*Note:* of all the historical dates given in this video, if by any chance you think it's strange or out of context or even impossible, know that in the archaeological context we find human occupation in the Iberian Peninsula as far back as 1.400.000 years ago (the Iberian Paleolithic), so all the dates in this video such as 20.000, 17.500, 7.500 ago are in fact only a fraction of time in the great span of human presence in the Iberian Peninsula. This is how far archaeology can go with physical evidences of human presence, so it might be even older. Here's a fun fact, this time not from Portugal but from Spain: The oldest known map in the world was carved on stone 14.000 years ago, and found in a carvern at Abauntz in the region of Navarra (Cueva de Abauntz).

@alexdunphy3716

4 жыл бұрын

1.4M years is not the date for humans(homo sapiens), it it hominids(pre humans and human-like primates). Humans are only about 350,000 years old

@grannykiminalaska

4 жыл бұрын

❤

@alaruno8325

4 жыл бұрын

I now see the bibliography by the end of the video. Would be good though to get a list of which ones that deals with the continuous development from the Alvão "runes" via the Iberian scripts to the elder Futhark. Because that is the main key here to be able to follow these connections.

@GeorgeP-uj8xc

4 жыл бұрын

You should create a wikipedia page for this with your sources. There's no mention at all of Alvao Writing in any of the Runic pages or even in the Writing history page.

@heliosgnosis2744

4 жыл бұрын

LOVE the video my friend! TRUTH is always so very nice to say the least! :) On the up and soon coming video's you speak of perhaps you should take a look in the mirror and say hmmm this red hair.... where does it begin.. because 30000 years ago give or take the first as we call them ginger genes appeared in 1 female, perhaps contact with another with another culture? Idk, but genetic code is like math, at the end of the day it does not speak to us lies, nor can it be denied. I myself have the genes that are extra vs the "normal" human, but to say normal this is not fair, I am speaking of myself after all as well as countless tens of millions. And this has a GREAT influence on all forms of culture. Especially since the first red headed person in Europe appears bang boom zoooooom out of no where about 30k years ago red headed peoples arise....and all of us adults know the work involved in such additions like so stated here. And as ALL men know, women have that magick of sorts over men, regardless of what age a person may be from that I am sure no one has had complaints of in ALL history. BUT I believe this addition would be a GREAT addition, for genetics seems oh so different from writing, but anyone whom so studies these things know such is FAR from the case. NOT to mention just having these genes should have more of a spotlight upon them for medical reasons. twice as much pain is felt by those among us with them and twice the pain killers and sedation medicine is needed for those with these genes as well. a science fact not many doctors are aware of. You will see what I mean when you... and I do VERY much HOPE you do look this up my dear friend. My agenda is truth, even if that truth causing us to rethink as well as be forced to change what was before thought to be the truth. If we cannot see where we have been on any journey we cannot and will not see where we are going, that is history's true lesson, and NEED. To allow us to repeat the good and avoid the BAD, most mistakes by us all happen from ignoring historical facts. To many today say "Oh history is boring, pointless, happened so long ago" Yet forget the pretty new laptop, Iphone or android phone such comment's are shared to the world with were made possible by that which we call history. Keep up your work my wise open minded, truth seeking brother... they eyes of the one that are opened can very well equal a chain reaction of thousands of eyes being opened.... And in irony that is yet another fact of ye ole history to the fans of it and those who still think it boring, well it will not lie to you, only opinion and long held belief will cause the bending of truth's as we hauamns so all very much like to place on something that needing changing the moment it began to happen. The "Bone war's" known so very well to Paleontology and history in ALL forms is the perfect and sad outcome.....but slowly over time not so quickly and brick wall to car at 70 kph lol :) I hope this sparks a spark for you as it did me, keep the truth coming, this world needs more like you. Wisdom and intelligence are nothing without truth in both. Even when I have my opinion's did not keep me watching, and your facts and evidence have always put me on the same page as you are on. This skill we NEED my friend,, and forgive me but I will post this twice, here and in main comments, just in case you get tired of the disagreeing parties ranting away, for this historical/genetic fact is important to anyone with :)

When I was at school (11-16year old) we had a great English teacher. I was sent to a catholic school and in an English lesson he was asked why is it called “spelling” (to make words from letters) that’s magic and that’s not Christian. His response always stuck with me: it’s the perfect word to describe what you’re doing, you take a letter and string it together to make a word, those words make sentences, paragraphs and books. Knowledge can be spread and translated bringing enlightenment or challenging concepts all through the art or putting letters together... now isn’t that a magical thing. 12 year old me.... mind blown 🤯 Loved the vid found it very enlightening and appreciate your position to keep politics out of truth 👍

@grannykiminalaska

4 жыл бұрын

❤

@librabys

4 жыл бұрын

We formulate ideas. Formula :)

4 жыл бұрын

I like your professor and that sort of philosophy hehe.

