I love printf cannon rushes.

@ZerglingLover

13 күн бұрын

I love to *watch* printf cannon rushes. He is, as PiG said, a nightmare to play against.

@James-uk4xi

13 күн бұрын

@@ZerglingLover Like me, I'm sure they don't have to worry about that unless printf suddenly starts smurfing

@forresttovar2385

13 күн бұрын

they say 100,000 hours is mastery. If you spend that on cannon rush.... Damn.

@jayg1552

12 күн бұрын

And I love watching him lose. Also the salt mines

Printf is a legend for sending in the first game

@XanderCrews4Prez

13 күн бұрын

legend for sure

@ashoka9306

3 күн бұрын

got to be a real one for submitting your ass-kicking because its funny

Mitchy is going down the basement to find the circuit breaker

Psionic is truly a based protoss nerd

Saw the first game live ... it was epic ! PrintF was shocked ^^

Getting in Mitchy's head at the end shows just how much PiG has to contain his SALT on the ladder. He knows this man's heart.

6:36 now that's a real proxy xD

@kindlin

12 күн бұрын

The ultimate proxy. Whose base is this? Mine. All bases are belong to me.

that first game's punchline was amazing. 2:18 The easiest way to tell a stacked probe from a single probe, is the particle effects of the probes movement. The little tail of energy that comes out of the back is much brighter when its a stacked probe.

When the probes are stacked perfectly, the biggest giveaway to me in the glowing blue contrail behind them. It is much bolder, and more opaque then that of a single probe. (then again you also have to actually look at the probe as it passes your own probe)

@GruppeSechs

13 күн бұрын

I noticed that too. There's less interruption between the little probe farts.

@alviworld

13 күн бұрын

99.9 looks at that probe in the minimap

@kennethcarozza6147

13 күн бұрын

@@GruppeSechs 🤪

Amazing. And no one was thinking "calm down"! That was nuts.

lol so funny when you went through Mitchys thought process at the end of the game 😂

@Zeuts85

12 күн бұрын

Yeah I was laughing so hard. Pig should do standup.

Amazing! The knowledge of cannonrush goes several layers deep too!

Ahh, such a great way to start my morning. Thanks Pig, this was fun

@paulbarclay4114

13 күн бұрын

2nd game was truly goated

Wow! That is one valiant stand and one sinister victory. Seeing this, I feel dirty but in good way.

PrintF is a Giga Chad, but to fall for the Florencio special, I'm rock hard! I'm just a teenage mermaid baby, swimming through sewers lately, oh woo woo wa baby!

The light trail on the stacked probes betrays it

@formes2388

Күн бұрын

unfortunately, to realize, you have to see it. A lot of the time, all you see is the blip on the mini map, while your workers cross paths - and you don't actually see the trail until it is too late.

that Mitchy v printf early game up to 7min gametime so far is one of the MOST stressful situation I've actually FELT in a LONG TIME and i haven't played and LMAO i CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ALSO SAW BUMFIGHTS ALL THE WAY IN AUSSIELAND THAT IS A HILARIOUS USA UNDERGROUND VID that you described 100% accurately, "you KNOW its wrong but omg I CAN NOT LOOK AWAY!"

PiG… Appreciate all your content. Keep sending printf videos please!

printf's been doing the same thing since forever. I would have gotten bored 10y ago with the same types of games all the time.

@jkkim6928

13 күн бұрын

Yeah those two games look exactly like the type of games we see all the time on ladder or on the pro scene right? /sarcasm

@Leonhart_93

13 күн бұрын

@@jkkim6928 I meant for himself. Would I play that on repeat for years for no other reason than to entertain the viewers? Far too big of a commitment, unless I would make significant money out of it.

