Drinking beer and talking about tackle is the greatest thing to do behind actual fishing.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Agreed 👍 🍻

@bassface12348

5 ай бұрын

I could not agree more!!

@samaxe3489

5 ай бұрын

Ditto...cheers

@timisoutdoors

5 ай бұрын

Totally waiting for the day Ben breaks out the bottle of bourbon. 🤞🏾

Hearing you talk about how some Japanese brands are literally only one or two people is really special. I wonder if you could highlight them by making an interview video with them? Maybe make it into a series, or combine them together for a big special episode 🤔

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

👍👍🍻

Man you guys are some of the only guys who'll actually talk about this stuff without the fake "positivity" about everything. The industry is straight messed up right now and people dont get how many layers there are to it. I just saw an interview with mush mouth jacob wheeler taking credit for the do live beaver knock off, and all the comments are just showering his phoney behind with praise and co signing knock offs. It made me sick. Thanks for being genuine human beings fellas.

@MaineYyak

5 ай бұрын

Glad at least one other person sees thru his nonsense. Cheers

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening, and for the feedback! That had to be a tough interview to make it through 🤣👊🍻

@jordannarlock7995

5 ай бұрын

Wheeler is a pud knuckle; his description of the Rapala knock was infuriating. The fact that he had the audacity to say "his design" It made me want to punch his under bite back into place !

Very Nice!! I really enjoyed watching this. Just two guys talking about fishing. No yelling , no blaming , no controversy and most import- NO DRAMA. Refreshing , people forget its about the passion we have , not just catching fish but the more important aspect is the experience! Thanks

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

I’m glad you found this worthy of your time! Thank you for listening 👊🍻

This might be one of my favorite episodes so far. I love hearing Ben’s perspective on the market, and how conditions change price. Especially, the part about the amount of work small lure makers do to get something to market. Great job as always guys.

I have a problem with professional anglers acting like their sponsors knockoff is a new idea.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Me too!!!

Glad you and your family are safe Ben 🙌

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you my friend 👊🍻

I have bought two baits from a flipper because I couldn't get it from the original maker and the flip price wasn't exhorbitant compared to the MSRP but I don't get buying something and not fishing it and the amount of work compared to the profit margin makes flipping seem like a waste of time as a stand alone enterprise. I'm really enjoying the podcasts. I like going down rabbit holes and you offer a lot of insight into the fishing industry.

Rumor has it, Berkley just knocked off your podcast. Berkley, Baits & Beer.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

😂! Maybe they’ll invite me to be a guest 👍🍻

Watched for a second time.... Such a great conversation guys!!

I’ve listened to every podcast on Spotify during my commutes either to work or home. I just love the subject matter boys. Keep it up

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening! 👊🍻

Very interesting topic. Gave me some things to think about for sure. Love these podcasts. I don't have any friends who share my passion for bass fishing.... so, listening to these fills that gap to some degree. Thanks for doing these.

Best podcast across all platforms!!!!

Loving these podcasts guys. Thanks for putting this out there. Cheers 🍻

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for listening! 🍻

Listened to the whole episode and didn't fall asleep, LOL. Great conversation fellas!! Cheers and Tight Lines!!

J.D.M. is by far some of the best baits,not all but most for sure im a construction worker and can't afford most but save to get the best .Keep it going guys.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening man! 👊🍻

Glad I tuned in. Great topics and even better dudes dropping some knowledge on closed minded people 🤙🏾

Tackle piracy, guitars, skateboards, parental expertise via Ben. Flippers suck ass, yes to find out that you could get double on it but the garage makers cant produce the amount of a large company that has its own factory so supply and demand is higher on garage makers. Flippers are the reason why I cant get an already hard to get bait. Best podcast so far.

A notification about a new video drop from the hookup tackle is exciting enough... But 2 hour podcast?? Watched it the first chance I got. Thanks as always guys 👊

@jasonemeric9902

5 ай бұрын

Oh, and thumbs down on flippers. I'll just leave it at that lol

Very interesting take on all this, while I am a tackle junkie my full time job is a sole proprietor boutique guitar amp builder so I can really relate with your prospective on all the pricing etc. Enjoy the PodCast keep it up! Btw loved the Holiday $100 box, it is by far the best bait box I've ever bought!

