Is it probable that, like most myths, it is allegorical? The Fomorians represent the ugly, harsh, cruel forces of nature: wild beasts, blight, cold winters, plagues, etc. The Tuatha De represent the skills needed to overcome the dark forces (hence, they were all craftsmen of some type). The stories teach lessons about how those crafts are used to deflect and/or defeat the darker powers of nature inherent in the island (but viewed as cruel and otherly). That is why the Tuatha De became the aes sidhe, and the Irish invoke their memory to combat their contemporary woes. Interestingly, as the Sidhe became increasingly identified with natural forces, they began developing darker characteristics as well.

@garygnunewzoorevue5748

4 жыл бұрын

Personification is what you mean

@scotthogan8483

4 жыл бұрын

@@garygnunewzoorevue5748 Yes, personification is one way of saying it. Or anthropomorphism. But allegory encompasses the reasoning, or rationality, behind how the characters are portrayed, and their relationships with each other.

@quadeevans6484

3 жыл бұрын

I always thought it was them projecting those things they considered uncontrollable onto the people that may have inhabited ireland before the indo europeans got there

@MySqueezingArm

3 жыл бұрын

My understanding of this channel is to relay the stories and mythos from various cultures. The stories alone can inspire people's creativity. Analysis of the stories that shine a light behind the mythology is a great next step. With that said, it is important to foster someone's interest before discussing the deeper context.

@evelyna.5394

3 жыл бұрын

I am, unfortunately, not particularly educated in this matter, but I find this interpretation quite compelling!

It feels like all of these massive, deformed, multi-limbed beings of power and destruction - coupled with their small, stronger, more human-shaped counterparts in legend - seem to represent the human outlook of the universe: first, there was chaos, lack of direction, and raw, untapped energy that simply existed; second, everything calmed down, gained form, stability, and though less powerful than before, its potential had a purpose - a reason for being. Fascinating!

@swearimnotarobot3746

Жыл бұрын

Or possibly humans and cavemen. Since we know that both races existed at the same time.

@James-nr2hi

Жыл бұрын

​@@swearimnotarobot3746You mean neanderthals? Because humans were cavemen

Oooh yeah Adrien von Ziegler, excellent choice in music man

"they were all slain...." Nice touch, saying this while 2000AD's Slaine artwork was on screen.

@aarons1811

4 жыл бұрын

I came to the comments to say that. You beat me to it 😁 Bisley's art is amazing isn't it?👍🏽

I like that you used the balor from kingdoms of Amalur: reckoning

@mrbeard7701

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that, I knew it was a boss from that fantastic game, just couldn't fuckin remember what the hell it's name was lol.

@moccus3466

4 жыл бұрын

Probably because the game draws heavily from celtic mythology

@user-ke8ew3or5n

3 жыл бұрын

This game deserves more recognition

@mugenokami2201

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ke8ew3or5n yes it does

Fomorians, Titans and Jötunns who have a war against another powerful race. These myths and legends across Europe seem to have very similar lore. I like it.

I would love to see a video on the Celtic hero Cú Chulainn

@mugenokami2201

3 жыл бұрын

There is a song bout him by miracle of sound

@ASmartNameForMe

3 жыл бұрын

@@mugenokami2201 AND THE NAAAAAME CU CHULAINN! WAS SUNG OUT LOUD THAT NIGHT

This is awesome! I would like to see myths and legends on Polynesian/Southeast Asian cultures too. Or Hawaiian even. Thanks for these videos. They are in-depth and very informative.

@waomawingu1972

6 жыл бұрын

That would be cool!

I love that you used Adrian's music.

Please do more on Irish mythology! I love my heritage and would love to hear more of my ancestral brethren’s lore.

2:38 Can I just mention that the two dudes in the middle lower part of this picture are the two coolest looking dudes ever. There's the one guy with the wild red hair and a bitchin' mustache, and the guy in a helmet that looks like it was modeled after the Avenged Sevenfold logo.

