If all these kids would stop buying cocaine I would for sure stop selling cocaine at the school. It's been a huge boon for my bank account. I don't think being addicted to cocaine is bad if it's done right.

@Sniperbear13

5 жыл бұрын

i know what you mean. i sell Cigarettes at a high school, and i make a killing. (for those that don't understand, im being sarcastic.)

@fosphor8920

5 жыл бұрын

Golden comment xD

@victorfine5094

5 жыл бұрын

"they say crack kills, nigga my crack sells"

"If players didn't buy them, they wouldn't be added into future games". That means drugs are great right? I mean, if people didn't buy heroin, it would disapear. Do these people hear themselves?

@Lady_in_Yearning

5 жыл бұрын

The most morbidly funny thing is, with heavy drugs - as horrible as they are - you at least get SOME kind of 'reward' for your wasted money, as in they get you high. Lootboxes? Not even that. You just get a metaphorical extended hand asking for more money and -some virtual junk- sense of pride and accomplishment.

@HanabiraKage

5 жыл бұрын

It's one of those things that's technically true, but the problem is people actually not buying them because the product either causes addiction or everything's been designed so as to encourage purchasing them.

@tomstonemale

5 жыл бұрын

@@Lady_in_Yearning Well technically you do get a "kick" from your brain with games and lootboxes. That's why gambling it's popular and regulated with laws.

@mezmerya5130

5 жыл бұрын

well. if people ruined only their lives because of drugs, they would be legal. because adult person may ruin his own life as he wants. drugs are antisocial concept by its criminal nature, not because government cares about your addiction. it's your own life after all. and by the same reasons gambling is legal. if you gamble you money you are just broke. you wont go kill people for a doze. go try to compare drugs to roulette, not at yt, but at court, where it matters.

@Foxhound94

5 жыл бұрын

@@Lady_in_Yearning you get a rush from lootboxes, it's the same rush you get when you put that coin in the slot machine and pull the lever. That rush is what keeps you going and want more.

_''YoU cAn AlWaYs NoT bUy ThEm''_ You can always not implement them, ya gigantic arseholes!

@liwendiamond9223

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, the proper answer is "Ah yes! Thank you for reminding me I shouldn't buy your games, ever." And they you walk away and never touch a Triple A title ever again. Well, unless it's something actually good, like say the new God of War.

@sinteleon

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, but asking them not to implement them infringes on their rights! I mean, other than the rights they should not have had to implement gambling mechanics without regulations of course.

@ArmchairMagpie

5 жыл бұрын

"You can always not buy them!" sounds like a confident answer from someone who believes that not everyone will pick up on that suggestion - which may as well be true, believes that the few who do pick up on that suggestion don't matter and that the whole model is too big to fail in general. In other words it's just another way of saying "Our army of addicts disagree with you! What ya gonna do about it, huh, snowflake?"

@liwendiamond9223

5 жыл бұрын

@Reyvyn Nightveil Terrible analogy. Alcohol and drugs are for the most part heavily regulated already. You can't sell booze to a minor for example, and there are strict laws regarding who and where drugs can be sold, because these are dangerous and often addictive products that need the supervision of a pharmacist and other medical professionals. Also, alcoholics shouldn't be buying alcohol, because they are prone to addiction. This is called common sense.

@claudiuspulcher2440

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, but they want to implement them. Do you want to buy them? If not, just don't. The real shittiness is when they implant them in a game after launch.

Referring to high-rolling gamblers as “whales” was common in the casino industry years before the gaming industry latched onto the term. I’m surprised that Jim doesn’t call out that explicit connection.

@xenrusxenomorph2268

5 жыл бұрын

JosieJOK I didn’t even know that

I miss being upset about day one dlc or season passes.

@dennishiestermann3055

5 жыл бұрын

It's crazy to think that those days are something we now miss and all in just a couple of years.

@Alexander-rk4cu

5 жыл бұрын

i miss the days we complain about horse-armor DLC

@adambuckingham5231

5 жыл бұрын

Or Disc locked content.

@soundslave

5 жыл бұрын

I miss other people besides me being angry about post-release charges.

@utisti4976

5 жыл бұрын

Same. I miss those days. :(

I can't say AAA like a normal person anymore, thanks Jim.

@EmissaryofWind

5 жыл бұрын

Mom: what kind of batteries do we need Me: Triple *AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*

@bificommander7472

5 жыл бұрын

"Eagle 1 to base, we're entering the mission area and are preparing our bombing run." "Base to Eagle 1, be advised, recon suggests the enemy has reinforced your missions area with additional triple AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-" "Eagle one to base, signal is unclear, please repeat." "-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-" "Eagle one to base, can't *BOOM* Shit! Enemy flak, Eagle 2 is down! I repeat, Eagle 2 is- *KSSSSHHHHH*"

@MelodicQuest

5 жыл бұрын

The AAA games industry can't be taken seriously anymore so why should we pretend that it can be?

@VarHyid

5 жыл бұрын

BROKER: Sir, you could invest in corporate bonds, the return rates may vary and in general the risk varies based on the corporation's financial rating. Would you be interested in investing in corporations with a BBB+ rating or which ratings would you generally accept? ME: Triple AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

@darthonyx

5 жыл бұрын

"Crap I have a flat tire and no spare. Better call TRIPLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA."

Corporations CANNOT self-regulate. They are BY DESIGN focused solely on acquiring as much money as possible by whatever means are available. Only the threat of repercussions- of their actions being punished in some way, shape or form, and costing them money- will dissuade them.

@ddshocktrooper5604

5 жыл бұрын

The hilarious shit is they're more capable of self-regulating if the head of the company is hereditary rather than appointed by shareholders. Because they actually have incentive to keep long term consequences in mind and don't shit the bed because they'll be gone in 5 years time.

@TheDireLynx

5 жыл бұрын

even then you have to make the punishment big enough, or otherwise companies will take the fines and punishments and change nothing about what they're doing because it's still a net profit (i.e. like with the pharmaceutical industry in the US)

@sentinel7672

3 жыл бұрын

@@ddshocktrooper5604 Quite literally this. I've heard a few stories about companies in various industries that lost their souls after becoming publicly traded. Hilariously enough, EA's one of the best examples I can think of. If you believe the stories, EA got its name because their founder believed that video games would become a new art form and EA was founded to allow devs to be proper artists. After a few bad experiences with certain dev teams, EA decided it'd be better to have in house dev studios. EA Sports was both the first EA subsidiary studio and the seed of corruption that'd eventually turn EA into, as Jim calls it, "Unicronic Arts." See, the man who was head of EA Sports was a greedy, wealth-obsessed man that did some of the earliest cutthroat publisher BS, specifically signing exclusive deals with sports organizations for the sole right to make games based around those sports. Eventually (if memory serves) when the founder left, the head of EA Sports was chosen by the board to replace him and he made the modern EA tactics the company's standard business practices.

As aside note: the term “Whale” comes from the gambling industry. So if video game companies are saying “ loot boxes” aren’t “gambling”, why use terms from the gambling industry to describe some players? 😉

@PhyreI3ird

5 жыл бұрын

Do you have a source for that? That'd be a pretty juicy tool in the arsenal.

@anikmonette2140

5 жыл бұрын

I've had a mental break down today but since your question was rhetorical I can skip it without putting any thoughts on it... For now. But if i could make any attempt at answering it I'd say they don't care about consistency. Or ethic. Or efforts. Or anything anymore(yeah, not being feeling my best today, sheesh!)

@timothyfuller683

5 жыл бұрын

I see someone else has been "adulting" in hardcore mode recently. True, the amount of f^@ks given by the execs at big companies in general are roughly zero. Add the fact that this business practice is bringing in metric tons of money to them, I imagine various scenes from the movie "The Wolf of Wall Street" are playing out across AAA gaming company board rooms everywhere. At any given time. Good luck with the break!

Lootboxes are done right when they aren't there.

@MazeFrame

5 жыл бұрын

Terraria spawns chests in the world that sometimes contain useful stuff. Those are nice.

@jordannoell4222

5 жыл бұрын

Lootboxes aren't bad if they are a part of randomized loot system in which it is designed to be grinded for as opposed to being paid for.

@nabuchodonosormcgalapatram6941

5 жыл бұрын

@@jordannoell4222 _Paid_ loot boxes. I should've precise...

@rendomstranger8698

5 жыл бұрын

@@Aleara27 Meh, even random unpaid lootboxes are rarely done correctly. Most of the time, it just replaces balancing. Lootboxes and the like should be balanced in such a way that they change your playstyle, with no clearly superior option. In other words, lootboxes should follow the example of Binding of Isaac, FTL, Don't starve and other roguelites, but potentially without the roguelite aspect.

@ghb323

5 жыл бұрын

Jordan noell agreed. RPG games, minecraft’s randomized items you get from a randomized world (chest, mobs, etc) are FUN to grind and encourage players to play. EA’s fifa 19, encourage to pay. Let’s play indie games and board games, at least they’re not so heavy on your wallet.

Really respect that Jim’s sticking to this. No compromise, micro transactions do not belong in these games and have been toxic since they first came about.

@FhtagnCthulhu

5 жыл бұрын

Same. I haven't always liked Jim's style personally, or even agreed with him on many things. However, I feel like this is something truly important and his insistence on the pressing issue has done a lot to keep other people talking about it as well. Just because things have been bad for a while and are getting worse doesn't mean we should stop demanding good.

@alexspencer4147

5 жыл бұрын

Mr.Aptronym yeah I think it’s so important to keep this conversation going

Anecdotal, but I knew someone who spent $15,000 in Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes. When I asked him why he kept buying crystals and packs in that game, he said he was just exhausted by the grind of it and by the time he'd sunk in a decent amount of money, he figured he was in too deep to stop and wanted to keep going until he got everything. The playerbase for grindy f2p games like that even adopt the terms 'whale', 'kraken', 'dolphin', etc and wear them as a badge of honor on Reddit or official community forums. It's disgusting. Anyone who tries to play microtransactions as "optional" and "player choice" fails to mention the *fact* that these kinds of microtransactions fundamentally alter the core design of games (hence why so many games need rebalancing once they've been removed). The focus always seems to be on protecting children from exploitative gambling mechanics, which is important, sure, but it's an issue for adults, too. Exploitative practices aren't acceptable in free-to-play games, and they should definitely not be acceptable in $60+ premium games. What Jim has said time and time again stands true- if a company making and selling games can't make and sell games and make their money back, why are they in this industry?

@am_ssslhkjgbkiduvgjbbknovd6170

5 жыл бұрын

Patrick ikr I agree

Driving a car is optional, but most of us need a car in order to get to a job (There is no public transportation in my area). Loot Boxes are optional, but we all know they tailor the game around the loot boxes to throttle back the entertainment until we inevitably give in.

