all my professors ever did was pass out the sylabus with due dates and grade term papers all of this for 70,000 in student debt. Thanks Monroe College

You speak of something that resonates a mutual frustration for all of us. Yet, the only fields that provide a hands on work experience are found in the areas that are either less paid or looked upon as less than (Music, Sports, Dance, Art, to name a few...) as opposed to those areas that are given more attention to.

Spot on, Jack. However, I do not expect the universities to bell the cat on this - they are far too dependent on the current model to be able to change effectively. For me, the biggest thing they fail at is teaching people an Industrial-era thinking concept - that is, if you read these textbooks, you will be able to solve average problems with the standardized, average solutions we will provide you in your degree. The fact that this concept is out of date is something that the general public has not yet broadly woken up to, but they need to. In the modern world, people make a difference by being able to solve difficult, non-standardized problems and to innovate by challenging assumptions.

this is SO SPOT on. as someone who has gone through university, 12 years later, I can say without a doubt, that in hindsight I would have chosen to enter the workforce earlier than attended university. I had a great time at uni though, and wasn't much to do with the actual education, rather the community aspect. How relevant to me as Jack is speaking at the very university I studied...

This talk confirmed much of my own experiences, I went to Chester university close to my home town in the North West on England, when I started they were charging around £3650 per year, we were using out dated material, and within a few months of starting my business degree they discontinued the program but we had to complete it or loose our places and our fees. Then during the second year when the government removed the fee cap they went up to max, even after saying they would wait and build a better offer. Most universities upend their fees to the max without upping their investments. I spent my second year at an American university in Wisconsin, and I felt like i had gone back to the early years of high school. I felt sorry for the other students paying something like $20k+ per year for 4 years and the universities can turn around last minute and say you need to do more credits. The whole system felt like a cash cow. I will not even get started on my high school experience, I am looking for ways to be apart of the disruption because No child should be forced to endure this system.

In 2020 the situation is a lot worse... It’s one thing to tell people to question the higher education that they choose for themselves, once they have reached graduation (from lower schooling) age, and quite another to realize that you haven’t been given the tools or the type of thinking that would honestly and actually allow you to think about that choice in honesty and with objective information that you have (haven’t actually) acquired throughout your previous schooling journey. The real conversations will begin when all separated subjects are connected to present the bigger picture, for they are all parts of the one reality we have cut up into isolated pieces, losing our self in the process.

Wonderful talking, Jack. Absolutely agree with your criticism! But... What to do? What and how should be changed? We have certain ideas. How to discuss them with you?

Is a higher degree useful for the students and is it what the world needs? Very good questions to be asking. Great talk.

Well spoken! Wow, not investing in improving education sounds ridiculous.

Jack, your talk confirmed my own experience.After completing a Masters degree I declined to follow on with a PhD because academic degrees have limitations I.e. they couldn’t in my case provide me with a functional skill set to add value to a career change.I have noted that disrupters like the internet in cohorts with digital platforms can offer solutions to a revised cultural education shift.

You're right jack knowledge makes everything Not college education they only teach

Great talk Jack!

Great speech by a great speaker. I am sure that by now my generation(millenial) and the younger generation are waking up to the reality that college is no longer a guaranteed of upward mobility. Online platforms like udacity and udemy are going to playing a big role in disrupting the industry so too will bootcamps (if done right). it is going to result some colleges shutting down, as of now college enrollment has been declining.

Worlwide. Believe it.

yes 100% ok

BINGO!!

This was a great talk but universities are not the problem. Businesses using the degree as a filter to accept or reject people is the problem.

@coryascott

5 жыл бұрын

bonadventure Conyers as an employer, I don’t care much about the education section of someone’s resume. I care far more about work ethic, resourcefulness, adaptability, and actual work skills. Not just study skills.

@FlyingMonkies325

3 жыл бұрын

Noop they only believed that since the 1950s because they were too blind to see what was being taught in schools and how when colleges became a thing everywhere then, Can we just all admit we had the wool pulled over our eyes and were duped for the past 70 years? for a while now though Certifications and Degrees have been meaningless, more and more people started coming forward in the middle 2000s , then 2010 and onwards how they weren't being accepted for their seemingly swanky Degrees because Employers started questioning what we actually know the Practical Skills we have and A LOT of people pretty much half or most of us that go through them know very little not near enough of what's expected us to know and that's not employers expecting too much that's colleges teaches us too little and in a way where we don't remember most of what they claimed to get through to us when the expectations of the quality of teaching these days is so so low that you might as well not bother lol. Plus they're just giving all forms of Certification out like candy and the Certification Companies don't give a damn they just turn the other way which yes is a scam, all they want is to keep us believing it's gonna help us so they can rake in the money and Primary and High Schools help them especially here in England where we choose which High School we get a placement at and then which College or now even University, i mean clearly there's not something wrong about favoring people in School over those who aren't and just filling the classes with them... How easy that really was lol when nothing is THAT easy in life, sure... not everybody gets in either but it's iffy to let at least 15 - 30 people into it so easy lol, What the heck do they think they'll learn at University too if it's no better than what happens in High School? and Who pays for it? their parents and A LOT of money like several Thousand. Employers just see the system for it is now and really aren't taking it too seriously now so... not so much do they use it as a filter anymore.

