bother ? MT on the other hand needs money so ofc they'll transition and you're acting as if those muay Thai champions didn't dedicate themselves to training Boxing before going to boxing they didn't just jump from muay Thai to boxing or they would've gotten lit the fk up 😂🤦...from Samart payakaroon to saenchai they all had pure pro world boxing coaches before debuts...not to mention samart was an Ali fan and adopted footwork from his style furthermore goofball educate yourself cuz currently MMA produced more champions coming from a background of boxing than mauy Thai...literal statistics...there's never been a real boxer in his prime bothered to compete in muay Thai because they simply don't need to so your point in irrelevant "hahaha" The reason why MT comes to boxing is because their country and sport don't have enough money... except samart because he genuinely had interest in pro boxing
@dr_logical_b3a5t63
9 ай бұрын
@@Lorena-ku5xl where did these muay Thai fighters prove muay Thai punches work in boxing ?? Lol they had pro boxing Trainers training them don't be dull 😂🤦 It would be useless in a pure boxing ring...they would get smashed 😭
Purist boxer doesn't really stand a chance against muay thai. Victor was being very gentle and i don't mean by how hard he kicked. Victor didn't teep often, which is great when boxers push into you for their combos. Victor didn't lean back and hook his lead foot behind the boxer's lead leg when he was advancing with punches. This move is very common for muay thai fighters to trip fighters with a wide stance or round kicks to the head. It basically makes you do the splits. LoL There are so many techniques from muay thai that were not deployed against the boxer.
@StarlightAnya-_-
Жыл бұрын
Well this is not competitive fight that's literally spar fight. So no one being gentle or something you mean.(also not to mention boxer has weight disadvantage. But forget it this not serious fight.) Muay Thai is stiff movement & relying most of his kick. if the boxer on this video are not flat footed & use his footwork, MT kick are will not be very effective. I give you an example of what is footwork do in the fight. Watch lomachenko or any boxer who use footwork moslty. You can see it how does it work on stiff movement. (Btw There's have so many style of boxing & in this video you see are basic skills of boxing.)
@RedgraveGilver
5 ай бұрын
@@StarlightAnya-_- Pure cope. All a Muay Thai fighter needs to do is clinch a boxer then its over.
@StarlightAnya-_-
5 ай бұрын
@@RedgraveGilver this comment is very late but I try to answer your opinion. First You can't clinch in fight if your opponent is very fast & not 1 dimensional or we called "flat footed" (like I said before try to watch footwork in boxing highlights.) "also your logic is contradict in actual fight. (Imagine how deadly a round house kick from Muay Thai you can't waste that opportunity to beat a non kicker. So clinching is a mistake plan of fighting a boxer if you are a Muay Thai user.) As a fan of both style, I think it's depends on who's person uses that technique to knows who's gonna win.
@RedgraveGilver
5 ай бұрын
@@StarlightAnya-_- >First You can't clinch in fight if your opponent is very fast & not 1 dimensional or we called "flat footed" (like I said before try to watch footwork in boxing highlights.) Yes, you can. The Golden age Muay Thai fighters are some of the most elusive fighters of all time. Contrary to popular belief, the highest level of Muay Thai fighters during the golden age has some of the best footwork in combat sports, and that doesn't stop a lot of Muay Khao fighters like Dieselnoi, Chamuekpet, Lamnamoon and Langsuan to clinch and dominate elusive fighters. >So clinching is a mistake plan of fighting a boxer if you are a Muay Thai user.) You're absolutely delusional. A clinch can easily negate any striking martial art, especially if you don't know how to deal with it, and by default, a boxer doesn't know how to deal with elbows, knees and high level upper body grappling. Go and see the fights of the fighters I mentioned like Diesenloi and see how helpless a boxer can be in a Thai clinch.
I think it's just more well-rounded striking in general. This is more Punches vs. Well-Rounded Striking, and seeing that Kickboxing is the physical version of Chess, of course kickboxers would be doing the strategic thing and kick someone whose weakness is kicks. So Boxpan, enjoy your Kickboxing lessons.
That was very light contact. He’ll be fine for his actual fight.
Is there some place we can see you sparring?
I think the main reason boxers like myself would find it tough against muay thai or kickboxing is because of awareness of kicks i think if i boxer learned how to use footwork around kicks it would be brilliant to see
I know this is old but the boxer if he doesn’t want to worry about leg kicks ever again he can add leg/thigh conditioning to his sets have to only be 30 sec non stop thigh kicks to one side then 30 seconds to the other side
When is the wing Chun guy supposed to debut? And our guy here that’s boxing max and victor?