@Zangelin

5 жыл бұрын

Not true at all in a lot of games.

@climatebreakdownpodcast1990

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I had something in my throat, I meant to say climate change. Thank god for Jim! I was happy to replay that part.

@claudiuspulcher2440

5 жыл бұрын

Except you may need a job to eat but do not need a video game to live.

@climatebreakdownpodcast1990

5 жыл бұрын

@@claudiuspulcher2440 The point he is making is that in either case the system has been purposefully broken so that you'll buy the "solution" that the designer wants to sell to you. Just because you don't need a game to live doesn't mean that it isn't shitty and greedy behaviour, or that you can't complain about something you otherwise enjoy being purposefully fucked with. The consequences are less dire than the oil and automotive industries buying politicians who underfund mass transit, but the idea is the same.

@lightningrodofh8509

5 жыл бұрын

@@claudiuspulcher2440 I've never heard of a store that doesn't try and sell anything. If games have stores, they will try and push you to spending money in them. That means designing the game to subtly push you towards spending money in said store. When you buy a game, it's reasonable to expect an entertaining gaming experience, not a playable commercial you just paid $60+ for.

How to make microtransactions optional: Don't include them. How to make lootboxes fair: Don't include them. How to actually make money: Make good games and probably make sure they reach a large part of the population. Do games even get localized to a majority of the planet? Or would that cost money? Holy crap, that's a lotta upvotes. Of course, Free to play mechanics are fine in a free to play game (who would have guessed) if they are not free to wait anyways. But we all know the TripleAids Industry will never even consider making Free to play games, as they are forever hounded by their shareholders and their own greed.

@thedrake5072

5 жыл бұрын

@Adam Thompson well that technically falls under including them. Though just a little more scummy.

@Alex-bx1tw

5 жыл бұрын

I dont mind the way some "Indie" f2p titles like Warframe monetise their games via microtransactions

@rolfs2165

5 жыл бұрын

​@@thedrake5072 IMO, microtransactions are okay *in f2p games*. Warframe has the best model here - you know exactly what you're buying, it's either purely cosmetic or can also be acquired by playing the game, and you can trade with other players to earn Platinum (the pay-for currency) without having to spend a single penny yourself. Microtransactions in pay2play games can be okay if it's purely cosmetic stuff and reasonably priced (like the costume packs for Mass Effect). And to be fair, I'm only letting Bioware get away with it because a) each crew member had their fancy loyalty skin which you got by playing, and one bought skin which was more like a palette swap of their default skin, and b) they didn't advertise it in-game, you had to go to their website to find and buy them (and c) I bought the games dirt cheap with all story DLC in a Steam/Origin sale, so in the end I still paid less than the retail price). The bought skins didn't even show up in the outfit selection until you had them. If they did a remake, where all this stuff gets put into a shop on the citadel that you have to walk past every time you're there, and get spam mail from to your terminal after every other mission, then I'd say fuck them with a cactus.

@mikavituhandle

5 жыл бұрын

@Adam Thompson isnt Fucktivision already doing this with CoD? patching the loot boxes a bit later after the game released?

@tee_es_bee

5 жыл бұрын

It's funny that localization was mentioned. I live in a small market of the Czech Republic (10M people). A while back most triple AAA products got not only subtitles, but were even dubbed. Now, it is a common occurrence that localization is sponsored by local game eshops or crowd sourced for even large AAA titles.

*DO YOU GUYS NOT HAVE A GAMBLING PROBLEM!?*

@elexceer6226

5 жыл бұрын

christop17 I do

@lauripeuhkurinen7880

5 жыл бұрын

I have a problem with gambling. Would that do?

@RAFMnBgaming

5 жыл бұрын

No, but like Jim i'm worried because i have somewhat of an addictive personality.

@Unrealbr

5 жыл бұрын

Not a gambling problem but anxiety and an addictive personality. It's tough as shit to stay away from lootboxes. That's why I don't play games with lootboxes

@GGamersUnited

5 жыл бұрын

People do, that's the problem. lol Joke is still funny btw.

I think I've started to realise why Jim gets so many people desperately arguing against his points all the time: It's not because people don't like him as a person, or even that people dislike his style of presentation or the topics he covers... People argue against him because _he's always right but we all wish he wasn't._ He's like the doomsday prophet on the street corner who turns out to be bang on the money! We wish everything Jim said was bollocks, that the game industry wasn't an ever-growing pile of festering maggot ridden shite. But he speaks truth, every damn video, and we hate being faced with that truth. Thank god for Jim.

@metallicafan352

5 жыл бұрын

I thank God for Jim everyday day. Twice on Mondays.

@hamzaayaz7482

5 жыл бұрын

@@metallicafan352 Does this remind you of persona 4?

@metallicafan352

5 жыл бұрын

@@hamzaayaz7482 maybe a bit.

@Bacxaber

5 жыл бұрын

I've briefly talked to Jim, he's nice. He defended my right to have an opinion against rabid Undertale fans, even though he disagreed with my opinion. Furthermore, Jim _is_ right about a lot of things. That said, I personally don't like his style of presentation at all.

@ShadowDRGN

5 жыл бұрын

@@Bacxaber I agree. He's rarely ever moderate on the situation, a lot of his opinions come down to: "Consumer good, corporation bad." without really addressing the agency of the consumer in agreeing or disagreeing in the business practice of a corporation, or otherwise sustaining it or deincentivizing it. When people are subjected to a constant stream of negative feedback, people are going to want to push back because that degree of negativity feels too unnatural to be true. I don't disagree with Jim, but the following I believe is a nuance of this issue that he consistently doesn't address or attempts to shut down. In this video he talks about "whales" as a dehumanizing term for people who either have too much money than they know what to do with or people with addictive personality traits without addressing that both of these groups of people have agency. I agree with that statement, it's some pretty nasty corporate jargon, but where I don't agree is when Jim says that pointing out that these practices wouldn't be put in if people didn't pay into them is bullshit. That's how capitalism works. Whatever makes money is the strategy of the day. If it doesn't make money, why bother? Yes, only a very small fraction of the playerbase pays for lootboxes, but wouldn't those people have the *power* to decide how profitable these practices are? I get for people with addiction problems this isn't easy and I don't really blame them for this, but for the people who have the money to just drop 1000's on loot boxes in a game, where is their responsibility in this? Apparently to Jim, they aren't responsible. Corporation bad, consumer good. This isn't a deflection of how horrid these practices are, I am of the firm belief that it's not doublethink to hold the opinions that corporations are responsible for keeping their businesses ethical while consumers are responsible for not feeding into unethical business practices to prevent incentivizing them to publishers. Both of these opinions have the space to be talked about simultaneously, it's fallacious to think that you can't put both of them into practice and ask people to vote with their wallets while you condemn the practices of the corporation, and it's *especially* fallacious to believe that anyone who makes this point is automatically a corporate shill bot because Ubisoft used the same logic and twisted it into a shitty defense. I'll add further that I believe *we*, as consumers, have the responsibility to not even buy games that have these practices in them if we want them to be gone. Again, we can hold this belief at the same time as lambasting corporate greed, that's on them, this is on us. We might not contribute to the loot box profits as much as "whales", but if we as a majority don't play these games, "whales" won't have a reason to play a dead game, either, and won't have a reason to spend money. I believe this is a good short-term solution to the loot box/microtransaction problem in multiplayer games while we wait for regulation to sweep up the gunk festering within the industry.

When did regulation become a bad word? It's meant to protect the consumer, not the business.

@sebastiankrant2738

5 жыл бұрын

Depends on culture. Generally speaking, many very market-liberal cultures prefer no/absolut minimum regulation, as its in the spirit of the free economics. Many more socially economic countries (mostly around europe, as it originated mostly in central europe) are more open to them. Keep in mind that much of the game industry both in revenue and production is US-centered - one of the most economically liberal countries in the world. It also has a culture that makes the problems of to much regulation (lack of competition, inventivness and investment, hampering of buisnesses) seem worse than a culture of a country like France would see them: They value individual freedom and choice a lot, independence is written in their history and culture and the idea of the american dream is ingrained in the culture. Someone - I forgot whome - described it as "a country of millonaires and temporarily emberassed millonaires". So they fear that a regulation or measurement (like taxes for the rich) that might not affect them now can affect them in the future. Depending on your point of view that can be seen as naive, but also as hopefull and strong. Point is - with such a culture, a very independent market is of course desired. Finally, keep in mind that historicly they not only never really had many movements in terms of regulation, but also were far away from europe, when they spread through it. Another reason with gaming to keep in mind - as said in the video, the laws havent caught up. It is still relativly free of regulation and so not really used to it. Of course, any industry dislikes regulation (and therefore fights to ingrain that in others as well) and to much regulation might be harmfull, though in this case I dont really see that fear coming true. The lack of regulation causes far more harm in my eyes than even overregulation could do and the idea that regulation would instantly overreach is already ludicrous. But I am german, not american, so again, it depends on the culture.

@wolfieinu

5 жыл бұрын

@@markcobuzzi826 I'd add the major problem with over-regulation: major corporations make it work for them by gaming the system. Regulations are lobbied for and phrased in such a way as to hamper their opposition, but not themselves. Thus, they can abuse regulations to enable monopolies & cartels. E.g.: Google proposing "Net Neutrality" to hamstring their opposition's bandwidth & connection speed, while Google itself has its own separate infrastructure & has therefore effectively made it illegal to compete with them.

@bobmcbobbington9220

5 жыл бұрын

A lot of manipulation out there to make sure people don't vote or think in their best interests. Unions are bad. Regulations are bad. Climate change is a lie (which is literally saying you don't care about the planet you live on). Taxes on wealthy are bad. Voting rights bad. Super Pacs good. Immigration bad. Populism good. Walls good. Holding police accountable bad. Businesses are people now. Freedom of the press bad. Etc. All stuff 5 minutes with a history book would dismiss, but that's 5 minutes too many for a lot of people.

@fieldy409

5 жыл бұрын

A lot of people, Americans especially have been convinced that governments are incompetent by default and any and all regulation is bad and a waste of money.

@SamuelWellsZahn

5 жыл бұрын

It's not even that, it's that they believe, from a default, that any effort by the government to govern responsibly is evil and doomed to fail.

I was legitimately shocked to see that Twitch has a Casino channel where you can watch people who own online casinos gamble and advertise their online casino deals. Seems as though it's becoming scarily normalised.

@SirusDiarota

5 жыл бұрын

Could argue it's joining the late night casino channels or the global poker coverage rather than a "normalising" there, but I haven't heard of that before now so clearly I don't have the full picture.

