"If you want to see some terrible games and you're in the audience, you can go upstairs. if you're at home, you can look at your own games." LMFAO Ben is so Savage. he was on fire this lecture

@Boxsteam

7 жыл бұрын

Samuel Young didn't know my wins against GMs are bad. But I mean it's Ben finegold (whoever that is) so he must be right?

@kingsgambit

6 жыл бұрын

uh uh, someone is butthurt about a joke like some little kid?

@Sbigsla

5 жыл бұрын

@@Boxsteam crybaby

@Boxsteam

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sbigsla you do know it's a joke, right? Take the L

@vclapem9140

4 жыл бұрын

Justin Norman no, that’s just pure salt

"completing undevelopment, setting up for the next game" lol

@karun0109

7 жыл бұрын

Actually laughed out loud. Ben is awesome.

@samiwaleedandoni

5 жыл бұрын

38:48

@okinawanokinawan6477

5 жыл бұрын

omegaLoL

@ronclass1782

5 жыл бұрын

One of his best

- On this move, you should think here for an hour. - But Mr. Finegold, why should I think for an hour? - It's Grandmaster Finegold and I get paid by the hour. LOL.

@THEONLYDANNYA

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

Don't listen to the people who say your ego gets in the way of your teaching, or your humor, if anything, I think it makes for a BETTER learning experience! I've learned so much from your classes it's remarkable! Keep up the awesome lectures and keep the crowd laughing! Humor makes the game less tedious and really makes you seem like a cool guy to learn from. Build connection and really makes the videos entertaining. Make more!

@Boxsteam

7 жыл бұрын

Don't Hit The Ben humor is fine but belittling others is a negative trait. I've had teachers who called some students dumb and they failed. But when I had a teacher who helped the dumb kid get smarter and not insult him, he gets better and passes. Maybe if this guy was not insulting he would be a viable coach.

@jcsmitty22

6 жыл бұрын

It's clear that Justin Norman has no sense of humor whatsoever lol. If you honestly thing that he is belittling his students instead of joking with them then you are not listening. If you're trolling, good work

@MrSupernova111

6 жыл бұрын

@ Justin Norman, anything can be taken out of context if you do not have all the information. You don't know the relationship between Ben and his students. Maybe they give him hell off camera. Perhaps, you need to work on not being so judgmental.

@Brusselpicker

5 жыл бұрын

Ask “GM" Ken West if he's upset, lol. He takes the mickey out of the people watching let alone his students, GM Finegold is a great teacher that uses humour to make his point. I've learnt a tremendous amount about chess from this guy.

@SalivationNation

5 жыл бұрын

@@jcsmitty22 From a year in the future* He's probably doing both, lol

People who say Morphy would suck if he came back today aren't thinking clearly... That's only true if he's not allowed to go on the computer or open a book.

@smaklilu90

5 жыл бұрын

It is like saying Mozart sucks lmao they have no clue

@RobertKaucher

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah. The reason why chess theory improved in the 20th century is because those players had Morphy to look to.

@SyRose901

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly the same as if someone said Beethoven came back alive(young, not the old deaf ego), he wouldn't make good music unless he opens a book or listen to other music.

@vknl99

4 жыл бұрын

Rose B. that’s not at all the same lol

@augustgreig9420

3 жыл бұрын

I know. I hate this argument. They make the same argument in all sports, "Babe Ruth would suck today." It never occurs to them that some of these legendary athletes would actually be even better today. People forget Morphy quit playing chess when he was 21 because there was no money in it back then, and it wasn't respected in the US. He basically taught himself to play with no books or anything. It's unbelievable.

@33:04.... the Evans Gambit... named after Mr Gambit.

@SlickMongeese

5 жыл бұрын

You mean captain gambit.

@Bill-rj1cl

4 жыл бұрын

@@SlickMongeese YOU MEAN GAMBIT GAMBIT

Who can possibly dislike this video? Ben Finegold rocks!!!!