I have had a strong suspicion for some time that the formorians may also have referred to the people the Celts forms already living in ireland when they arrived. They must have met the decedent's of those who built the dolmens and newgrange.

@AClockWorkKelly1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ahch_not_op_of_Judah I know .. i remember seeing a genetic reconstruction of "cheddar man" in England. Dark skinned and blue eyed. They must have been amazing looking people.

@cipherx6334

2 жыл бұрын

The original inhabitants were celts, pale skin and blue or green eyed.. See Barry Cunliffe's new assertions about early civilisation in the UK. People with Welsh, Irish or Scottish heritage directly link back to the early post glacial era. The cheddar man was said to be dark skinned but wasn't, it was a media lie. The apology for getting it wrong went under the radar as these things usually do. Basically the genetic studies were misconstrued, an examination of the skeleton by an anthropologist or forensic scientist would easily determine if cheddar man was sub-Saharan or European, so no genetic test needed.

@cipherx6334

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ahch_not_op_of_Judah You are making no sense. He has much knowledge of this subject and supports a new paradigm of the origins of the Celts being the direct descendants of the first British inhabitants, which is widely accepted in academic circles. Aboriginals are from a totally different part of the world so I don't know what you have been smoking to come up with that foolish notion. Do you mean natives? Aborigines refer to the indigenous peoples of Australasia.

I always took Tuatha and Fomorians as 2 alien races who were trying to settle in Ireland. The way Balor is shown, makes me think of laser-weapon...I believe the whole coming of Tuatha to Ireland was described almost one to one as a huge spaceship landing in a valley. The advancements they had was also pretty cool, bionics, regeneration, weapons of great power...

@Amphitera

Жыл бұрын

I think it's obvious that this is referring to the annunaki, even the name tuatha de danann meaning descended from the god (d)anu, and they were always fighting other giant alien beings, which is reflected in all mythologies around the world.

@gandalfthegray4144

Жыл бұрын

@@Amphitera The Tuatha De Danann were originally called Tuatha De but the Irish Monks started referring the Israelites Tuatha De. So to avoid confusion, the Tuatha De started to be called as the Tuatha De Danann while the Israelites were still called Tuatha De by the Irish Monks.

Where do you get all this great art? Almost all I ever find is third rate anime/comic sketches. This is my new favorite channel- keep up the great work!! Edit: I imagine the Fomorians sort of like Japanese oni, maybe with a touch of Satyr. Of course I've only recently been getting into Irish Mythology :)

@aradraugfea

4 жыл бұрын

I can't speak to everything, but the giant with two different sized eyes, a hunched back and warts is actually from a DnD manual. And the art he goes out on appears to be from Marvel Comics.

I have been bin watching your videos since march, including same videos over and over because they ARE AWESOME!!! And your voice is hypnotic!!!!

And I thought Fomorian was just a nonsense word DE made up for Vay Hek's super weapons in Warframe.

@cleverpython1546

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, there’s a ton of Irish mythology references in warframe

There is a MMORPG that revolves around the war and relations between the Tuatha De Danann and the Fomorians, and specifically the introduction of the Milesians. It's called Mabinogi online. In the game the stories based on Welsh/Celtic tales, names and events are skewed with some minor characters given prominent roles or significant characters become names of places or items instead; vice versa.

Exploring phonetics and phonology it is interesting to explore the root meanings of the names in Irish mythology. Like: Fintan - protector and light yellowish brown. Nemed - sent out on a mission. De Danann - of Impressive excellence. Aos Sidhe - good at secrecy or being hidden. Milesians - small, supple and agile. Fomorians - large ones of the Orion constellation. Partholon - who work together as a unit/whole. (community). Cichol Gricenchos the meaning 'of withered feet' reminds me of Acromegaly. People with this condition often walk with a gait that gives the impression of sore legs or feet.

Love your content, very informative. I like how you cover a variety of cultures and beliefs. Irish mythology is something I’ve honestly never really looked into, but now I’m going to lol

Loving these Irish Mythology videos. I wrote a twelve-paged research paper my senior year in high school about this topic, so it's refreshing to see someone else's knowledge on the topic.