@elwisfromcz

5 жыл бұрын

Things with online casinos is that there is much stricter legislative and control by state. For example in the country Im currently in, only few of them are allowed (including sports betting sites) and document verification is needed - if you are local, which Im not, you also will be checked for unpaid taxes, fines or low salary.

@JaymeSplendid

5 жыл бұрын

I thought they stopped all of that a few years ago? Like, didn't they say only video games can be showcased? They put an end to people trying to do cooking shows and that was the reason they gave, along with all that hoopla with skin betting too... They said they were going to stop that right? I don't watch twitch anymore so...

@SirusDiarota

5 жыл бұрын

@@JaymeSplendid I doubt you missed the "rise of the IRL streamer", but no Twitch hasn't been "games only" for a while now. As evident by the Bob Ross marathons, as well as the aforementioned people walking around getting cringe worthy moments due to the mistake of allowing TTS donations or music suggestions.

@rolfs2165

5 жыл бұрын

I wish Germany would regulate online (and videogame) gambling properly. Unfortunately, gambling authorities are responsibility of the federal states, with no central authority for online stuff. Which is just great, because companies will claim the state with the weakest (i.e. basically none) regulation of online gambling is responsible, and there's nothing you can do.

to be fair, WarnerBros asking for money to stop a kid being strangled, is one of the funniest things I've ever heard of.

@GGamersUnited

5 жыл бұрын

it's funny and super evil at the same time.

Back when I was in high school they altered the school lunch program and the food became disgusting and everyone complained. Then one day someone started going around to classrooms and writing "dont eat school lunch" on the boards. Then others joined the cause and within 2 weeks only about half the people were eating school lunch. The school lost so much money within a month that they had to lay people off and held an assembly to beg us to eat school lunch again. Moral of the story: sometimes you just need a few to make something into a public campaign to reach a larger market and make an actual impact. I think it's about time the gaming industry had a taste of this

@theALTF4

5 жыл бұрын

HEY, that's very cool! so... did they changed the menu like you wanted? But back to the video's issue: i think more than just "vote with your wallet" the real solution is to inform the casual gamer (the dolphins & whales) about why this practises are bad... we trow so much sheit over them for supporting companies, that we tend to forget they're not soaked in the gaming world, and thus, they're easily exploitable

@kutsumiru

5 жыл бұрын

I doubt they changed it back School food across the US became disgusting under Michelle Obama's push for "healthy choices" in school lunches turned law

@clblanchard08

5 жыл бұрын

@@kutsumiru Dude, school lunches tasted like trash way before that. I'm 40 and they were always shit. There's no way Michelle Obama could have made them worse unless she made them serve nothing but rice cakes and kale.

@RePeLSTeeLTJe--

5 жыл бұрын

This is exactly the reason i stopped buying AAA games along with a few friends. I'd rather die replaying the Only 2 Halo's on PC alongside Skyrim then support these borderline-nazi practices big companies pull off.

@wojtektaracinski7977

5 жыл бұрын

...except that wouldn't change anything, and only hurt those who weren't responsible. Think about it: when people start to "vote with their wallets" and stop buying games, will it hurt the corporate heads? Hell no. They will still got their cut, on way or another, since they couldn't give less of a shit even if you sewn their assholes shut But to cut the costs, they will simply start to fire people, meaning that thousands employed in video game industry would lose their jobs. As Jim pointed out, they make an obscene amount of money already, so drop in sales wouldn't hurt them as much.

Unregulated greed is a hell of a thing.

@cream_soda

5 жыл бұрын

@@AverageJoe8686 Well that was some glorious nonsense. In case you actually believe this copypasta, the ARC fusion reactor is still theoretical (nobody has actually built even a prototype yet), and "depleted uranium fusion reactors" is complete fiction. Maybe you're thinking of breeder reactors based on the description, but those are far from risk-free, and are relatively common. Also, what exactly are you trying to say with those solar calculations at the beginning? Assuming all those numbers are real, you're just showing that going 100% solar means we convert more solar energy to electricity than is being used to warm the planet. That's not even an argument for or against solar.

@julianlak1017

5 жыл бұрын

+AverageJoe8686 I've always wondered how mass solar or wind power would affect the planet, it's certainly not "free power" . Your comment puts into maths what I've been thinking. Green energy has other costs which no one talks about.

Honestly, any kind of microtransaction should qualify a game for a Mature rating.

@philippn.743

5 жыл бұрын

^ this

@damanamathos

5 жыл бұрын

That's one way to kill Fortnite.

@nhagan001

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. That was the reason that the “coffee break” from GTA San Andreas got slapped with Adult Only because it has sex in it. You want to do something that only adults should be doing (gambling, sex is not the issue this time), then you get regulated like an adult.

@666Tomato666

5 жыл бұрын

@@damanamathos you say... like it's a bad thing?

@KitLecleir

5 жыл бұрын

Honestly, it needs a different rating. 50% of what's on the shelves for Xbox is already rated M. How would that make it stand out?

If gamers didn't buy loot boxes for a particular release, the publisher wouldn't stop using them, they would make them more essential to having any fun

@TheTattorack

5 жыл бұрын

nagchampa They'd call the game a failure because it didn't make the projected returns, then make lootboxes more essential or attractive in the next game.

@flexsealman7096

5 жыл бұрын

HA...fun.

@blaiscallies4986

5 жыл бұрын

See. Blizzard Entertainment in response to Destiny 2 microtransactions not making much money, their plan? "We will push the microtransactions more aggressively in the future."

@grubbybum3614

5 жыл бұрын

Wtf is Jim implying? Cigarettes should be banned? How about we ban sugar and saturated fats?

@elu9780

5 жыл бұрын

@@grubbybum3614 sugar and saturated fats are important for our bodies. Their excess is what's bad. The same can't be said for cigs.

I still remember stealing money for microtransactions from parents, from _other people_ when i was a teen to keep up with so called "online friends'" progress in an mmorpg game, more than a decade ago. Now a full working adult, I'm so proud to see people finally getting aware and standing up against these manipulative, these _evil_ monetization practices that's now rampant on phones, even on premium full priced games. Still took you more than a decade to realize things though.

@Cyfrik

5 жыл бұрын

There's one point you're raising there, that I think not enough people have talked about - peer pressure, and keeping up with other players. When I was in elementary school, Habbo Hotel was a Big Deal among a lot of kids. I never even tried it, because I was deterred by the microtransactions. But according to what I heard from a lot of other people, the community of that game had cosmetics as a major status symbol. People who didn't buy decorations, outfits, and so on were regarded as a lower class, as inferior to those who bought such items. I remember that a lot of people were telling similar stories to yours, about stealing money from family, asking parents to buy virtual currency as birthday presents, and so on, just because they didn't want to feel left out. Peer pressure alone probably resulted in more microtransaction purchases than any advertising the game itself provided. Because of this type of stuff, it's not only the corporations that need to learn to act responsibly (even though they are obviously the biggest issue). The gaming community itself also needs to straighten up, and learn to stop gatekeeping and bullying each other.

@redice907

5 жыл бұрын

​@@Cyfrik You don't even have to be actively shunned for not buying microtransactions. You just have to be present, around other people, buying said microtransactions and competing who gets the most items of the new set by _chance_ in the new lootbox. While you, not having more money cause you spent it last month, is sitting there, in your "so last season" cosmetics, left out. Remember the cod game where lootboxes fall in normandy beach? Basically what that is trying to achieve, except in mmorpgs, where skins, pets and mounts is much more important than useless gun skins. And those are just the "cosmetics" part. Exp boosts, drop boosts, the infamous _enhancement boosts,_ the staple of any p2w, is where you will really feel the pressure.

The worse insult is that there are real people out there who do not work for these companies or anything but passionately defend these kind of bullshit practices like it's actually for the betterment of us consumers when it's so blatantly not. It's horrifying when you think about how many people there are out in the world who are brainwashed to look fondly or even "neutrally" about these shits. And the sad thing is that most (if not all) of these people don't even realize it. Even if you tell them.

@animorph17

5 жыл бұрын

Dude, we call them Trump voters. They don't just see these practices as normal and acceptable, they want these companies in government positions directly controlling your life.

@Zangelin

5 жыл бұрын

I just like gambling man. It's fun. Just gain some self control and stop victimizing yourselves.

@noonenowhere877

5 жыл бұрын

I choose to believe all those people work for the corporations they defend...better for humanity to be self-serving than stupid.

@noonenowhere877

5 жыл бұрын

@@Zangelin The gambling industry is heavily monitored though. You're basically suggesting going skydiving without a parachute.

@animorph17

5 жыл бұрын

@No one Nowhere ... a man in florida was hospitalized for quills piercing through his crotch, because he'd tried to have sex with a wild porcupine. And failed at it. Reality disagrees with your beliefs.

I think I found the perfect comeback to the "It's optional" argument - give us an option to download a version without Microtransactions!

Since there are so many people who tell you to stop talking about this, I now feel the need to just say "keep going! Keep their feet on the fire, keep reminding people that this is not what gaming should be and that we shouldn't be accepting this! We won't stop talking about this until the gaming industry stops shoving it into our games!"

@neferacronia6798

5 жыл бұрын

Keep their feet to the fire until they're forced to stand on charred stumps

@MrBizteck

5 жыл бұрын

Amen

@joshuastoughton9444

5 жыл бұрын

Corporations arent going to quit putting shit you dont want in games until you quit buying the game. You cant just buy the game but not buy the microtransactions, as a business guy that's exactly what we want. Game corporations want as many people who will buy the games to buy it, and as many people who are willing to spend extra money on microtransactions. Every game sold is additional revenue, every successful microtransaction is icing on the cake. You want companies to quit churning ouut shit products, then quit buying the shit and blaming the whales who buy a larger percentage of shit. I used to be anti-microtransactions but after years of watching stupid consumers continue buying shit, well at this point I am rooting for the corporations to take advantage as much as they can of morons completely incapable of self control or making an informed purchase, and some are so delusional they think corporations actually care about them. LOL fucking idiots you deserve the shit you buy.

@Ech0mancer

5 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate

@jackvernian7779

5 жыл бұрын

they're counting on you giving up talking.

Drug lord: My business is perfectly legal! If people don't want to die or have their lives ruined by my drugs, then *STOP BUYING THEM!* Triple A Industry: PREECH BROTHER PREECH!

I remember when I was kid arguing with my parents to let me play games which considered violent (Doom, Half-Life, Resident Evil). I really feel sorry for kids nowadays!

@Zangelin

5 жыл бұрын

uhm.. why?

@adiveler

5 жыл бұрын

@@Zangelin They need to convince their parents to let them play video games that have some gambling mechanic in them!

