Mia’s GOE seems awfully low compared to what they used to give the Russian ladies.

I don't like how coaches teach the sick technique. I mean Mia's jumps. It's cheating

@starsmoon0216

Жыл бұрын

Russians are done!!!! Not welcome in the skating community.

Idk maybe ultra c elements shouldn't be done in the junior circuit (especially in women's comps), I would like to see these kids last more than one Olympic cycle

@user-me4yx2yu1f

Жыл бұрын

мальчики прыгают квады с юниорских лет, и ты почему-то не переживаешь за их здоровье. Ты в курсе, что такое доброжелательный сексизм?

@dariakrivolapova

Жыл бұрын

Сексизм? Давайте, девочки сами решат, прыгать им или нет.

@DS-us1vi

Жыл бұрын

They may not be able to do it as adults. Women have a less aerodynamic body after or once beginning puberty.

@wkim22

Жыл бұрын

I don't see any point of holding these girls back from doing what their male counterparts have been doing for a long time. I think they should allow quads in women's short. ISU shouldn't hold these ladies back unless they're insecure of women scoring higher than men which seems to be the case.

From an analytical stance, Mao has better toe loop technique than Mia. Mia steps up one leg first to get into rotation where toe loops are required to have both legs lift off at the same time to be considered textbook quality.

@justappearances

Жыл бұрын

Show me anywhere in the ISU official guidelines that would describe textbook technique as you do it. It doesn't exist, this technique works well on stockier people with short legs and it would not work well on other body types, especially with longer legs. Techniques vary and there's no one universal technique that would work on everybody, ISU knows it, that's why they don't look at it the way you do

@jesuslover2468

Жыл бұрын

@@justappearances Any toe loop with a step-up is called a toe axel and that is not a good toe loop. Body types is not an excuse at all for not doing toe loops properly. Yuna Kim has long legs why didn't she step up into her toe loop? Because she had good coaches and worked to maintain textbook techniques

@aniawacht3882

Жыл бұрын

@@jesuslover2468 what are you talking about, kicking your leg in the air is not a toe Axel, a toe Axel is when you legit do and Axel instead. Just cause you leg kicks up first? That’s good technique in my eyes

@aniawacht3882

Жыл бұрын

@@jesuslover2468 if I’m being honest Yuma kim didn’t have the best toe technique and she was still very short, prob not even 5’4”

@Dddddddwl4fu

Жыл бұрын

Don't say things you don't know. Kim Yu-na is also technically famous. There may be good coaches, but she has made more efforts on her own. What do you mean short? Is 163 short?

good technique , all the girls gather very cleanly in the air , it would be interesting to see their full program 👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥

She really gave up after her first fall and started to look like she didn't even want to be there

у первой девочки вообще прыжки не нравятся, они выглядят хлипко и коряво. У Мао красивые, крутка такая быстрая, что даже не поняла бы, что это был триксель)) Надеюсь, что у нее все сложится! А первой бы технику уверенную поставил кто нибудь, пока она все ноги себе не передумала или спину, что еще хуже..

Mao Shimada’s triple axel is similar with Mao asada’s

Японки как всегда космос 💫

女子の4Tは、やっぱりフルブレで跳ぶ人が多いね。

@reroad7101

Жыл бұрын

トゥへの負担でしょうね〜 まだ子供なのもあって怪我しないようにフルブレにしてるんでしょうね

@LenaLight0204

Жыл бұрын

一理あります。あと、採点の雰囲気はロシアが居なくても、ほとんど変わっていませんし。

@reroad7101

Жыл бұрын

@@LenaLight0204 この子のLz-ToのセカンドT見ればわかるのですが、セカンドTはフルブレで飛んでいないんですよね。 あと、梨花ちゃんが挑戦した4回転がサルコウだったのもおそらく梨花ちゃんはフルブレで跳ぶことができなかったからだと思ってます。 採点、ロシアいてもいなくても確かに変わっていませんね〜。スケ連としてはもうテキストジャンプじゃなくてもいいといった考え方みたいに見受けられます。

@LenaLight0204

Жыл бұрын

それもありますね。成功の条件は、回りきってること、着氷に成功してることの2つでしょうね。

@Catalina_Estevez

Жыл бұрын

Es necesario practicar diferentes quads el 4S, 4F y 4Lo, 4Lz, incluso practicar las combinaciones más difíciles 3Lz+3Lo.

Mia Kalin face at the K&C was a little hearbreaking. She thought that if she landed quads she would medal. Unfortunately she doesn't have the Rusfed/ usfs overscoring. In reality there's nothing much to talk about in her program. Her skating skills are undeveloped, program empty, and she's not engaged during the performance.

