This is the reason I'm critical of Ferrari management. NOTE: this video was under tight copyright lockdown until I was able to get it FINALLY released so there's some audio/pronunciation things I've solved since publishing this. Subscribe if you want more F1 stories otherwise I can't make these because this one in particular will take a beating in the algorithm so I need your help on this one: bit.ly/2T3TGbK . Timestamps below: Series Of Events: 1:42 Leclerc Never ACTUALLY Refused To Pit... His Garage Put Him In An Impossible Spot: 5:27 My Defense Of Charles Leclerc: 6:58 Ferrari Garage Is At Fault: 8:15 Hamilton's DANGER & First Contact With Leclerc's Debris: 19:44 Going Into The Defining Moment: 22:47 PROOF Ferrari Are Open About Not Caring: 24:26 Penalties Are Cited For The Wrong Offense: 29:27 €25,000 Is Child's Play To Similar Punitive Penalties: 33:54

@TrebrehYelir

4 жыл бұрын

Good video. I agree that the fine was a nonfine. But remember the Head of the FIA was a team principal at Ferrari

@TrebrehYelir

4 жыл бұрын

£25K is a bribe

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrebrehYelir hahah a bribe. that's def a cynical way to put it. my public answer is, I don't entirely disagree :)

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

@@TrebrehYelir i'll never let it go as long as I watch F1. Checo got £100K. for a wheel. a damn wheel.

@miroslavdockal9468

4 жыл бұрын

Critical on Ferrari, dear CY, FIA should appear there as a judge, and they should punish everything whats wrong... And they do it, by its own, simply momental "view of whole resolution". After that, everything appears as insult to whole rules, and insult to RedBull. But it happened, and looks like shit happened...... Dear my.... Pure Bullshit.

Just saw this and it really convinces me that: when you have Fernando, Kimi, and Sebastian in the last 10 years and you didn't win anything, maybe you just sucked.

@jamesstewart1794

3 жыл бұрын

True

@XBullitt16X

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed

@mihajlovucinic011

3 жыл бұрын

True, all of them including Massa and Leclerc made some mistakes or were toxic at times but i feel the environment at the team was the key to their failure.

@theclash181

3 жыл бұрын

yup

@blitzy7961

3 жыл бұрын

@Imperator that was 13 years ago

Being a Ferrari fan is such a roller coaster man. The internal politics holds the team back so much.

@largol33t1

4 жыл бұрын

That's one of millions of reasons I can be a Michael Schumacher fan but not a Ferrari fan. They cannot get their act together. Their drivers need to leave and find another team.

@Ticklestein

4 жыл бұрын

Eh, ya gotta love drama if you wanna love Ferrari. They’re Italian AF. It’s what makes Ferrari Ferrari. If you can love that, they’re the team for you. I’ve been fan of them as long as I can remember.

@Ticklestein

4 жыл бұрын

Basically, a choice to be fan of Ferrari is like buying an Alfa Romeo. You know you’ll be at the service shop every month, but you do that. It’s a choice you make with you heart, not your head. (So it’s de facto not a choice)

@arjunsridhar46

4 жыл бұрын

Very Obvious m8 I was conditioned to follow and support them lmao. Everyone at home supports Ferrari and I was brainwashed into doing the same. Glad it happened tbf😅😂

@lespaz1197

3 жыл бұрын

true and yet we know NOTHING of their internal politics. I remember during winter tests, cant remember wich year one really shady guy looking straight like a coke baron was standing in the ferrari box as one of the most prestigous guests. Hand full of gold and the coke nail on his little finger come on. Theres mafia money flowing from all over the world into the scuderia but of course I have 0 proof for that.

I feel like I'm part of a jury in a courtroom. Lol

@okgo8315

4 жыл бұрын

Guilty on ALL counts.

@ntlespino

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the court of public opinion

@jamesstewart1794

3 жыл бұрын

Right ?

@FilthyMind1

7 ай бұрын

Crazy aint it

>controversy >and it involves Ferrari This is the way

@kailashseshadri5964

4 жыл бұрын

The only way

@georgesimon2730

4 жыл бұрын

if you would know italians and work with these people, it would all make sense. an italian with actual common sense is a rare thing.

When Mercedes tells their drivers about ferrari damage before ferrari knows they have damage.

8:53 Mercedes warning Lewis for possible debris coming of Leclercs car can also be to bring that to the attention of race control. I don’t think Lewis could have done something about it, so Mercedes warning Lewis was in fact Mercedes asking Race control to order Leclerc in for a repair.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

It couldn't be anything else, right? Masi looked almost the worst here. Somehow, no one talked about this.

@D25Bev

4 жыл бұрын

Or maybe, call me crazy. They were warning Hamilton of debris so that he can avoid any damage to his own car or himself & for the fact a message like that motivates a driver to get past the damaged car or to make him aware that the car in front will have to pit & won't be a problem for long.

@HighLordBlazeReborn

4 жыл бұрын

@Boris Posavec hmmm it almost sounds as you're defending this behaviour. But that couldn't be, right?

@team3383

4 жыл бұрын

Mercedes AND Hamilton would do ANYTHING to slow down an opponent so if there is even the slightest hint of damage they will mention it. It JUST SO HAPPENS that here the damage WAS in fact serious BUT that leclerc was holding it all together AND in pole position .... You try telling an F1 driver to box when HE feels nothing wrong with the car and he's in front !!! He asked for confirmation they were asking him in because HE thought his car was driveable like it was.

@Conservator.

4 жыл бұрын

Team33 I agree that LeClerc is not to blame. His team should have ordered him to come in because his car posed a danger to others as the FIA had indicated to Ferrari. Imo Ferrari should have had a severe punishment. I don’t know what the regulation allow for as punishments though.

You are really underrated,the content you make is just amazing

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

thank you for saying that. this one was really hard to complete I won't lie. But i like this one more than most of my videos because I had to actively defend a driver I normally don't. It was fun to force objectivity. more to come!

Ferrari pays $25k with one hand and receives $100mil legacy payment Good work if you can get it.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah doesn’t even dent their LST. Good point. Don’t get me started on how it’s the totally wrong penalty. He should have been out of the points. Add that too the fact that stewards waited to investigate his fuel overnight officially in Abu Dhabi bc since they waited it was only a violation of a technical directive , which is no grid penalty. Had they fully investigated it’s a sporting code violation which is grid penalties and likely no it not points. Might have changed his position with Seb...

@Wildturkey10121

3 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport lol the red cars don't ever do anything wrong, you are either not a fan or are new to the sport. Even in the new contract they maintained the extra special payment that other teams don't get. The red car team is corrupt and crap if you ask me!!!!!

@mahdianjumtalukder9220

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wildturkey10121 ok b o o m e r.... The Schumaker glory days are over

@Wildturkey10121

3 жыл бұрын

@@mahdianjumtalukder9220 What do the Schumaker days have to do with anything? My point is that the red car team gets extra special treatment no matter what they do, when they do/did it ect ect...