@TheNaturalLawInstitute

4 жыл бұрын

RE: Spell (From Spellan : to speak) spell (n.1) Old English spell "story, saying, tale, history, narrative, fable; discourse, command," from Proto-Germanic *spellam (see spell (v.1)). Compare Old Saxon spel, Old Norse spjall, Old High German spel, Gothic spill "report, discourse, tale, fable, myth;" German Beispiel "example." From c. 1200 as "an utterance, something said, a statement, remark;" meaning "set of words with supposed magical or occult powers, incantation, charm" first recorded 1570s; hence any means or cause of enchantment. The term 'spell' is generally used for magical procedures which cause harm, or force people to do something against their will -- unlike charms for healing, protection, etc. ["Oxford Dictionary of English Folklore"]

@TheBee87bee

2 жыл бұрын

Your teacher was in a mindset, unable to comprehend but a minuscule of time in the vast history of humanity. I am sorry you had him as your teacher, but I also experienced Catholicism and its limited doctrine.

HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE MORE FOLLOWERS??? This is easily one of the most interesting channels on KZread!!! Such amazing content always!!

4 жыл бұрын

Well thank you very much for such lovely words! Bring your friends hehe :P

@danythrinbell1596

2 жыл бұрын

we all know that following the ones that spew the true is a difficult mission since it is contrary to mainstream of lies and misinformation

@markjackson3531

2 жыл бұрын

He needs to wear a dress and dye his hair purple, and talk about how terrible White people are....

@TheBee87bee

2 жыл бұрын

@@markjackson3531 No, Arith is fine as he is in this video.

I had no idea the runes had such an ancient history Arith, fascinating. Thank you once again. x

thank you arith, another enlightening video full of knowledge and wise words. it is so unusual to find anything quite like this.

100% brother.. truth is the only thing that matters.. thanks so much for all your hard work!

@alysmarcus7747

4 жыл бұрын

Yes ditto that - -- Thankyou so much Arith - this type of thing in particular has been an interest of mine for about - well close to 40 years, and i was always so frustrated that i would run into walls (or B.s ) trying to find out informations.

Thank you so much for getting out this content, This is a great start on my journey to achieve runic wisdom

You just pissed off probably half your viewers. My man, greatly appreciate your backbone as always.

@mendelovitch

3 жыл бұрын

Why are some people upset about it?

@UhtredOfBamburgh

3 жыл бұрын

I watched the video and couldn't figure out what part was controversial. But he narrated the entire video as if it was a political speech to children

@mendelovitch

3 жыл бұрын

@@UhtredOfBamburgh Someome else said it was about the existence of death penalty in Britain. She said there is no such thing nowadays and he does. According to that commenter, she was right.

@UhtredOfBamburgh

3 жыл бұрын

@@mendelovitch This video is about alphabets man. I have no idea what you are talking about

@mendelovitch

3 жыл бұрын

@@UhtredOfBamburgh Oh oops! Wrong video comments section!

Always a pleasure to watch your videos. This one was particularly inspiring and revealing. Obrigado and cheers!

I’m from Alvão, and I live in Alvão. I’ve known this findings for some years and It amazes me how forgotten this fact is. Cheers to you.

@lordcommandernox9197

2 ай бұрын

100-year-old suppressed archeology, nothing new under the North-West centered Academia sun.

I liked this very much. Language determines so much about thought and perception. finding the roots can explain so much about how we come to see the world.

I was looking for that information all over internet but it is fragmented and you did a great video about it !! Thank you for your work. 🙌✨

Great informational video. More content like yours is needed.

This is one of the most fascinating videos I've ever listened to. I'm already on it my third or so time. Thank you!

Congrats for your point at the beginning of the video. It needs to be said always that we have the opportunity. And thanks a lot for bring all these rich information to us. It was really open mind

Please revisit this subject in how the the Turks expanded to the Great Steppe and the stones and artifacts around Central Asia and Mongolia that have Runic symbols and alphabet.

the audio spike at the very start of the video nearly burst my eardrums mate. But that aside, your content is as always top-notch, thank you for keeping history alive.