I’ve been doing Muay Thai for 23 years. I’ve sparred many boxers for fun. You got to give them more than this. I did a full contact match against a boxer last year and he took 4 of my leg kicks and quit. I think Muay Thai guy is being too relaxed. Turn it up more than that. Hit those right leg kicks hard then fake the kick and slip left body hook and done.
@anthonygarcia1868
Ай бұрын
thats why there hasn't been a single boxer fighting muay thai rules or mma ever in recent years but they want to call them out. theyre good only at BOXING. Not real fighting.
I can't kick well but even the most minor appilcation of learning how would do wonders for this fight. The bottom line is if he doesn't want to kick he still needs to use his legs to his advantage. Everyone knows how to push someone away with your legs, you need that or else you'll never get anywhere near a kickboxer. Oh, and he's not a good enough boxer to showcase an excellent boxer vs kickboxer example. The idea being a boxer is so fast that a kickboxer can't get a single kick loaded, teeped or putting up a knee before getting knocked out from a superior boxing angle compared to kickboxing.
Comment 10 on video catching up Hey is that the same Boxer who sparred that one ITF TKD Guy 😄🥊?
If this wasn`t a friendly spar, Boxpans left leg would be so busted
Oh my god he need to check the low kick
its not impossible to fight someone who has kicks without using kicks or elbows or knees, but you need strong advancing power to cut the kick off and even stronger punching power to do one of two things: 1. Cause pain 2. have enough stopping power to off balance the guy off his one leg Just eating them is a recipe for disaster man. Think he'll learn dirty boxing or clinching at least? Technically Shuai Jiao is standing boxing where you hit the opponent with the ground
Questo è esattamente cio che accade in quasi tutti gli incontri comr questo... Il pugile viene martoriato sulle gambe, nelle quali non ha difesa, e non riesce ad avvicinarsi come vorrebbe per sferrare piu combinazioni... Qui ha resistito perche era uno sparring leggero con le paratibie, ma a contatto pieno senza protezioni forse non avrebbe raggiunto il secondo round...
I know they keep going because they are light sparring. But I seen enough early 90's fights to know those leg kicks would have ended it quickly.
Watch out for those teep to back kick.. tkd kinda sorry for that. And question mark kicks
boxer knew from the getgo that if the muay thai guy wasnt playing nice that it would’ve been real real bad for him. took him about 30 sec to realize that he’s locked in there at this guys mercy for another round. like in takeru vs superlek, once superlek found his range and tempo all takeru could do was take the punishment and with each hard blow he took to the legs or the body, takeru’s chances of landing that one big KO blow diminished. boxer was just gonna have to sit there and take it cuz he cant stop it.
Muay Thai going very light w those kicks
Why doesn't MT guy just clinch and knee over and over?
The Gap between Tennis and Badminton.
Imagine boxer without gloves he can press you in clutch and ko you. I ve been training muay thai for months in gym then i learn in home. I realize that number 1 weapon to self defense and fight still punch
@anthonygarcia1868
Ай бұрын
you learn "in home"? No. In the "clinch" the Thai fighter can throw full elbows and knee's with no remorse and dominate the clinch with actual Clinch ability. Boxing clinch is literally just slapping. Any trained MT fighter will Grab the head and control. TF you on about.
It looks like a fight scene from a low-Budget “Tubi” movie
I want to see some elbows btw, good fight
A boxer showing his legs like this would get powerful calf kicks until he can't stand up no more.
For all of the boxing fans It's 2024, you can KZread it though. There are many proofs that boxing can't defeat Muaythai in a street fight.
Boxer needs to learn to check and box amateurish (Olympic fencing style) he’ll me much lighter in the feet to step out of range of kicks and to step into punching combos and to sort the knees out the boxer needs to instead of blocking the knee he needs to parry with his elbow like a Muay Thai fighter does But boxer is lucky the mauy Thai guy doesn’t clinch with him or the boxer won’t have a baldy what to do
muay thai is best
oh boxers will learn kicking, all you have to do is kick the leg, do it a few times and they cant stand no more.. After that first lesson, they will appreciate the low kick ;)
Light sparring is brilliant but it takes away one of Muay Thai's strengths which is destructive power.
Boxer is limited in technique he could shift weight to the other foot to avoid the knees and kicks and throw body shots on that high guard then high and keep em guessing
Why isn’t the boxer using angles instead of just going north/south ?
@h4z
Жыл бұрын
Probably weary of those kicks coming in at angles he's not used to
@AwakenZen
Жыл бұрын
Kicks
The boxer is decent, but again he threw a lot more volume lol, it really depends on the style of each fighter, a boxer who can keep distance would give a thai fighter trouble
Boxpan need to check the kicks, I don't know why boxers don't do this
@MrTheil
Жыл бұрын
It’s simple. It’s not a Boxing technique, so they obviously don’t train it. Not to mention you’re not gonna be worrying about kicks in a Boxing match.