@EmmanuelChicas

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wildturkey10121 the Schumacher days is what solidified that legacy payment, the Schumacher legacy itself brought in many more fans, sponsors, money into the sport like never before. That’s why they feel like they owe it to them I guess

I’ve said since day1 that Leclerc was getting 0 service from his race engineer.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

hazeluzzell it’s wild I went in gritting my teeth fully anticipating I was going to have to abandon the work if I felt bias but ultimately just was empathetic towards Leclerc. He was no saint here. But he did what I expect a driver to do. Again it’s not “okay” but drivers never were the last line of defense. Thank you for checking it out!

@Buskyb

4 жыл бұрын

hazeluzzell i feel like all the ferrari drivers get too little feedback from their pit crew. Only driver i would think thats not a problem to was kimi

@bassmunk

4 жыл бұрын

@@Buskyb Probably cuz he tells them what he thinks to their face and doesn't put up with BS lol He doesn't have time for games

@shaunlevin5081

4 жыл бұрын

His race engineer is like the opposite of someone like bono. If it was someone like Bono, leclerc would know exactly what was happening.

@Asgarniane

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah this exactly. It always seemed to me that his english is so bad that he just doesn't know how to properly communicate enough details to his driver. And some of the drama Ferrari had with their two drivers getting into each other I think could equally be blamed on Leclerc's engineer poor communicating skills

Dude this was an extremely comprehensive and unbiased look into this incident and for my two cents I cannot identify any shortfalls in ANY of your logic or arguements. Great job

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

I love all feedback and I’m getting it this video but this kind of feedback is awesome when earned. This was very very early in my video creator journey and I’ve since fixed quite a bit in production but to this day this is still the story I’m most proud of in terms of depth, analysis and proof. It’s just a shame it took me so long to legally get it lifted from a copyright strike all the momentum was crushed as I’m sure that was someone’s goal but I’m just happy people see it now

@edyvrg8393

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport in my opinion, this was biased. But then again, I don't mind that. If you are an f1 fan it's nearly impossible not to be biased towards your favourite driver, in my case Vettel. Great video nontheles, you spent some good hours on research, right?

@ericrobinson8512

4 жыл бұрын

@@edyvrg8393 I agree the commentary is most definitely biased. I also agree this is a great, eye-opening video that the author spent a lot of time on.

@davidkoreck1341

4 жыл бұрын

No cares what you think casual your just a drama queen and a sensationalist cry about carbon fibre against racing helmets what a prick you are you probably think people who use word salad are smart too

@davidkoreck1341

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport what see your bullshit

Can I just say that I have been a Ferrari fan since I can remember a damn thing in the world, but this video seriously challenged how I feel about them as a racing team. Great work good sir! Salute to you.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

there is no higher compliment you can give to a content creator. thank you for saying that! but still keep me honest. My goal isn't to make Ferrari fans not want to support Ferrari. Just to shed light. many watch this and roll their eyes like we have seen this before. But it's rare for a Ferrari fan or any fan of any team for that matter to REALLY dig into a problem with their team. and receive the information in good faith. so thank you for viewing with an open mind I think that's how we can best discover all this together . Much more to come!

@andrewm4951

4 жыл бұрын

Renhao Wu coming from an italian family canadian. I too have been a ferrari fan since i can remember. I took a break a few years from f1 and have recently came back. Some how i have lost my love for the team and drivers. I cant stand the ferrari team boss. Oddly i have been liking verstappen and also hamilton.

@andrewm4951

4 жыл бұрын

Matia i cant stand.

@davidkoreck1341

4 жыл бұрын

Your a soy boy 1 2 you've probably been a ferrari fan for 2 seconds and its the drivers you support slave

@manjsher3094

4 жыл бұрын

But Ferrari doesn't need you

Leclerc probably couldn't see the extent of the damage at all. The drivers cannot see the front wing and hence it is wrong to assume he could see the sparks. It was very bright, so the light generated from the sparks doesn't make them any more visible. And it's not exactly right to assume he could hear them either. When you're wearing ear plugs, they are designed to filter out especially the louder sounds. But they will inevitably muffle out the less loud sounds too. I'm not sure how much his ear plugs silence the sounds, but if it's at least 30dB, it's safe to assume hearing the front wing brush the ground is not a 100% probability, especially if you also have to focus on driving. But I think you're absolutely right, he should've been told the damage was serious ahead of time. He knew there was damage, but the only thing he knew was that the car did not feel that bad. Also, Leclerc wanting to continue is not him not being intelligent enough. It's him not being experienced enough. He can't assess the gravity of the situation, because he doesn't have the experience for it. Until the mirror started to wobble, Leclerc knew he had damage, but had absolutely no idea how serious it was, only thought it was not too serious, because the car did not feel that bad. If you have a slight drag into the left, that really is not too bad. Not sure what he thought once the mirror started to wobble though. But once again. I'd say he's not stupid, he's just inexperienced. That's why he has the pit wall to back him up though. He's not innocent, that could've been a brutal incident. But yeah... I'm much more worried about what the pit wall was doing than what he was doing, because even if serious, it was still a rookie mistake. What the pit wall did was the highest endangerment.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Richard Urbanec thank you for that very thoughtful comment. At first I thought you were disagreeing but I think as you rationalized that out loud, more or less, it’s the exact route I took. I use those visual cues less as absolute fact he can see but more supplemental to the aero imbalance. I agree with your assessment that might have lead him to feel the car was fine. It’s actually why I made the video. In a lot of ways I have serious issues with the way his driving style shifted after Austria but he’s a future champion and how I feel about that is irrelevant to how I think all champions drive. You don’t win titles moving aside. But he was very unfairly targeted in this aftermath. I don’t care who it is, it’s difficult to really go after a driver given what we know here. I did not think that’s where I’d end up after making this video haha but I can’t believe a garage would do this to their own driver. And no one seemed to care. It wasn’t until this week this video was getting punished by the KZread algorithm as much of contrarian content does. So I’m glad I’m getting more thoughts and input on this you guys have so much to add it’s insane how untapped this all is. Thank you for taking the time to share that

@Moi-Moi1

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport I don't really understand why you are so focus on Leclerc's mirror. A mirror can be damaged but the car still perform well. It gave no indication to Leclerc about how serious the damage was or not. Talking about Ferrari's pitwall... well... they have been pretty consistant during this season😁! This grand prix is just another illustration of how appaling they've been...

@bouteilledeau1463

4 жыл бұрын

@@Moi-Moi1 The mirror has been even more wobbly immediately after the piece took off, so Leclerc replaced it. Where it gets worrying though is where he did that, where I quote Crankee saying "some of the most dangerous set of curves in the world". And of course it was at this moment when the piece flew up and almost gravely injures Hamilton.

@matthewmoseley3899

4 жыл бұрын

Most of the driver's look at the big TV screens as they go around the track . I am sure the leclerc was definitely looking at the big TV screens on that lap . 🇬🇧😎🏎️

@breckr1121

4 жыл бұрын

The team should've told him.

Charles leclerc: tis but a scratch

@rooh5825

4 жыл бұрын

"Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!"

@niemand414

4 жыл бұрын

Some people call me... TIM!!