Thanks for the video, very insightful.

Arith Häger new subscriber here and your channel is like a "mini museum" in a nutshell, saw one of your videos on Icelandic Staves/Skuggi (Shadow) and really could not resist ;)

Amazing Arith thank you!

Sweeet, yet another awesome video!!! Thank you Good Sir 😉🤗🥰

Arith, I really enjoy your videos. I think you bring to the academic world a spiritual understanding that a lot of scholars lack. As a student of history and archeology and amateur linguist, I like to conduct my own independent research. As a Germanic pagan who often uses runes in every day life, this subject is of particular interest to me, however, I cannot for the life of me seem to find any resources regarding these ancient runes. I have studied the symbols often called "proto-writing" by academics dating back over 40,000 years ago, but somehow the source material for these runes eludes me. I'm honestly not sure how I have gone this long without hearing of this. In short, any help in the matter would be greatly appreciated. Could you please link me some credible resources so that I may study these symbols some more on my own? Online resources or books are fine. I am just here to learn. Tusen takk in advance.

@lordcommandernox9197

2 ай бұрын

Unless you speak Portuguese, there are not many other reliable sources, and even in Portugal archeologists who touch the subject become _personas non gratas_ in their own field. Escrita do Alvão, now linked with the Tartessos Language and Culture.

this video just blew my mind! I owe you my gratitude for bringing this to light for me. now I have to go learn gory all over again

You are a delightful young man and I love your channel. The truth still matters

Your videos are most informative, intelligent, and engrossing!

Thank you so much Arith, fascinating and factual. So rare in the U.S. these days. Always a fan! Stay healthy my friend.

Great video was wondering your knowledge about ogham and it's origins thanks

What an amazing amount and variety of new anthropological information (to me). Thank you so much for sharing! You may have just rekindle my fascination with paleolithic peoples and ignited a geographic area I hadn't yet been drawn to. I've been forlorn by all of the genetic research that overshadows archaeological research and felt the prehistoric era of western Europe was inaccessible.

I was taught that the Germanic Rues were not influenced by the Italic alphabet but rather, the Italic letters were assigned to the runes based on how similar they looked; i.e. Sol was assigned S and Tyr was assigned T etc...

@theexaltedexplorer3945

2 жыл бұрын

That is correct

This is something I had no idea about! Growing up I always learned about cuneiform and that’s it. This is simply fascinating to learn about different systems.

Great Arith! I have always had the feeling there was something missing about origin of Runes...the different order of Elder futhark runes and other futharks always let me wandering... Many years ago in my studies I came accross these Alvao simbols called celt-Iberian runes, but did not have enough historical infos to understand properly... The way you explain original runes in this video is for me a very good help to teach them in the way I have always felt. Thank you so much my friend, you give me the proof I had the right perception... Hope you will go deeper about this topic, it is for me very interesting and important, and also hope soon you will speak about the turkic/siberian runes... as we have been speaking lately.

@allyriastark3508

4 жыл бұрын

Turkic tamgas/runes are certainly interesting, they are in their essence are symbols used by different clans and families to differentiate their cattle from others, and the tamgas have words associated with them like b¹ is read as eb and means home while b² is bur and means twist, the same is true for other consonants, wish he will make a video about them!

@SiddhaGiovannaBellini

4 жыл бұрын

@@allyriastark3508 thank you! Looking forward for it!

@infinite5795

2 жыл бұрын

@@SiddhaGiovannaBellini your first name reminds me of an Indian friend, is it pronounced with a aspirated d like in Sanskrit?

Thank you ,my words can not express my gratitude and appreciation for your lessons, and I look forward to the next .

I had no idea, thank you so much for posting this video.

I loved it kiddo and found it most informative as I am a great lover of truth .... however there are many out there that will always believe what they wish to believe truth or not .... an old saying goes ' you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink ' or 'you can lead a man to knowledge but you cant make him think ' !

Aw dude!! truth is even better I thought!! my Grandma was near from there. I have always been in love with that specific area from Iberian peninsula and that make it even more interesting I may ever imagine!

Unbiased truth has me hitting that sub button. 👍 Amazing info can't wait to learn more.

This is all absolutely fascinating Arith. More please.

Das war ganz schön! Das hat mir gefehlt! Vielen Dank.

Do you offer an online course that would result in a certificate of some sort? If not, you should start one. You've been a great teacher and have been watching your videos, lectures, for years.

@nordicjourneys

4 жыл бұрын

Josva The Noble Fool I think he would be against that as I am sure the neo pagan organizations he is speaking about do that.