I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I love we are talking about big companies taking advantage of the little guy. Stealing is un-American. Period. This episode was from the heart. Well done. Keep the conversation going.

So on the flipping....here is a recent example.....been waiting months to get grass pieces to fish AAA tournaments series this season. Missed the drop by a couple hours (my problem) but by that night they are Ebay. I pay double for wrong size, wrong color. During this podcast you spoke of taking care of your customers in the case of lost or broken items ect. How about putting practices in place to mitigate or limit flipping? I wonder how much a small Japanese lure maker whould benefit from his lure getting the promotional value of a national level win?

Man, there’s so much relatable content in this discussion. You pretty much covered all of social media since mid-2022, and this industry as a whole has gone off the rails. The flipper game is out of control, especially in big swimbaits, and I feel like there’s so many that hate it, but there’s nothing that can stop it. The knock-offs need to stop, but greed and money seem to take precedence over morals and values. What Ben said about personal thresholds is 1000% accurate. To add to that, hype, flippers, inflation, and everything related to those are forcing a lot of people to increase their thresholds because they want to play the game and have nice gear, boats, electronics, etc.. all in all, thank you for putting this out there, and I hope as many people as possible really listen to it, even if they have different perspectives. It truly is a sad industry these days, and we can only hope it will improve in the future rather than getting worse.

Been waiting for this episode!! Watching and realized it’s 2 hours long……..HERE WE GO!!!!😂😂😂😂😂

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Haha! Thank you for your investment 😜👊🍻

@mattwoodyyy_3597

5 ай бұрын

I love that they are long, the amount of knowledge they have is incredible.

Ben. I love you. Holy shit, swapping out the GD Flag at icast is the most hilariously gangster ass shit in all tackle nerdom. Hearing that seriously made me happy for the rest of an otherwise horrible day. Thank you.

Hey Ben and Geoff excellent listen! I sit in my room with a beer after work and tie on new leaders and baits and listen to all your guys knowledge and opinions. Thanks for doing it and being real !im pretty new to listening only about 2 months but I still scored on some o.s.p. cranks on Black Friday! (my first experience with you guys and it was great ! I love supporting the mom and pop shops so you gotta customer for life with me Ben! haha..,.sorry for the rant. Anyway I've been working on my swimbait for 8 years now and Im so close to getting this thing out but I make everything in molds and my pieces are so tricky to pour the mold and have it fill completely in. Ive got it pretty wired now as far as little tricks when making the molds but the whole process is so brain racking to reverse engineer everything. It wouldn't be so hard if I had auto cad or knew some one that could 3d scan and then upload and tweek it to perfection on the computer...but Im all clay and molds and like you guys said earlier in the show..this thing won't be out of my possession till its reached its point of perfection that I feel won't have Geoff talking sh!t about my bait!!😁 I feel like I resonate with you guys and the Japanese mindset with the attention to detail.. can't wait to drive out from San Diego and see my new favorite store in the whole wide world! Glad you and the fam made it back safe from Japan Ben! -deryk

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening and thank you for your hard work to craft something with integrity! I’m excited to see what you’ve been working on for all these years!!! 👊🍻

Thank you for the great video again I look forward to them. Glad you’re OK from your trip.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening!

I am fairly new to the JDM tackle game, but it is honestly something that I’ve chased my entire life. Growing up using hand poured and hand tied jigs and swim jigs, has really shaped my perspective. This is why my support for JDM baits is an easy conversation. The price will always be there, but being passionate about the way something is made or way it is originated makes it that much more special when I catch that fish. Not only does the bait have a story, but now I have a story to take pride in. I love being able to take pride in the tackle and equipment that I use.

Outstanding. I'm a rabid concert goer and it kills me when some bot/person grabs 10 tickets with no intention of going to the show - thankfully some of the artists are cracking down on this (ie, only allowed to re-sell at original price thru original website) - not sure something like this is possible to do with Geoff's beloved guilded swimbaits. I watched your interview with Nishine and also an interview done by @BassFishingArchives with Nishine - and I am going to save my shillings and look to purchase lures from him in the future (what a compelling life story he has). Keep up the great work and continue operating in an ethical manner. Support the smaller/independent bait/lure makers !