@lzh4950

4 жыл бұрын

Massa from Hungary 2009 probably be like: Am I a joke to you?

Ferrari: we were just trying to win the race regardless of the risk! Lucifer: I must say I'm a huge fan! I have an offer for you. Ferrari: we signed that contract years ago

This is a very very good video explaining the situation of Ferrari in Japanese GP. Please make more videos like this.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Off season I'll focus solely on it. more to come!

Cracky, OMG. What a video. Respect. U better pray Mercedes doesn't come across this video, otherwise,u can't avoid been employed as their Detective Columbus. Great work pal. I can only what an in-depth research u have done on this video. Thanks for sharing.

@tkf3478

4 жыл бұрын

I can only imagine

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

It was certainly an illuminating exercise. Ironically I take issue with the FIA more than anyone with why they never clarified Leclerc’s rule. I wasn’t sure about this video at the time but after the most recent one and these comments, it’s clear Ferrari fans are equally curious and formula 1 fans in general so long as it’s delivered in a way that lets you make up your own mind. Thank you for checking it out I really appreciate it

@tkf3478

4 жыл бұрын

U have earned a subscriber

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

TKF and I’m grateful!

This is some quality content, probably one of the best videos I've ever seen on this platform, so well explained, detailed, extremly critical. Absolutely amazing!

Thank you for your great explanation of this incident. I've just discovered your KZread site and have subscribed with a thumbs up. Please continue your exceptional coverage. Your explanation of the rules and how they pertained to this incident was very informative. Also I think your use of the pictures was exceptionally well done.Thanks for being as unbiased as possible and please continue what you're doing.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

gwwchem this is so kind thank you for the feedback. This video isn’t as popular my tone was really harsh but it’s because of how this all played out im still to this day bothered by it and how no one cares about what they got away with. I also thought how much I went on about the rules people would hate so I’m glad pulling out the rules line by line was interesting to someone! I surely will keep going thank you for your comment it’s these words that keep me pushing

@andrewm4951

4 жыл бұрын

CrankyYankeeF1 i agree with gw. You have done exceptionally well with the videos. Also subs and likes. As long as you continue to make coverages unbiased you will do great and continue to grow! Great work eh! From Canada!!!

@grapefruit5690

4 жыл бұрын

CrankyYankeeF1 you should do the 2019 Brazilian gp ferrari incident controversy. In my opinion i think Vettel swiped Leclerc deliberately, maybe because he wanted to keep his number 1 spot. Same thing happened in turkey 2010 with webber. You could also do the 2019 Singapore gp ferrari strategy controversy where vettel got ahead of Leclerc. P.S IF YOU FIND THIS COMMENT PLEASE REPLY I WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU THINK!!!! love your videos!

This so well and professionaly delivered! You, my friend, are going places! The way you investigate and thoroughly tell what is what sets you apart!

listening to an american being surprised that ferrari is acting like ferrari is always acting is filling my german heart with a little bit of real joy. there is a reason fia got coined as ferrari international assistance. 40 mins of being surprised ferrari being ferrari.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

iBOOM I guess I just never thought to look. Or we all say these things and I take it as hyperbolic. I thought I was cynical until I completed this research. Holy shit now I’m just downright sour haha American press surely runs cover for this. Good comment though bc without even needing to ask it sounds common it’s buried in Italian and German media. Although I still think people take the FIA meme as tongue and cheek. I’ve had arguments with people who will repeatedly say “Ferrari didn’t tell him to stay out or “well they apologized atleast.” Nah. The opposite. I have the actual footage haha. But ya I feel like I little kid who just wrote a school essay about my angst learning Father Christmas is not real.

@Paul_C

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport funny, you know god isn't real either?

I just found your channel, I love it. Great breakdowns and despite some of the comments, I like the non biassed analysis. Subscribed and looking forward to your next videos. Keep it up!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

It comes with the territory I do enjoy hearing different view points I just do my best on my videos to create an environment where we all don't have to be SO hostile. But It's the internet, after all haha. thank you for your kinda words and look forward to making more content for you!

This content is so good I have to just come re watch it sometimes. Great storytelling !

Dude. This video. So good. 40 minutes of absolutely great, unbiased, fact driven content. Best part was you taking us through the circuit - reviewing the incidents, radio messages and showing us exactly where they were (what turns and what lap) when it happened. I can't imagine how long it took you to do all the research and editing for this; but I can tell you that it was so worth it.

Thank you for 40min of thrilling entertainment! Really amazing content. Cant imagine how much time and effort you put in to make this "documentary". Got an additional subscriber and hope you get more.

From the start I understood why Leclerc wouldnt come in right away. Youre in a twisty, pretty technical track, with compromised aero, fighting hard and actually maintaining, adrenaline is sky high, youre fking jacked, youre RACING, all your instinct is telling you NOT to stop. Shit, just racing in F1 games, if I get damage, I will do everything to convince myself it’s okay. No one wants to ruin a race with a lap 2 pit. Especiallt getting told literally at the last corner, 2 seconds away from passing the pit lane.

I also really liked how your edited it, sometimes rewinding the cars etc. It's great.

This content is some of my favorite on KZread and not just amongst the racing channels but amongst all channels. Keep up the great material.

Team Ferrari so unpredictable....that's what made them to fail in 2019, I feel sorry for the 2 drivers at Ferrari, just imagine if they worked as a team together, maybe then they should have had more points on the scoreboard

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Pretorius Sarel sadly I don’t see them getting another shot to drive after 2020 . It would be nice if they figured this out but even with Seb putting his car into the wall into FP1 already I just can’t see them keeping him.

@rodriguezracer4567

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe? They absolutely would if they would actually work as a team. Its literally the reason why Mercedes is so dominant. They are a well oiled machine of a team

@mohammedrazeenzaeencamil9344

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport Albon crashes a lot in free practice, yet he gets a contract this year, Seb a 4x world champion is very likely to get a new contract

@redneck3693

3 жыл бұрын

@@mohammedrazeenzaeencamil9344 this aged like milk lmao

@mohammedrazeenzaeencamil9344

3 жыл бұрын

@@redneck3693 yeah I know its sad

This content is amazing! Great job putting this together!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

much of the production I've improved this is an older one that has only recently been released after a reversal strike but a fun one indeed! it took dozens of hours to make but this one flew by the fastest no question

love this sort of long form content - Great job

Incredible video. Can't even imagine the time and research put in. Thank you!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ronan :)

3:40 just some light criticism. That's not actually the Suzuka Grand Prix Circuit, It's the Sakitto Circuit, and the picture of the track is from Project Cars 2, which looks alot like the Suzuka track. Now I don't know if this is due to copyright claims, but i just wanted to point it out.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

I try to avoid certain copyright claims at all costs. after over a month locked under seal today marks it's victory against my copyright strike. i'm not even sure what did it but yeah your criticism is more than valid :) thanks for holding me accountable. but yeah when I can't find images or don't want to risk it I just gamble there's only a handful of people like you who are looking that close and when you do clearly you are reasonable to assume there could be a reason but either way i appreciate your insight here!