@josva9124

4 жыл бұрын

@@nordicjourneys true..just saying, guy could run a university course or something with amount of information he teaches. I enjoy the content on your page as well! You need to upload more frequently.

@nordicjourneys

4 жыл бұрын

Josva The Noble Fool thanks I hope to get the itch inspiration too

@eddykohlmann471

2 жыл бұрын

@@josva9124 Universities are part of the problem. They all have an agenda of some kind.

@joejoelesh1197

2 жыл бұрын

What are you hoping to do with such a certification? Just to have something to hang on your wall when you planning on selling your services?

I love the video. It's important and awesome to know where things come from. I also understand the rant but I can do with out it. 11 minutes to start the video was disappointing. But as always, your knowledge is amazing and greatly appreciated!

If you want to skip the political part, the actual video starts at: 11:05

@the_mystery_of_stonehenge

2 жыл бұрын

When he makes these vague reference to racists, is he referring to western people who are outraged because they have been deceived by a news owner conspiracy into being overrun by endless waves consisting of the most extreme racists in the world? Does anyone know what his bent is?

@animatechap5176

Жыл бұрын

Get a life

@inabsolutedarkness13

11 ай бұрын

Grow up

@UhtredOfBamburgh

11 ай бұрын

@@inabsolutedarkness13 sounds like someone's upset lmao

Fantástico trabalho, muitos parabéns, fiquei muito curioso por saber mais sobre o alfabeto do Alvão. Obrigado Arith.

That was a perfect introduction The Truth

Thanks, very instructive info!

This blew my mind... How do i as a dos santos not know this.. thanks for the enlightenment Arith, so glad i found this channel

Grazie infinite Arith .

Amazing information! Will blow people's minds and most will vehemently(or secretly) disagree! I suspected some of what you said years back when I was studying Iberia on my own. Thank you!

Thank you so much ...your an amazing teacher

Thank you Arith , I'm portuguese and a follower of your videos because I study runes in spiritiual and esoteric side. I ever asked my self if Alvão writing and southern runic writing ( Algarve ) weren't the birth of norse runes systems , and it happen that probaly they were. Thank you!!!

@SensitivityGames

6 ай бұрын

Yes and no. Still not sure for my self. Could be both incorrect and we still miss a link. Why do I think that? Oogham language. That's why.

What a wonderful video - thank you so much, your teaching style is really great - I was spellbound ! I arrived here because I have been following Ancient history of all sorts, but primarily the story of the Welsh peoples, and I have learned so much about how the Western seaboard was the natural 'pathway' in ancient times, so that there was always a lot of trade & movement of peoples using the sea since travel overland was more difficult because of the heavily forested territory & also the difficulty of traveling thru multiple tribal areas. This knowledge of how writing of an actual language arose ties right in with the claims of the Welsh to their ancient roots & their written language, which is being re-discovered recently, as it had been deliberately removed from daily use by the English ruling class.

As a Portuguese, this really blew my mind. Also your pronunciation of Portuguese names were perfect, and those were not easy names! Amazing work dude, congrats :)

@danythrinbell1596

3 жыл бұрын

, ALBERTO CASTELO did deciphered that runic Stella and knew that that , was the first script of the world but , there is always since ancient times ways of manipulating the true em favor the ones that are players of the moment

@carlosmiranda2005

3 жыл бұрын

That's because indeed he's Portuguese.

Always appreciate your videos. can you point me to the studies that show R1b comes from Portugal? thanks. so R1a is from Western Asia? and moved east?

I guess the same people who disagreed and argued with me haven't watched you video either. Awesome video very underrated content. ✌️❤️

Great video

To be honest you gave me a very interesting perspective. As you say I ignored effect of western europe but not on purpose. I amazed by your video and I'll be your sub immediately. İt's fascinating. By myself I've clicked this video for learning about more information about runes but I found much better.

Arith: have you thought about the connection that Irish Mythology makes between their origins in Spain and the existence of Celtic cultures in Galatia, the Celt-Iberian languages, etc. It just seems like there is a strong Celtic connection to that part of the world.

@76456

Жыл бұрын

Some state that celts came from todays turkey amd passed first on the shout of europe, while going north, extabeleching communitys on Iberia, and northen, western europe

Needful and beautiful. Thank u

Fantastic information! I'm from North of Portugal and follower of the old pagan ways And express it through my music! Keep doing your videos!