@ojasvikhattar8818

5 жыл бұрын

Its "Grand master" Ben Finegold :D

"Completing the undevelopment", had a chuckle there.

Watching this on August 7th 2023, exactly 10 years after Ben gave this lecture :D

This is an excellent lecture, not only because of using Morphy's games, (because they are extremely instructive to class level players), also this is one of GM Finegold's best presentations.

14:40 "if you want to see some really terrible games, in the live audience, you can walk upstairs, if you re at home you can look at your own games" you can write a Bible from Finegold s quotes.

@johnjonzz7649

6 жыл бұрын

That comment was out loud funny! I get a chuckle every time I think about it.

Excellent lecture. Finegold's bluster is, as some fail to realize, a funny running joke. His sensitivity to the historical context in which Morphy played actually indicates a great deal of humility. It's those individuals who farm content from posting every tedious game of "the next big thing" in chess, games often interesting only to master-level players, who are engaged in "the enormous condescension of history", in E.P. Thompson's words, when they haughtily dismiss someone who couldn't help it if the GMs of Europe of the day were far below his talent. Morphy: a one-of-a-kind talent whose games are a gift to us all.

On the next episode of Ancient Aliens: Paul Morphy

@missjessgem

9 жыл бұрын

Ettick very suspicious

@Tonyplat98

8 жыл бұрын

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@gxtmfa

8 жыл бұрын

Winner of the chess internet

@pastorofmuppets4552

6 жыл бұрын

I'd actually like to see that.

@infinitysalinity7981

6 жыл бұрын

More mysterious than the pyramids

Just for fun we need a camera scan of the students. I wanna see what "Grandmaster" Ken West looks like.

@CaseyHarmon

8 жыл бұрын

He actually shows up late in one video and the camera catches him.

@InSpadez

6 жыл бұрын

It would get old being the constant butt of Finegolds jokes.

@wiadroman

6 жыл бұрын

Let's face it, we all are. He insults everyone, left and right :-)

@kevinbyrne4538

5 жыл бұрын

Ken West was probably about 19-20. He was fat, with long dark blond hair. A bit of a slob. But he tolerated Ben's teasing and jibes.

Omfg the way he rips on GM Ken West is so effing hilarious

this guys deadpan is incredible :D

"whatever magnus' is plus 10"

There's a Morphy game in the lecture I'm uploading now on doubled pawns and double king-pawn openings. Should be live very soon!

@kvadratbitter

4 жыл бұрын

Saint Louis Chess Club is it live yet?

@STLChessClub

4 жыл бұрын

@@kvadratbitter Yes! kzread.info/dash/bejne/fnuHu6iRe9Cah84.html

as far as recorded history, Paul Morphy was the first great chess grand master. a true champion. he could not control the quality of his opponents. often giving them a piece or some type of odds. and morphy played many a simultaneous games while blindfolded. at the height of his greatness, he got bored with the game and distanced himself from competitive matches. all chess legends owe paul morphy for setting the chess standard. history itself will always paint the picture for the one who came "first".

@lovetownsend

10 жыл бұрын

isnt it interesting that Paul Morphy "boredness" with chess is the same as Bobby Fischer. there is deep psychology behind this I bet indeed

@ReinodeEpifania

2 жыл бұрын

@@lovetownsend Morphy and Bob later on Life got mental problems. Genius indeed, but it has a price.

Another great lecture. Great stuff.

One of the best videos by GM Finegold, in my view: chapeau!

I effing love Ben Finegold.

@lovetownsend

10 жыл бұрын

follow him on twitter :)

@Boxsteam

7 жыл бұрын

Marc Ben-Avraham he's a dick

@Anubis2828

7 жыл бұрын

you're taking life too seriously

@Anubis2828

7 жыл бұрын

Justin that is

@Boxsteam

7 жыл бұрын

Brad F lol I wish I could play him just to show how close a "1000 rated player" can get to beating him. Of course he will most likely beat me but it would be close and he's been playing longer than i lived .