Great Video thank you so much please keep up your amazing work

Could formorians be Neanderthal? Or maybe a society of coastal, sailor cave Men?

@kyleparker613

4 жыл бұрын

I personally think its doubtful since there are multiple "other races" who used to inhabit Ireland, for instance the firbolg people, there could be a hint of the legend that resulted from the myths though, maybe the taking of Ireland multiple times from and by multiple "monstrous" races Is an exaggerated retelling of either wars between clans or even an extinction of the Neanderthals. I dont think its Neanderthals though, everyone has folk stories.

@mercianthane2503

3 жыл бұрын

Tuatha De are the irish gods who come from the Indo-European pantheon. Fomorians are god-like beings to, forces of nature, and that's it.

@VampireNewl

2 жыл бұрын

Could have been the Neolithic Irish?

@jpf7942

2 жыл бұрын

Nope. They would be more associated with Giants from Norse mythology or Titans from Greek mythology

@enjoyyourself7455

2 жыл бұрын

Fomorians are believed to have travelled from mesopotamia. They first traded and travelled with ancient egyptians. However; as Ireland's the only place that produces two harvests a year this created a power struggle as whoever controlled the harvest had leverage. Following this Egypt tasked Carthage with stopping ships from crossing the Mediterranean sea.

Bro. I love you covering celtic/irish mythology. You should do more videos!

Although I don't know much about the Thimorians, I think that they'r a mix of both the Sea & Earth dwelling beaing's. Anyway as always an interesting vid & thanks again for the live feed last night, it was the first time that I'd taken part in a live feed & I hope that you had as much fun as we all did 😊😊😊😊

Great video. Love Irish mythology 💚 And thank you for crediting Adrian Von Ziegler for the fantastic music track. My favorite. ☘

I really love when you use Moonsong in the beginning of your videos. I love that song

I just realized the game kingdoms of amular the reckoning has like all the Celtic mythology monsters and people even if it's just names like the tuatha or the balor

This is so interesting, know I know were the Fomoris in the World or Darkness games, came from. Thanks!

love your videos thanks

I know next to nothing about Irish mythology so this is very informative. Would love to hear more.

Michael Moorcock used these guys as the villains of the Corum Chronicles. Well, a version of them called the Fhoi Myore.

I love this channel!

Please do a video on the top hero's of Irish mythology Cu Chulainn and Fionn Mac Cumhaill.

Ah the Formidable Fomorians. Great video nice way to end the night.

Very very well done!!!

PERFECT AS ALWAYS

I'd love to see a video on Blodeuwedd or Arianrhod !

Would you be so kind as to make a video on Lugh? I was born on Lughnasagh, so he has intrigued me for a long time

If anyone in ireland wants to go well into depth on this subject and irish mythology id suggest doing a cultural heritage course

Nice video

It'll be cool if one day you did some African mythology, like Anasi, or Mami Wata or something. Love your videos, I literally just woke up and started watching

@waomawingu1972

6 жыл бұрын

He did say in the last livestream that Hindu and African myths will not be coming soon, as he's not that familiar with them at the moment. Yet, in the rather distant future, they should be on the channel. :)

@spookyshadowhawk6776

6 жыл бұрын

Warrior Empress Vitani I once ran into a African Legend of a Vampire that flew backwards at people, it's teeth coming out of it it's rear end to bite them. Sounds like a very bad banana beer binge! Japanese have one about ghosts, that's somewhat similar except they come through walls. African and Japanese mythology can get very bizarre Compared to European mythology. Makes it interesting!

@carlospaige4589

4 жыл бұрын

European mythology is African mythology, just rehashed for Europeans, Plato, Aristotle, all were taught in Africa, aryis,the one aryans get the name from, is an African who left Rome after the council of nicea, due to his objections to creating the christ is god lie,and settled in what is now called Ireland, do some real history it's just as interesting.