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening! 👊🍻

I enjoyed your video, the two big problems I have is availability of baits to support the original manufacturer. The other is the resale market, people buying small business lures to flip for a big profit. It took me 2 years to buy a KGB Chad shad from KGB directly. I had better luck with Working Class Zero citizens. But still a grind.

I've been designing a glidebait of my own for over a year, and I would definitely want my lure to get into the hands of people that will fish it. But like you guys said, it must catch fish. Fishability, catchability, and durability to me, will always make a lure worth the price if it has that 'it' factor and just gets bit. Hoping one day this year Ill be confident my glide will touch all of those bases.

My brother has owned a fly shop for 35 years, the icast awards definitely paid for in the way you mentioned. Have a business trip beginning of March down your way can’t wait to stop by and check out the shop and spend some money!

I feel like you need to do an episode with Hiroshi Nishine eventually (whether it's a trip to Canada or you steal him for an hour or two at ICAST), he's been mentioned in half of the episodes already 😂. Keep up the great work! It's a great hour or two of listening along and hearing insights and stories from the industry as well as personal stories 🍻

So glad it’s on Spotify

Man I saw a 15’ aluminum John Boat the other day that had 3!!! 3 Fn Live scope transducers on it with 7K worth of Screens. Guy had a 50hp Merc on the back but I bet he was slaying some crappie! Lolol.

I really like the licensing idea. That could give anglers access to the best ideas and reward the innovators. It’s a super interesting conversation digging into the difference between a knock off and an innovation or a new take. Lucky Craft lipless baits aren’t knock off Rattle Traps, they’re a refinement in a lure category.

Awesome podcast gentlemen, especially talking about the flipping industry! The one thing that is really ridiculous is how the majority of the popular swimbait/glidebait makers don't care at all about their customers instead just the almighty dollar! If you don't get in on a drop or traval half way across the United States for a show then your screwed.... They are only a handful of swimbait/glidebait makers that take pre-orders, thos are the true makers that care about their customers!

I really enjoyed this! So I made it all the way through and the flipper discussion part is very interesting...I don't particularly care for that BUT at least the lures go to the ones who are all in whether they are collecting or fishing - also it makes those lures (which are actually border line works of art) more rare so they aren't saturating the lakes with them, so they actually maintain their fishing value longer. I much more dislike knock offs, as they imitate art, and allow many more people who ordinarily wouldn't even think of using that lure access to a tool which then educates more bass - there by killing the usefulness of the lure entirely. The one saving grace of originals vs. knock offs is that almost every time knockoffs for the sheer sake of $ sacrifice quality and therefore, fish catching ability. Attention to detail is what makes great baits great, IMO. Keep up the great work, thanks!

Finally, I’ve been waiting for this one!

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for listening 🍻

Good stuff ...thanks for sharing.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for listening!

You guys are hilarious! Great work

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening 🍻

It’s hilarious listening to this as it pertains to pricing.

Ive been liking these lately

Just finished the episode. I don’t really have an opinion on flippers because I just don’t deal with them lmao. My strategy is to regularly reach out to shops or lure makers to see if they’re stocking or making anything that could be exclusive.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening and leaving feedback!

We need these talks.aka real talk!

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

I’m glad it was worth a listen! Thank you 🍻

These podcasts are amazing

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening!

Really think there will always be a market for the boutique baits, rods etc… the true bass enthusiasts want the super cool baits, rods and reels. Hopefully this will always be a player in the industry!

I wonder how many times the bait maker/company shows the bait sold out to “flip it” themselves! Haha

Love the vids. You are talking about the difference between art and business. The stark reality is that artists usually die broke. For the realist it is important to balance perfection, value, etc. be careful not to dream yourself into being broke. High costs have a point of diminishing returns. Lots of folks are broke at my age because they bought the best damn sound system in the 70-80s. So what’s the best megabass for Ned’s 😊 Keep the vids coming!!!!