Hmmm... then how come (*hagalaz in runes) is not pronounced /o/ as in the Iberian scripts? is supposed to come from Phoenician , which on the Greece-side of the Mediterranean gets interpreted as /h/ or /e/, but on the Iberian side as /o/. Why isn't the rune with the name *othala? NOTE: I've been attempting to research this for YEARS... the problem has always been a lack of sources.] Are you trying to say that runes descend from Iberian cave art which descends from an African tradition that goes back to the beginning of Homo sapiens and is the same tradition perhaps that Egyptian hieroglyphs ultimately come from - which, later, developed its own cuneiform* system which spread northwestwards, while in the meantime eastwards came the lineal writing style - that is, the runic or rune-form - to replace the cuneiform* because it's easier? And if all that is true (no idea if it really is), then would it not be possible to take a list of typical cave-art designs - ones repeated around the world consistently through the ages (like in the book by Genevieve von Petzinger) - and say that this or that letter, or this or that rune, seems to ultimately descend from this or that sign that is still used by any people who has preserved the tradition of cave art, such as the Australian aborigines? But the time-period is so vast that I think what I'm writing is too speculative and therefore I am tempted to erase it before anyone is misled. But I'll leave this blurb here, so hopefully people can add their thoughts. *which did not exist, there was no Greek cuneiform. maybe what you are talking about is a tradition of inscribing letters in a certain way that was passed down by stone- and metal-workers to their apprentices, that went eastwards? Are we talking about a style of writing or a writing system? Unclear. Are the runes actually their own writing system, or a style of writing imposed on writing systems?

Great video Arith! Has there been any underwater archaeology done along the coast of Iberian peninsula? It would be very interesting to see if there are artifacts from the Alvaõ culture to be found there.

What a great video, very interesting! Greetings from🇨🇭

Thanks Arith, I'm 1/4 Portuguese and I am happy to know that information! I have always wanted to go back in time and live the way they lived back then since I was little! It explains alot? Lol

-looking forward to the promised videos. Especially interested in the headspace of the pre-dagoland Atlantic cultures, why did they do things, what did they do?

I found this video by looking for videos about Hungarian runes, and while this is somewhat off-topic, I still appreciate it enormously.

Fantastic video Sir👍🤓👍

excellent and fascinating - thank you for this.

This is beautiful, thank you so much sir! (I´m the mr. Sutherland groupie ;) )

Hi Arith, amazing video, nice job! I wonder how come I have't seen it before! However I would like to ask you what your opinion on Vinča culture would be and how it fits to the whole narrative. So far I found it plausible that Etruscan ,,writings,, originated more likely from Vinčan writings (since they are almost the same) than from Phoenician. I wonder because Vinča culture is suposed to be dated back to ca. 5500bc. I hope you could give me your thoughts on that aspect of the topic if possible, cheers!

Amazing 😮👍 Very extraordinary work

Hola Arith, muy interesante y gracias por compartir la bibliografia. Te aconsejo el libro de Alain de Benoist "Runes" si aún no lo as leído. Saludos y sigue adelante con tu excelente trabajo.

Arith: UPDATE: This just isn't true Arith. This isn't a writing system. The consensus is, and has been, that these symbols, common across europe, have some sort of meaning. Runes are not of european origin. Writing didn't develop in europe because we lacked the dense production of irrigated flood river valleys, that were easily ruled and taxed by small armies. Writing evolves from symbols and accounting of inventory, debts and taxes. The evolution of the runes backward into europe is something we have know for a long time. We need the reconstruction of our history, and our natural religions, and our emotional attachment to our people, ancestors, traditions. Your interpretation of our religion is excellent. You produce a coherence from scarc records and creative interpretation. But hou mix exceptional content with falsehood. But too many of you who are producing this content cross the line into nonsense. Thanks. --- Any source material? I can't find anything other than a drawing of three dolmas in Alvão, the related carvings in france and the balkans, and general scholarly opinion is that these were not characters (glyphs, letters) but symbols (like swastika etc). Is there something new out?

@alaruno8325

4 жыл бұрын

I would like to know more too. If this is the "truth" as Arith claims, we need to know where to find the source material.

Hello Arith. Such a good video and valuable information. If i undetstood well, you say that the phoenician alfabet looked like a cuniform before it became alphabet? If thats true, is there a evidence of how the phoenician alphabet looked like (as an cuniform) before it got the design we know as alphabet? And also, what do you think of Vincha runic scripts found in Balkans that dates back to 6.000 to 7.000 years ago, same as the Alvao scripture?

