The current owners of BASS couldn’t care less about the sport it’s all about money. Ray Scott would never allowed this crap.

@brianpierson7708

2 ай бұрын

🙏🏼 god bless you brother. And I WISH RAY SCOTT COULD RIP. I been saying since this stuff started we need to post bass’s feed with WWRSD&S do&say Because we know he would do it just like the A-Rig also all these fish hooked in the head not the first hook in the mouth not even from the outside in. Have you been seeing that?? And they can’t skip a dock but yet will beat the sh!+ out of them. I seen myself personally. Ray grabbed the guy by the shoulder and said come here and pulled him behind the tents and chewed his a2s out because a home owner came down there complaining about they pro hit the cross members and top band on the dock and hit a 1/2 sunken boat. And Ray told him no matter what you are a pro fisherman on MY BASS tournament tour you should be better than to repeatedly hit a dock. You should be able to skip a dock without doing it. And I know it happens everyone messes up and hits something sometimes. But to keep doing it is flat out lazy or just disrespectful to the owners on the lake and to every pro here including myself but most of all to BASS. So I don’t think ol Ray would let all the rules be broken or FFS. It’s extremely dangerous looking zoned out into a screen never looking up by buddy says he seen 2 on a small lake almost get smoked in a boat lane in a hard curve. The other 1 with a long dock got out to a boat house. So at the least make the FFS zombies keep on big old school life jacket on when using it.

@muthafukajones1513

2 ай бұрын

Eat Scott absolutely would live ffs. That’s who he was. Perhaps B.A.S.S. doesn’t care about crybabies who don’t contribute to the industry

@macdaddyblues1

2 ай бұрын

@@muthafukajones1513 says guy with childish screen name! lol

@muthafukajones1513

2 ай бұрын

@@macdaddyblues1Yes he does

@geoffstatum7363

2 ай бұрын

Ray never stood in the way of changing technology. He endorsed it.

I didn’t think I could respect Mr. Parker any more until now. Thanks for trying to save the sport

@lljustice3877

2 ай бұрын

Not to mention these hypocrites have all sight fished for spawning Bass on their beds in 2 ft of water. How many have stuck them in their livewell during tournaments back in the day like Randy Blaukat or even Hank. Talk about hurting the fisheries. How many Bass fry never came to be because of these morons?

This is wiping the history of bass fishing away. The pros of my day including Hank are being erased with this technology being allowed in tournaments. Just my 65 yr old opioion. The use of it by anglers that can afford it is fine with me just not in a tournament. Years of experience gone for veteran anglers.

@Tedthib

2 ай бұрын

You cannot wipe the history of bass fishing away. You cannot hold the champions of past to the standards of modern time. Every sport changes every sport adapts. You could look at track and field for your examples the times people are running now were thought to be impossible 40 years ago. We cannot freeze time or reverse time for fishing. The next generation was simply do things differently and that's what will make fishing continue to thrive into the future

@MrFishhook

2 ай бұрын

Track and field is not a good comparison at all !Tech only helps track athletes a little bit ! The cheating and not getting caught though modern medicine helped allot of track athletes

@surfdaily444

2 ай бұрын

​@Tedthib In bass angling, we use lures to attract fish and a good angler can read the environment to increase his fish catching hookups. In track and field the training techniques and nutrition approach is what can increase performance through the years. Watching a screen(FFS)that exposes the fish is pretty much spotlighting, it's not allowed in hunting, and it's definitely not what angling is about or any type of angling technique.

@secretbassrigs

2 ай бұрын

@@Tedthib he wasn't being literal. A lack of reading comprehension is the only thing FFS advocates are proving so far. What should we blame for that, SCANTRONS?

@b.s.fishing5902

2 ай бұрын

Run a 100 on a crushed cinder track which was used with legends like Jesse Owens and then go to a modern track…that’s just one tech advancement. Look at their shoes and spikes that they wear now compared to them as well. Jump over to pole vault and the tech in the poles they use is wildly different now than it used to be. Yea the training and nutrition are also well ahead of where it was but the advances in technology make a big difference too

Not a tournament tool. Some kids parents just cant afford it. Its hard enough just paying for a decent boat. Im totally against it for tournaments. The playing field even in local clubs is not even. Its who has the most money. That takes the love of fishin away and discourages the average family man.

@Fjb.trumpwon

2 ай бұрын

Listen to this white privilege . I'm 47 have a great job to bad the kid can't afford it it's America go to work

@Tedthib

2 ай бұрын

So you're trying to bring socialism into fishing? Everyone should have the same?

@Patrick.J.Norman

Ай бұрын

This is a perfect example of why I say pros shouldn't fish against Amateurs. It's not an even playing field.