@dpend

13 күн бұрын

Eh, cheesy games can be quite fun and dynamic, low economy, high micro focus and lots of freedom in your response. I could see how he’s still having fun with it

@dpend

13 күн бұрын

Personally tho no, I couldn’t possibly play cannon rushes every game 😂 I actually don’t do it at all because I just don’t find it that fun

@Leonhart_93

13 күн бұрын

@@dpend Fun and dynamic? Play some of those on the ladder, then track the % of games where they will curse you with all kinds of language. Hell, they sometimes do that for even normal games, I can't even imagine.

lol printf you are a legend for sharing this

Loved it Pig. This was wild

omg... i can NOT BELIEVE the RESULTS of game 2...... this hearts my soul

That was wild!! Loved it! And yeah, completely agree on the fast forwarding, most caster videos are great, but too long too watch for someone with somewhat of a job and life.

what a legend printf

Those were amazing games. We need more king of cannons

I think the tell is the exhaust, it's way more pronounced in the stacked probes

LOL! "This reminds me of hobo brawls"

Wow, Psionic just Fist of the North Star'd him in the first game lol.

1st match was hilarious loved it, 2nd match was a heart breaker man

@soldier22881

13 күн бұрын

it was a really awsome fight at the start

protip for catching stacked probe rushes: look at the blue tail the probe leaves behind. for a single proble it's a faint blue trail. for stacked probes its a BRIGHT light. very obvious if you know to look for it

Hope everything is ok PiG. You got this

It's the price you pay when you're a one-trick cheeser- You get inflated MMR at the cost of most people bm'ing and disliking you

Pro level cheese. I didn't think it existed.

This makes me smile

LMAO PERFECT COUNTER!

The part I like the most about this game is when it throws new challenges at me and as you noticed, it is interesting to see chaos bringing GM players into plat league territory reactions. I am wondering if there would not be a way to create a competition where this kind of things would be forced a bit more? Maybe with some randomness in the maps that can't be prepared beforehand, forcing the players to be creative (and careful)?

I don't mind fast-forwarding, but I find jump-cuts to be very jarring. There's a lot of SC channels I don't follow due to clipping everything up to just the "action" and then I have no sense of how the game is actually flowing.

9:45 Mitchy should have target only the gateway that was blocking his mineral patch with his 2 zealot and already send his 2 stalker accross the map. Instead he lost lot of time destroying useless building and lets printF build his defense. I says that but i would never had survive as long as he done!! Really GG to both players!!

Probe stack is easy to see. Its the blue tail that gives it away. Its more the fact it looks like one on the mini map, and if its seen, it is glanced at and attention goes back to something else.

It's not about the mmr it's about sending a message

lolol really wild game xD

the pylons in the mineral line were absolutely VITAL to keeping him in it. had he not done that i fully believe 2 immortals would've made it as well as doing what you said with force field

Game 2 was epic af! It's like watching a GSL finals, and it's game 7! Hats off to Mitchy for defending that brutal onslaught, I was rooting for him all the way.

As a Zerg, I often thought "let my overlords vomit creep without a Lair so I can give them a taste of their own medicine".

@formes2388

Күн бұрын

Losing to cannon rushes is... a special kind of awful. It's super scoutable, and yet: It kills players. It's like if you haven't played for awhile, and forget the DT timing and... suddenly there are invisible men killing you. Or you hop into a team game for whatever, and early game pressure doesn't happen, and the viking fleet just... lands on a mineral line and it's like "whelp, they are done". And then it starts to make sense why there are players that cheese all game, every game in that scenario.

@vonk5463

Күн бұрын

@@formes2388 Even if scouted, the skill required to counter it is far more important than the one to do the cheese. On one side you only control a probe (or two), on the other end you have to manage your workers and you base. For a low level players it's a big difference. And when they don't commit or fake it, you lost so much mining time it's not possible to come back. As a Zerg, as you can't wall off, they have easy access to your main as well. I prefer by far bunker rushes as they are really more fair....

that's a very flattering shirt you're wearing

Probe stacking. Florencio invented that right? Did Florencio tactic just beat the king of cannon? The cheese of cheese! The super cheese!

@plsnomore

13 күн бұрын

No it wasn't him, saw this trick done by one of EU's GM many years ago.