I hate flipper and scalpers. To profit off someone else’s work sucks. Especially since sometimes those people are not in the industry or enjoy the actual reason behind the items. They are simply there for profit and nothing else. Like you mentioned the concert tickets. Same thing happens in video games, collectibles like Pokemon, etc.. some kid misses out on something they enjoy cause another adult wants to make a profit. Sad to see. Great podcast as always guys. Good discussion and topics. 🤘

Good conversation 👍

I enjoy the podcast boys!The passion for fishing is a unspoken bond that two strangers can become best friends,its about that special lure that you treasure or you tie on and it makes you lay awake the night before a fishingtrip,to me its a easy way to kill and commercialize that feeling for a financial benefit. In my opinion the buck stops with me and you,if it's a copy I'm not buying it and I won't buy anything with your name on if you basically rip people off that's keeping the soul of fishing alive.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Agreed! 👊🍻

Gonna have to go with Geoff on the flippers. Understand your theory Ben but reasons and intent matter.

Long live the garage builder!!! Fishing’s in my blood. Bass and catfish. Been able to fish several times a year my whole life but not every day or week like I’d like to. Newest hobby is swimbait fishing thanks to Geoff. This episode was great! Knock off’s………….I feel knock off’s are completely unacceptable. Change my idea by 10% and now it’s legally yours. Not how it should work, but this is America. There will always be more fair weather fisherman to buy cheap tackle than serious anglers who invest heavily in quality equipment. It’s about morals and money, and some people forget about morals if they are following the law. Pricing…………….Innovation and technology will never slow down. Inflation doesn’t either. Supply and demand. I’ve perfected buying lightly used items at a fraction of the original price. There’s always a rich guy getting into a hobby that he soon looses interest in. And here I come to buy his collection because his wife said sell it and could care less what he paid. This is America. There’s always another way. Flippers………….My experience with flipping is in the pocket knife world. $500 lure? We’ve got $500 pocket knives. And higher just like with lures. I highly doubt the maker of any item cares what happens after he’s made his money. If the hinkle trout guy cared, he’d put the bait in your hands Geoff. Maybe one day he will hand deliver you one. He’s most likely just as proud of someone putting it on their shelf for a collection piece as art, as he is of someone willing to buy his lure for over double retail. If you have you personal info and card on your phone to instantly come up at online checkout, you can’t miss a drop. With today’s technology you can check out in 30 seconds. I do this and don’t miss drops. Geoff, if you don’t wanna pay $500, don’t. You even said you offered guys $500 before without negotiating. Don’t complain if you miss a drop. It’s just a lure 🤣🤣🤣 jkjk But it does sounds like you’ve never had to take your change to the coin star. When a knife drops and I don’t have the funds, I’m absolutely not buying for double the price down the road. However, just getting into swimbait fishing because of Geoff’s videos, I probably would pay a flipper price for a bait. That just tells me where my heart is between the two hobbies. Don’t hate the flipper, hate the game. You’re literally a part of the flipper circle Geoff. Don’t like flippers? Buy it on the drop or not at all. It’s not fair cause you missed it? It’s only a lure, and this is America. Flipping has been around since before the first tickle me Elmo prolly 30 years ago. It’s just part of the industry whether it’s a big company or mom and pop doing an exclusive item or limited run item. Geoff, I’d say find another hobby or master some finesse fishing before getting burned out on the whole thing. Do you take fishing too seriously? Don’t let the mental game ruin fishing for you in the long run. I keep sayin America when Geoff want to move to Japan for fishing 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Have several more legitimate reasons than that if you really go brother 👍👍👍👍

Great stuff. Totally agree with you guys on the knock off topic. Ben loves flipper…. Smh Ben 😂😂😂

I think Ben has a point here. If there wouldn't be that many anglers willing to pay 500bucks for that lure, we would see high stocks of that bait lying around. Eventually over time, when none of them get sold, they'll become cheaper. But the reality is, that as soon as these baits hit the market they get sold. So there are two Options: 1 - either the majority of fishermen are just to wealthy 2 - we are underestimating the emotional value that "fishing this specific bait" has for a lot of fishermen, so that they are willing to pay that ridiculous amount of money. Either way as long as none of those changes, flippers will make money.