Pre FFS i've caught 5 spotted bass over 6 lbs , one 7-4 , and lost count of the 3 to 5,s. Over 6lbs is like killing a 150 inch deer. All those 6 plus pound catches are special and I remember every one of them like it was yesterday. A couple weeks ago I was out learning more about scoping on some boat docks for Crappie. I "wheeled" the boat around for what ever reason , looked down at my unit and saw a good size fish swimming about 3 ft deep and 40 ft out front in the middle of the pocket. I hummed a blade runner (horse head / fluke ) to it and it hammered it. Turned out to be a 6 -2 spot. Same awesome fight as always but after I caught it I had way less joy than any of my previous catches . It didn't do anything for me I felt empty. I felt like I cheap shotted that fish. That's just me tho. Would I do it again? Probably. Will it mean as much as the previous trophies before FFS .... doubtful

@Theburningseason

2 ай бұрын

Real hard right lol it's why I laugh when ppl say u still got to get em to bite lol they fish dumb and have to eat

@Fjb.trumpwon

2 ай бұрын

Who cares about this joy thing what are we becoming rainbow 🌈 people ?

@Jake-ky9ed

2 ай бұрын

Don’t have a dog in the fight and don’t care what ya use, but your post is all ive said, like shooting a deer with my recurve vs my compound? They both eat good I’m happy as can be with both kills but if I had to choose I’ll take a recurve kill any day of the week over a compound!! Thats some impressive fish man! Didnt realize a spot would get over 5 but I’m not near spot country only ever caught a few.

@Theburningseason

2 ай бұрын

@@Jake-ky9ed brother u don't understand how easy ffs is

@Jake-ky9ed

2 ай бұрын

@@Theburningseason not going to either!?

It’s not about catching , it’s about fishing , the name of the sport is fishing not catching

@Fjb.trumpwon

2 ай бұрын

Clearly it's about catching

@Tedthib

2 ай бұрын

I guess I've been raised differently I go fishing to catch fish. I've never been happy with just being outside I'm outside everyday I go fishing to catch fish

@michaellamenza7617

2 ай бұрын

I go fishing to catch fish, too. But how I catch fish matters more. I wouldn't find enjoyment catching fish out of an aquarium at Bass Pro Shops. Finding and figuring them out is the most rewarding part for me. With or without electronics, just not live sonar. That crosses a line for me. Finding fish and bait fish live on a screen, watching fish react live on a screen, casting too them live on a screen, takes that all away, regardless that ffs is a skill to learn. Ffs is not just offshore either. "I was bed fishing, casting to blobs on a screen " is what I heard a guy who fished the open at Santee Cooper say. I dont want to fish that way.

@bobbycolson1957

2 ай бұрын

If the pros want to get paid they better catch

@Fjb.trumpwon

2 ай бұрын

@@michaellamenza7617 dude the rainbow in you is strong 💪 do you have rose pedal baths too

As Hank mentioned before, Golf and MLB have not allowed certain technology that is currently available to change the traditions of thier sports. Tournament bass fishing should follow there decisions. By the time they do make a decision some of the fisheries will have been damaged is what could be real concern.

We can’t have real fishing hero’s wit FFS , a good fisherman is a guy that does the real fishing work , a guy that has good instincts to make the right decisions at the right time .

@muthafukajones1513

2 ай бұрын

And this shows you have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about like the rest of the Randy’s here.

I disagree that Electronic Companies didn’t know how powerful this technology would be, they developed, tested it, and deployed it. They knew exactly how powerful this tool was going to be, and they knew everyone would need one to compete. They also knew they get more kids into fishing with this tool, probably more gear towards the younger gen to make sales. I don’t see it FFs going away, but we need regulations.. It’s about dollars and no sense.

@fishybassvon5752

2 ай бұрын

As far as technology is concerned, honestly there are so many other fishing related things that could be improved technologically. Bass boat can have a car like compartment lock, air cushion for all the seats, a fishermen-oriented action camera more reliable than GoPro, etc. Why did they have to choose FFS? Plus if you look at the price of the fishing electronics, you pay 5K for a screen only does one thing or two, while if you pay half the price to get a MacBook Pro it does a million jobs. I mean if the fishing industry is really planning to embrace technology, get Apple involved and we won’t need a rod or reel anymore. All fishing electronics companies will go eat dust…

The BIGGEST THING is... What is it going to do to our resource, THE FISH?

@mtnpwr

Ай бұрын

Exactly my concern too

Thank you MrHank , when every one , all bass fisherman and recreational own this new tech cause we all know we have meat hunters , this tech will hurt the bass population

I get frustrated as the discussions always revolve around how FFS hurts this person or that person, but the reality is, the entities that are TRULY HURT are the fish and our fisheries. In the long run, that hurts us all.

@muthafukajones1513

2 ай бұрын

There is no evidence or common sense to support that statement

@dprob1985

2 ай бұрын

​@@muthafukajones1513 it's common sense. They're catching fish that wouldn't have been caught. More fish caught, the more fish die.

@jeffsims3585

2 ай бұрын

@@muthafukajones1513 seriously, you honestly struggle with math.

@muthafukajones1513

2 ай бұрын

@@dprob1985 There is no science to support your flawed statement. There are no resting fish. You heard that from Randy and that is completely incorrect.