@Slimythewolf

4 жыл бұрын

@@carlospaige4589 the Greek and Rome view of Africa is different. They describe the former colonies of Carthage as Africa, as it was also named Africa when it became a province of Rome. The later civilisations used that name for the entirety of the continent that we now know as africa.

@anablopez2402

4 жыл бұрын

@@carlospaige4589 No dude. sorry. this is so wrong I just cant let it sit even 4 months later. Aryans were hundreds of years before Christ. a couple thousand actually, as far removed from present day as we are from Christ. Plato and them went to Africa to learn, in Egypt, which at the time had been so warped from Persian influence that you could argue its all Caucasian Inspiration from southern Scythia and Georgia. And I mean that culturally, not a broad term to describe white people today. You fuckers on youtube get hung up on that shit too much as if the USA is the only country ever to have its population made mostly of a hodge podge of migrants and local people. lol if you 'do some real history' instead of following some hack youtube race bait bull shit full of speculative baseless nonsense, you would understand about 6000+ years of which intermixed and mingled with countless cultures is what created what we view today as Egypt. Not just one mindset and identity from the beginning of time until the present. From the Scorpion King unifying the Nile until the Bastardized age of Ptolemy. And that is its legacy. a Spectrum. not a shade.

You could make a series of videos about the Fomorians, telling with more detail each of the stories you mention on this one.

Great video

Wow there is some beautiful art in this video.

Thank You ☺️

Could you PLEASE do a videon on the Aztec god Quetzalcoatl, thanks. 😄🐉😘

@goofybutserious4807

5 жыл бұрын

And I thought Japanese words were hard to pronounce lol

@anablopez2402

4 жыл бұрын

@@goofybutserious4807 ketz-ull-ko-ah-tull half a year late if you haven't mastered it by now

I love that u used Adrian von Ziegler's music! Its so...celtic! 🥰🍀

Do a Fijian myth on either Dakuwaqa or some similar God please! :) ours are unheard of, but they're indeed very interesting!

My Nan always said that the Fomorions where the descendants of Noah via his son Hamm. This always made me happy because our family, the McGee's were a rowdy and ultimately against the grain of society sort. Heck my great grandma was a bootlegger and forager

@notamused3715

4 жыл бұрын

There're Irish people who are extremely civilised but there re still plenty mad feckers around the place who just do what they want, though they usually also have kind and generous hearts.

Vey Hek: "FIRE THE FORMORIAN CANNON!"

@gerryadams7448

4 жыл бұрын

*why are these fools still breathing my air*

anyone remember kings of amalur there was this huge one that you had to slay called the balor and the tuatha were like the bad guys

Another account of the war in which Lugh slew his Fomorian Grandfather he knew of his eye and delayed engaging in battle until the exact moment his grandfather opened his eye. It was also told he knew this was a Formarion tactic his Grandfather deployed first followed by a brutal after charge of his army to slay any remaining stunned shocked and wounded; with rarely few worthy warriors left standing. It was by this tactic, precise timing, placing himself across from he by the landscape knew his Grandfather would be, on top of the miraculous feat of the shot led his army he was charged with gathering; by the town he won over by his knowledge and mastership of seemingly all trades and skills alongside his ability to see the full potential of others utilized to there best in a cohesive effort to fight a war in which none under his command died against impossible odds. Truly a God worth delving more into alongside the often mistaken yet separate being Leigh who is another key to this beautiful mystery

I like how the thumpnail is a boss from the game kingdoms of amalur reckoning

If the relationship between the Irish Gods and the Fomorians is similar to the Gods of Asgard and the Jotnar, do you think that one may have at one point influenced the other?

I'm loving the Irish mythology!

@MythologyFictionExplained

6 жыл бұрын

I'm glad Sherisha

@sherishasewpersadh8889

6 жыл бұрын

Mythology & Fiction Explained may I please have your discord tag ?

I've been reading the iron fey series and learned of the fomorians through it

I would like to see videos on creatures such as the banshee, selkie or the kelpies

The thumbnail is the balor from kingdoms of amalur. It is a species called niskaru. Its a great game

Nice vid

Do a video on the four treasures of Thuatha Dè Danann

bedtime stories. i love it.