@bobmcbobbington9220

5 жыл бұрын

These days the parents are addicted to gaming (and their phones) as much as the kids. The kids don't stand a chance when their dad's a self imposed man-child. I think we need more studies to show that this lootbox stuff impacts people of all ages so we can dismiss some preconceived notions.

@elocfreidon

5 жыл бұрын

Its mostly women who play mobile games, so specifically targeting fathers and calling them man-children is a way to shut people off from the conversation.

@danielwalker8259

5 жыл бұрын

Unraveler Don’t feel sorry for them, those little shits other one is keeping the shit around

I spent most of 2018 in rehab for opiate addiction. In a completely related story, I also have spent over $6,000 on Bejeweled Blitz in my lifetime. Sober from opiates since January. Sober from Bejeweled since July. This shit IS gambling.

@robbi5449

5 жыл бұрын

6000 ???? wow. Something must be off with you. Opium I understand.... but spending cash on iaps ??? stupidity i guess... Instead of iaps, spend that 6000 on cigaretts... theyre harmful to our health the same way. Dont do drugs.... but its better to do drugs than to give your money to thieving corporations. Drugs go in your own body at least, so its money well spent.... iaps money go into an unknown rich fat fuck's 4th yacht. He already has 7 ferraris and 3 yachts...why help him get another one ? ... while you drive a ... bicycle.... or a Vauxhall

@DragonSpikeXIII

5 жыл бұрын

Imagine being this dumb

@Aneas10

5 жыл бұрын

Congrats on getting sober.

@decimal1156

5 жыл бұрын

Congrats on getting sober. Some of us just have an addictive personality. You'll need to find a hobby or "addiction" that is good for you. From personal experience, I'd recommend exercise or a productive hobby. In my case, screenplay writing I enjoy quite a bit, even if nothing will ever come of it. Stay safe my dude!

@robbi5449

5 жыл бұрын

@The Goddamn Batman thats all true and dandy. Then the other side of the coin : she had extra 6k to waste not to mention the cash to spend on opiates. Some people with tons of money dont know how to spend it well.... while most people struggle to get by day by day... lets say with a 1000 euro salary per month. Good luck wasting loads of money in that scenario. Pure and simple, she had tons of money availeble and she fucked it up.

When you gotta make those corporate analysts' expectations, companies start to do anything I guess.

@ThatOneGuy7550

5 жыл бұрын

LATE STAGE CAPITALISM

@Dave-qz4ov

5 жыл бұрын

Omnipresence

@cliffturbo2146

5 жыл бұрын

I honestly thought you're dead, Justin.

@astraldragon5483

5 жыл бұрын

when mentally ill investor's/publishers with irrational greed have unsustainable expectations and fail to stop pissing off consumers, it's always been time to support indie devs i guess.

@pjspriteanimations4905

5 жыл бұрын

Jesus? Is that you?!

seems like a good excuse for drug cartels. drugs are good for business and you know... they are optional! you don't have to buy them.

@schregen

5 жыл бұрын

Drug cartels like Anheuser-Busch, Heineken or Diageo use much more subtle methods. They have decades of experience in lying and killing people.

@greenhowie

5 жыл бұрын

You don't have to buy 'em now, but you gotta pay up...

Scam emails and popups wouldnt exist if people stopped clicking them. Yet those arent pretending to be anything legitimate... yet here we are.

That's the problem with the logical fallacy known as "argumentum ad nauseam" : one repeats an already addressed argument (in this case that would be the "it's optional" excuse) again, and again, and again, always ignoring the rebuttal, until opposition gets sick and gives up. It can be used as a marketing strategy as much as a rhetorical one, and it's heavily dishonest either way as it's a way to appear as having a stronger and unchallenged argument without doing anything. Why do i point this out ? When faced with an ad nauseam fallacy, it's important to never give up to it. Can be tiring, but the alternative would be letting the argument win over listeners and the "it's optional" excuse win over all hearts once more.

@xj0462

5 жыл бұрын

@@sgtsnokeem1139 what does "gaslight" mean in the context you useing it in?

@asperchu1275

5 жыл бұрын

That makes so much sense.... "It's optional" "It's just cosmetic" "It's so they don't raise game prices" and "it's chance, it's not gambling, it's the same as trading cards" are things I have heard for so long now I'm just sick of it. When I see people use these excuses now it simply enrages me. There's is no excuse for their blatant....Stupidiy? Blind loyalty? Denial? Ignorance? Am I just getting old is this what that feels like? Well I'm not sure what their logic behind defending these predatory practices is really but it's got to stop, enough is enough.

@Crispman_777

5 жыл бұрын

@@xj0462 It's the whole "I didn't say that! You're putting words in my mouth!" even when everyone can see on the same comment thread that they did. It's pretty common especially if you start talking to someone who has some... iffy... ideas on particular hot topics (like race/climate change etc.).

@playre6304

5 жыл бұрын

@@matthewellis6516 the blaming doesn't matter at all,what is important is what to regulate and where to stop regulating,specially when kids(that generally are dumb by default)are involved. Regarding the card thing,it wasn't the same context-wise to me at least.That type of thing was way more difficult to get without the permission of an adult and also reducted to whatever fad was in your school at the time,whereas now kids are bombarded constantly whith millions of different online multiplayer games.

@oddchild1

5 жыл бұрын

@matthew ellisthank you for the bullshit whataboutism. Your post doesn't actually address nor refute the point of the argument and merely tries to deflect. What I want to know is; what Stockholm syndrome brainwashing motivates you to defend these exploitative business practices?

Jim, Valve's upcoming card game Artifact has probably the scummiest monetization I've seen in a video game. Somehow this is going through without anyone talking about it , probably cause Valve isn't advertising it too much. Game costs 20$ you get 10 card packs and 5 tickets. Tickets are used and consumed for some game modes and cost 1$ per ticket, card packs can't be earned by playing and cost 2$ per card pack. Basically after the initial price most of the game is still locked behind a paywall. In Steams market place you can sell cards so Valve is actually couraging ppl to gamble giving them a place to sell their winnings.

@jackmcgwire2078

5 жыл бұрын

Wattur that's really bad you should go to jim's subreddit and repost your comment

@devilgames2217

5 жыл бұрын

Activisions wet dream and future.

@weeabootrash329

5 жыл бұрын

Wattur - Sounds like any other digital/physical card game out there! Dunno how card games aren't considered gambling but I'm sure someone can come up with a damn good reason to why everyone ignores it! Trading card game... Perhaps, just maybe! You can buy individual cards on the market. Therefore eliminating the need to buy card packs over and over gain. Not saying it can't be addicting but it sure as hell isn't as predatory with that secondary option available to you!

@Jessica-el5yx

5 жыл бұрын

And considering this was the choice of the employees at VALVe... What were they thinking?

@coreylineberry8557

5 жыл бұрын

At least other TCG games are free.

Drugs aren't that bad if they're done right too.

@hansmahr8627

5 жыл бұрын

I mean people literally abuse medication that allows People in massive pain to live a life that's not dictated by pain, some start for that reason, to self medicate

@hamzaayaz7482

5 жыл бұрын

Coffee is a drug too, you know.

@schregen

5 жыл бұрын

Murder and torture aren't that bad, if they're done right.

@crazyluigi6664

5 жыл бұрын

Which are good? Which are bad?

@greenhowie

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. If the only games with lootboxes were rated 18+ (or whatever gambling laws say where you are) then it would be fine and legal. Much like getting a back injury, then claiming opiates for months and months afterwards is fine and legal.

Don't put these companies in cages. Put them down. All of them.

@iron1349

5 жыл бұрын

Let the workers run them

@mohammedsarker5756

5 жыл бұрын

@@iron1349 I'm a huge supporter for cooperatives and unions so I second this so so much

@williamjacobs8105

5 жыл бұрын

Your parents should have put you down.

@dill899

5 жыл бұрын

@@williamjacobs8105 thank you

@ImperatorMagus

5 жыл бұрын

Imagine how many bricks these companies would shit of developers tried to unionize

If I ran a supermarket and gave people a "1/5 chance" of getting bread or milk on every purchase, I would have legal authorities so far up my ass I could taste the rusty scales of justice

@SherrifOfNottingham

5 жыл бұрын

Before loot boxes there were Pokemon or Yugioh cards.

@Lyoko1309

5 жыл бұрын

@@SherrifOfNottingham Yeah, but see, we know the chances of pulling stuff in these card games. In Yu-Gi-Oh's case, they used to print it directly on the pack. yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Pull_ratios yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=7413 What's Overwatch's chance of pulling a legendary skin? We don't know. We know what Chinese player's chances are, but those aren't necessarily the same worldwide. If you're going to compare the two, try doing some research. And Blizzard could at least be transparent about how often you get the good stuff, instead of another fucking spray. www.polygon.com/2017/5/5/15558448/overwatch-loot-box-chances-china

@Meximagician

5 жыл бұрын

@@SherrifOfNottingham And due to the history of collectible card games, that industry chose to self-regulate by making the odds of getting a particular card available online or directly on the card/packaging/advertising. Players can also avoid the randomness entirely by buying the cards they want second hand. The same is true for blind bag toys, kinder surprise toys, and even some gumball machines (the last one I find a bit funny, as you can often estimate the odds by just looking inside the machine).

@noahkirkland5844

5 жыл бұрын

Nah you need to make sure its only a 0.0005 percent chance to get bread or milk, and a 99% to get useless shit you dont want like fucking celery

@CrissaKentavr

5 жыл бұрын

@@Meximagician ...Until they deceptively load the machine, which some do. But yes, this is why these things need to be transparent and available through direct-purchase means.

Speaking from experience I had (and still to an extent do) have a gambling addiction. When Overwatch came out I spent $100 on Lootboxes every fortnight, JUST for that rush and slight high that made me feel good. Ironically actual casinos didn't interest me. But for some reason I got hooked to the in came lootboxes. It took my PC breaking for me to just stop, and that's when I kinda just stopped buying them entirely. My opinions on Activision Blizzard changes instantly upon realizing this and to this day I regret all that money I wasted. I know it's not as much as you mentioned in this video and I know of a few others that spent about that much on Lootboxes. But it really is scary to know how addicting they can be. Sometimes I still feel that urge trying to creep back in. But, at this stage I just can't be bothered even trying to buy them. I'm glad that you're still going on about this, because you're part of the reason I changed my mind. Kinda having it nailed into my head worked wonders. But just to add, from my perspective back when I was into lootboxes, the reason I found myself defending them (If I remember correctly) was because it was kind of like a blinding thing. I didn't notice the negatives about it, nor how badly it had affected me. From my perspective it seemed like someone was attacking something that made me happy and at first I hated it. But the longer I watched your content, the more I realised how bad it really was. So, the TL;DR, thanks for being one of the driving factors behind me cutting off my lootbox addiction. Even if you might not have been aware. I'm sure there's been many others you've inadvertently helped others as well. :>

@lifeunderlockdown2935

5 жыл бұрын

Courage brother!