I love Ben. It takes a while to grow on you but once it does you adore the man! He's one of those Hard Knocks type of teachers that smartens you up

Only discovered morphy about 6 months ago my fav player of all time

hey GM Ben Finegold thank you for the excellent lecture. Great humor. I am learning a lot of tactics.

This was your best lecture, in my opinion, GM Finegold. You show Morphy's genius with great humor and skill. I wish I had your memory -

Entertaining and instructive lecture and NOT boring (like most other chess lectures). Thank you GM Finegold.

Tal went back in time and called himself Morphy.

@MrMorlaf

7 жыл бұрын

Tal was a little, pathetic, kitty compared to Morphy.......

@MrMorlaf

6 жыл бұрын

I already know what he was.... "considered". I was merely commenting on the time-travel joke Locutus made regarding Tal / Morphy. And then, in my opinion, Morphy was a superior force..... Although all we TRULY have is ppl's "opinions" and "considerations"......

@rachelsherlock4570

6 жыл бұрын

Whenever Tal played any1 serious and was not in a blitz he got obliterated (yes, yes, he beat Botvinik in 1960). Morphy played against the best in the world too..... it just so happens they were not wearing the little tiara of "FIDE world champion". I also hope you understand that my previous statement of "a little, pathetic, kitty" might have been a slight exaggeration on my part but you get my drift.....

@gemmacampos9966

6 жыл бұрын

Then you know nothing about Tal. It takes engine-like move (20 - 30 move ahead) to defend against Tal's attack and to beat Tal, Botvinik had to spend few years preparing the most defensive, boring position + Tal's kidney problem. Remember at that time, Botvinik is dominating everyone in the world

@rachelsherlock4570

6 жыл бұрын

Tal frequently lost to almost every1. So we remember how he gave his rook VERY early on against Karpov for the exchange and then beat him. We remember these games a) because they are beautiful, b) they are instructive and c) because they are rare. 20-30 moves ahead by a computer? rubbish. Botvinik had to prepare a few years? rubbish (he prepared all his life). Tal had kidney failure? fact.

The second greatest thing Paul Morphy ever did was introduce me to Ben Finegold.

Love ben's lectures!

I love Ben Finegold's videos , so funny and entertaining, awesome guy

Never seen a Finegold lecture before. But instant fan :)

This guy is awesome i wish a had a teacher like that as a youngster.

Ben is the best instructor ever. Hilarious, too.

At 26:43, Morphy checkmated his opponent without ever developing his A-file rook, therefore not attacking with all his pieces. Terrible.

very good video - Ben is great

These lecutures are easy to listen to and you look forward to what has to be said- thanks ben for the sober entertainment.

Great stuff

"if kf2 then ng4 check therefore kf2" my favorite gm

Played out many Morphy games. This man is driven to win the prize at any cost, including if his own pieces get in the way

I think many people don't get GM Feingold's joke about Morphy's opponents being "terrible" -- they were only terrible for their time. Many of the bad moves were considered "book moves" at the time. Morphy's genius is that he arrived at the modern style on his own!!!

I was watching the Akobian lectures. I've never seen GM Finegold before this lecture. He is hilarious.

@Thaumazo83

4 жыл бұрын

Two completely different styles, GM Akobian and GM Finegold: actually, I like them both.

That knight move at the end is just surreal! Only a guy like Morphy would have seen that.

Love this guy's sense of humor.

Morphy is breath-taking.

Morphy was a genius. He was fantastic at quick development and creating initiative. Love to watch his games. He would have been tremendous today.

@Boxsteam

7 жыл бұрын

Tom Monk if you let him have a chess book or the Internet, he would be one of the strongest today

@tommonk7651

7 жыл бұрын

Justin, I agree completely. Some people just have an innate feel for the game. It wouldn't matter how many years I played the game or how much I studied, I would never be a Morphy. Remember, he played incredibly quickly. If he stopped to calculate, he could have been as good as anyone. He destroyed Adolf Anderson, probably the best of his day. He would have killed Staunton. I just regret that he played such a short time. What amazing games we have lost.