@dprob1985

2 ай бұрын

@@muthafukajones1513 again....."common sense". Sorry you lack it because you look at your screen and rip out deep water bass

Hank, I met you numerous times over 30 years ago at 7 Oaks landing Lake Wylie. You actually seemed to vibrate with enthusiasm for the sport. Forward Facing radar is fine for prefishing in my opinion. Shouldn't be allowed in competition.

@stonehorn4641

2 ай бұрын

This is my opinion as well.

@chuckf6504

2 ай бұрын

Agreed

@controlavirus9839

2 ай бұрын

No. It should not be used in any tournament situation whatsoever.

@davidray3558

15 күн бұрын

There's too much money involved just to ban electronics all together, but I think the banning the use of it during the actual tournament competition would be the only logical solution.

Honestly I’m worried about conservation, we are catching bigger and bigger bass in areas that were left alone.

@AT6er

2 ай бұрын

Evidence show nothing fishermen do hurts bass reproduction more then pulling them off beds. The undeniable stress kills or effects the eggs she’s carrying.

@staleek100

2 ай бұрын

This is a valid point. Hopefully marine biologists on different lakes are keeping an eye on things to determine over the next little while if FFS specifically is having a negative impact.

@brianpierson7708

2 ай бұрын

@@AT6er. I think killing fish because of pulling them out of deep water. They rip the hook out and throw them back as fast as possible and a lot goes down a few feet and die or they just go to the bottom and die. That I do know about. I’m not 100% sure about that so I’m not too say anything about beds.

@macdaddyblues1

2 ай бұрын

@@AT6er Are you drunk? That made absolutely no sense.

@Irishmule169

2 ай бұрын

@@AT6er That’s what buffalo hunters said too. There’s no evidence of every running out of buffalo and then they were gone and have never recovered since. Hope all these guys defending the ffs technology have enough balls to say they were wrong and apologize when bass and crappie are a thing of the past.

As a surfer I realized my attraction to bass angling was parallel to surfing in that your in the water and you have to read nature/water to catch a wave, and you have to read nature/water to catch bass. I fish banks, seeing boaters stare down at their screen FFS looks like they're watching a dog 🐕 💩. 😂 they look crazy, and should go home and play video games!!

Hello Hank, I seen that you were in Headland for the High School Fishing team a lil' while back. Next time you're in town, I'd love to volunteer my time. I can help teach safe boat operating techniques and marine mechanical troubleshooting. A big thanks to Sara Beth for her technological abilities to record these podcasts and share them! ❤

No one wants to talk about what this technology is doing to spoonbills, in panfish. Here in Iowa we only got 4 lakes in whole state that are like 4000 acres. We don't have these massive waters like most states. After just a few years of ice fishing these 300 acr to 1000 acre lakes . It's impossible to find panfish with size. These guys are following these crappie schools 7 or 8 of um using 1 unit one guy calling the shot in where they go. It was just insane to watch. All of um had buckets . Not including they did that 3 weeks in a row. Now we need new limits in reduced limits simply because of this one dang thing!! Just crazy .

@Mountinbass

2 ай бұрын

Man that sucks… I’d be so upset this is horrible.. over ppl keeping EVERYTHING

Being a lover outdoors and fishing tournaments are two different things.

Hank thank you for your perspective on FFS. I wasn't sure how to verbalize my feelings. This podcast helped immensely.

It's about Fair. Well said Hank. Best fishin content I seen in a while.

@AT6er

2 ай бұрын

Is it fair that top pros like hank and many others to use prototype baits to win tournaments that are NOT available to others for a year or two?

My home lakes are casitas & castaic. I used to be a guide on these lakes. It's very popular to fish live shad during the shad spawn for several months out of the year. It used to be a art in itself to be able to find and catch shad with a standard net for the guys that did it( throw nets are illegal). Now the trend with FFS the spawning shad are super easy for guys with FFS to find and net. Then with ffs they put a live bait in front of every bass,or any species they see on the screen. 90% of those fish bite and are caught! 50% or higher are gut hooked and most guys just clip the line and leave hooks in them when released. Whats even more alarming is all the guides are doing it! It's gonna be devastating on are fisheries if something dosnt change!!! People have failed to talk about guys fishing bass with live shad with this technology. You want to talk about it not being fishing. It's straight up catching and is truly hurting are bass in ways that kill them. It's sad the sport has ended up here!

@lljustice3877

2 ай бұрын

But you, Hank and Randy Blaukat sight fished for spawning Bass in 2 ft of water on their beds just like these pros due during tournaments (way before FFS came along) and somehow that’s not an issue with anyone and there’s no push to ban that 😂 Bunch of hypocrites

@rodthigpin1682

2 ай бұрын

Well you should probably know who your running your mouth about before accusing me of being a bed fisherman. Been opposed of sight fishing my whole life and have spent the last 30 years chasing trophy bass with swimbaits.bed fishing is and always will be controversial but If you think you can compare guys targeting fish on beds one month out of the year compared to guys spot lighting them 12 months out of the year with no place to hide,then you have issues. If you think watching guys killing the bass in my home lakes using ffs then I can only hope the same thing happens on your home lakes! Then maybe you will open your eyes!