Im listinening on my phone and 5mins inim thinking not only was Ben in japan when earthquake happend. but he was close by or saw every crazy thing i heard about japan in last 2 weeks. You got a guardian angel or some crazy good luck. Glad you and your family is ok. Praying for the rest of japan as well.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

It was a crazy start to a so far crazy year! Thank you for listening and for your thoughts! 👊🍻

As I’m a few minutes in I hear that MJ song, Gonna be starting something! 😂 As a maker the challenge is coming up w something new or major changes to a bait. But to directly copy a bait is just bad juju! That ICast has awarded copy after copy the last few years just shows how much greed is destroying our society!! Doing things bc they are right and refusing to compromise is a dying art. Politicians are literally bought and paid for, companies are driven by corporate greed, and it is just sad! I think we are seeing uptick in the garage maker market bc most of the makers are holding to a desire to do things right. I appreciate you bringing in some Of the garage makers Rafa, KGB, and others. Love hanging w you guys JJ

I could not agree with you more on the knock off pandemic, but I will say that I can think of quite a few baits that JDM manufactures copied in the past. I never liked knock offs of any kind, but the JDM knock offs of baits were hard to complain about because they took the bait and made it so much better. I try my best to buy the original if at all possible, no matter who makes it unless it’s junk and the knock off is far superior.At this point, almost every company has the same bait lineup. The absolute worst offender is not even Berkley…… BPS has been knocking off for so long that their catalog is full of XPS junk. That catalog used to be right behind the Bible for important books in my house, now it goes straight to the can.

@FreedomFishing

3 ай бұрын

And the kicker is... you can always unsubscribe from Bass Pro Shops emails, but they disregard the request keep emailing you for eternity. I also throw the magazines in the trash.

the knock offs suck but I do get that guys want to fish different techniques for cheaper. But fuck Berkeley

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

👊🍻

@pequenioedgarito3067

5 ай бұрын

Yeah! Bu-fu Berkley for knock-off

you guys rock bro

From my own experience buying swimbaits/glide baits, it got easier and easier to spend after buying a few Hinkle Shad’s off eBay lol And it really gets easy after a few catches lol

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

This 💯!

@josephmcree6567

5 ай бұрын

When I first got into swimbaits I fished the Deps 250 and the poppa Pete for a year without success. I finally gave in and bought a hinkle shad on eBay knowing if I made such an extreme purchase I would then force myself to only fish it until I caught something. The first day within 10mins I caught a 6.5 an hour later I caught a 7. After that it’s been a downward spiral. Then I bought 3 back ups in different patterns. Long story long yeah it sucks paying 2x-3x the original price but I’d rather do that than get on a 2-3year waiting list

One day, a man with a massive underbite is driving through Arizona. He stops to ask a local how to get to the hook up tackle. Two years later he’s on a rapala commercial.

I never paid over retail for shoes & I’m not starting with baits. Now if it’s an old discontinued bait that was used & then being resold after a while I might consider it. Fresh just dropped baits straight to resell though, Nope!

Flippers come in many forms. A lot of collectors flip to fuel the collecting. They instantly spend the profit of the flip on more collecting and the obsession. Sometimes its just a way to flip the old into the new or into something else of intrest recently discovered or a strategic move out of economic necessity just to be able to aford collecting.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Agreed

You should pre order directly to the maker, if they stopped making them hit them up to make the lure for you for $500. At least the maker can make the money instead of the flipper

Graphs over expensive boats 😂. If you see a floating log with livescope, it’s probably me.

Ben, Geoff I love you guys I really do. The Hook Up is one of my favorite places upset the wife with. I wholeheartedly agree with you guys about rip offs. I have a few other hobbies where the blatant theft of someone IP is one of the greatest sins, so I was pretty surprised to see how accepted it was in this industry. That being said I do want to push back a little. When you guys are talking about the DoLive Beaver being ripped off by Rapala around 40 min mark you allude to the price difference being because the material used. I feel that is a little misleading, if you look on some Japanese online tackle shops the Beaver and Rapala baits are around the same price. I am a little skeptical that OSP (my fav lure manufacturer) somehow is using super premium plastisol. It seems far more likely the difference in cost is because the lures must be imported. I don't doubt for a second that you OSP, Megabass, Deps, etc isn't higher quality than Berkley or Strike King or whatever but to pretend that most of that price difference isn't because of where the bait is manufactured seems a little disingenuous. All that being said I will still gladly pay to convivence fee to get the lures here in the states.

“The people listening to this are f_ing weird too” 😂 I lost it, I high fived myself and said “got that right !!”