@alviworld

13 күн бұрын

its been arround since bw

@tomhe286

11 күн бұрын

It is more than 20 years old strategy. So Flo didnt quite invent it :D

@Florenciosc2

11 күн бұрын

@@tomhe286 I've been playing SC since 98' I had done this probe trick since Fastest Map Possible.

@Florenciosc2

10 күн бұрын

@@plsnomore Id love to see the video you say you saw my probe stack done.

Awesome games to watch

7:15 - When at the freaking 7 minute mark no one has built anything in any natural expansion while BOTH are battling over building rights in the same base no one can complain about being excited Can you send these to WinterStarcraft? Hopefully he hasn't seen this insanity yet

These cannonrushes.. wowsers

and then Mitchy, at 5.3, went on to meet Harstem twice at 6.6k.. Rough few days

I totaly get those feelings:). I feel so tilted when i defend the first ~30 seconds of the canon rush and then i still loose , its as if i i was robbed of something I deserved (silly feeling but its how it is):)

Best can rush ever

Imagine playing the ladder and you run into Florencio, then PrintF, then uThermal doing one of his "lololol" builds. That sh would make you uninstall immediately.

"This is the dumbest game ever. I love it." Yes!

amazing games

I freaking love watching Printf along with this awesome comentary!

Pig finds the best games wow ❤❤❤❤

Harstem played against mitchy today 😅poor guy he needs a break 😂

Mitchy to "gg" and just leave his computer there, it's painful to watch, he gg'd but couldn't leave that's crazy

Holy hell, what the f are you wearing? Is that a piggy onesie?!

I was rooting for Mitchy there, that was brutal.

This is why you will never see me playing competitive. I would have burnt my house down in hopes printf could see the smoke as my last FU.

@alviworld

13 күн бұрын

braging on how weak you are, exotic.

Thanks!

@PiGstarcraft

13 күн бұрын

Damn soldier thanks for watching and the super! Appreciate all the support lately mate

@soldier22881

13 күн бұрын

@@PiGstarcraft it was an awsome video loved it especially the second match!

@PiG It seems #26 was the last one from a year ago, this should be #27 :)

People copy the genius of Florencio!

I'm a terran player and i hated that cannon rush so much even though it was being done on a toss as well.

how many points in this commentary do you shout the same thing 3 times in a row?

That cannon rush was an absolute circus! I was cracking up watching them. Truly hilarious game play 😂

8:00 eh Mitchy was doing so well but then screws up royally (not sure how/why) but sending all his zealots to attack that pylon and cannon -that only 2 zealots would be able to reach- while he leaves his probes completely undefended and unmicroed vs the opponent's zealot harassment.

@MsHojat

13 күн бұрын

And in my opinion his second mistake (aside from limited micro) was keeping probes on gas when he was starved for minerals and knowingly far behind on economy. And third mistake was killing the gateways in his base when they were useless to the opponent. He should have sent out his units on offense to put stress on the opponent and scout. He would have had 2 zealots and 2 stalkers heading out at 6m45s which would have been able to take out the pylon powering the cannon (because it takes 27s to get there and a 7m12s printf had 0 army units, and _just_ starts a stalker right at that moment. Printf would have had to pull probes and would have lost a good chunk of them.

@ZC.Andrew

12 күн бұрын

​@@MsHojatI agree with you. Mitchell waited way too long for a counterattack. Printf had absolutely nothing to defend for a long time.

How does mitchey have the clarity to still gg but not leave the game lol I think he's broken🤣

Can Printf do this against the pros?

Question : why do the pros dont just full wall their base if they know cannon rush is coming? Then just get your first stalker Isnt it an esy defense then?

@Zanarkendjp

5 күн бұрын

The resources for full wall isn’t there, also the build time. If you full wall you lock yourself in and can’t defend the cannons that will go up in your natural. Go try to do a full wall.

one thing I don't understand about probe rush is uh... why does it work??? Like, ok here he wasn't watching, but why would it ever work if the person is paying attention? shouldn't they have more probe at home than the opponent is bringing? since they've been probbing this whole time the time it takes to traval and the probe rusher doesn't even bring everything. like, numerically shouldn't it heavily favor the defender? I get that you can probably one shot a probe with the initial hit but is that really sufficient?