@lljustice3877

2 ай бұрын

@@rodthigpin1682 Your so full of it. Guys targeting Bass 1 month out of the year sight fishing spawning Bass? I would think a “Guide” would know that spawns happen at different times across the US. So “Pros” can and have fished month after month for spawning Bass depending on what part of the country they are in during the spawning season for that area. You gave your little story about the evil FFS guys to suit your case against it. Well I know quite a few FFS users and they all catch and release and care about our fisheries everywhere. And I know guys all my life that go out and keep every Bass or panfish they catch 3-4 times a week and have no electronics. So who’s hurting the fisheries more? I know what I’ve experienced because my eyes are open and not biased or hypocritical

@rodthigpin1682

2 ай бұрын

Well dude I never said I was a touring pro so your making yourself look like a clown. Yes I know how long fish spawn for and at all different times throughout the country. Promise I know more about bass fishing than you could ever dream to. But that's besides the point. What your trying to tell me is what is happening on my home lakes isn't happening because you know guys that release fish and kill fish😂 brilliant!I stated what is happening on my home lakes that are already dealing with bouncing back from drought and don't need guys gut hooking every damn fish out there using ffs. If that gets your panties in a bunch then go be a keyboard hero on someone that gives a crap about your opinion. Clearly if your so worked up you must not be capable of catching without ffs. For that I only hope they ban it on my waters. Id hate for you to not be able to catch fish anymore.

@rodthigpin1682

2 ай бұрын

Pretty cool your a expert on what's happening on my lakes. Hum Maybe your one of them?hum

It's gamming! Not fishing!

@slabbusterrtr7690

2 ай бұрын

Your wrong they don't jump in the boat you still gotta catch them go try it get back with me they all don't bite

@jasonrol5208

2 ай бұрын

@@slabbusterrtr7690 Your wrong .. just like spot lighting deer hunting .. you still have to shoot and kill them.. that's your argument

To me it seems to be like hunting over corn. Stare at a screen and pour out ready made food plot. They are really both the same. Were lazy so take the easy road.

my son at 15 created a bass club at his high school. Read every rule, checked multiple leagues, promoted and gave classes at the high school. Went to local game shows and raised money and sold raffles from donated items. We came in from the outside and it was shocking, as a lifelong fisherman myself, how much money being spent. How many winners are constantly with a boat captain that is presently doing adult bass tournaments. How often nobody "shares" info, even AFTER the tournaments. How High School fishing is about scholarships...winnings....and so competitive that as we have seen in the recent past, cheating..... Well we went from 2 boats the first year...4 boats.. 6 boats...from our small high school. Two boats (ours) made the state and nationals. I had a 17 ' 10 year old Nitro with one graph in front and one on the console. I literally had to upgrade to a 21ft just so I wouldn't get blown off the huge lakes during the tournament and being responsible not only for my son but another non boater.... I couldn't take chances and there I go..spending money... now a few years out, my son (20's) does some casual bass tournaments and says.. "Its the same. Money, asshats and arrogance like what we saw in high schools." was it fun.. yes it can be but not like you think it will be. For pro's...... get rid of it. Even the NFL puts limits on play and player salary. the snowball will be that in 15 years when everyone is accustomed to this will start using drones to hunt turkeys and deer.... never say never

I have to tell you. I was in Tulsa Sunday for my first Classic. I looked over, and there was Hank Parker standing there. It caught me off guard. I was a little starstruck. Then I saw Clunn, and the same thing happened. It was wild for me. I know these are just normal men, but I didn't know what to say. Thanks for telling us what you think on this issue. I believe it matters, and that your voice is very important to hear. Your granddaughter makes a great point. It really limits the sport. Which also hurts tackle sales, and education. And you are dead on about people who say these guys have no skill hurt the argument against the technology.

I see myself just quitting the tournament scene altogether and possibly fishing in general. In my honest opinion (and I think most will agree if they are being real). When they came out with high school/college fishing and treating it like baseball football basketball, that was the beginning of troubles. The lakes are just too pressured and technically getting too much and it’s just really sad

Question : Why is it illegal to spotlight deer ? Answer: Because its an unfair advantage . Forward facing sonar is pretty much the same thing . I foresee a lot of state records to fall in the near future. I think this is an issue that will have to be handled at the State level ( Just like spotlighting deer) . Just my $.002 worth.

@muthafukajones1513

2 ай бұрын

Not the same at all. Terrible analogy that you’re just parroting

@fishinjoe9848

2 ай бұрын

Except for the illegal part, it’s a perfect analogy.