@kiddcannibus

5 жыл бұрын

Thx for sharing. Surprised you kept on with Jim's vids even after feeling attacked by them. That's real growth. Congratz on defeating your demons.

@VioletDeathRei

5 жыл бұрын

I feel you I had always avoided gambling because addiction ran in my family but soon I was justifying to myself "well of I can spend a few dollars on DLC I can spend a few on lootboxes." At first I'd do things like "I'll skip lunch today so it'll balance out" it wasn't until I stopped wanting to check my bank account that I knew I had a problem. I actually ended up turning to lotto and actually gambling for awhile to walk myself back because it was cheaper and less addictive to me. I literally used lotto tickets like nicotine patches to get off of lootboxes they let children play games with these....

@Kylailao

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for speaking out, friend! That's courage and I am so glad you are stepping away from it for good. I hope you can forgive yourself for spending so much. It is a very subtly manipulative system. So it is easy to slip into it. The important thing is getting out and getting all the help you need for that! (and yes, the repetition does wonders. I never bought into the system before but this makes me feel sick anytime I see it, and I am grateful for it, cause it helps me avoid them entirely)

@GGamersUnited

5 жыл бұрын

thanks for speaking out brother, this is why it matters! We all have those gambling inclinations once presented to it, some more, others less. So esp. with kids and adults who had problems with it, we need to be very loud about it!

Your channel gives me hope for the future. This year has been a big shock as a huge Blizzard and Bethesda fan. Once upon a time I held the argument that loot boxes had their place if done right, like in Overwatch. But even when _"done right"_ they still inherently alter the way the game would have been played if there were simply no loot boxes. Now seeing my two favorite game companies I've admired since my childhood take such a bad turn, I know there is no place for these kind of monetization methods. They pollute the game and the company in such a way that makes them unrecognizable from what they were before.

"If people didn't buy them." Yeah sure the AAA industry might take them out then... because they aren't working and they need to find another scheme to fill their pockets. It's not just a loot box problem, it's an industry problem.

@williamjacobs8105

5 жыл бұрын

Not buying them is the ONLY way a company will listen to you dumbass.

You know what AAA mean right ? Avarice Avidity Arrogance

@chrisseddon5823

5 жыл бұрын

Better than Kurt Angle's three I's. Gets an up.

@DoveTattoos

5 жыл бұрын

aardvarks angina aioli

@dunderbuns7625

5 жыл бұрын

Im trying to do a playthrough where I do not use the dictionary, what do the first two words mean?

@ArkhamJacks

5 жыл бұрын

Almonds Antidisestablishmentarianism And

@yuurou7927

5 жыл бұрын

An Abundance of Assholes

I miss the days when the biggest way publishers were trying to screw the customer was trying to delegitimize the resale market.

@FhtagnCthulhu

5 жыл бұрын

Remember when players were outraged at horse armor for Oblivion?

@victorhugocosta1127

5 жыл бұрын

@@FhtagnCthulhu How young and naive we where. And to think they try to sell us the chance of getting the horse armor nowadays

@drakkenmensch

5 жыл бұрын

I remember the days when the most grievous offense of the gaming market was refusing refunds even if less than 10 minutes had gone by since you bought the game.

@betacase07

5 жыл бұрын

Or when reviews were not mainstream. But then they bought the mainstream reviews...

"they arent a bad thing if done right"... hahahah thats something Extra Credits always say

@jonathankent1517

5 жыл бұрын

The thing about the "it's not bad if it's done right" argument is that it only really works when there are examples of it being done right, but in the case of loot boxes... there aren't any. There literally isn't a single game that has had loot boxes implemented in them in some way and not suffered for it.

“If you don’t like it, you don’t have to buy” is actually a valid point, we can just not buy their games period. That’ll actually cost them enough profit to hurt.

@threemays

5 жыл бұрын

If you don't buy the game you can't buy loot boxes for it either. Still amazes me that 60 DOLLAR games have microtransactions, like the original profit wasn't enough.

@VGamingJunkieVT

5 жыл бұрын

@@threemays On the plus side, there still exists professional games that don't have microtransactions of any kind, let alone lootboxes so, if their plan is to get the younger generation so used to it that they just accept it, they may have some trouble with that.

@PropheticShadeZ

5 жыл бұрын

I think the problem is the companies arent getting the real data, if you look at the raw numbers it makes sense, but they forget about the damage they do to them in the longer term

@VGamingJunkieVT

5 жыл бұрын

@@PropheticShadeZ They fail to realize the more damning long term effect of consumer trust. When consumer trust runs out, they're screwed.

The only ones I feel bad for in the industry are the developers stuck in the middle. They want to work on a great game and earn a name in the business (not that they get proper credit anyway). But instead they're forced to work the game and "story" to work around badly implemented grinding and micro transactions. I know a few people that works/worked at Ubisoft Massive here in Sweden, and some of them actually jumped ship and joined King instead (yes, Candycrush etc) because there they at least get payed better to implement the same bullshit.

@joelnogueira7692

5 жыл бұрын

While I can see the problem with gambling, what you said has been the biggest issue for me as a customer and afficionado. The games are built around the mechanic of microtransactions which cripple the games in multiple ways. Art, immersion, fun unrepetitive gameplay all suffer under the oppression of microtransactions. By the way, when will we stop calling them micro?

@sinteleon

5 жыл бұрын

So... they jumped from Ubisoft to Activision Blizzard....

@sinteleon

5 жыл бұрын

@@joelnogueira7692 There's nothing inherently wrong with microtransactions though, if done right; problem is that they usually aren't. How to do it right: First develop some full priced content. Offer said content at appropriate prices. Then section off said content to sell them piecemeal to people who doesn't want the whole of said content and only parts of it, at reduced prices, but higher price than if it was sold as a whole. That way, it's actually options you're being given to buy the whole product outright, or buy each portion.

@logiju1

5 жыл бұрын

@@sinteleon Basically, a dlc. Or an expansion pack.

@sinteleon

5 жыл бұрын

@@logiju1 Yes, except split into smaller portions for people who only wants individual parts instead of the whole set.

Jim Sterling. Thank God for him.

@Badnone

5 жыл бұрын

@Mr Judas At this point, Sterling could be Shao Khan.

@astraldragon5483

5 жыл бұрын

Y0G0FU "god doesn't exist" jim sterling is proof god exists. *CHECKMATE ATHEIST*

@thecousinbellic

5 жыл бұрын

Indeed. He did good work with this video.

@KhayJayArt

5 жыл бұрын

@@Y0G0FU uh like he said, THANK GOD FOR HIM!!! shove your beliefs elsewhere

@SuperJoesutton

5 жыл бұрын

Yes thank God he is on KZread weekly complaining about a product we don't need for survival. To an audience of people that already agree with him. With none of the publishers watching or paying any attention to him. He is truly changing the future.

A couple nights ago, a friend and I were having some drinks and discussing the problems in the gaming industry right now. It really makes us sad. Anyway, at some point, my friend slurred when he said "triple A" and it sounded like "cripple A". It seems fitting with how gaming companies are crippling themselves.

@FatherSaunders

5 жыл бұрын

Very sad and disappointed indeed my friend. I feel and hear you

As someone with an addictive personality, it’s just dangerous, there’s no reason to do this other than corporate greed, but you didn’t need me to tell you that lmao. If I had any money at all to spend on loot boxes or an equivalent (Black Lion keys in Guild Wars 2 are particularly interesting to me right now) I would be buying them, “fortunately” I am an unemployed co-dependant.

Oi! Have you looked at how Bethesda is trying their hardest to skirt laws to deny people their refunds for Fallout 76? Everything is automated now, every request is denied within minutes with the same message, even in countries where you are entiteled by law to get a refund if you bought a faulty product or didn't get what was advertised? They cite "company policy is not to return any digital sales", as if their company policy is above the law. Just yet another one of their shitty and shady practices that falls in line with them not giving review copies out for their games anymore. They are actively trying to keep their consumers in the dark.

@Graknorke

5 жыл бұрын

Probably why they didn't want it on Steam. Don't want a big company chasing you up for refunds.

@JamesKaplonek

5 жыл бұрын

And this is why we should NOT PRE-ORDER, kids.

@mjc0961

5 жыл бұрын

@vin 950 Steam is not pretty liberal with refunds. The 2 hour window is pathetically small, and for a game like Fallout 76, not nearly enough tine to realize that the game is bullshit and you want your money back.

@oompaloompagrande

5 жыл бұрын

@@mjc0961 Steam will give refunds past that, the 2 hour window is really a guideline to deal with repeated return-ers.

@Trickytickler

5 жыл бұрын

@@JamesKaplonek Well, i didn't pre-order and after a heated email where i pointed out their stance was illegal, i got a faulty product and i didn't get what was advertised i got my money back. I got my first request denied but they changed their tune pretty quickly after i pointed that out to them. I got the request accepted an hour after and two days later i got the money back in to my account. It's still horseshit and there are plenty of people who are either ignorant of what laws apply to them or think that they just have to comply with Bethesdas shitty customer support. I really hope Jim, Yong Yea and so on take note of this so the PR calamity can continue. They deserve to be hung out to dry and be made an example of at this point.

To go from Ubisoft Logic: If nobody would buy alcohol, nobody would produce it and so nobody would get addicted by it. But that is not how anything works. The whole alcohol Industry spends billions to make that stuff interessting for younger people to get them hooked. And getting people addicted is clearly their Goal. They are fine when people ruin themself for their profit.

@desmondbrown5508

5 жыл бұрын

This is an excellent point. Advertising and flourishing of product very much flies in the face of the idea that people "want" these things inherently.

@Buster_real

5 жыл бұрын

So do AAA publishers, go figure...

@Skyztamer

5 жыл бұрын

Well said. Not the Ubisoft logic, your interpretation. Ubisoft's logical defense can fuc-

@Jonen560ti

5 жыл бұрын

But if people resisted addiction and stopped buying it they wouldn't be able to spend billions on getting people hooked in the first place.

@Zangelin

5 жыл бұрын

Is that a problem though?

"humid in the skull" is the mild mannered cousin of "insane in the membrane"

Humid in the Skull is my new band name. Cheers Jim!

They say they're investing the money from lootboxes etc in making the games better. Then why is it that the games AREN'T getting better?