@tomhe286

11 күн бұрын

It doesnt. It only works against platinium or lowel level players. Of course this game was exception

@Zanarkendjp

5 күн бұрын

The reason cannon rushes work is the cannon rusher is sitting on 16 mining probes and still making more. Meanwhile you’re using your probes (not mining) to fight off the pylons and cannons and gateways. While you’re chasing an enemy single probe with 5 of your own, the other 7-10 are killing pylons and cannons. And you still having done any mining. You’re severely behind eco when you finally hold it. Sometimes a cannon finishes and starts killing.

@Laezar1

5 күн бұрын

@@Zanarkendjp I asked about probe rush not cannon rush

ty so much for 1440, i know it's a pain.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

idk why Mitchy went to stargate and not immortal tech for observer and obviously immortals... plus getting a battery or two + ohh, i just heard you were fast fowarding and now he DOES get a robo up ok.

omagad game vs mitchy legendary

lmao bumfights, classic.

mitchy messed up haaarrrddd. was he afk? literally..??

Wish they would make a fps starcraft id love to go to char and fight the hordes

you shouldn't keep them for so long, I've come back for printf after a month

Printf VS uthermal when?

@Zanarkendjp

5 күн бұрын

UThermal only plays against the metal leagues.

Wanna back you up on the fast forward. Unless you're casting some serious match no need to try and fill time while both players are gearing up for the next phase

lalalalala its Rachel here gagagagagaga

@PiGstarcraft

12 күн бұрын

HAHAHA hi :D

Yeah, back to SC1

Unsalted PvP is still good

Protoss is way too underpowered for anything done against them to be ‘funny’.

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a4Wgl9ein5fRnag.html bro i am absolutely feeling it! 4:32 and the cannonrush isn't over.

Be honest. How long did it take you to recover from that thumbnail face?

That mitchy vs printf game is why I think, as entertaining as it is to watch printf screw with people, I just absolutely hate the meta of cannon rushes and how its not even a drawback to the cannon rusher for their opponent to know its coming. Printf can dump insane amounts of minerals into the cannon rush with essentially no drawback because you're killing your opponent with lost mining time. If it was designed correctly, it should have been unwinnable as soon as the second probe was killed (ignoring subsequent probes, it should be 2 chances and you're done).

@dpend

13 күн бұрын

I still think it’s fairly balanced to be honest, or else we’d see a top pro cannon rushing in tournaments all the time - all the pressure is on the cannon rusher, there are a lot of ways to respond

@Cowclops

13 күн бұрын

@@dpend Its not unstoppable, but printf proves that its not "Just" scouting to beat it, its reacting literally perfectly or you don't have a chance, because printf doesn't hide his identity and never does anything but cannon rushing, not even to mix it up. Because it hits so early it leaves the opponent too few options to deal with besides pull the boys and hope the cannon rusher misclicks or something. Not being unstoppable doesn't preclude it from being bad game design, it just won't ever change because a large swath of people just don't think its a problem.

@ZC.Andrew

12 күн бұрын

It's a huge drawback for the rusher, if the opponent reacts properly. Mitchy kinda panicked a bit and had so many Probes that didn't mine. Those Gateways that went down were everything.

Well THAT lived up to the title! I'm so tired of clickbait casters. What a pleasant surprise.

oh no, there's NO NEED TO CALM DOWN - this is the HIGHEST MOST STRESSFUL SITUATION in a PvP the ONLY thing that comes close to this situation is a ZvZ early zerg rush into a ling v ling/bane into a ling/bane vs line/bane all in...

this game was not meant for that

As a protoss player, I don't even try to defend cannon rushes. If they want to win that badly they can have it. Not sure why it's a thing. Go play tower D games.

bum fights. OMG

I wish printf would coach some top tier pros to cannon rush like a pro