@muthafukajones1513

2 ай бұрын

@@fishinjoe9848 Then perhaps you would like this analogy. When you hunt do you go into the woods and shoot blindly until you hit something? Or do you wait for the deer to walk into range, while you’re sitting in a tree stand? Let that sink in.

@geoffstatum7363

Ай бұрын

I guess you hunt with a stick and string right?

Yes Hank you’re right it should be banned in all tournaments. Leave it for us recreational Anglers to enjoy.

If they have the best ratings, why are so many canceling their BASS Memberships?

After filming fishing shows for the last 10 years with a lot of pros, I would be an awe when they opened their boxes and I would see hundreds of different types of lures. I think in a few years there might be about ten different lures in those same boxes. Good Lure companies that has been around for many years will probably go bankrupt because of this. Just one more side effect of FFS!

@marcuskerns2740

2 ай бұрын

Very true and I’m seeing more and more ads for baits that say there made for FFS

The worst thing that I believe is inevitable is that, this new technology is bound to have a catastrophic effect on our fisheries. I want to give you an example. A good friend of mine had not fished much at all since he was a kid. He started crappie fishing and really fell in love with it. Bought himself his first fishing boat, went fishing almost everyday. Year before last 2022 (I believe) he purchased a FFS “Live Scope” unit. That year during spring, summer, fall, and winter he kept a tally of how many crappie that he and his fishing buddy caught. Total? Over 1,800 (eighteen hundred) crappie from this lake. Took them home, gave most of those fish away but kept some for his freezer. Last spring went back to the same lake and caught several early in the season but then as the season went on he was complaining to me about not catching the numbers that he had caught the previous year. BTW, this lake is only 235 acres. As kindly as I could I said, are you kidding me? I have fished that same lake for years and was happy if I could go a few times a year and catch a mess of crappie 6-8 to take home to eat. But with his FFS he practically cleaned this little lake out. This is what concerns me about the sport of bass fishing! Will it not do irreversible damage to our bass populations that before “FFS” had the chance to seek that “refuge” to take that much needed “break”?

One of the best pod cast on this subject I’ve ever watched. I think most people would agree with you guys including me. Thanks guys!

As someone who has been around as long as Hank. I am not a pro angler, by choice I am a weekend fishing fanatic. But I have been around long enough to have witnessed a whole lot of "technology " within the fishing industry. From wooden row boats to 100k plus Bass boats. From cane poles to $100 plus rods.. depth finders... graphs.. digital maps.. spot lock trolling motors... and the list goes on. No bobbers and minnows... no crickets... and that was once a controversy. I was scoffed at from the old timers. When I pulled up with my brand new aluminum bass boat. It had a depth finder and trolling motor. Now I don't know anything about this new stuff. But perhaps the competition organizers need to refocus on the rules in order to keep a level playing field in their organization. The other thing is that the fishing industry needs to take a cue from the racing industry. It used to be the drivers were almost a part of the crowd. Fishing was the the same. The only difference was he made a living fishing and I just fished for fun. Suddenly the new generation has forgotten that. They don't do anything unless they are sponsored and they don't have time to talk to the people... the racing world is suffering from the same thing... and it would be sad to see the fishing world suffer the same fate.

AI technology over the phone can determine if you’re sitting, walking, or standing by infrasound pings and receiving the information. On the same note echo infrasound at a lower level than 20 hz can be sent out and AI can graph to determine and produce a view similar to what livescope does but at super lower frequency than livescope units currently run from the 500-1100 hertz range so Yes the technology is going to get more refined and the advent of multiple transducers polling more data and fast speeds 3 dimensional images is not out of the realm of possibility in 10 years.

Very well explained Guys thank you for a clear look at what’s happening. I have all the equipment and still can’t catch ‘em.

Have Tournaments for guys who wanna use FFS and tournaments with guys who don’t I know I’d watch the ones without FFS

@slabbusterrtr7690

2 ай бұрын

Beat the banks and catch spawning fish it's ok huh??

Excellent podcast!!! Thank you for continuing your voice about it! Personally I think it Needs to be taken out of tournaments. I’m fine with recreational use and pros using it for practice. But needs a total ban on tournament days

Years ago ,say 87-95 , they used to say Lake Norman didn’t have any big fish. Guy that striper fished told me that all the big bass in Norman were schooling with the stripers. He was correct.

Fishing is one of the best ways to experience nature and adventure, we ever came up with ; )

First thing Hank, Mr. Parker I'm loving that you are in the Podcast world. I'm a construction worker, and I listen to a lot of bass fishing podcasts during the day. I'm so glad you are weighing in on the FFS. I hear different host waver back and forth depending on their guests or which tournament is coming up. Before I give my opinion on FFS, I do not fish tournaments and do not have this technology on my boat and probably won't have it unless it's on the next boat I buy. It doesn't stop me from watching the live streams because it is cool to watch the lurer dance around the fish and the fish attack it or just ignore it. I do think it gives you an opportunity to catch untouched bass as it has shown. What the long term effects are I couldn't begin to tell you. However, I do have an opinion on the preservation of the sport. You can not stop technology. However, you should not skip past the basics of bass fishing or any sport for that matter. However I do not think that FFS should be allowed in high school fishing tournaments and only one transducer allowed in college tournaments. Because this is the new stepping stones to professional bass fishing. This will allow anglers to learn bass behavior at a basic level before they have to get into the $$$$ to compete.