@SherrifOfNottingham

5 жыл бұрын

R6 Siege this idea is true, 8 new operators a year and 4 new maps. But that's a good example of a game as service being sold properly. Games like Assassins creed don't work for that unless they change the entire game into a different experience.

@Caitlin_TheGreat

5 жыл бұрын

In fact, they're getting worse in order to push people to buy the loot boxes/mtx.

@DeadWhiteButterflies

5 жыл бұрын

I can only guess the writing, design and programming departments within AAA are being cut meanwhile there's entire floors of office stiffs being dedicated to coming up with new crappy lootbox schemes.

@claudiuspulcher2440

5 жыл бұрын

it is a mystery.

The lootbox/DLC paradox: The more you pay, the less games and content you get in the future. That's a fact!

@cyphaborg6598

5 жыл бұрын

Just take a glance at Valve

@chummer2060

5 жыл бұрын

They are trying to get to max level capitalist. Where they can sell you the menu screen and you pay for everything beyond that. Kinda like Battlefield V.

What's also annoying, is that these predatory gambling boxes, will inherently hurt game developers of good free to play games, that have microtransactions and chests to fund the game, like Smite for example. I fucking love Smite, it's hands down the best moba style game I've ever played, and it's free to play and has been going onto the 5th year now successfully. They've constantly added content and features to the game for free, and some high quality skins you can buy for characters. They also include loot boxes for skins, but they list what you can get from a particular chest, and regardless you can buy ALL skins directly without rolling for them. The chests sometimes provide a discount, so a skin may cost 600 gems, but a chest roll with 4 potential skins including the 600 gem one, costs 400 gems. So you could technically get the skin at a discount. There's no duplicates, if you already own 2 of those 4 skins in the chest, you will only roll between the 2 remaining ones you don't have. It's probably the only game I've seen do this correctly, without it being predatory in any way. All purchases are cosmetic as well, but because of these BIG AAA companies, developers like HiRez could get hit by legal actions too, and unfairly at that.

What does AAA stand for again? Oh that's right. All About Avarice.

@youtubeuniversity3638

5 жыл бұрын

Fun fact, it is a Bank Credit Rating

One KZreadr, ReviewTechUSA, even brought up the idea that they keep on putting these lootboxes into games so that it gets Children to think that this kind of thing is normal and they can be used to exploit them in the future, which means that they are sort of thinking about making more money in the long term, just in a more predatory and assholish way

@devilgames2217

5 жыл бұрын

We will only beat them if these sort of news make it into the actual news channels on tv.

@DeathBringer769

5 жыл бұрын

@JoshIsOneCoolKid Even a fool who contradicts himself can be right once in awhile, lol. Like the old saying goes, even a broken clock is right twice a day ;)

@jozsva8064

5 жыл бұрын

Parents should be paying attention to their kids not a game company, its not a company's fault if someones kids figures out how to plug in all the info to buy something online.

@KhayJayArt

5 жыл бұрын

@@jozsva8064 someone's not getting the point

@jozsva8064

5 жыл бұрын

@@KhayJayArt yeah right all of you asking for regulations, how just being responsible for your own actions. No one forced anyone to buy a loot box/mtx

To that end, do support your favorite indie developer!

@KuroNoTenno

5 жыл бұрын

Or Nihon Falcom. Those guys are awesome.

@utisti4976

5 жыл бұрын

Landfall Games, SteelRaven, and Matt Dabrowski. Those are some great indie devs. Support CDPR too. :P

@budakbaongsiah

5 жыл бұрын

Uhh, Paradox?

@devilgames2217

5 жыл бұрын

Dontnod and SuperGiant. 👍

@ClemmyGames

5 жыл бұрын

I'm talking Dodge Roll Games (Gungeon), Greg Lobanov (Wandersong), Joakim Sandberg (Iconoclasts), Dan Fornace (Rivals of Aether), Matt Thorson & gang (Celeste), Lucas Pope (Obra Dinn) and so many more!

The way you said "disgusting" at 12:53 reminded me of John TB Bane. RIP

I think this is your best one yet on the the topic, Jim. It also conveys a lot more emotion too, maybe better for reaching a larger audience. Thank you so very much! Keep it up and never stop fighting for what's right!

Whenever I hear the "it's just optional" argument, I think "so is buying your shitty game" Also, 14:08, ten hour version when?

@Genin99

5 жыл бұрын

That's one way of combating pay to win games.

@KdogPrime

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. That's exactly the point. It's optional. So exercise your option and don't buy games with lootboxes. Don't let your children buy them, and if they do, and they start to spend hundreds of dollars on lootboxes, punish them. Take away their games. Take away their consoles. Take away their phones. Take away their credit cards. They are children. They will not act responsibly by viture of being children. So teach them responsibility.

@williamjacobs8105

5 жыл бұрын

"Exactly. That's exactly the point. It's optional. So exercise your option and don't buy games with lootboxes. Don't let your children buy them, and if they do, and they start to spend hundreds of dollars on lootboxes, punish them. Take away their games. Take away their consoles." Nah, that would be logical. Much easier to blame someone else for your own lack of self control.

*Triple AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*

@SuperDanteF

5 жыл бұрын

They don't want 3 A's, they want 410 A's. Yes I counted.

@bluephoenix3840

5 жыл бұрын

SuperDanteF was it worth it

@Coygon

5 жыл бұрын

P'haps he was dictating?

@danielalexander5510

5 жыл бұрын

More like Triple AaAaAaAaAaAa

@thecommentguy9380

5 жыл бұрын

triple AYY

EAT THE RICH

@ImperatorMagus

5 жыл бұрын

The only ethical consumption under Captialism

@shikuthetempest

5 жыл бұрын

Take one bite now - spit out the rest

@maxwellmee7052

5 жыл бұрын

Nosher Powell?

@CaptainCharlotte69

5 жыл бұрын

Just remember: Eating one Fortune 500 CEO will do more to prevent climate change than becoming vegan ever would.

@justawarlord

5 жыл бұрын

okay commy fucks

Another way in which the "if people don't buy them they won't be in the next game" argument is bollocks; how did they get into the games in the first place? Were people somehow buying them before they were into games and so were added to "the next game"? What they really mean is "if we didn't think that adding these things would make us tons of money then they wouldn't be in our games". As a side thought, as this might be worth looking into, I wonder if there are "triple A" executives that have experience in the "gaming" (gambling) industry, either as an executive of some group that runs casinos or makes slot machines or something. I could see a person thinking "hey, these techniques worked really well to convince people to give up their money with casinos, we should see if they will work for these video game things that my current company makes" pretty easily. Of course, if my understanding is correct, Konami makes actual gambling cabinets (or at least the code for them) so there's already some cross over between the industries.

I get the sneaking suspicion that EA is fighting Belgium because its future as a AAA publisher depends on it. Because of their exploitative (yet lucrative) practices, EA is totally beholden to its shareholders; they've amassed so many investments and so many expenditures that should their current industry suffer change or regulation... ...EA could utterly collapse as a corporation. Hell, the legal fallout from pushing against regulation could result in further financial losses and bad PR, which would serve to put shareholders off and further expedite EA's dissolution. EA has put itself in this position; if it doesn't fight and win against regulation, they'll lose everything. Should they submit to regulation, their shares are going to plummet, and with so many of EA's assets requiring sustainable investments... ...The losses are going to hit. Hard. We may actually see EA claiming bankruptcy within the next decade if they lose the war against regulation. They grew too big on an immoral and unstable business model, and now that their business model has become a target for the ethically charged, EA could very well drown beneath their own empire of bullshit.

@paullaing5921

5 жыл бұрын

I somehow can't bring myself to feel bad about that. I mean, what would we lose if that were to happen? Can anyone think of the last great game EA released? Dead Space 2 maybe.

@Eegor0920

5 жыл бұрын

To paraphrase the really old Grumpy Cat meme : "GOOD!"

@MechaKaiser

5 жыл бұрын

The only bad thing I could see about it is all the people who actually gave a crap about making games and not getting rich quick will lose their jobs and not have a place to go, kind of like with some of the guys back at Telltale.

@Sybil413

5 жыл бұрын

At this rate, it's only a matter of time now until EA goes out of business. Good riddance!

@clayendfield4850

5 жыл бұрын

@@MechaKaiser I understand your concern but the beautiful thing about an open market is that, so long as there is demand, there will always be supply. The vacuum that EA's potential downfall would leave could open the market to other entrepreneurs; allowing for a new publisher/developer race to establish a brand. The best way to establish a brand is through customer relations; good relations = good brand, bad relations = bad brand. This kind of a race could be massively beneficial to both developers & gamers alike; as it frees up the market to new IPs and business models, which would invoke competition between devs/publishers, which in turn, would provide customers with a greater variety of products to choose from. There exists a potential for something as bad or worse than EA to rise up from the ashes (and the market resurgence would undoubtedly have a bit of a rocky start), but more than anything, the industry needs a new status quo. EA, Activision-Blizzard, Ubisoft, WB Entertainment, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft Game Studios... ...Well, I wouldn't weep to see any of them take it in the teeth, and allow for the rise of a more customer focused and stable agenda, rather than this stock value and fiscal growth obsessed culture.

To the fan, who's brother struggles with a gambling addiction, I feel for you. My own younger brother struggled with a heroin addiction. 😔 He's been clean for a few years, but still.

@fosphor8920

5 жыл бұрын

@@pvsweetypie It's both addictions, so the comparison is legit. Ruining your own credit card can also kill you...

@Itri_Vega

5 жыл бұрын

You can still end up homeless, badly nourished and sick.

@Gaff.

5 жыл бұрын

@pvsweetypie It's not very likely that you're going to buy a legally sanctioned and critically acclaimed piece of entertainment and accidentally get hooked on heroin. That insidiousness is not to be taken lightly.

@goten259

5 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that he's clean

@decimal1156

5 жыл бұрын

@@pvsweetypie Addiction can lead to other mental health issues. Depression for instance. Plus, it is never a good idea to become dependant on something, and depending on the severity of addiction, draining your wallet can be an understatement.

Do not stop until Fifa/Madden and all the other loot box related games are banned for children or the publishers take them out permanently (that should be the ultimate goal).

This is probably the one time I can remember that I'm happy the government is meddling in video games

Every game with loot boxes should be rated M+, if kid aren't allowed into a real casino they shouldn't be allowed in a virtual one either

@Dr170

5 жыл бұрын

Kids would still be able to get the games one way or another. It's almost as if parents should exercise some level of responsibility over their offspring, but naaaaaah, they're too tired working themselves into early-onset cardiopathy to earn money for things they've been brainwashed into thinking they need.