Do one for dionysus he is my favorite Olympian please let him go next

I think people are just taking what the Leabhar Gabhala Éireann says as pure fact and ignore any sort of analysis of Ancient Irish Pantheon. OG Irish Pantheon was close to the original Proto Indo European religion, due to the irish isolating themselves in their island, thus their religion was hardly corrupted. The fomhóraigh cannot be seen as the jotnar or the titans, because in the original Indo European religion, such concept was non existant. In Ireland, the fomhóraigh really means "The ones below the sea", as spirits of waters and rivers, like the Aos Sí, who are spirits of hollow mounds. The Gaulish religion does not speak of the concept of fomhóraigh, since it was probable non existant, same among the ancient welsh. The Gods of Ireland, closely resemble their Indo European counterpart. An Daghdha is what we know as the Sky Father, for his name developed from the proto celtic god Dago Devos*, and he is the equivalent with Taranis in Gaul. Tailtiu is basically the Earth Mother Goddess, because her name developed from Talantio* which means "The Earth" and in reality she was the consort of An Daghdha. Conchobhar, Fearghus and Cú Raoi are all euhemerized gods. This means that christian writers, decided to depict these gods as mere legendary kings and heroes, thus stripping their divinity. Conchobhar basically is Zeus, however, he does not hurl lighting, that's the role of An Daghdha. In this case, Conchobhar behaves just like Ódinn or Varunah does. He is a god of kingship and oaths. His name basically developed from Cuno Coboros* which, according to the meaning given by Garreth Olmsted in his book -Gods of the Celts and the Indo Europeans-, it means "He who is victorious because of a hound", thus an allusion to Cú Chulainn, his true son. The name of Cichol aka Cíochal in modern irish, is another name given to Conchobhar, because in Gaul and Brittain, the equivalent to Conchobhar was known as Ciocollos (The Fierce One) or Vellaunos (The seer). Vellaunos and Varunah developed from the IE name of Werunos*.

@ilaughatfunnyshit3482

5 жыл бұрын

Where do you get your material? Super interesting. Would love to read up on some

@elgranlugus7267

5 жыл бұрын

@@ilaughatfunnyshit3482 The Gods of the Celts and the Indo Europeans, a book writen by Garret Olmsted, i think you can find the book and is free.

@ilaughatfunnyshit3482

5 жыл бұрын

@@elgranlugus7267 thanks mate

I see the Fomorians as the Mesolithic peoples of Great Britain and Doggerland who were dark skinned and blue eyed fish eaters because they were lactose intolerant. They were there before the flood (which submerged Doggerland) and made use of underground refugia during the ice age.

@michaelroche3915

2 жыл бұрын

I see the Fomóire as both historical Mesolithic people and supernatural entities rolled and mixed together also with an influence from the Norse raids from the 8th to tenth centuries. The description of the Fomóire at the arrival of Partlán to Magh nEalta describes them as fish and bird eaters which is a strong description of the Mesolithic people given that deer didnt exist in pre Neolithic Ireland although wild Boar did. did..

Hey, could you please do a video on leprechauns? Since it's almost Saint Patrick's Day, I thought it would make sense. LOL Thank you for all your great videos. :)

PLEASE DO ONE ON DIONYSUS!!!!!!

I love this the video❤️❤️❤️

Love the Sláine comics!!

Can you do a video on the Sphinx?

Can you please do a vedio on tir na nog.

I would love to see a video on Tir Na Nog

I’m interested in learning about goncanagh

I'm not too familiar with the Fomorians, however, there is a race of giants that was introduced in Dungeons and Dragons called Fomorian Giants, which are depicted as large, deformed, hulking brutes... so it would seem that they used a little bit of all the descriptions to create the race in the RPG.

Do Cailleach next

Could you do a video on Balor

this either got reccomended to me cuz i watch oldschool legends and lore or i play mabinogi still a little , both make sense and im ok with this

Came from Warframe, stayed for mythology.

