I had been on the non dual treadmill for a couple years and it was this woman's book "Nothing To Grasp" that finally ended my search. Whew! As much as I respect teachers like Rupert Spira and others their teaching always left me with the desire to keep going because they posit that human experience can reveal to us the "reality" of things and I wanted to really "get that." But now I know there is nothing to get and that human experience is not some great revealer of truths. The only thing you can get are various people's models of "consciousness" and "reality" but they are just models. My understanding now is that "I" am simply one of countless expressions of this mysterious universe and I don't have to do anything to be that. The idea of myself as an individual "doer" is fine but that is also just another expression that this reality is doing. A flower is another expression, and a bike chain and anything else you can imagine. Your imagination itself is another expression of the universe just doing its thing. So, uh, yeah, just to be here now is enough. And that includes all the evil and all the goodness. To "my mind" it's just that simple. Thanks for reading to the end!

A truly amazing teacher. I discovered her through the Waking Up app in conversation with Sam Harris.

@energiecoach61

2 ай бұрын

Me too! Thank ✨ for SH

One of the best Teacher on Non Duality! simply 😮 wow

Her sweetness made this entire talk a beautiful listen. Thank you

First time I have heard Joan. Love her down-to-earth simplicity. Thank you.

I love this woman and I love her teacher, Toni Packer. And Toni Packer's teacher was Krishnamurti and Zen. But Joan Tillofson brings the message forward. Worth a listen.

Thank you Joan! 😊 Your talks are so clear, especially after realising that it's always here and now, and how to continue living with that realization in this unawakened world! Thank you! 😊

Beautiful Joan, thankyou. A joy 🙏🏽🙏🏽

Thanks for uncluttered clarity. MM

Loved it!! So clear! So wonderful! Thank you, Joan

Joan as ever brings joy, clarity and wisdom. The Map is not the territory ~ Marshall McCluan I live this🦋

Beautiful woman.

Love you Joan. Great presentation.❤

I like concept of weather. I pay a lot of attention to weather so it resonated with me. Also I just returned from traveling by myself- I had met a group we were in the wilderness for a week working and when I emerged from the wilderness and began driving towards an airport far away I almost had like a breakdown of emotion and started crying and I couldn't put my finger on what it was. Over the last four or five days this feeling has reemerged several times. And I've been in tears. There are multiple reasons I think behind it now that I have a little bit of perspective. But it comes down to "weather" And some specific feelings / sentimental thoughts and fear and abandonment may be in there. But anyways. Weather. I know it will pass I seem to have a bit of a pattern with this surrounding travel I get uprooted and while I like adventures I'm not sure I like all of them equally and perhaps in the future the uprooting will not be worth it and I will stay in my happy contentment, thus avoiding the bad weather upon returning… Or maybe the bad weather won't always come I am taking another trip in another month this time I will be traveling with someone a new friend and I will have to see how I feel after that trip.

The whole sorrow of humanity is distilled into the question that the gentleman asks at 21:38 !! Basically saying - 'Not this. I don't want this. I want that'

@RickWilleyOMC

4 жыл бұрын

And THAT desolves quite DRASTICALLY in this process! At least for Me. Not that it never happens! But I USED to have this "poor me" cloud Following me around all the time until I realized that was a thought pattern and a sort of identity. Then...as she described....I just fell into the abyss! Its taken me almost 10 years to understand what happened and to stop grasping or trying to get that experience back! There's still some grasping activity here and it sometimes takes a while to register and drop it.

I just read a quote from Joan a while ago on my fb timeline, and it was the first time I've heard of her. But the quote really spoke to me, and now I am here listening to her wise words. So glad I discovered her!

There is a book nothing to grasp by Joan Tollifson.. She has a great understanding. .. I would definitely recommend to anyone interested in seeing the reality as it is..

Thank you for sharing such enriching content.

Wonderful!

I like her informal approach to practices. A teacher I know tells students not to do yoga to get somewhere but for the love of it.

wow...awesome

Nice! Just in the moment! Thatś all..No regrets no shortcommings.. Just Be! Itś a relieve if one just can BE. In the moment.

Real enlightenment.

It made me laugh when you said "It's just weather". I've been describing myself to others as like the weather for quite some time when asked, "How are you?" Never static, though at times seemingly so. No snapshot is the movie. Rock On Joan!

Awesome

Nothing has to change in order to Be.

An eternal here now that is conscious

"Just this now" and "everchanging" seems contradictory. I know they are pointers, however to me it's more like when there's everything there's nothing. It's like everyobe having 1 million dollars. Then noone is either rich or poor. They are both rich and poor, but also none.

unconvinced

@king5ley

7 жыл бұрын

savedfaves about what?