I’m a causal angler. I fish 50% with ffs and 50% beating banks. I LOVE FFS because I get to learn fish behavior. I can fill the boat with crappie; which is a blast. Live doesn’t cost 50k. You can get it for 4-5k. Are we going to ban 250 motors? What about 30 $400 rods on the deck? What tungsten weights? What about 36v TMs with lithium batteries? People watched down imaging, maps, side imaging, 360 before live. Where does it end?

@matt.clement.fishing

2 ай бұрын

To be clear I think it’s fine to limit to one or two transducers. But to ban FFS totally is a bit much to me.

@PeterWFishing

Ай бұрын

great comment!

Thank you Hank and company…. ❤❤❤

Hank you are such an inspiration. It would be great to meet you some day. God bless..

Hank I’m glad to hear you say the truth about the young scoopers having skill unlike those who say they dont. Anybody knows it takes skill to be good at it.

Great observations and points of view! Well said and glad yall standing up instead of sitting down in this time. It does need to be regulated some way and some how.

Thank you sir for all you have done and do for the sport.

Absolutely great show. Great insight and I totally agree with yall! We got to put some breaks on this stuff!

Forward-facing sonar is the equivalent of replacing a baseball pitcher with a digital machine that can calculate pitch style and speeds greater than any human can attain. It creates a technological advantage beyond competition for both predator and prey. The ability to spotlight fish negates fair chase.

@jacklandsawjr1394

2 ай бұрын

Would you say this about trail cams food plots? Or maybe there should be a fishing season that’s what hunting does. But it’s not about any of that. It’s about the money. We can all be honest about that. Not sure why these retired anglers are making a fuss. Must need views and likes. Oh damn, I’m a view…..😮

By the way Hank . Thank you . Great video and info!

Excellent video !

Great job!!

When Obiwan speaks it is a good idea to listen.

I have these type of convos for over 1 year now. You’re telling me that there is not enough people in the bass fishing industry that would take a stand if someone with a vision and money like Ray Scott … start a NEW BASS tournament and keep the traditions? Surely there is someone with deep pockets and influence to start a new league and let the market decide…. Whenever people start bailing out on BASS … it will open their eyes to what people really want. Anglers need a new league with a vision that is about fishing and tradition.

Can home school kids get into this , we are in north Dakota

If Forward Facing Sonar is too expensive for some high school anglers to afford then eliminate spot lock trolling motors and shallow water anchor systems too. You can’t bring price into this and pick and choose which is acceptable and which isn’t when they’re all expensive. I can promise they have one of these items on their bass boat.

They don't like that beam bouncing off of them. It's gotta go or be regulated and not just tournaments. Fair Chase Matters and it's demeaning to the fish and to traditional anglers.

I grew up fishing banks, with you in admiration

You’ve been the most respected I’ve seen speak about ffs and I appreciate it

You nailed it when you said before FFS fish had a sanctuary on where to go when weather or fishing pressure . 🎣

@muthafukajones1513

2 ай бұрын

That is false based on science

Infant stages = 20 years from now ffs will tell you where the targets species is located and what lure will work before the as soon as the boat is in the water.

Well said!

FFS concerns me because we have a small 700 acre lake in my area, that is known to have some big fish. Except during the spawn, it's a tough lake. Water is only 20' deep at any point. It gets written about, Zona comes and does a show there. People come from other states to check in out - but with FFS I'm afraid they can wipe out most of the big fish, or at least educate them, to where the fishery declines. The part Hank talks about enjoying the outdoors, the eagle flying over, the fresh air and the escape from screens and phones and cars, that's why I fish.

There’s a reason why baseball, golf and other sports don’t allow certain technological advance with equipment on the pro level. There should be limits to the amount of units and maybe it should be used in practice days but something needs to slow down some.

What a great show Hank. Totally enjoyed.

Correct me if I’m wrong but I can’t remember if it was you tube or I read it but there has been reports of accidents happening on the water with folks looking at there screens? Kinda like texting and driving maybe

@muthafukajones1513

2 ай бұрын

Stop listening to Randy’s daily conspiracy theories. Zero truth to that except in Randy’s head

Great and balanced discussion, refreshing! A few points: 1) 36:26 A few years ago this is EXACTLY what anglers were saying about using a dropshot on fisheries like the St-Laurence and Lake St-Clair. They'd rather be power fishing but using a dropshot was the winning technique. When you are fishing for a living, you gotta use what works, your feelings don't really matter. Adapt or be left behind. 2) 37:18 you can use just about as many techniques with FFS as you could without IF you understand how the technology works. Dropshot, ned rig, crank bait, jerk bait, swim bait... any number of techniques. Ffs just gives you a clearer view of whats going on under the water. 3) 40:45 and 42:07 Im glad that both you gentlemen said that because these are a group of talented individuals who fish at the professional level. They are not less talented than previous generations just because they use ffs. 4) 51:30 This is why biologists need to keep an eye on fish populations. If anglers catch fish they haven't caught in the past, we will need to observe some empirical evidence to see if there is an impact on the population VS just assuming they are getting decimated or assuming it is not changing anything.