@unknownentity8256
5 ай бұрын
Then I suppose you don't know much about fighting, boxers stance isn't suited for checking, the weight distribution and also the stance is much wider than a Thai stance.
Jerry here is one video of 降龍拳法in real action kzread.info/dash/bejne/aoCar9qAh9SyZ8Y.html
Saying there's a gap between boxing and muay thai really shouldn't be a controversial statement.
I feel like victor is just playing
Four weapons are better than two.
@unknownentity8256
5 ай бұрын
8* and he didn't use more than 6.
Gotta be honest, the commentary isnt so good and some stuff is just misdescribed. Nice of the MT to be gentle
@FightCommentary
Жыл бұрын
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Can you imagine no shin guards haha
How would you do nothing but chop leg and he’d be done lmao
All a Muay Thai fighter needs is about a dozen calve kicks and the boxer’s movement and striking power go out the window.
There is a clear weight disadvantage here
The Muay Thai guy should practice throwing his hands more ngl. They can set up kicks/elbows/knees off the punches
@anthonygarcia1868
Ай бұрын
rodtang
The jabs for a leg kick is unrealistic because a normal leg kick will disrupt balance enough to make punching not possible. I'd think the Muay thai guy is getting annoyed because boxing guy is acting as if the kicks he eating do not move him at all, and boxing guy is "countering" very unrealistically. In a good sparring, a partner acts as if being kicked would be damaging and transfer enough momentum to move you. This is just highly unrealistic because thai guy is being nice by pulling everything but boxing guy is acting as if the kicks he's eating really are as soft as theyre being thrown. This is really a beginner mistake that coach will point out as bad sparring and bad sparring etiquette, but seeing as this is just for content, the muay thai guy is not in a position to "educate" boxing guy. Anyway, i think the horse has been beaten to a pulp by yours truly. In case its still clinging to life, boxing guy acts as if leg kicks are mosquito bites and if this was 50% sparring, he would take maximum 2 before he changes his stance and quits throwing long jabs for free
@FightCommentary
Жыл бұрын
If only you saw the comments to these videos
@Autonamatonamaton
Жыл бұрын
probably Boxpan hasn't ever been hit with a full force round kick to the leg, even the accumulation of lighter shots over those rounds was really mincing up his leg. A boxer probably goes his entire career never being hit in the leg even once, so he probably didn't have any way to know that his partner was being super restrained. Of course, it looked like Boxpan was throwing very lightly as well, I think this was a respectful spar considering the circumstances
@Bartron_Flat_Earth
Жыл бұрын
@creepypastas This is not Theater
boxer cant box if the MT fighter clinches
Victor the dragon has baji, muay Thai and MMA. He even created his own style-降龍拳
@goodboi1725
Жыл бұрын
why am i surprised that the guy that has dragon in his name has a style named subduing dragon fist, not complaining tho sounds straight out of an anime
I just dont understand why you would be a boxer when thai boxing is an option! So many more tools
Although I agree that more tools are better at least get a real boxer. Anyone who knows boxing knows that this guy doesn't have the fundementals and science or skills for that matter to compete with most legit boxers.
Light sparring...
Armchair coaches in the comments Lmao
Height
Dude boxing needs to at least figure out how hes going to check kicks if he wants to fight a kick boxer.
Notice how Victor was targeting pan legs from the beginning then at round end destroyed Pan for it. Boxing can't beat muay it's a disadvantage.
@FightCommentary
Жыл бұрын
Pan didnt do well in his official match for KOD. Once i get the footage i will show everyone. Definitely kicks that finished him, but it might have been head kicks.
@AngryGrape1337
11 ай бұрын
@@FightCommentary Head kicks are worse, broken legs are temporary, but CTE is permanent.
Muay Thai is the Deadliest Martial Art.
@fightcommentarybreakdown please review floyd mayweather Vs that kid Jarvis
@FightCommentary
Жыл бұрын
I saw that the other day! I take a closer look!
@w8ngr
Жыл бұрын
@@FightCommentary you’ll have a good breakdown of it mate
@FightCommentary
Жыл бұрын
I just found your comment again. Forgot who you were recommending until now.
@w8ngr
Жыл бұрын
@@FightCommentary how many videos did you watch before you decided to come back to the comment to actually see who it was I recommended? 🤣🙈🤣
:)
If boxpan where actually throwing real punches, he might be doing a little better.
The boxer is in a huge disadvantage
The boxers 3 straight is scrap as well, the 2-3 are non existent in power
muaythai guy needs to work on his stance... looks like a regular guy chillin around, thats not muay thai. Where is the tipping on front food and heavy standing on the back leg?