@bonadventureconyers2015

3 жыл бұрын

@@coryascott Yes, many employees say this then allow their HR department's first filter be spelling and grammar errors in the resume. The next filter is education. Then a few other arbitrary filters if the pile is too large. Finally, the hiring manager gets to look at the resumes.

They don't talk about how you can make $50,000+ on a trade, WITH a paid apprenticeship. A system that only supports the exceptional isn't going to stand.

Question it - student has limited choice.. most of the students do not want to risk self-learning, do not want to step out the mainstream.. it is the government and university that needs to question as frequently as possible and update the curriculum Master/Mentee - a scaffolding set up consisting of teachers, guides, mentors, counsels, coaches are required for effective student development Embrace failure: it is ok to fail and spend more time in the university.. outcome of everything that happens in university (including failure) is learning.. mentors/coaches have to stimulate reflection I recommend Reflection practice as the fourth item for development . Students have to become reflective practitioners capable of sustained self-learning

I only go to university because in my country it’s free. Otherwise I would not even bother.

It was never what we needed because no matter what era we've lived in and currently live in Skills are always what we need, in the days of the Vikings they needed practical skills to farm, build, sew, cook, fight and a bunch of others things too and before that and after that too and even today we find the same thing is true no matter how it changed to use technology we then need to know how to use that technology, the skills to build it, code it, make software and a bunch of other things too both Math and English is learning a Skill too. There's only so far you can go in teaching someone and it's fine with a subject you can sit down and learn but most things in this world need Practical Skills and it's not okay to make people believe we can learn anything and everything in schools, colleges and universities that's such a lie and misleading and the only reason it was relevant and seemed to work since schools started to be everywhere and since the 1950s when colleges started to be built everywhere is because they too believed them when they said they could learn anything and everything and employers were equally dazzled but i think the first warnings started in the 1960s when Teenagers started dropping out of high school then leaving home to join the Hippie Movement very lost, some doing unrealistic things and teenage girls returning back home with a baby because the guy that got her pregnant left her for another girl who probs did the same to them... leaving them to live on Food Vouchers and some understanding they needed to get out there and make realistic choices and find some way to gain some realistic experience and skills because the schools made them very unhappy, weren't teaching them anything, they were bored and unchallenged and knew they were being failed. More and more today teenagers leave High School because of that last part which is absolutely true and they understand what is happening perfectly but they do everything they can to convince you to stay, make you think you're really gaining something real for yourself by appealing to the ego so they can stop us coming to that conclusion and progressing as a person, And for what? money? How is that right? but it's how they "teach" you and what they give you, how the information is presented to you it's designed to confuse, stress you out and waste a lot of your time and because they don't teach you what to do with that information and don't want us finding ways around things we don't know what to do to work around how they present the info thus remaining in a perpetual state of being stuck and never learning, it's any wonder people now today have no Problem Solving Skills and lack common sense when we NEED to find a way around things to learn and in the way WE understand things, humans have been doing it since the birth of our species and it's an ability we were born with but we need to have a full understanding of what we're doing and how to work around different things and problems, Why did it become right to oppress that?. That plus Practical Skills is what we always need no matter what era we live in and without it, Who are we? What are we as a planet? i've no idea... if we don't know who we are and can't make our own choices then... we might as well be dead, Governments only oppress that because if everyone had practical skills they couldn't hoard the world's wealth and resources but wealth is just another concept created by them and those who thought they were above us in the past, we can have everything we want if we don't hold each other back and work together, imagine where our world could really be by now if we let that? oppression really doesn't serve anyone especially when you could be the richest man in the world and yet you still aren't happy. It took me a long time to figure so much out but the past couple years and deciding to finally let go of The Education System it's been the best choice, and if someone could have just pointed out the truth to me when i was 15 i would have gladly hopped right into something where i'm already in Work if it's Training or whatever it would have been SO much better then another 5 and a half years endlessly wandering through course after course not knowing who i am and what i want.

I am from non EU country, i paid the tuition fee and all of the costs around it ( which I borrowed from a bank) why ? Bcuz if I don't have a student visa, there is almost no other way to get to EU pool of employment. I got employed 2 months after I moved to one country, got offer from another one moved, 2 years later got even a better one from the third country. Sooooo sorry to say but for NON EU folks ,traditional universities are the only to prove ourselves to society ... unfortunately

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