@gerryadams7448

4 жыл бұрын

*LOOK BROTHERS* *tits* *HAHA*

In Norse they are called Jötunn, the Native Americans call them Otneyarheh. In Mexico they are called Quinametzin and throughout the Middle East they are known as Nephilim/Amorites/Canaanites/Anakites. Geoffrey Keating said the Fomorians were sea faring descendants of Ham. The Caananites/Amorites were the titanic descendants of Ham. All cultures remember history, even when the story gets changed up a lil.

Some interesting pronunciations there

One year later, and even applicable back then, False King Bres is an Archetype many an Irish politician of nowadays follows the example of. We were warned about someone who would always come around eventually sell us out as a nation and people in our mythology, and yet we have become so spiritually illiterate that we weren't even prepared for that danger. This is why Chrisians cannot be the dominant religion for us anymore. Their lessons didn't account for the survival methods required for a people of an island nation, full of rains, sea, mountains and fresh soil. Their lessons are for living within a sparse desert, and they had no love of either nature or man's awareness of evil, or ability to individual good.

Nice use of Simon Bisleys Slaine art

Please make more Irish mythology videos please.

is that adrian von ziegler playing in the backround?

Fomorian in irish faoi sounded fwee= under , mor = big / also could be fear -sounded far =man, Fir = men so fir- mor = big men and faoi mor would mean big beneath I would guess it means big men 👍

@IWillYeah

5 жыл бұрын

It meant "the undersea ones" or "the giant under(world)/ neither ones" see wiki entry on Fomorians, it's quite good.

Do a mayan myth please

@waomawingu1972

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that would be a nice idea!

@exboyfiend1667

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that'd be cool! :D

@brooklynbeaulne8242

5 жыл бұрын

That would be cool!

Love to see some Aztec and and Mayan mythology

Do Cú Chulainn next

The World of Darkness / White Wolf rpg games have fomorians

i think of the fomorians as the origional inhabitants of ireland. who have won and lost against several invasions, ultimately loosing their dominance but interbreeding and intergrating into prehistorical ireland cultures. their culture that of the loosing side and therefore demonised. through the myths we can know of them knowing fishing, farming and taxation, the later of which (most probably overtaxation) stirred up enough resistence as to cause a civil war.

In my opinion the Formorians are a mix of giant beings, beings of the ocean, as well as representations of deadly or chaotic parts of nature

Do the banshee

Thumbnail looks like one of the bosses from a game I play

is there a god or creature calld rinta or ritna i dont remember wich one but i remember that name from my dream i had

Do you have a discount code for statue kings?

@MythologyFictionExplained

6 жыл бұрын

The channel name was the discount code but I'm not sure if that discount code is still valid.

One resource I know - Carol Rose's Giants, Monsters and Dragons - claims that the Fomorians were transformed into monsters by the Fir Bolg (though other sources say they never met). I kind of imagine the Fomorians to have started out as attractive humanoid giants before somehow being condemned to their various grotesque new forms. After the Tuatha De Danann defeated and overthrew the Fir Bolg, maybe they briefly established an alliance with the Fomorians and helped some of them regain their more beautiful forms, before Bres ruined everything by trying to make them the Fomorians' slaves.

fucking right! Lugh the bright one of skillful hand. 🍻🖒awsome video fella

I am proud to be born in Ireland. We have the best stories

The only time i heard of the formorians was in old stories

*TENNO, THERE WILL BE NOWHERE TO HIDE FROM MY FOMORIANS*

I wish there was more to Celtic mythology like Deities of strength and speed, or nearly unbeatable fearsome monsters like the Hydra of Greek mythos.

@IWillYeah

5 жыл бұрын

There were very likely even more in all Celtic groups. Only some of the Irish Gaelic were written down (thanks to monks for recording it) and the Gauls (also Celts) lost most of their mythology.

@elgranlugus7267

4 жыл бұрын

That's not how Irish mythology works