@Catalina_Estevez

Жыл бұрын

?? La temporada 2022 SIN PATINADORAS RUSAS, era la oportunidad de competir y tener igual o mejor puntaje que las rusas... Si su Patinadora Mía Kalin no está en el podio es por qué su patinaje es de bajo nivel que no puede superar a las coreanas o Japonesas.... No es culpa de las Patinadoras Rusas o de la Federación Rusa de Patinaje, el pobre nivel de Mía Kalin y las Patinadoras de la ISU.

Thanks, i think 3 axel was 180 pre , but she is lovely girl , love her name (mao) mostly ❤️❤️❤️

@joetam1461

Жыл бұрын

3A with 180 pre is called 3B

@joetam1461

Жыл бұрын

@Christina Scott That 3B is referring to Nathan Chen

@joetam1461

Жыл бұрын

@Christina Scott Also Evan Lysacek

@niln7967

Жыл бұрын

@Christina Scott kamila does Not have 180 pre axel, she is around 90

@niln7967

Жыл бұрын

And for record one has it once doesn't mean he /she has it always, sometimes athletes are nervous or ice situation where they doing their jumps makes it different (wrong) from the way they used to do their jumps normally, i referring it to both kamila and mao v2.0

ミアさんも麻央さんも4Tはモリスみたいにフルブレードだね。 麻央さんの3Aもめっちゃスキッドしてる。

@reroad7101

Жыл бұрын

島田さんはセカンドトゥループをフルブレードで飛んでいないのでおそらく怪我回避のためにわざと4Tはフルブレードなのだと思われます。

島田選手の名前は、「麻央」です。この動画の字体は間違っています。 誤変換しやすいのでしょう。(´-ω-`)

4T is also underrotation. But the American judgers qualified it. This is another scoring propaganda!

@angieortizurena3327

Жыл бұрын

Cause Shcherbakova’s 3,25 Flutz deserve an 4, 76 GOE…🙄

@dariakrivolapova

Жыл бұрын

@@angieortizurena3327 Даже русские задаются этим вопросом, честно говоря

@biscuitcase83

Жыл бұрын

Mia's? It was not even Q on landing so clean Mao's was called under

@biscuitcase83

Жыл бұрын

@@dariakrivolapova They do?! I like Anna but the way she's so overscored is ridiculous...I didn't know Russian fans also had a problem with it

Where is Dave Lease to lie now and say this was legit? US skate is shit, she is 14 doing quads now, these are not going to be there by the Olympics

@jorgebonilla2234

Жыл бұрын

He would agree with you lol. The funniest trope among critics of Dave (and there are valid criticisms to be sure) is that he’s somehow blindly pro-US skaters

@wanderlustxhours

Жыл бұрын

Lmao he’s the first to call out Mia’s bad techniques literally, they don’t complement Mia at all. 😂

No es novedad los saltos ultra C en juniors, pero lo que me sorprende es que no haya más japonesas, Norteamericanas o de otros países, haciendo quads o 3A, Necesitan más competencia en sus propios países y también hacer otros tipos de quads cómo el 4Salchow o 4Flip. Se necesita más avance y no retroceder o estancarse en el patinaje artístico.

@dariakrivolapova

Жыл бұрын

(Скажем спасибо Гугл, что я могу вам понять и вы меня тоже) Я думаю, фигурное катание развивалось из-за России (русские женщины первыми прыгали квады, в прошлом 2021-2022 сезоне русская девочка прыгнула четверной риттбергер, например) А сейчас, уровень будто упал даже, техники 100 среди японоу и американок мы видимо еще долго не увидим

@Catalina_Estevez

Жыл бұрын

@@dariakrivolapova (A Google hay que agradecer no solo entendernos, también conocer que sucede en otras partes del mundo, a pesar de la Censura) Cómo mencionas los Quads y saltos complejos en Damas empezó con las Patinadoras Rusas. la Nueva Era del Patinaje Artístico en Damas que inicio el 2018 con las Patinadoras Rusas Trusova en Juniors y Zagitova en Senior, hizo que el patinaje en damas creciera enormemente. Las competencias internacionales de la ISU en Damas, Parejas y Danza (en Junior y Senior) en esta temporada, obviamente van a ser de bajo nivel por el veto de la ISU hacia los Patinadores Rusos. En la categoria junior en Damas, vemos que muy pocas Patinadoras tienen quads o 3A (solo una Japonesa y dos Norteamericanas), esto muestra que dentro de sus propios países la competencias interna es baja. A diferencia de las competencias nacionales rusas en Junior y Senior, que son competitivas en damas.