@Lorena-ku5xl
9 ай бұрын
Muay thai has many stances.
@Lorena-ku5xl
9 ай бұрын
The one that you are are talking about is the defensive muay thai stance. The muay thai practitioner of this video seems to prefer the basic 50/50
Got dismantled by mauy thai 😂 serious martial art
Learn Wushu. It's very comprehensive...Chin Na, Chuan Fa, weapons, Sanda, Shuai Jiao, Tai Chi, Wing Chun, erc. Train it like MMA.
so basically boxing sucks
A lot of people are saying Boxpan needs to train kickboxing/muay thai himself to stand a chance (and low key this would be the easiest route to victory probably). I think Boxpan potentially has the footwork to avoid getting kicked to shreds, but boxers aren't used to reading kicks so they don't have the wiring to move in on a kick or avoid them. Boxpan seems to rely a lot on his hand speed though so he can also move in on the kick and try to piece his opponent up close. In this footage I think he was trying to figure a way to do that, close the distance into boxing range so he doesn't have to worry about the kicks. His best bet if that's his route is probably to try and walk them down and press his opponent against the cage so they can't move back and keep peppering him with kicks.
@Zzz-tf5mw
Жыл бұрын
It's not just about kick or no kick. To avoid low kick, the boxer has to change his stance. The wide stance is opened to leg kick. And, to omit wide stance, the footwork won't be the same. There is also about leg conditioning too. They also kick in taekwondo but no low kick, only from the waist up that taekwondo fighter has wide stance too. They also just can't deal with low kick. Besides, close the distance can lead to him to clinching, thus kneeing. Muaythai fighter also have push kick to keep the distance.
commentator has extreme bias towards the thai guy, the thai guy would eat 3 punches and land a barely placed kick anjd the commentator would go WOAAHAHAHAH. if ur gonna be a commentator you have to acknowledge both lol.
Boxpan must be "your favorite boxer" because the dude can't fight. In my prime, I would run though these Muay Thai boxers as if they were tissue paper, because they simply didn't know what to do with fighters who came at them with lethal hands and who didn't just stand there while letting them load up to kick their legs. And Boxpan never heard of throwing flurries or dirty boxing? The dude is just sitting there letting this Muay Thai fighter OUTPUNCH him...Boxpan must be a sub novice, amateur boxer. A good boxer would have tour the Muay Thai boxer to pieces. I am not convinced that Muay Thai is better than boxing. I'll tell you what. Take your Muay Thai fighter and go up to Mayweather's gym and challenge some of Mayweather's fighters. If he can beat one of Mayweather's "good" boxers, maybe I will change my outlook. Yes, he can kick to the legs. Well, if you want to get nasty, boxers can punch to the groin. So, do you want to go that rout?
@FightCommentary
Жыл бұрын
Please send us footage any time!
@paulz3381
Жыл бұрын
"In my prime" 😂😂😂
Inna mutual bout muay thai always wins but if we're at a bar in jeans the boxer always wins
The boxer is terrible, wtf
Muay thai has more weapons for sure but if they had no gloves and if boxer pumched him hard once or twice he could knowck him out easily, which you cant accheave with kicks to the leg or body. I do muay thay now but i did boxing for 4 years and i love boxing but muay thai just has more weapons. Muay thai fighters should incorporate some of boxing techniques to improve muay thai since boxing is pure knockout punching power shill
If Muay Thai landed two of those slow, weak leg kicks with actual power, boxer would be on the floor.
Muay Thai will always win.
@jg3000
Жыл бұрын
Because they box too. I saw a boxing guy destroy a tai kwon do guy. Just because you kick doesn't mean you have the advantage.
How do you get outboxed by a muay thai fighter as a boxer? Come on man...
As someone who has done both. I can say this. Put a heavyweight boxer against a MT fighter. See how quick that argument changes. Every fight starts with a punch, not a kick. If you think it starts with a kick. Then you never learned muay thai and are talking out your @ss. 2nd,Western boxing has superior head movement,foot movement. Keep doing that front foot tapping like as if your from some legit thai boxing camp. Watch how quickly you get pushed. Lastly, to cut all this BS out of the way. Put an elite MT guy against Mike tyson in his prime. End of story. If any of you featherweight cherries start off with that "I'm gonna low kick him,bro" you never fought and need to stfu.
Я видел боя,когда боксеры не давали муай тайцам не единого шанса попасть..просто боксёры умели ставить блок от лоукика,и делать прихваты ног.у этого боксера не одного захода за спину или в просто в бок...ни одного циркуля...очень слабо двигается и слабо бьёт.