@andrejdjukanovic8138

4 жыл бұрын

CrankyYankeeF1 Thanks for your response, It’s rare to find a content creator who actually put times into their content and actually read the comments and take the criticism. Something tells me that when you get caught up in the algorithm, this channel will grow at a fast rate.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

@@andrejdjukanovic8138 even that - as much as it sounds nice, I have to focus on you guys. It's been the trick behind why when I posted this video I had 300 subs and 3 months later 15,000. but I'm not even close to where I want to be. But even at 150,000 or 1,500,000 subs, I'll still be chatting with people like you as casually as this. thanks for the feedback mate

Undeniable proof the ferrari has too much sway in f1: - Ferrari might not make it to Australia due Coronavirus FIA: The race will be cancelled - Staff at Mclaren actually get Coronavirus Also FIA: Maaaaaybe we race with 9 teams?

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Long standing rules now immediately in question hahah

@peorakef

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, thats more than edgy actually...

People say F1 is not sporty enough...... Share them this video......... The best F1 channel on KZread

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

That’s very kind of you. As I grow I have more time to improve everything. Even the latest videos have taken leaps forward over this one in terms of quality and I will continue to improve

I really like your channel... sometimes it's very difficult to explain/prove the obvious in a polite way and you do it great !

That happens when you're driven to an absolute frustration by contantly losing to Mercedes. Not defending Ferrari at all on this case.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

I know exactly what you mean. I always think about this like the Flavio syndrome. Want to be a force in the game so bad you find a way to make it so. Tons of people are saying this has always happen but I’ve never seen them be this blatant about it. Seb did this in 2009, Nico In 2016 but all those were final or penultimate lap. This was the very first so there’s absolutely no cover

I'm really glad I found this video, for a start it's very coherent and unbiased. The facts are the facts but I would also love to hear in full your opinion. When this first happened I initially blamed Leclerc and thought it was really irresponsible and had completely forgotten about it in days. But this video really highlighted to me just the severity of the situation and how evidence might suggest that Leclerc wasnt actually the one at fault. He wasnt innocent, but Ferrari are 100% at fault for risking the drivers, fans, and marshalls and they should be held accountable. Fantastic video, thank you

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

I will sometimes share my opinions off this channel but I have to force myself not to get invested in anyone. I cover the season from testing to Abu Dhabi it’s crazy how much people tune out when they know you are biased. BUT that said, I have a strong bias for very literal regulation following. To a fault haha everyone hates it. I had a hard time liking Leclerc as a driver at first. But this was one of my early videos here. If you pay attention closely, you can actually hear me sympathize more and more with him. This video took a week so I had to do it in bits before I got really good at them. I too thought he was being a prick. But that was how it was covered. This video was pulled down almost immediately without explanation by an unknown party. so I know I was on to something. I did change some things but it’s back up but the momentum was stolen. Once I realized Ferrari hung him out to dry and then didn’t protect him from the media onslaught, I really double clicked and found only 2 sources with the full, unedited audio. Yeah he deserved a penalty. But he couldn’t have known. Then the whole stuff with the FIA, I couldn’t handle it haha. This video still to this day messes with me. It’s so overt. They never even corrected his penalty. Likely bc there is no way to “correct it” and get what they were clearly after. But it’s not all bed. It lead to one of the videos I’m most proud of - the downfall of Ferrari video. Thank you for your feedback! It really has helped me continue to improve this content with each video I go

An investigative documantry. Pure art is what you did with this video. Wow. 40 mins of unbaised and straight forward thinking and making it easy to comprehend. You did your due diligence to the ten-degree. Incredible!

man I totally LOVE your channel! My favorite F1 related channel, that's for sure! Keep up the good work!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Got a big one coming soon! Been working on it a whileeeeee now

@MrAsetgraffiti

4 жыл бұрын

CrankyYankeeF1 very glad to hear!!

Aside from “messing up the two-stop strategy”, Ferrari ultimately stayed out because of two reasons. Firstly, they were trying to wait for a VSC/SC. That would’ve brought them back in the window for a two-stop and minimized the loss of time. They were already far enough ahead that under SC conditions, Leclerc would’ve come out still in the points and battled his way to the front through the alternate strategy. The SC should’ve been called out ultimately because of the copious amounts of carbon all over the track, but I believe Masi didn’t want to help Ferrari anymore. Secondly, they didn’t want to box because somehow, Leclerc on technically his third lap, was setting PB’s. In fact, through the first and second sectors, he was faster than Bottas who was leading at that point, which begs the question of why Ferrari is more effective without their front wing end-plates? That’s kind of sad lol. Nevertheless, the overt action of staying out was both on Ferrari and Leclerc equally. Both were hoping for a SC which would’ve almost entirely erased having to pit for a front wing and tires, coupled with the fact that somehow that car was quicker without the end-plate. Great job on the video as always though. I only recently stumbled into your content and it’s pretty remarkable. If I were to start a channel, this would be a great model to run off of. Keep up the great work!

Good stuff, I'll keep watching.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

happy to hear! we may not always agree but I do my best to tell as objective a story as I possibly can

Cranky Yankee i love that you totally broke this down I watched the race thanks for taking the time to go step by step making great points along the way. Thanks keep up the great work! Love all your content!!!

Man I have seen a few of your videos now and this in-depth coverage is just something else. Definitely got a new subscriber here for sure. Keep up the good work man

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Welcome Colby!

12:49 yes that's slightly reasonable despite the factor you missed out on: drivers have to focus on so much that sometimes reasonable thinking and smart thinking with that stuff is a bit difficult, so I dont think that can be pinned on leclerc entirely

@CYMotorsport

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree. Eventually I mention that haha

Awesome video. Probably one of your best videos as of visual content. What I hear in his voice is the same thing I heard in Brazil last year during qualifying. I also think if he realized how bad it was he would of boxed. Also we have a good angle on the video unlike the driver. And all these teams play games over the radio. You going to Austin?

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Mugen Mafia thanks my man. This stuff is what I really wanna do. But can’t justify it yet. It takes FOREVER to line up the story and make them more than just pics in the places I’m not allowed to use video but you guys are awesome and the growth is happening! Thanks for taking the time to check it out and provide feedback as always. Not sure yet - I wanted to but I’m just now launching free live timing for the sessions officially in Mexico. The last beta round was NUTS in Japan so I may need to stay here and make sure it doesn’t break from traffic haha. I can’t even tell if people like on site footage. Nico’s videos don’t really do it for me even with the behind the scene stuff but that could just be me. Are you headed there?

@mugenmafia8158

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport I might be. I'll find out more tomorrow. But the video was really good. And I'm sure it was a long process. I'll lyk tomorrow. Something crazy happened and it was about our Miami conversations! If there is a way to have a private conversation on here I'll tell you more. I just don't want everyone to know if you know what I mean.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

@@mugenmafia8158 haha all good man - you can shoot me an email. I am pushing traffic to the new website starting tomorrow so it's lighting up already. CrankyYankeeF1@gmail.com . and if you do go to Austin, let me know. I try to by pass "ef one" (they're tagging my channel's meta data so when I personally type their name it flags ... hence why that kubica onboard video is now down out of no where. said their name specifically in the video haha brutal) and get footage on the ground to use and not worry about copyright.