I can remember the day I got totally hooked on bass fishing. I was sitting on the cowling of a Johnson 6 hp motor and through a Crème sky blue worm to shallow spawning bass. A huge wake moved off the bank and Glory to God I felt that bite. I was hooked, you can’t do that looking at a screen.

Well said Hank. Fishing and local level tournament fishing has been part of my life for over 50 years, and there's nothing better than a day in Gods creation. Technology is an ever changing progression of evolution, and I accept that, and I as well know that it's much harder for me to win, so I've set my goals lower just wanting top 10's. I'm an Engineer so I totally understand the technology, but I'll stay true to my style of fishing because my win is putting the puzzle together with a Rod and reel and covering water like I've always done. 👍

Great conversation. If you only listen to 2 minutes listen to the last 2 minutes of this episode. He sums it up wonderfully at 1:02:00 until the end.

It’s the young anglers business to learn traditional bass fishing the same as it’s the older anglers business to learn to use ffs to be able to complete if either group are going to be competitive.

Good show, guys

Wait and see approach on FF sonar usage got the sport to where it is today. If it would have got banned earlier would have been easier than today. Now will be easier than a couple of years from now. I think a hard stance against it is needed but doesn’t seem like the Pros are willing to pull together to make it happen. As amateurs start getting proficient with FF sonar even smaller lakes already under constant fishing pressure will become worse fisheries. The sport needs better fisheries not better technology.

Take away the game boy and let’s see them work a seasonal pattern!

@slabbusterrtr7690

2 ай бұрын

Most that's catching them now would still catch them you think they got to where there at cause of FFS ?? It's only been around 8 years and they really only started using it in BASS last couple years

If the fisheries management enforces the creel limits and size limits like they do on walleye on lake Erie, no amount of technology is going to harm the fisheries.

Love my livescope you guys crazy

AMEN! Hank.! I’m agree with your points

Very good show.

The cost is the main factor- remember when I was younger and myself and my brother fishing & BASS members and we local tournament fishing out of our 16ft Bassboats we always had a way and a chance to get to the big show- example is 1994 RIP- Bryan Kerchal, local guy who won the big show- today if you can't have 150,000 plus rig to even have a chance. // Your co-host has no clue! He does not represent or know 95% of us Bass fishermen. He is inside a bubble. // I tried to watch MLF and Bassmaster's - was very boring.

Good stuff

I like the idea of having at least a couple tournaments a year when it is not allowed, although I have a feeling the young guys people feel only win by scoping will still do well.

Fantastic video guys. Been watching you ever since you introduced the bagley DB3on lake Barkley many years ago. I agree with you on everything you say and I worry about the youth whose parents can’t afford to put all the electronics on their boats. Thank You from my heart my friend

I have learned over the last 10 years at 20 now I have became one of the best angles I know with out using forward facing sonar just knowing how fish act in different conditions and how the lake is setting up

Hank, being a recovered alcoholic, I could justify every wrong action I ever took. And could spin a narrative for every action that even you and I sometimes would believe. But after going to a bottom based on actions taken and seeing the absolute truth I know where I was wrong today. I think in the future we will see truth about FFS. Old men and women can see truths more clearly than young men and women, that is a truth! Just like a book that was assembled in around 300 A.D. that is still holds true today. We see what they cannot. Sometimes we have to bottom to see the truth, that may be where we are going. But the verbal justification of FFS sounds way too familiar to me. Time will tell. And you are right, the field is not level at this time in history. Sometimes time takes time, but truth will always rise to the top in the end. That was promised us in the beginning and in nature and advancement itself. And when we can get the human not to use and depend on his mind or senses. You absolutely destroy critical thinking in the human mind. My two cents for what it’s worth. Great open minded video ladies and gentlemen!

I agree there needs to be some sort of regulation for tournaments, however, we could do the same thing with hunting. Compound bows, Crossbows, high powered scopes rangefinders game cameras. I mean where would you like to stop. Baiting deer with corn it’s literally endless. I think we’re going to raise awareness and get peta involved if we don’t watch ourselves.

It’s going to take people like Hank Parker to step up and recognize that forward facing sonar is bad for the sport and we need to get back to more traditional fishing tournaments or it’s going to go downhill fast or get more divided each day thank you mr ParKer for bringing this up

Id be in favor of allowing FFS in the warmups only. Allowing anglers to figure out what works and what doesn’t quicker. However, during the actual tournament’s, no FFS. Instead having to rely on instinct and their own abilities

I have a lot of respect for you I understand what are you coming from end of the day it's all about the sponsor and money

I refuse to watch a FFS event. I am sure that I am not alone.