@dariakrivolapova

Жыл бұрын

@@Catalina_Estevez Знаете, я согласна я вами. Я думаю, из-за такой конкуренции фигуристки не стараются превзойти себя и других. Это грустно, ведь квады - это круто и зрелищно

@Catalina_Estevez

Жыл бұрын

@@dariakrivolapova Si, una lastima por qué el patinaje artístico femenino y en general debe avanzar y no estancarse o retroceder. La ISU es responsable del bajo nivel de las competencias internacionales está temporada.

@dariakrivolapova

Жыл бұрын

@@Catalina_Estevez Согласна с вами полностью

mao does quadtoe to

@typicalhexx

14 күн бұрын

sorry i didnt see it

Н-да, труба пониже, дым пожиже) Очень сильное копирование школы Тутберидзе, но класс не тот.

@harkmi3

Жыл бұрын

Why are Orcs commenting here?

@user-bg3mc1yo9x

Жыл бұрын

@@harkmi3 кто как обзывается, тот так называется) Это русская поговорка!

@user-me4yx2yu1f

Жыл бұрын

@@harkmi3 а оркам нельзя комментировать? Дискриминация!

@dariakrivolapova

Жыл бұрын

@@harkmi3 потому что можем, представьте Может я и не согласна с комментарием, но опускаться до оскорблений это позорно

上げ選手は見逃されるから正しいジャンプを跳ぶ必要性を感ぢないんだょな

Это им не надо проще русских не пустить и прыгать двойные.

@harkmi3

Жыл бұрын

Hey Orc, don’t you have a Putin rally to attend?

Eteri is ripping her weave out rn 😳

@Catalina_Estevez

Жыл бұрын

No lo creo...desde el 2020 en Rusia otros entrenadores Rusos están entrenando quads y 3A en sus estudiantes junior - Davidov con Samodelkina. - Pluschenko con Titova, Muravieva, Zhilina. En Rusia en la actualidad hay patinadoras de otras escuelas que hacen saltos ultra C (incluyendo a Tuktamisheva con Mishin) Nota: No hay que olvidar las Patinadoras de otros países que compitieron contra las chicas Tutberidze: - 2018 Kihira con sus 3A, en senior. - 2019 You y Kihira ambas con 3A en senior. Y Liu con quads y 3A en junior.

@savanahbabyyyy

Жыл бұрын

Most likely not. Kami just got her 4T back, and Adeliia upgraded a few days ago with a new 4S now having a 4Lo, 4T, 4S, 4F along with a new 3A as well. She might be the new upcoming star of Teamtut seniors with the trio Anna, Aliona, and Trusova out. The new ultra-c senior trio of tut this season might be Kami, Sofia A, and Adeliia since both Maia and Daria have failed to keep up the trio domination last season. Junior Alisa Dvoeglazova is landing more stable 4Lz's which is an upgrade from her original 4T in comps and has gained a 3A. Sofia A still has her 3A, 4T, and 4S. Unless her whole army of ultra-c skaters jump ship to CSKA (joining Aliona and Trusova there) Eteri's weave will remain blonde and intact. She is probably sweating a little about the new CSKA 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 year olds with 3A's, 4F's, and 4Lz's in Russia also going for 3Lz+3Lo jumps like the past two olympians (Anna and Alina). They're gaining fast. Mao Shimada with her nice skating should pray she doesn't end up like Rika at 19 and that she upgrades with a set of 4S, 4F, 4Lo, and 4Lz before Russia's return (the new juniors at 10 years old are already doing 4F and 4Lz with 3A's---honestly I doubt that Russia will be back anytime soon before 2026 but we never know. They might be banned forever). Rika the best of Mae's former students was out almost two seasons and was outlasted by the main ultra-c Tut girls she went up against and missed the olympic face off against her fellow skaters Anna & Trusova. Sadly Rika's still sufferingdoing doubles with a never ending injury after Mie Hamada with those triple axels and unstable quads so Shimada's future based on Rika's does not look too bright. Maybe she'll leave before turning 18 and getting Rika's fate or at least before being "dragged around the rink by her ponytail", enduring physical punishment and joining in the lawsuit against Mie with the other former skaters.

浅田真央にあやかって、親が真央って名前にしたんだろうなぁ。

@reroad7101

Жыл бұрын

お母様が浅田真央さんのファンだそうです。

@niln7967

Жыл бұрын

@@reroad7101 who isn't, Mao Asada =goddess

@reroad7101

Жыл бұрын

@@niln7967 ?? I have no idea with your comment.