@wiirlak8681

5 жыл бұрын

And Belgium just banned them instead of changing the rating because casion is 21+ years old - legally adult and highest pegi is 18, so that would not be enough. Additionally, how would they properly look for the taxes and regulations specifics to gambling ? Hardly possible .. And then, that won't stop in anyway child to buy them - should shop don't care, command online where you could lie or just use an adult to get one for you (I mean, like 90% of COD games are below 18 years old) !

@jacobellis2313

5 жыл бұрын

Wouldnt solve the problem, parents dont give a dam what there kids do so long as its not breaking the big laws

@goblin3810

5 жыл бұрын

this i agree with

@nathanclark2424

5 жыл бұрын

I can get behind this. I do worry that some will consider it "censorship" but honestly I dont care at this point. I dont want kids to have access to gambling PERIOD. Missing out on a good game is worth the price of not sinking into the gambling cycle.

2:04 - So according to this Ubisoft PR rep, slavery is apparently fine because people "buy" slaves on the black market. That's such a weak justification for lootboxes.

@WindyCornerTV

5 жыл бұрын

@TheHooseNutz I'm not an American, mate.

@KhayJayArt

5 жыл бұрын

@TheHooseNutz he was using A FUCKING EXAMPLE OF HOW STUPID AND WRONG IT IS. Invest in brains please

@WindyCornerTV

5 жыл бұрын

@Agent 005 This guy gets it.

@KineticRhyme

5 жыл бұрын

"If people quit buying illegal drugs, we'd stop selling them." ...Oh wait, wrong example xD

@Dularr

5 жыл бұрын

Well then buying a game which is play forever is closer to slavery.

My expectation is that ingame gambling will be legislated against pretty much everywhere except the US, where the law may as well state "Break whatever laws you want as long as it's in the name of profit."

I have a better, more accurate, name for "whales": *Victims* People spending thousands of dollars on these things are not just more well-off players who have more money than sense. You cannot have that little common sense to spend *that much money* on lootboxes. No, you do it if you have a psychological *compulsion* to do it. And it's not just addiction; for multiplayer games, peer pressure can be a huge incentive. Seeing other players with the latest cool-looking swag makes you want to get it yourself (basically how Overwatch makes so much money). Trying to keep up with guild mates or whatever can also be a huge incentive. A reasonable person would give themselves a reasonable budget for buying such trivial things. But the fact that it's just so easy to make these purchases off the cuff ensures that anyone with the right psychological makeup can be lured into this shit. The people to whom this happens are victims of predatory practices, just like people who get defrauded by charlatans and conmen in the streets.

@spiritdorkrai5741

5 жыл бұрын

both terms are right. relating the game industry to the gambling one with the term "whales" is not a bad thing

I love watching Jim rip the ‘Triple AAA’ game industry a new one.

@KhayJayArt

5 жыл бұрын

Yep

@Mgrow

5 жыл бұрын

@@thomassowellaudiobooks6441 That doesn't give them the right to act like price gouging shitbags.

@vVAstrAVv

5 жыл бұрын

@@thomassowellaudiobooks6441 they also brought us gsmes like dungeon keeper and fifa 18

@SuperJoesutton

5 жыл бұрын

You don't have to put triple AAA. When you put a triple it is already three a's

@vVAstrAVv

5 жыл бұрын

@@SuperJoesutton youre both wrong. Its spelled TRIPLE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Another brilliant breakdown and critique of the Triple AAA side of the gaming industry. Thank you for this Jim. :) I also giggle every time you get overwhelmed in a mask because it speaks to your level of dedication to a bit and, shouldn't you know better by now? ;)

@666Tomato666

5 жыл бұрын

Jim Fucking Sterling, Son will die for his Craft and don't you dare doubt him!

@MurderofBirds

5 жыл бұрын

You mean the Triple AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA side of the gaming industry.

You know, I think the representative got it right when he said that if nobody bought loot boxes, AAA companies wouldn't include them in their games. Doesn't make in any less scummy or duplicitous, but I guess a broken clock is correct twice a day. And they do actually mean nobody, as in not one single person. EDIT: By the way, that was one epic rant at the end there, Jim. Nice work!

Activision Blizzard had a deal with Hungry Jacks a few weeks back to promote Black Ops 4 using 15 minute exp boost codes in "Black Burgers". This lasted about a week until Hungry Jacks just stopped selling the "Black Burgers" presumably because, although they probably sold well, the people probably brought them for the exp boost codes and threw the "Black Burgers" away. Either that or they just didn't sell well. Good riddance, "Black Burgers".

I hate watching your show. But not because I don't like you, I like you. Not because I don't like the topics, I like the topics. Not because I don't like the things you say.. But because everything you say is so undeniably true about the game industry and yet the whole industry doesn't care, its that everything you say is so true that I hate knowing how shitty this amazing industry is and yet we all can do nothing about it. So when I listen to you talk about how scummy these loot boxes are and how they're ruining peoples lives like those brothers I hate it because the game industry will fight tooth and nail to exploit people more and more and more. And even if we somehow got together and stopped buying EA games. Hypothetically ofcourse. Then it changes nothing because all we're doing is hurting people who put their heart and soul into those games yet are twisted by investors who don't even flinch at the loss of a game. If we never bought a EA game and the had to close the only people that get affected by that are the hard working people who makes the games. The investors would just move on to another studio. There is no winning and we have to rely on the government to stop them but as we're seeing. Even then they're willing to defy the law. Great show btw.

@-dash.

5 жыл бұрын

I just stopped buying or caring about most AAA game and stick to games that last thousands of hours like dota etc as my main game and putting those 60dollars into multiple genuine indie game devs that I could whole heartedly throw my money at

@PauloGarcia-sp5ws

5 жыл бұрын

@@-dash. same here. I dont necessarily agree with Paradox Interactive, but they definitely are not a AAA publisher, and they make some really good games that you can get for cheap if you buy them on sale, and they can last thousands of hours. Hell, ive spent about 10,000 hours combined on EU4 and Ck2, and i got both of them for about 50 bucks for ALL the dlc. They also at least give decent updates to their games on a regular basis, and most of their games dont really need DLC to function well.

@Max-_-Power.7

5 жыл бұрын

You are wrong the only way to make a real change is talk with your wallet. True it will hurt there workers in the short term but there is always a price to pay.If a large enough amount of people did not buy a publishers game and expressed there anger they would change it simple.That would probably never happen because the average consumer probably nothing about who makes the games they buy. And for all the people who cried about rockstar over a "believed" wrong doing most still got red dead.

@MonochromaticPrism

5 жыл бұрын

The gaming companies aren't above blame though. You have to choose to allow a high enough % of your company to be in the hands of investors to be beholden to them in any way. At some point they made the bed where they can't just make the best game they can, and now they have to lie in it, and if they have to be run out of town then so be it.

@SamuelWellsZahn

5 жыл бұрын

I remember when people talked about the move to BIG AAA games, and, uh, there was this naive assumption (sometimes we were even told!) that next to the TRIPLE-AY games there'd be A and AA games, making consistent money. But, uh, that ended when Todd Howard unleashed his hordes of shitty fans onto the internet to turn-based combat obsolete and unrealistic.

AAA gaming industry consciously forgot that video game industry is a creative industry. The upper echelons did not want creativity on their games, but a money-making machine. That's why Fifa & PES got released every year with borderline no changes. That's why every AAA publishers wants to add Battle Royale to their games.

@victwenty2324

5 жыл бұрын

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It occurs to me that AAA companies will not change based on pressure from us, their customers/cattle. They are only influenced by their shareholders. So instead of pressuring the companies, shouldn't we be pressuring the shareholders themselves?

Loot boxes done right: Completely remove the attached microtransactions. Make them only obtainable through in game mechanics. Here are a few examples: Just like in Mario Kart 8. You remember how the progression of unlocks for different karts and parts progressed but when something was awarded it was just a random, not yet unlocked part (so basically a randomized prize, just like you get in loot boxes). You want to include duplicates to make the content last longer for minimal extra content production costs? Fine accumulate a few copies of the same part to upgrade it (could be color pallets (Silver, Gold, Rainbow, Dark variants of items) or linear performance improvements maybe). Each time a reasonable, repeatable, scale-able, goal is met, a randomized loot box is awarded! No real money involved. For games such as most forms of RPGs, games which tend to generate a lot of in game currency, well games like these generally tend to need currency sinks to BALANCE the player's currency and keep the amounts in check, so use the loot boxes a a currency sink. Look at the gambling merchants in Diablo 2 for example. No option to pay real money for in game currency or anything like that, just earn it as you play the game and use loot boxes to keep the numbers in check. (note how, years ago, In Diablo 2, Blizzard North (Not Activision Blizzard but the company that Activision devoured) was already willingly calling these kinds of mechanics gambling even though they did not involve any real life currency... Food for thought...) Or for games where competitive matches happen with few competitors simultaneously (like sports or racing games) each time you win a match, you get a token for a basic loot box. Got lots of players in a same simultaneous round? (100 player battle royale) Winner gets 5 tokens, second and third get 3 tokens, fourth fifth and sixth get 1. Got tiered, winner advances, loser is eliminated, tournament-like mechanics? (like many fighting games) Winner gets 5 tokens, Runner up gets 3 tokens, and semi finalists get 1. Again, no paying real money for tokens. You don't want your players to run through too many loot boxes too quickly by burning through tokens? Allow them to accumulate tokens for better rewards: 1 token: chance or rare drop. 5 tokens, guaranteed rare drop, chance for ultra rare. 20 tokens Guaranteed ultra rare drop. Don't want players to just play easier modes/difficulties to farm tokens? Make items from loot boxes only valid for the mode or difficulty it was earned in (and maybe easier modes or lower difficulties)... Note: numbers I gave here for tokes were arbitrary, just given as proof of concept. These are examples of "good" loot boxes. These are mechanics that would encourage players to actually play the game more. Not pay to skip playing the game. Some of these could even be used to teach about risks of gambling without any actually involving financial risk. You lost too much when gambling on loot boxes and now you're having a really hard time progressing in the game because you spent too much of a limited, useful, in game resource on loot boxes (for a chance at a good boost) but you missed the prize and now you can't use said resource to actually progress? Well yes there are consequences to things like this...Would I be better to carefully craft my character by choosing where to apply each skill point or should I gamble them to have up to 4 skill points randomly assigned to skills that may or may not go with my build...

The star wars style text through space was a nice touch

"If gamers didn't buy lootboxes, we wouldn't put them in out games." Followed by: "Gamers aren't buying our games enough! We aren't making good enough first week sales! What do we do!?!?!? .... *LOOTBOXES!*" Warlock and his overseers at Ubisoft and every other triple "ey!" game publisher can go tug it. When gamers don't buy games because of microtransactions and bad shady business practises, their solution is ever more microtransactions. To then claim that they wouldn't use lootboxes if people didn't buy them, in the face of people not buying them (by not buying the games) is hysterically sad.