The reasons why players are better today than in the 1800s are not only improved communications and transport, but also knowledge people accumulated since then. Players of today have a ton more games to analyse than Morphy, and they have computers to do it! He had to make do without all the openings and theory chess players can study today from books written since then. Imho that makes Morphy's accomplishment of taking the game to an entire new level truly remarkable.

This man is hillarious. He even makes fun of himself

You're the best, Ben!

Mr Finegold, i mean Mr GM Finegold, is hilarious!! :D

Can anyone list the games that were discussed in this lecture? As in the names of his opponents and the year it was played, thanks!

also who the hell is ken west?

@Brusselpicker

5 жыл бұрын

"GM" Ken West.

@Thaumazo83

4 жыл бұрын

A man in the audience. He can be seen in one of GM Finegold's videos.

@Tempusverum

3 жыл бұрын

One of Ben’s students

@Amarnath-ik4fy

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thaumazo83 is there any link of that video. I wanna see him 😂

Ben Finegold the most entertaining grandmaster *thumbs up*

I like this dude alot. Perfect lecturer, witty and he knows his shit.

At 7:10, is the move Rook from F4 to G4 good? After the rook sacrifice with the knight on H6, the queen can take the knight and build the attack. then eventually bring the other rook on F6.

i love this guy his humor is great

Ben is so knowledgeable about chess and chess history it’s insane.

@jackbicknell4711

Жыл бұрын

Almost as if he plays and studies the game for a living

I can’t understand the first Morphy game still. At 8:14 Ben is talking about him finding Qh4 but what happens after that? Can’t black still trade down? Like what happens if black plays Rf8? Thanks for any help understanding. 😄👍🏼

where can i find the first game he looks at?

Ben Finegold you are absolutely incredible funny! that joke at 38:48 i laughed so hard :) keep up the good work

"He couldn't play you straight up because you would be -30 on move one .." unbelievably funny stuff.

what's soundtrack in the begining?

Thank you for making me laugh after a dreadful day!

This guy makes me laugh.

My calculating skills are improving. In the first game I first looked at Rf8+ followed by Qxf8 and for some reason followed up with Rxf8+ and after Rxf8 began looking at checks I could give with the queen but obviously there were no mates let alone perpetuals. So then I looked at Qg5+ and calculated ... Qg6, Qd5+ Kg7 (because if black plays Qf7 to block the check it's mate in 1 with Qxf7#), Rf7+ Kh6. Here I thought I found the mate but then realized 'oh yeah I don't have checkmate here because I moved my rook off of the 4th Rank.' Then I also figured out after all that black can actually block Qd5+ w/ Be6 and White's attack is in shambles. I also realized Qg6 by black is really throwing a hammer into my mating ideas and had a eureka moment of combining my original idea with my new idea. Playing Rf8+ first, saccing my rook to get the Queen off the diagonal to be able to block the check on the g6 square and instead forced to block on the g7 square. So then the new line I was able to calculate was Rf8+ Qxf8, Qg5+ Qg7, Qd5+ Be6 (The bishop block in this line is a pointless means of defense since black's Queen isn't on the g6 square to protect it), Qxe6+ Qf7, Qxf7#.

More of Paul Morphy please jeje.

It's a knight move from f5, but I still expect other pieces to be suggested....LOL...brilliant....!!!!!

Like most of you guys so forth - rolling his eyes and makes great footwork

Wonderful :)

This is peak Finegold right here: smart, quick, witty, acerbic, portly, and hilarious. Also very good at chess, confusing the audience.

17:00 such a pretty checkmate ❤️

This guy is great.

noob question, what is the meaning of mate with advantage?

Very good

The public demands the Finegold - Morphy matchup!! Make this happen!

My computer is recommending d6 over Qg6 in that first game. Idk why. It could have been because I didn't remove the knight prior to analyzing the game however.