Flippers happen in every industry that has exclusive items. eBay started that trend a very long time ago. I have seen makers raise their prices based on what their flipped bait is getting. There are lists of flippers I’m aware of and many makers won’t sell to them or refund their $ and block them. No idea what is right but they will always be around. I don’t understand how someone buys a bait and won’t use it!!! That drives me crazy😂😂

I wish you’d talk about the KGB Chad Shad / SPRO collaboration. It would be cool to know how that collaboration came about.

Flippers can get wrecked. The point being made that bait makers would be happy about their baits being sold for 2 to 3 times more than they sold it for is insane. That's money not going into their pocket. Bait makers want their baits fished. Flippers kill the market. Taking baits out of the market especially if they are over priced. I agree with Jeff 💯.

So I bought your DRT x THUT baits. I bought 1 TK AND 2 K9’s. I bought the second K9 to flip. But because I’m horrible at making money and I love fishing them, I kept all of them. The idea was to flip and just reduce my costs. Idk, I’m with Ben, I still don’t know how I feel :/

At 48 minutes in this means so much to the culture!

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

👊🍻

I'm aware of a few companies in the swimbait world that keep a running list of known flippers and actively cancel their orders as they are placed during drops. Definitely a controversial topic currently, but I am with Geoff here. More than anything it just seems lame.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Lame - I can see. However, if not for flippers, Geoff likely wouldn’t have been able to buy his hinkle at all. So… 🤷🏼‍♂️

Im 100% with geoff.

I have live scope there’s a lot of times I just turn it off and go fishing. I use my side scan a lot more. 😂 🍻

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Smart 👍. Do you find you catch more without the noise of the livescope?

@timhigdonoutdoors5276

5 ай бұрын

I do catch more without it. I waste to much time chasing around Fish that don’t want to bite. It was a waste 💸💸

i have over 20 lulu's brother Ben, i have some og shorts & pants ive had for 12 years!

I choose to do without verses paying over inflated flipper prices. Remember it is a free market and the consumer has the power of choice. Also a bait makers has the right to refuse service if the know the buyer a notorious flipper. Like Ben said it probably pains them to see it happened but like the demand the flipper generates. In the end they sold the bait for exactly how much they wanted. It is up to the buyer to determine how bad and much they are willing to pay.

The scary thing about cereal is it has TSP in them which is tri sodium phosphate, which is a paint, stripper and cleaner they say it’s a preservative for the cereal.

@rhondaclarke3523

5 ай бұрын

The corn here is sprayed twice ,round-up ready crops .

The Jackhammer is a knock-off that I am very thankful for. Evergreen improved an existing bait and hit a homerun.

Dang, those Biwa Baddies are changing lives 😂

Talking about how the used guitar has some soul and a story to it baits can be a lot like that too! Buying a pointer 100 in a color that won a tournament is cool but buying the one exact pointer 100 that won a tournament would just feel so much better! And it might just have a certain fish catching juju to it lol

@brandonmerideth5450

5 ай бұрын

Also I made it to the end and I don’t mind flipping. Everything in every store is bought in the mind to be sold to make money and for Geoff a flipper is probably the reason he got his hinkle trout was because some guy wanted to flip it your basically paying someone to source this more for you. It’s a lot like the people who flip shoes and jewelry they find it first and the end price is how much it means to the buyer if I buy something to flip but I find out nobody even wants to pay the original asking price then that’s because there is no demand but if I buy a nice bait and some guy at the ramp sees it and offers me twice the original price because he loves the color then I’m going to go and buy some more of those color if I can and hit that guy up to sell him as many as I can lol

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening, and thank you for giving such detailed feedback! I personally agree with your assessment 👍🍻

I think you hit on why many anglers are so against livescope. Costs for the system are through the roof vs a standard side scan. Many have less in their pockets due to inflation. People’s pay increases aren’t matching inflation. I also think brands have been knocking off for a long time . Rattle traps , keitech swimbaits or Senko’s are a good ones to look at. All most every brand has those. I prefer to support the original unless they are lacking a color or something I can’t get. The small companies have to take out patents and enforce them or nothing will change. I have to be honest I did buy the Rapala Osp beaver knock off in black and blue because OSP doesn’t make it and it’s a color I use regularly. Can’t believe OSP doesn’t have that or 4 inch in Junebug regularly in stock. I won’t buy a flipped bait. Don’t need any bait that bad. Lures are just a tool and there are plenty of hammers out there. I thought lululemon was a little girls store. Lol!