Here in Denmark about a week ago, they started talking about how lootboxes may be gambling in the news, however they only focused on the stuff where you could earn actual money, such as the CS:GO stuff.

I don't know why you would say anything about the industry regulating itself, because the ESRB and other similar ratings boards were introduced by governments to regulate things because people were worried about videogame violence, cause companies made those types of games to reel in more consumers, for more profits. The AAA videogame industry has never and will never regulate what they are doing, and never will, and you know this. Companies are always seeking more profit, and almost all of them will be morally bankrupt. If there is any excuse to earn boatloads of more money at a relatively low risk, they take it. Hell I sure as well would go for it too if I had the opportunity.

I resent the idea of comparing aaa publishers to dogs. It's not fair... to the dogs

@taloscal

5 жыл бұрын

indeed, dogs are at least honest and don't eat their own shit as much as the AAA publishers.

@Rosebrickwork

5 жыл бұрын

@@taloscal good one

@stylesrj

5 жыл бұрын

@@taloscal Plus you can teach a dog tricks.

@whatevr99

5 жыл бұрын

Taloscal AAA publishers can’t compete with that. 🤣

@ShadowWolfRising

5 жыл бұрын

Dogs are our friends, and don't illicit rage and hate like the AAA Publishers do.

Hopefully in a short time you'll be reporting that Andrew Wilson and the rest of EA's board of directors have been extradited to Belgium to serve time in prison for their role in defying Belgian gambling laws, and that EA has filed for bankruptcy and is selling its assets piecemeal, and that game companies have gotten scared and are no longer using lootboxes in their games. That's the ideal situation, at least.

@JamesKaplonek

5 жыл бұрын

I think at this stage, the best we can hope for is the left-wing activists picking up on things as being exploitative to children, and starting to spout out their usual shit all over social media. The Corporates' are so shit-scared of being labelled "haters" of any kind (sexist, racist, bla bla) they will have no choice but to suddenly change their stance and decry loot crates, sacking CEOs and bringing in "new management" with a sudden change of heart, stripping it all out of their business models in order to appear like they weren't just in it to exploit the population for as much money as possible, even though we all know that's exactly what it's about right now.

This is why I subscribed to Jim, he says it straight out how it is without holding back. He should be on tv and telling more people. This was just another great critique that everyone who buys games should watch and take to heart. This channel has a very high standard and I am glad for it.

I like the use of the Star Wars text scroll. Nice touch.

"A winner is just a loser who tried one more time." - Every gambler ever, probably.

@popejewish

5 жыл бұрын

This is literally called the Gambler's Fallacy

@RobertWSquirrel

5 жыл бұрын

I prefer “gambling is a tax on people who are bad at math”.

@sinteleon

5 жыл бұрын

@@popejewish Not exactly; Gambler's Fallacy is the belief that the odds goes in the gambler's favour if they try more times. It's still true that if you lose and don't try again, you'll forever be a loser, while trying again gives you a chance (granted still equal to the low chance you had) of winning. Of course, the real "winning" strategy is to not play to begin with.

When I quit Mobile games again a few months ago my brother who plays Azur Lane quite a bit said “just play the game without spending money.” I told him “I literally can not do that.” “Well I guess quitting is a good idea then.” Loot Boxes are directly targeted at me and people like me, they need to be stopped.

@YouDonkeyfu

5 жыл бұрын

Exactly, like a friend of mine was saying how cosmetic are optional. Yes, they are to you and me, but to other, not really. Which is how i find all these arguments for lootboxes to be, yes they arent an issue to you, but that is just it, it isnt an issue to you doesnt mean that it isnt an issue for other, there will be people who are into the cosmetic aspect of a game which is why there are so many skins for sale.

@ransom6461

5 жыл бұрын

Contact your local and federal representatives. You have a legitimate story, tell it to those who can do the most about it.

@Zangelin

5 жыл бұрын

Or just get some self control and stop being such a victim.

@ruicosta4000

5 жыл бұрын

indie games my man!!

@megadethrocks1239

5 жыл бұрын

Self control dude.

Jim saying "liiiiive service" is iconic. Not Ubisoft iconic, true iconic

Calling horse shit on more $ being put back into games. Maybe more in the marketing dpt but definitely not the game itself. Too many games are broken or half empty shells.

Your argument is spot on, Jim. One suggestion, though. Chances are that people with gambling addiction are watching your videos. I recommend putting up resources to get help. That will help these people and drive home how serious this is.

It's going to lead to these kids having problems further down the line in their lives. Aiming thes gambling style games at kids is just morally wrong. They have their whole lives to be shafted left right and center. They deserve a few years before they have their wonder at the world and their spirits crushed. Don't you guys think?

@ontoverse

5 жыл бұрын

While it might sound a bit conspiratorial, there's a bunch of large investment firms initiating start ups, ostensibly for "AI research", but what they really seem to be doing is bringing MTX to real life. Check out what Patrik Söderlund is doing now, post EA-- he's heading up just such a company. The idea is to pay-as-you-go through superapps; for example at a mall you might be prompted to pay for a mall-local assistant that gives you "exclusive" offers and allows billboards to show you personalized ads (ie offers)-- and looking at what's in games now you can imagine just how those special deals really work. Tiers with bonus levels; 3 for the price of two but the third is some kind of random extra with a miniscule chance to get something really expensive, pre-pay before going to the mall to get extra deals, buy for certain amounts to 'level up' and get extra access and so on. The older generations are rather unlikely to get roped in by these things, but a primed youth already used to it all will become ideal profit units-- oh, sorry , _ customers_ .

@Itri_Vega

5 жыл бұрын

Sadly to those CEOs and shareholders on their high, high horses, kids, or us gamers in general, are nothing but cows waiting to be milked dry. Or fish and whales, to stick with the analogy given in the video. We're numbers, figures in black and white on spreadsheets, same as the employees. It makes me retch.

@nagatouzumaki3492

5 жыл бұрын

Not a gambling, you always win something by purchasing loot boxes. Besides why company should be accountable for parents decision that allow children to access their money to pucharse it? Pucharsing Online isn't going to the drug dealer, it is anonymous hence company have no knowledge if buying is a child , child with a premission from parent or not.

@AntoanArcana

5 жыл бұрын

@@nagatouzumaki3492 You're essentially arguing to make everything legal on the basis of anonymity, whether you realize it or not. There can be loopholes in and justifications for just about anything and, with enough money and influence, any number of those could potentially be a matter of public policy depending on your particular area.

@nagatouzumaki3492

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, not really. Even if granted you this was gambling (it isn't) anonymity makes it impossible to identify who is buying lootboxes and as gambling is legal (not for children) you would have be likely stuck with one of two options if you wanted regulate it: 1.Regulate it as normal gambling and developers would have to either to: a)End loot boxes for everyone b)have some identification process, what is unlikely as it would be costly and people would dislike it as it would be seen as intrusion of privacy and giving developers personal information meaning end of anonymity in games, at least for people buying loot boxes but wouldn't be suprised if they expanded it to everyone playing game . 2.Outright prohibit it what would end loot boxes for everyone, aside from that it is unlikely option as one would have hard time justyfying it while gambling still being legal and you would need to establigh policy into the law instead just try to pass it as a gambling in already established law.

Having an instrumental version of "Money, Money, Money" playing in the background was a nice touch.

that Scrooge McDuck picture you use is so perfect

Nice comparison to cigarettes there, especially the part where tobacco companies have made their products, deliberately, so addictive there are essentially no non-addicted smokers and only new ones. Really nice paralell, enlightening if I may say so.

@NeoSaturos123

5 жыл бұрын

Tobacco Companies = Legalized drug cartels

@RMJ1984

5 жыл бұрын

If it were up to the companies, they would be marketing cigarettes to kids. And to think they said that smoking were HEALTHY once. Companies need to be kept in check,

@thomasjenkins7506

5 жыл бұрын

it would be a nice comparison if people died from cancer because they opened lootboxes, but it's not. it's a poor comparison and jim's an idiot for making it. cigarettes are lethal. lootboxes are not.

@JohnDoe-lm1gv

5 жыл бұрын

@Anderson Dalmeus can't really tell if you're(a) trying to refute my point or(b) just commenting on corporate greed (but that's on me) If (a), interestingly enough nicotine absorption rate while vaping is lower than while smoking cigarettes - and I have some anecdotal evidence the high kicks in with a noticeable delay. If (b), I believe they would if only it could be pushed through the FDA EDIT: replaced 'by' with ' through the' for clarity

@JohnDoe-lm1gv

5 жыл бұрын

@@thomasjenkins7506 cigarettes are EVENTUALLY lethal(and then on the level of severely raised health risk), long term health risks of lootbox use are not adequately researched at this time(unless we assume they are comparable to other problem gambling, what were the risks of that again?)

Can't wait for the congressional hearing and the CEOs desperately struggling to explain why it's ''not gambling''

@Sonichero151

5 жыл бұрын

With this government? HA that's a good joke

Only time I remember lootboxes being done right were in Blacklight Retribution, where on leveling up, you could get a high end receiver pretty regularly and the only boxes worth going for were bought for in game currency that had to be earned.

I just thought I'd chime in and say while I agree entirely with your argument, you've missed a large part of the psychology behind gambling addiction. You incorrectly referenced the sunk cost fallacy, which may certainly be a part of some people's addiction but is not the main driver behind the addiction. The main driver is reward scheduling, and to be specific in this case it's variable-ratio scheduling. This is by far the most addictive type of reward scheduling for our brains, and obviously affects some people more than others. Both slot machines and lootboxes use almost exactly the same mechanic to exploit this quirk in our brain. We are more likely to become addicted to pulling a lever with a random reward chance than one that consistently rewards us. This is where it differs from the sunk cost fallacy. For sunk cost you could use the analogy of a town building a tourist attraction. They put millions into it but things go wrong and the budget blows out. The fallacious thinking here is "well we've spent a few million already, what's a few million more to ensure it gets finished". The difference here is that problem gamblers don't pour money into a guaranteed outcome, they are driven by the idea that the next spin could be the one where they win big.

@williamjacobs8105

5 жыл бұрын

Jim Sterling is what happens when a know nothing thinks he knows it all.

@brenny77

5 жыл бұрын

@@williamjacobs8105 That's not really what I was saying. In this case the only thing Jim got wrong is the psychology behind the addiction.

@Castdeath

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, that's the Gamblers' Fallacy.