Really good video. Massive props. Couldnt have been more informative.

Great video. Thanks for posting!

"The driver doesn't dictate their pace to garage" ~ Unless you're Alonso

I remember one of my first toys as a kid was a Ferrari, loved playing with it heaps. Been a Ferrari fan since then and seeing all of this just hurts. But it does help to know exactly why it's happening. Thank you Cranky Yankee!!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

I don't relish in sharing - only when Mattia underplays it. but I do defend them in the latest PU scandal

I'm new to F1. Being Rally fan for years and knowing a decent amount about F1. I've decided to see more deeply in how F1 teams managed and compete against each other. These videos are incredible. I like your voice as a narrator. And as have been said before, VERY informative. Thank you, my friend!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Thank YOU! Much more to come

Didnt think there were any good American F1 youtube channels until i stumbled across yours. You got my sub brother. Keep up the great work and Eminemesque story telling skills

WOW! do more of these, please. Also, you should work for the FIA.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

The FIA doesn’t like me. Lol. I tweeted them last week asking them to clarify the ruling for Leclerc they still have in their official documents as wrong. And my upcoming video on Ferrari’s power unit problem won’t make them smile

@okgo8315

4 жыл бұрын

FIA are as crooked as ferrari.

Are the track graphics from project cars 2?

Dude how do you not have more subscribers?? Your video's are fantasic cant wait for the 2020 F1 season. Keep it up man great job

@kartracer127

4 жыл бұрын

Bc its Not neutral enough.

Great great job. More power to you. Please keep you the awesome work. Loved your detailing :)

When DRIVERS say the car is ok means he has enough speed to keep to the strategy

@harrypoon3410

4 жыл бұрын

And?

@stpbasss3773

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter I your car is still on pace if you're having parts flying off the car endangering the other drivers and fans lives. All the teams including Ferrari saw all the shit flying off the car and can see the damage that Leclerc can't really see.

@opyner

4 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why the track marshals, the corner workers, the virtual flag in the cockpit, whatever, show him the meatball? the driver can't see his own car from inside it. if I'm an FIA track marshal and I see a car coming towards me with sparks flying off of it, that's a fairly easy choice. did I miss something here?

@alaeriia01

4 жыл бұрын

@@stpbasss3773 that's literally what the meatball is for.

@khairulkamal4643

4 жыл бұрын

@@stpbasss3773 Race director can give order to Marshall for meatball, or black-orange flag if you don't know what meatball in racing is, and also display it on driver's steering wheel.

imagine that .... Italians with a "whatever it takes" attitude in sport

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

haha true

@alessiocirino7616

4 жыл бұрын

Well that's just blatantly racist isn't it?

@peorakef

4 жыл бұрын

@@alessiocirino7616 give me a break snowflake

@rickjames1797

4 жыл бұрын

@@alessiocirino7616 racism involves race not countries

@michael_v2624

4 жыл бұрын

Fascinating, blatantly racist implies that it is obvious that it’s racist. It more subverts a stereotype. Which in essence kinda promotes the general meaning and definition of racism. So in that sense it’s not wrong, however it’s not entirely right because blatantly is subjective, which is why the other kinda insulting term snowflake comes out. The point racism vs countryism aka (nationalism and ethnic discrimination) is also true. Whether it’s used in the right context I’m not sure. However as much as I don’t like to interfere in muddied waters everyone is probably wrong, including me for various reasons of bias and ideology. However I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of distinction and ideas here. However whether such types of quotes should be enjoyed, I’m not to sure. Much to complicated for me to justify one way or another.

This is very professionally well done. Good job!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

You’re one of the most underrated KZreadrs till now! The amount of work you put in is unbelievable and I thank you for your effort last! :D great work!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy the videos Vishaal! We won’t always agree I’m sure but I want to present you thorough information :)

@andrewpickering9230

3 жыл бұрын

Its down to the FIA which i thought Ferrari international assistance had gone under liberty but Ferrari will get away with anything, Hamilton was told to him because of a loose headrest in Bari

I feel horrible for Leclerc, while I definitely think he was partly at fault, I can completely understand why he did what he did. I come from a background of NASCAR, and recently there has been controversy about younger drivers at the tracks Daytona and Talladega. These two tracks encourage a type of racing called pack racing (basically good chunks of the field being extremely close together going 2-4 wide) so it is a very high-risk/high-reward type of racing. A good chunk of the time you'll see younger driver making the crazy and bold moves that sometimes end up causing a big crash. And I feel like a similar thing happened to Leclerc. He was trying to be the hero, by taking a large risk (driving a damaged car) he was hoping to get an award. BUT just like how a spotter can tell a young NASCAR driver they are clear when they are infact aren't, the Ferrari team could've told them the extent of the damage, yet they didn't.

@kartracer127

4 жыл бұрын

You cant compare a nascar to a formula car. Thats to Start. The Second Thing, he touched a other car. If he touches a other car in nascar he would get punched from his teammanager dir saying i didnt have damage.

@Emci31

4 жыл бұрын

Sam you cannot compare F1 to NASCAR bro there's too much differences between.

@ccramit

3 жыл бұрын

He's not comparing F1 to Nascar, he's comparing the attitudes of the drivers and how teams notify them on the radio. Did you guys even comprehend the post?

@lostmyhead8220

3 жыл бұрын

The first two replies to the comment are absolutely braindead in content. Holy shit, I have never seen such illiteracy and incompetence. Did those fucks even try to read the parent comment? Christ.

Bottas became “bowtas” 😂

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

🤙🏽

@alaeriia01

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, calling him "boat-ass" is rude when the real boat-ass is human Beyblade Vettel over there.

Your analyses are always spot on and this one was tops. I appreciate the amount of work you do.

Fantastic video, glad to have found your channel.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to have you!

Can’t recall how or if Mercedes reacted when Lewis was hit by debris. I guess Toto talked to Massi about it over coffee later on.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

They kept it out of public eye. This was all buried in the media. My video was pulled offline for the first 3 months without explanation . And there’s people on this video saying it’s not a big deal. I don’t know where people went to school but if carbon fiber enters a cockpit pit and hits a man at 200mph it’s not going to go well

@minigungaming5915

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport This piece of carbon fiber certainly would have killed Hamilton, it's heavier, larger, and sharper than the spring that nearly killed Massa. This video brought things to light that I never knew at the time about Ferrari's reckless decisions.