@Daniel-pr4uk

5 жыл бұрын

nuff sed, that's not really what she said. What she points to is very VERY different from any frame of reference that the mind is used to. One has to suspend all knowledge and striving (and looking for solutions/improvement) as well as suspend all conclusions and beliefs and become very VERY simple in order to really see what is being pointed to (most of us are not able to be so simple. We are far too clever and complex). And by the way, she answers your question from 26:56 till 29:51 "You" will NOT gain anything from this message!! If you want to gain something than this is really not for you! And yes, what is being conveyed is on the very very far edge of what most people would consider reasonable. The VAST MAJORITY of humanity have zero interest in this and will never understand what is being pointed to. In other words, it won't solve any of the problems of the personal self. For this, you better go to a specialist. If you are looking for relief from addictions I would highly recommend 'the kiloby center for recovery', a very special place that helps with addictions and goes to the VERY ROOT of the issue, it is very very thorough and very unique. Wishing you lots of luck! She doesn't give you any prescription of what to do or not to do, because of seeing that you are not really in control of what happens (even though you might think you are). It's not up to you! And it becomes even more strange (to the mind) than that - you don't even exist in the way you think you exist. What you call addictions or cravings or trying to heal are all movements happening in the "eventing" (or whatever label you want to give to...THIS that is happening right now, eternally), movements that are happening WITHOUT ANY DOER. There is the movement of the ocean, the one and only ocean (this is a metaphor), which creates waves (one such wave is you), but the wave is ultimately not really different or separate from the ocean (even though it imagines it is). In other words, the ocean is moving, is happening, and the waves are part of the ocean, part of that movement, NOT separate independent entities that can create things of their own power. If you are looking for solutions to health or medical issue, I would highly recommend not to look for them in nonduality, it won't offer you anything. The message of nonduality only offers you a different perspective on what you think you are and what is the world, and if, by some remote chance, you actually clearly see what is being pointed to, then you will not exist anymore (in the way you think that you exist)! In other words, it won't solve any of the problems of the personal self. For this, you better go to a specialist. I highly recommend 'the kiloby center for recovery' as i mentioned above. Good luck! PS. and if for some reason you still have some interest in nonduality (probably out of the erroneous assumption that it will give you something) then here are other people that convey the same message of Joan, but in different words (so perhaps their words would click better for certain people): Darryl Bailey, Wayne Liquorman, Robert Salzman, Paul Hedderman. And one very clear video on this that I would recommend is called 'that which doesn't come and go' by scott kiloby. you can search for it, or simply look at the playlist by that name (that which doesn't come and go) on my channel.

@Daniel-pr4uk

5 жыл бұрын

nuff sed, well, if you're here to see what absolute rubbish this is, then it seems like you confirmed your suspicions... And yes, I agree, there is nothing here for the 99.999% of humanity. This is really on the far edge of what most people would consider reasonable and common sense. The very few who seem to have genuine passion for this inquiry, seem to have arrived/fallen into it, as a natural movement, without wanting to or choosing to, without having a say or choice in the matter. Just like some people are compelled to study the languages of the ancient civilizations of south America or to windsurf or to bake cakes, in the same way, some people are compelled towards this inquiry. It is really astonishing that it became somewhat popular in the first place. My suspicion is that it became popular because of a misunderstanding, because of an erroneous belief that the nondual description of reality is actually a prescription that will lead to some betterment, that it will provide something for me. (But who really knows what is the real reason that this becomes known now, if there is a reason at all...) By the way, two former scientists who now seem to be talking about all this rubbish are James Eaton and Jeff Foster, if you wish to check them out. Not really sure why I am mentioning this, as I really have zero interest in advocating anything, but something still compels me to do so. Roger Castillo, Rupert Spira, Scott Kiloby, Jim Newman and Toni Packer also approach "THIS" in a very methodical and orderly way that might appeal more to a mind that resonates more with this method. All the best

@RickWilleyOMC

4 жыл бұрын

So your unconvincing statement is fine and I won't argue against or try to change your mind. But the question and discussion here is...What knows the thoughts and feelings of being unconvinced? It sounds like rubbish to the thinking mind doesn't it?? But THAT'S THE POINT! SEEING that!! And by looking, something relaxes until you try to grab it! All she's saying is NOTICE THAT! And as a practice that helps you gain clarity rather than thinking things are the way You THINK they are. You're mind (our minds) just do loops! Which why we hate jumping through hoops to get anything done! But THAT'S just another loop! Just notice is all shes saying 😉

@coenterhaar9183

3 жыл бұрын

Who or what is unconvinced? Where is this "I" or me that's unconvinced? Who or what is looking at your phone right now? Can you find an "I" or a me that's looking or listening?

They actually said, Be here now, not Being here now. Just sayin.

11:45

If someone is teaching. Its not enlightenment.

@coenterhaar9183

3 жыл бұрын

She's pointing to what is obvious.... What she says resonates within..... It's helpful and life changing and enlightening for many.....😊

Thats not enlightenment

@robertjsmith

6 жыл бұрын

white knight what gets enlightened

@XOXO-mb2vh

6 жыл бұрын

White Knight Its a big nothing burger🍽

@coenterhaar9183

3 жыл бұрын

No worries.....For many it is life changing and enlightening! Who or what is looking at your phone right now? Can you find an "I" or a me that's looking?