@kamui607

Жыл бұрын

「麻央」 読みは同じで字は違いますね。

@WeLoveSkating1

Жыл бұрын

Queen Mao ❤️

I don't think ladies should do quads in juniors.

@Daria.atelier

Жыл бұрын

this is discrimination against women women have the right to do everything the same as men if they consider it possible for themselves. no one has the right to restrict women in their rights and opportunities.

@Jeremy-wp4yh

Жыл бұрын

@@Daria.atelier but women can't do quads. They're not strong enough. The only way women can do quads is through abuse. They have to be anorexic and use poor technique.

@Daria.atelier

Жыл бұрын

@@Jeremy-wp4yh Women have equal rights with men. And it seems to have been decided a long time ago and is not disputed anywhere. If they want to, they have the right to do it.

@Jeremy-wp4yh

Жыл бұрын

@@Daria.atelier eteri has the most injured skaters in the world. She has a very high body count of destroyed bodies. The western world doesn't want that

@Daria.atelier

Жыл бұрын

@@Jeremy-wp4yh You clung to Eteri because you don't like her, you don't like that thanks to her there are many stars in figure skating in Russia now and many victories. This is the result of many years of work by Eteri and her team. It took more than 15 years for these stars to appear. This is primarily the work of a coach, a figure skater and his parents. If they all chose this profession together, then they agreed with all the consequences. Dig up other coaches around the world, how many injured athletes they have and provide objective statistics on all coaches, and do not blame one.

Northamerican are the best now?

@Catalina_Estevez

Жыл бұрын

En mi Opinión las Norteamericanas no son las mejores, están intentando competir, pero les falta aún. Supuestamente las japonesas en junior y senior, deberían estar en los primeros lugares está temporada. Pero en junior solo hay una patinadora japonesa, no hay más. En senior, hay más variedad como Sakamoto, Higuchi, Hamada y el retorno de Kihira (la única con saltos ultra C).

@joseolmos8797

Жыл бұрын

@@Catalina_Estevez el país del norte quiere acaparar todas las luces comprando deportistas talentosos de otros países. Para mí no son para nada los mejores y se extraña el estilo de las rusas no sólo en hielo sino tb en muchas otras disciplinas. Espero todos puedan comprender que el deporte une

@Catalina_Estevez

Жыл бұрын

@@joseolmos8797 Tal cual comentas👍, en mi opinión las competencias de la ISU está temporada van a estar en un bajo nivel en Junior y Senior (sólo Varones tendrá nivel en Junior y Senior). Sin las Patinadoras Rusas, es como ver Catar 2022 sin los mejores países compitiendo. Una lastima que la Hipocresía Política se haya apoderado de los deportes, perjudicando a los atletas rusos y a los fans de los deportes.

@wickedwitch7456

Жыл бұрын

There are many rising Japanese junior skater like mao shimada, hana yoshida, etc and in the men's too. All the junior competitions so far have been dominated by Japanese and Korean skaters. Even now, soho lee is just no 2 after the sp in riga

@Catalina_Estevez

Жыл бұрын

@@wickedwitch7456 - En el caso de las damas junior solo Shimada ha mostrado nivel competitivo en su patinaje (por los saltos ultra C) el resto de Patinadoras junior japonesas no muestran ese nivel. - En el caso de los varones junior japoneses, si hay nivel competitivo en varios Patinadores. - Ante la prohibición de los Patinadores Junior Rusos, deberían ser los Patinadores Japoneses Junior que tomen los primeros lugares en cada competencia. En el caso de las Patinadoras Junior Coreanas en temporadas anteriores hemos visto que están trabajando su patinaje (y entrenando saltos ultra C) Tanto Patinadoras Junior Japonesas y Coreanas, deberían aprovechar la ausencia de las Patinadoras Junior Rusas, Por que también las Patinadoras Junior Norteamericanas, va a aprovechar esto (los jueces van a apoyarlas). Nota: Damas, Parejas y Danza en junior tendrán bajo nivel está temporada, el puntaje es una muestra de eso.

ゆっくり、ジュニアで力を蓄えて欲しいです

Это хорошо, что они делают эти прыжки. Но очень прыжки грязные и тяжелые, мы можем видеть, что до русских девочек им далеко, очень далеко

@yachuchuang3651

Жыл бұрын

Most of Russian girls’ quads look equally stiff and heavy… not to mention their terrible pre-rotations 😂