Analyzed like this it looks like Ferrari were hoping that parts falling of LeClerc's Ferrari would damage Hamilton's Mercedes, making a victory for Vettel more probable.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

TJ Roelsma one could argue that is the position favoring Vettel. To me, it’s equally as bad if it was to favor Leclerc and protect his strategy but regardless they cared 0% the risk and damage they did. I just think I’m missing something why it was swept under the rug Ferrari probably paid that fine that same day out of pocket cash

@tjroelsma

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport It couldn't be to favor LeClerc because half his front wing was gone so the car would behave terrible from that moment on and destroy the tyres. And again there might be the hope that when LeClerc's mirror finally let go, it would hit Hamilton's car again, causing even more damage. And as the teams can hear other teams board radio communication, they knew Hamilton was backing off, losing more and more ground to Vettel as long as LeClerc stayed in front of him. It's been swept under the rug because Ferrari always threatens the FIA/F1 they will quit F1 if they feel they are being treated "unjustly" even if it's obvious the FIA decision was fully justified. Ferrari simply rolled it's muscles to show the FIA who's boss and who's not. The puny fine proved Ferrari's point.

@tobznoobs

4 жыл бұрын

that is reckless, senna is rolling in his grave. as a ferrai fan of 20years its pathetic

@tjroelsma

4 жыл бұрын

@@tobznoobs It's very reckless and it shows how desperate Ferrari is after season after season of disappointing results. First the scandal with the possibly illegal fuel flowmeter tampering and now this. Ferrari are só craving to win again, it now looks like nothing is beneath them.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

@@tjroelsma I am so eager to get more information on the current oil debacle. IMO it might end up being the biggest flag of all. But as of now no can get close enough to the story

This channel has the best F1 content.

Always love you videos. Was glued to the video from start to finish.

Ferrari's contempt for their competitors is all I see.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

it's hard to unsee

Desperation has set in. Thanks to RedBull and Mercedes. I race cars for a living made with Carbon Fiber that go 339 mph. We noticed how are livery wraps contain carbon shrapnel. We use Helicopter Tape on the under side of some areas to contain the shrapnel. A elastic plastic membrane helps a lot

Crazy how this video blew up. Love binging your older stuff man!

@CYMotorsport

3 жыл бұрын

in a good way i want ppl to see it despite it being so bad compared to what I would make today haha It's still an important story haha

love it when you're playing that mystic music when you're revealing jaw dropping material well done!

16:56 I dont see a contradiction there. I remember once (I think its was ferrari lol with massa) where the front wing was visibly damaged, no sparks, and the driver was suddenly lapping faster. The engineer even "joked": "now we do like this always". Leclers knows he hit verstappen, he may or may not see the sparks, he knows the mirror is loose, and he may or may not feel any amount of damage. What is clear is that he isnt actually suspiciously slower than vettel upfront, both the team and leclerc know this. Leclerc may not care about the damage or the risk to others, he certainly cares about his own pace, if he thinks the damage inflicts his driving and or pace, he certainly would want to pit. Here id still give him the benefit of the doubt, if he is not losing a lot of time, which he clearly isnt at that point of the race, theres no reason for him to pit i.e. wanting to pit

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Im a weirdo and remember every detail from videos on the channel haha that’s Malaysia 2013 Alonso Ferrari. Bc I remember covering it furious haha shocker. But if you recall he wrecked bc of it. I’m laughing now but it’s dangerous. I wouldn’t google it, but ratzenberger was killed a session before senna doing this EXACT same thing. So I’m consistent atleast. Regardless, As the video goes on I do defend him there. You’re still reaching but I went there too. In the least these guys are hardcore racers. I don’t expect them to be fully responsible here for better or worse. Now I say reach bc he’s holding his mirror. He can do the math. But even still, that’s a sporting code violation regardless even my kid brother knows that. If you are taking 130 flat out holding your mirror and don’t pit, that’s pretty reckless. What he going to drive the whole race like that? And pray it didn’t fly off? Either way, his penalty would have fit this. THEN you see the penalty and it’s openly wrong and it’s still to this day the only one I’ve ever seen Them make a mistake and not correct. They quite a 30 second time add which removes all points. Similar games in Abu Dhabi - technical directive violation so no grid penalty bc it’s “declared” fuel but if he investigate before the race it’s a sporting violation bc it’s “established “ fuel overage. Not saying this adds up to the gap, but tell me Brazil would have happened if Seb was 10 points closer going into USGP. I don’t see him riding those kerbs. And I don’t see them touching . Maybe they do but in aggregate this doesn’t look good.

@peorakef

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport again, im not arguing its not dangerous or anything. the bottom line is that i think it is impossible to hand this decision to the driver. its like asking a kid if he wants to ride the bicycle with a helmet or not. if the decision should not be upon the FIA (who in theory are neutral) it must be upon the pit wall to decide, with clear penalties in place. the mirror thing, i dont think he realised it has smth to do with the front wing. if he did, what could reaching out there fix? he probably thought in a heartbeat that he could "move it in place" or smth. in any case, leclerc himself wouldnt pit because of a mirror. it must be the team to call him in, the least bc of a security issue. as a driver i know the team sees it. if they dont call me in, i stay out. simple. im concentrated on other things in the car rather than working risk calculations out in my head. ive actually given up on believing in rules in f1. they dont mean anything, never have. for me, most obvious was red bull crash in baku. ves moved on the straight at least three times, in clear violation of the rules. yet everybody was like, "thats racing thats what we want to see!" straight up blocking people from overtaking on the straight is racing? well, turns out FIA thought it was. i dont get it to this day. my best guess is that the whole thing is more crude politics than fair sport. which explains everything, to me. and to me, thats a big turnoff.

Leclerc is one of my favourite current drivers but I honestly think a race ban should have been given. I don't know much about the precedent for race bans but ferrari ignored the FIA's requests and seriously endangered multiple other drivers🤷‍♀️

love your videos fella,,subscribed, thanks.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Welcome Kenny!

Your analysis is remarkable! I don't know how you do it bro. Taking my F1 game to another level! 🙏

@CYMotorsport

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t like this video in terms of quality- it’s an early one but I’m happy the work that went into it!i appreciate your support and patience

Thank you Yankee!how does mercedes know about the damage long before but Ferrari only informing lecrerc on radio much later??One of the so many reasons why I absolutely have no respect for Ferrari as a team since 1997 for all the shit they've been catching on since I've started watching F1! oh BTW Awesome content dude!!the best F1 analysis yet!!!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

this one i went a lot deeper than I anticipated . mostly because apparently no one cares they penalized him incorrectly and then never bothered to actually clarify haha. so many things wrong here but I am glad you enjoyed it and thank you for the feedback! hopefully i can live up to that haha

OUTSTANDING detective work. Ferrari has far too much ‘power’ and they seemingly love to yield it.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

You should check out my video on their power unit you’d be into it haha

Binging your content and holy crap, its sooo good. Keep it up man!

Honestly, this probably your best video on your channel. You've truly surpassed yourself on this one. It was really intriguing from start to finish and it shows you've done a ton of research. Doesn't matter if someone manages to prove all this wrong, you sir, deserve a klondike bar!