@mattowens719

Ай бұрын

You are not

Some good points talked about and I feel very much the same way on most of the areas covered. I had similar concerns and views prior to listening to this podcast. In my opinion FFS has its place more as a learning tool and should be limited to practice periods only in regard to Professional fishing. I don't think it should be allowed during official competition hours. Additionally, I have concerns on how the bass will find so called sanctuary areas now if the current path is continued. Also agree with Hank that in the next 3-5 years these units will be telling you size and species of fish you are looking at as well as possibly what baits may work best to trigger the bite... Lastly as stated in podcast I fish for the overall experience and part of that enjoyment is finding the fish and then trying to get them to bite. Staring at the screen all day isn't something I find enjoyable either.

Technology and the innovative uses are ever changing. I say let the free market system work, those opposed to FFS can start up a new tournament platform where it is not allowed and if it what’s the majority in bass fishing wants it will be a success and have more competitors than the other tournament trails.

This has probably been said, but this kind of fracture to a sport can lead to entire new "leagues." A brand new organization with ALL the anti-FFS bass pros, where the technology is ruled out could be the ticket. Maybe a variation? A three-day tournament where FFS is allowed on day one only, or one day only?

I have a suggestion for tournaments. First 2 days to qualify should be without FFS. FINISH with FFS

Hank, I think you made a very valid synopsis with the baseball and golf references. Mark Menendez just made some very valid points on another broadcast I saw yesterday. I think that FFS does negate a lot of experience that is gained over years of fishing. If B.A.S.S. is going to keep it they need to distinguish if accomplishments and tournament wins are made with or without FFS. One thing that forward facing sonar does is it allows an angler to locate fish that they normally would not be able to find. Now a fisherman can sit on a primary or secondary point where the fish should be at this time of year and FFS takes the guesswork out of where the fish is exactly. FFS even allows the fishermen to target a specific fish within a school of fish that he locates with the sonar. It is kind of like spotlighting deer and shooting the trophy buck. I don't think that they should use it on tournament days, possibly they could use it during practice to try and locate fish but not on tournament days. You are absolutely right, the fish are getting no breaks or grace period with the use of FFS. Parameters need to be set. 😕

I guess you and my favourite nascar driver were best buds. I am humbled and would call you a friend. A friend of Dale sr is a friend of mine. Just wish I could’ve shown him st Lawrence River. That would’ve been awesome

Pretty soon they will have “AI” built into these damn units that will tell you where the fish are and then guide you there step by step!!!!!

I just wanna say it in this in this way. When do we look as Bass fishing like the MLB.. they dont allow Aluminum bats, Corked Bats, or steroids.. to pretect the sport. When does the Bass fishin world do the same to protect Fishin. I know it doenst not make the fish bite. But it does Create a benefit to those well trained in it. But like in Baseball they still have to hit the ball yes.. but the benefits in new tech on bats would and does change the game. Just my 2 cents.

Hey Hank Parker's Outdoor Magazine, would you upload anymore full throwback episodes of Season 3 of Hank Parker's Outdoor Magazine from 1987?👍

Not getting into the FFS deal, no dog in that a fight but at 51 I still love to fish a bobber of any sort! Easpecially with a shiner or worm. Even in the salt where I live fishing a popping cork with a live shrimp or mullet minnow? A grub? Watching that bobber disappear is just one of my biggest thrills, Cheers Sir

Wow again. The overlap from this conversation to so many other areas of life is so relevant right now. You do not have to be a fisherman to listen to this conversation and say yup. This is a microcosm of life in the modern world.

@AT6er

2 ай бұрын

Is it common in those other sports to use prototype tools not approved by the league and available to everyone? No it’s not,apples and oranges.

Hank and his partner are gentlemen. Just this morning I heard yet another TV fisherman (Jon Thelen who, by the way, closed comments on his website) endorsing and urging fisherman to buy live scope- style equipment on his program based in the Midwest. He strongly "recommended" that, because of the infestation of mussels, the clarity of many lakes/waterways has changed significantly. (Apparently, he believes we've been asleep for the past 10 years.) Jon stated that, if we want to continue to catch fish (he spoke specifically of walleyes), we would need to purchase more electronic gear such as live scope. This comes from a guy who is already running around in a fully rigged, $60+k(?) boat/trailer rig that, if he paid for it at all, was purchased at a fraction the rest of us would have paid. He didn't focus on selecting the right baits and fishing them at the right depth, etc. And, he never mentioned that many of us have been catching fish on very clear lakes for the last 125 years without emptying our pockets buying and using live scope type "stuff." Those of us opposing this equipment, for whatever reason, may well be facing an uphill battle but I think it's worth it. Keep on fighting the good fight and improve your catches by getting smarter on the water, not simply by spending thousands on electronics.