Paul Morphy is my favorite chess player ever. It must have been fun trashing noobs back in his day. All these greedy morons got schooled so well. Just awesome.

What is de player's name who losses the 2 last games of the tournament ?

If you plug this game into a modern engine, you can see Morphy played the top engine move about 90% of the time. This also becomes clear, if you plug his other games into an engine.

The Power of Development

31:00 Engine analysis and opening databases have now shown that g4 is the worst first move, and is practically lost for white. f3 gets second last and should probably be drawn with best play.

This dude is HILARIOUS !!!

I've asked stockfish 10 to analyze the position shown at min 4:25 and it says that is not equal... -2,4

Hilarious commentary!

Every great player seems to reference Morphy. I'm not remotely strong enough to evaluate who the strongest was, but Morphy certainly has to be in the conversation.

This is my kind of guy

This lecture was filmed shortly after Finegold got his grandmaster title, making him the oldest ever chess player to become a GM. So it’s actually a self-deprecating bit that he keeps mentioning it, and it’s absolutely hilarious.

To quote Spock, "Fascinating." Though I've always wondered if being fascinated broke the Vulcan no-emotion rule.

I have a very similar knight discovery theme in my last own game on my channel. My game was lost totally. But i hoped for a position to arise and it came and i won.

34:51 Why not pawn on d4 to c3 and then if takes with knight then wins a rook and if doesn't take then simply pushes the pawn forward winning the queen?

Ben, I've heard you say "check mate 'with advantage'" a few times. I'm not sure if it's a joke or if there is such a thing. I'm not even sure what "with advantage" means. May I have an explanation please?

@STLChessClub

10 жыл бұрын

It's definitely a joke. Making an especially good move gives you an advantage in the game. Checkmate is the ultimate "advantage" because it's game over. Just a little trademarked Finegold humor

@jhonnytuffister2347

10 жыл бұрын

Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis More finegold please! We love him.

@amandas1270

7 жыл бұрын

. . . but if ur giving a lecture to convey 'meaning' to a beginner (like meee) it seems counterproductive to confuse the issue with extra unnessessary filler words? players who already understand chess may find it entertaining or amusing but i was discombobulated by his 'pleonasm' :)

@vga1232

7 жыл бұрын

Discombobulated, huh?

@geores9152

7 жыл бұрын

wayne miller "Checkmate with advantage" - GM Ben Finegold, rof

Thaha! And for those of you,who think that he is full of himself (which he is^^) he gets what he's coming to him when Seirawan lectures him during his (Seirawan's) classes^^

that was nice

the funny thing is morphy didnt fully concentrate on chess i cant remember i think he was a lawyer or something and retired from chess rather early, imagine if he did more and actually focused on chess!

@KARTIKEYA007

10 жыл бұрын

Then he would have got cautious and we would not have had the maniac style player

@MrSupernova111

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, he was a lawyer and because he retired early when he was so dominant he is referred to as the pride and sorrow of chess. I agree with Finegold that Morphy was the best chess player ever due to his absurd advantage above everyone else in his time. Only two other players come close which are Bobby Fischer and Raul Capablanca. Of course, over time chess players got better but we can't discard the natural talent people possessed in a time when they had very limited resources to learn chess.

@augustgreig9420

3 жыл бұрын

There was no money in chess, and it wasn't taken seriously in the US. He quit playing at 21.

I wish i had a small ben finegold in my head warning me before i make bad moves

32:45 I fell for this in an online bullet game today :(

when can we get gm ken west on a video

Ng3 Mind = blown. Okay... to see that in a blindfold simul match? Ridiculous.

"Bishop c1 completing the undevelopment" xΔ

At 11:04 isn't it mate in 3...Ben says it is mate in 5...i mean Rf8+ forcing Q*f8 then R*f8 forcing R*f8 and then Qg5#

@siquenoquenoquesi

9 жыл бұрын

I also saw that, but if you look closer, it's not checkmate, king scapes to f7