I like this video thanks, I know I was crticial before sorry, u have a lot of good points here, I didn't know about the fire in landos car, my god, U made a lot of good points, I was so mad at Charles that day, but I've watched this couple of times feel differently now, Charles is young, his only second year in formula 1,and his driving in top team, I think through no fault of his own just his years and lack of time in formula 1 he is a bit naive at times, Towards Lewis with his experience u say Lewis wouldn't take the risk of the slipstream, Good video, good points, Can I just say, I think myself that we are being played by sky sports f1, we only heard him saying why on the radio on the tv, we didn't hear the rest of what he say after why, like u have here, changes things I think, I like your mattia points, I'm not a mattia fan, myself, I think myself Ferrari were much better under Maurizio, I think myself that Ferrari make their plans in an office before the race, and they not prepared to change or adapt their plans, but races are won on track on Sunday afternoon u have to be prepared to change to adapt your plans to way race going, I'm often heard Sebastian questioning this Ferrari tactic on the radio sometime, what u think??? It was dangerous, his Hands his fingers, I'm not a technical person, but someone say on comment somewhere I read he was lucky he didn't loose his fingers with the g force, Remember filippe massa got badly injured before with flying debris or a spring or something hit him in the head, Lewis was lucky thank god,

Can you do more pls 👍

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

absolutely. They take an absurd amount of time so I really was just waiting for some more feedback before spending a week on it. I find it enjoyable though. Out of curiosity, is there a situation in F1 history you've been curious to see? I completed Senna/Prost. The US Grand Prix has been voted on. and a couple other but curious if theres another controversy you've been interested in

You always have the best background music running , *Period*

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you feel that way friend. It takes me a few hours on that part alone haha

Excellent video very well put together.

Even Jeff tells me better about the damage and when to come In for repairs than Ferrari's engineers

Nick,although there were moments that I found hard going I think this is a pretty substantial piece of work and outstanding in the way that you have researched it. The only danger is that that we can all overthink these situations and perhaps give people involved more credit for supposed intelligence and clarity of view than they actually have viz. are the Ferrari personnel controlling the race from the pit wall communicating properly with the drivers,each other and team management? I would suggest that they are not and that incompetence and lack of proper communication lead to their bizarre and extremely dangerous behaviour.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

At first, that's the line I took too. but then you see Masi confirm Ferrari lied to them. and you can hear his engineers tell him to stay out after they confirmed three times in one lap to come in conveniently after the piece flies off. then you see Mattia say that was the reason. I think the Ferrari stuff is 100% there. The only thing I was surprised by was the fact that Ferrari updated their driver ZERO times about the damage on his car. that alone is a massive red flag. the point of any of these videos is really just to make you look twice. it's rare i'll try to convince you of something. so it sounds like based on your comment, the content helped you come to your own conclusion. that's all I can ever hope for! thanks for the feedback, much appreciate it, the comment, view , and time watching stuff like this takes. I'll keep mixing the content up keep y'all on your toes :)

@christopherfranklin972

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport I absolutely hear and understand where you are coming from,my opinion is based on a wider overview of the general Ferrari situation and includes how they have managed to negate any real advantage over MB in car performance by flawed management and strategy,I cannot believe that Toto Wolff given the same advantage would not have ground Ferrari into the tarmac,Ferrari look amateurish at the moment,that thrice repeated "STAY OUT" had a whiff of panic. I cannot help but dislike Leclerc,there's no doubt that when conditions are in his favour he can drive very fast but in racing scenarios there's something not quite right about him and he expresses that same smug sense of entitlement that Nico Rosburg had,the "I WANT IT ALL" thing regardless of how it's achieved.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Christopher Franklin I appreciate you being candid there. I kinda sensed that from your original response so it’s refreshing for you to say it like that. We’re saying similar things haha to me it sounds like you’re taking Hanlon’s Law approach. That’s more than valid. And if I was forced to answer, I’d go with that too if I was having a genuine conversation like this. I struggled with this video bc I 100% agree about Leclerc but had to put that aside bc Ferrari gave him nothing and fumbled strategy. He had damage and didn’t ask one single time how bad it was. That’s highly irregular. It has everything to do with this plausible deniability thing and what they “ put in writing” over radio. Mercedes doesn’t do That. You’re spot on regarding MB and strategy. Ferrari is faster and frankly, has a stronger driver line up. I’ve been more critical of ferrari drivers than any other team on this channel and I’m still saying that. I think that quality about Leclerc will drive him to win multiple world titles but he won’t if his driving under duress doesn’t change. Quote me on that. Racecraft maturity is NOT there. But what’s why ferrari needed bigger punishment. A driver who will not be candid about car performance bc he wants to win at any costs has to be checked by a garage who is handling strategy properly. Ferrari doubled down and proved they will not only enable Leclerc, but take it further. It’s a disastrous situation waiting to happen. And Toto will our maneuver them consistently if something doesn’t change. I hope max goes to Merc and not ferrari in a couple years. Anyways cheers for leaving your honest thoughts. So much of what you said is insightfully true. You should make videos haha

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Hey you gave some awesome feedback on this - would you like to see shorter episodes? I am transitioning this content to a podcast - over audio it reads better but is this one too long? refer to episode 1 of senna vs prost how that one is half the length. just curious if you had an opinion here. looking forward to sending you some stuff tomorrow for mexico!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

@@ajayreddy377 Thanks Ajay! 25 min is my new max. the next one should be interesting I'm excited to publish!

Your work is extremely good! Keep it like this! You got an extra sub !

Great content, well done and looking forward to see more.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Rob Hendriks excited you get back to this content! Just gotta get through Abu Dhabi content first haha

Good analysis, what I personally think as a very cynical person is that everyone here did their job perfectly, except the FIA. Mercedes tried to force the pit-stop for Leclerc with the team radios to Lewis (of course I think the primary reason was concern for the driver, but you can't totally discount that aspect either. Then Ferrari did their job perfectly, they are a team top and as a team they have to maximize their gains. FIA is there exactly because of that, they should be the dogs that prevent situations from becoming dangerous, but in this instance they were sloppy and incompetent, you can't trust the word of someone who has all to gain from not mantaining his promise, like in any kind of competition (sports, business, war,...). That said I don't blame Ferrari, probably every other team would have done the same (I could expand as to why but I don't want to write too much 😅) but it is Leclerc's behaviour that I fully support: he is a driver, and his job as a driver is to drive the far as fast as possibile no matter the condition of the car. The only point on which I strongly disagree with you is that the fact that after the pieces of the front wing fell off Ferrari didn't want to pit anymore doesn't seem strange nor outrageous to me at all... after all the danger was over, if you look at the footage you can see that the front wing pillars were still solid as the rest of the wing was, so the riso of other pieces falling off was really low (btw from an engineering point of cose ehen things fail under stress due to defects/crack, they usually do it only once, meaning that after the "big piece" fell of you wouldn't expect other pieces to still come off).