I’m from Australia and drt baits can be hard to come by but I’ve almost paid $1000 for a drt ghost so it gets pretty scary throwing it around a special at night so far so good haven’t lost it yet

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

That would be a tough one to lose!

Gotta have frosted flakes 🐅

My only thing is as a normal person and fishermen, the price of things is always a factor. People want ro fish a lure, but people will get elitist with them

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the feedback! What does elitist mean to you in regards to lures?

@Bull_Moose_Lodge

5 ай бұрын

@thehookuptackle_usa for the record I will knock anyone for buying a lure for that price if you can afford it, they are some amazing stuff. Elitist in the sense that, they are things the majority of fishermen can't have. Definitely not saying straight stealing a design is ok, but it gives us a chance to fish these lures that we don't have access to so we can experience of it

I just had what could be a great idea, or a completely terrible idea. Do apple air tag's or whatever those trackers are called survive in water? What if you managed to put one in a hinkle somehow, so if it snapped off, you had a good chance at finding it? Maybe with a magnet to catch the hooks, or something? Might be worth looking into, haha. Dremel a little spot and fill it in maybe. I know that's sketchy for such an expensive bait, but I'm just thinking out loud here.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Geoff would spend so much time with a metal detector and his trolling motor 😂. Good idea!

@DividedWeAllFall

5 ай бұрын

@@thehookuptackle_usa Haha I would get great satisfaction in watching a video of this somehow working 😆

Geoff is right on this one. Flippers arent cool they rob people of the ability to buy a certain product for retail and forced to buy them at their ridiculous prices instead or not have one at all. Which most people that really wanted them cant afford to buy them at those high prices.

Next time please record you swapping out the baits, I think that would go viral 😂

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

I posted it on IG

@rhondaclarke3523

5 ай бұрын

​@@thehookuptackle_usaevidence 😮

My thoughts on flipping are this. If bait makers made more baits it would not be a thing. Also, my next batch of baits I would raise price to meet or exceed flipper prices. Flippers are the worst kind of d-bags in fishing except for knock off companies like Berkeley.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for listening, and thank you for your feedback!

@awesomeozzycat9953

5 ай бұрын

I always swore by the SPRO Lil John. I watched you go to ICAST, and saw them knock off some bait. I haven't even considered buying another Lil John. You turned me on to OSP HPF Spec 2.....holyshit such a better and amazing flatside crankbait. Thank you

I was watching the video and you talked about flippers every bait store owners are flippers essentially just not as high priced as other smaller people it's just about the product and how much your willing to pay for it and if you look at it in the opposite way if you could buy something for half the normal price and it was a good deal so you buy more than you need and someone is willing to give you twice the price you payed would you not sale it to them to get some of your money back?

If you love America and a free market/free enterprise system, you should appreciate "flippers", just sayin'. Love your store and channel.

FLIPPERS- I don’t like the flippers that race the fishermen to a product. I don’t mind the flippers that go store to store, or garage sales and find a deal on a bait to flip. I guess the race aspect is what gets me the most frustrated. If you buy something after plenty of the fishermen had a chance to buy, then go right ahead.

Tough one here. Ben has a point the flipper is giving the maker the money he's asked so no harm but I see Geoffs point kinda screws the angler a little bit. I don't mind so much a little guy doing it but a big box company idk . Again tough one

Glide baits for Muskie been around for ever.

The crazy thing this sport is only going to get more expensive and more rules and regulations are coming I wouldn't be surprised if certain states begin to ban bass fishing

No problem on the use of the southern accent, however that was not even close.

If I was a baitmaker and I'm not, I would care more that I was feeding my family than how my lure was being made. That being said I would prefer the lure was used to catch monsters.

Geoff has a perfect podcast voice.

@thehookuptackle_usa

5 ай бұрын

It’s alright

@MaineYyak

5 ай бұрын

It's not perfect but it'll do 😅

@jordannarlock7995

5 ай бұрын

@@thehookuptackle_usa No offense to Ben Geoff just has that soft calm Fraiser Crane style of talking. Voice acting is in his future