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah you're right that was really cynical hahah I thought I was the cynical until this video. Your positions though even where we disagree make perfect sense. I think my issues come with the fact that it just shouldn't happen. Even though I can make sense of it. Technically, you're correct. If I ONLY care about my drivers and teams, it would be perfect it all fell off. But I take issue with the fact that they are supposed to be the last line of defense to stop this behavior. If everyone is this opportunistic, it would be anarchy haha. It's not good when even the team boss can't be reasonable (referring to his comments after the race where he was still upset they forced him in). I get what you're saying - You'd make a great villain - or Ferrari team boss haha great points though thank you for taking the time to spell it out

@raffaeledivora9517

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport I also think things like that shouldn't happen, in these situations FIA should be harsher and much firmer in their action just because of that, but sadly it's not what they are doing at all... quite the opposite! I have to confessa that even if I'm much more cynical because I think risk is an ineliminable part of motorsport, thinking of ruthless teams ready to sacrifici everything in name of competitiveness made me think about all the great drivers that died in those awesome and deadly Lotuses, their mechanical and structural parts always so lightweight that they failed every two races, or to Williams sloppily welding Senna's steering column, or Lancia's paper-thin fuel tank in the spectacular but dangerous Group B Rally World Championship, that cost the life of Toivonen and his copilot

@raffaeledivora9517

4 жыл бұрын

Today we are very very far from such dangers, of course, but there are always others, that often are not even visible, like when McLaren was adding berillium (one of the deadliest and cancerous elements known to man) to their fuel to improve combustion

It's like 1950s-60s Enzo Ferrari possessed someone in the garage for a while.

Very informative great video mate.

Love your videos man keep up the great work. -Blake from Oregon

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

You got it! I love Oregon! I ran track collegiately so getting smashed at Hayward wasn’t fun but it was always a pleasure traveling there

after Seeing these kind of things i'm glad seb is leaving ferrari

I can't understand how Ferrari has so many fans backing them up no matter what. I get it they have history and all but it seems more like they are ready to use that than respect it. they seem ready to throw it all the time. doing weird stuff. putting themselves in weird situations. I'm only an f1 fan for almost 2 years now so I only see this ferrari. Maybe without binnoto it was fine, I don't know that much. But this Ferrari I see these years, certainly deserves less, they deserve this 2020 year they have. They had it coming for sure. Let's hope they learn. I'm not hating Ferrari, not to confuse anyone, I don't want them to fail. I want them to do better but also to deserve that.

Good video, man. It's good to see someone really go into the detail of an F1 race. To be a bit critical, just so you improve, not so I score an ego point, I wouldn't put so much text on the screen because it's hard to read whilst listening to your narrative. Just put up text that is somehow key to your argument. Not that I could do better, I definitely couldn't. You have a great voice for it too!

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

I love the feedback man don't worry about it. My job really is to understand tone and where the audience is coming from bc ultimately i'm making this for you not for my ego. so in that sense, you are failing me by not telling me. but that's def something people have brought up before and i think I have adapted to it. I really like to talk with you and understand how to improve so keep it coming

Did not think I would spend 40 mins listening to this. Can see the effort put into it. Would love to see a video this comprehensive of an account of what actually goes on behind the scenes when teammates collide. Or a breakdown of radio communications. What they’re allowed to say, a breakdown of common phrases you’ll hear over the radio and might have no idea what they’re talking about, or the best incidents of “Fernando is faster than you”.

I'll make a comment regarding that first lap which you wouldn't have heard. I only get to see the highlights on the UK's Channel 4, the commentators are the incredibly experienced Ben Edwards (and v respected he is, too), and the driver is David Coulthard. Whatever you think of him as a driver, he is too a very experienced driver. BOTH men, before halfway through that lap, were saying that he needed to go in and change that nose because the wing could cause an accident and hurt someone. They predicted _exactly_ what would happen. After the recent death of Leclerc's friend, I cannot imagine for one second that he would want to be on the road chucking crap at the people behind him. I'll also be generous and say 'incompetence' on the part of both Leclerc and Ferrari, but also the FIA. But even though I say this, there is a part of me which feels it hard to forgive the team for this. I've seen too many accidents caused by stray bits of bodywork, and some serious injuries. I've been a fan for a very long time. Ferrari are too well known for not even bending the rules but out and out breaking them with no consequence. A very well constructed and presented piece. Thank you. Edit: Subbed! Btw, Ferrari cheated again in Abu - Ferrari fans - Dhabi. No minor technical thing, a serious, usually disqualifying infringement. On Leclerc's car. Got a €50,000 fine. I'm not saying he benefited from it during the race, in fact I'm sure by the time the car was on the grid, it was perfect, but Ferrari were at it again. There's a reason the FIA was known as Ferrari International Assistance after all. Check out the 'spygate' affair (I'm sure you know Aiden Millward's channel; it's all been updated recently on there). McLaren - though proven to have not used a single part belonging to Ferrari on their car - got a $100,000,000 fine. Renault (Benneton? That team anyway) and Toyota, also were found to have information from two other Ferrari employees, both Italian, both cleared - yet were clearly guilty - by Italian courts, and how much were those teams fined? Not a cent, US or EUR. At the same time the McLaren thing was going on... I rest my case.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

I wish I visited this earlier haha well said all the way through. I haven't been too active here bc I have been fighting for this video legally since the day it was mysteriously brought down. and it's finally back! I have been digging into the fuel thing off and on for a month now. the issue is the TD and sporting regulations are so insanely muddy, it's not even clear how he should be penalized. while I have zero doubt the clearly didn't follow protocol, there doesn't seem to be anything on the books correcting their action. but I'm eager, if not desperate, for a lead here. Even motorsport cite 30.5 of the sporting regs (www.fia.com/file/78014/download/26183) which is the best anyone can do. to me, this seems weak. THERE'S A REASON FOR THE DISCREPANCY. but going nuts finding precedent here. now you see why my brain unravels through some of these stories down the weeds a month and 6 in-depth videos later you've commented on haha

@y_fam_goeglyd

4 жыл бұрын

@@CYMotorsport Ferrari are enough to drive _anyone_ mad, mate! I've changed my mind regarding incompetence, I'm convinced it was deliberate on the part of Ferrari. Sorry my comments are rather long, but I'm as passionate about F1 (motorsports in general) as you are, and for a lot longer! I tend to get carried away. I am seriously impressed by your work, btw. Not just saying that. I don't sub to everyone I even like, I have far too many channels I follow for different reasons. When I sub, it's because I'm bloody impressed. Keep up the good work, whether I comment or not, I'm thoroughly enjoying your videos and I'm really looking forward to going through this season with you. :-D

You haven’t factored in the point that we can’t hear the inter team conversations and they options they are weighing up with the strategists and the circuit and at the factory, it would’ve been a late call to the pits but it’s what many people decided in the short space of time, Charles ignored it cos he felt the car still had grip that’s the ‘pace’ binotto is referring to in the interview. Good step by step analysis but I think you even overanalysed and started to guess yourself.

@CYMotorsport

4 жыл бұрын

Well certainly I can’t factor in what u don’t know. But you’re correct that’s all I have. The timing was most important to me. But from Leclerc’s perspective it’s all encompassing. To your point though I defended Leclerc in this video. He could have done thjngs a bit differently but all in all, the Penalty he got was sufficient. Ferrari’s wasn’t in the slightest but just my opinion. Thanks for viewing with an open mind!

Creative way to tell someone to subscribe, already was but that was smooth lol 👍 great content

Thanks for your effort on this . I don’t follow f1 but found this very interesting . Thanks