I do not know if you check back on these I've watched this video several times I find it fascinating I would like to hear more about what little we may know about the culture that produced these runes if anything at all. If possible I would love for you to expand on this subject.

It was very useful thank you. So what was the original alphebet of the celts and germanic people then? Was it Ogham and then they adopted the runes?

Did the Gonchs of the canary islands use some of these writing systems? Thank you great info

thank you for this video

Friend: I am so lucky to be directed to your canel by the Gods. I give you a thumbs up and a like to all of them. Keep up the good work. Melvin D

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you friend ^^ I appreciate your help! Welcome and enjoy! :D

Excellent video. You might find it interesting to know the gulf-stream that runs near the western coast of Scandinavia allowed ancient “Scandinavians” to dwell in at least two locations in present-day Norway during the last Ice Age. That's why Hel was worshiped, since the concept of Hel reflected the “hell” i.e. the rock/mountain (in Swedish, hell still means “surface of rock”, for example Helleberget which means Mountain of Hel, and the ancient phrase “hel och ren” which means “healthy and clean”.) Also, it should be noted tha caves in the mountains during Ice Age living conditions protected humans, and kept them “healed”. Hence the (in the minority) accepted theory (amongst a few Swedish, Norwegian, and Finnish scholars) exist that the northern people of Hel gave its name to Hel-vetica, Hel-las, and Hel-ios (helios is Greek for the sun, a primary source of healing to any sane man or woman!) When the ice in ancient/northern Scandinavia melted, the people trapped behind the ice are believed to have migrated southwards (there are some etymological connections with the Basque culture, where a number of root words are shared with the ancient people of “Hel”. Finally, it should be noted that is not coincidence that placenames in Scandinavia still bear the old name of “mother earth” namely Hel-singborg, Hel-singland, Hel-sinki, and so on.

@ninatutanota3720

3 жыл бұрын

Draugablikk thank you for your comments. I wondered if the word Help may also come from this original meaning and perhaps meant saviour and this then may also add to the meaning of why the Sun would have been called Helios?

Have you read the gotlandic alphabet from wulfilas? I tried writing them and I have sort of changed the symbols to cooler looking and its weird, I wrote letters and starting recognizing art, when you write runic letters you sense different cultural changes and I sort of think I am looking at some lost Germanic tribe writing

thanks for the lesson

thank you!

This is a great video.

i love the video and im fascinated by pre- indo-european europe, what are some good books/ resources to learn more???

The word 'rune' means hidden knowledge, and is older than writing. The word 'rune' was applies to letters when the were encountered by Germanic people, because it accurately describes what letters and writing do, which is spread knowledge.

Great! Thank you. You should check out the Southwestern Iberian script and the Alvão letters. Many similarities.

11:11 when the content you clicked for starts but instead you hit rewind

@kobi118

3 жыл бұрын

me: releasing i wrote this comment too early, after 1 hour of watching 26:26 minutes

South east asia also has runic alphabets, here in the Philippines the most common is called Baybayin. My own tribe/ancestors(the Kapampangans) who are in a province called Pampanga have their own called Kulitan.

@76rjackson

3 жыл бұрын

The indigenous pre Spanish script I was shown from the PI look to have been based on Indian script but I only saw one example so it's interesting to learn there were other types. Thank you

Incredible!!! Could you give us some academic references about these archeological findings please?

4 жыл бұрын

At the end of the video friend, the bibliography. Have fun! Thank you ^^

@LouisAzevedo

4 жыл бұрын

Oh sorry I missed it. Thank you!!!

Cheguei ao video certo!!. Tens todas as respostas que eu procurava. 🙏 Ass: uma curiosa sobre a escrita do sudoeste.

Our history is much older than we know. Thank you for all your diligent work.

maybe books or other source to read/study? I would know more

@alaruno8325

4 жыл бұрын

I want to know more too! I see the bibliography by the end, but it's not very likely that all viewers will be able to look up all those titles just to find more information about for example the Alvão "runes". So more info about them and the development process via the Iberian scripts to the elder futhark would be good.

@danythrinbell1596

3 жыл бұрын

it got in that blog references to the runic language of koni people from south of Portugal

@lordcommandernox9197

2 ай бұрын

@@danythrinbell1596 "Center" of Portugal, the Conii were in upper Alentejo, not the Algarves. But you're "correct".

Thanks for the video. Please note that the bibliography that you added in the end of the video does not include any original peer-reviewed scientific archaeological study pertaining Alvao runes. I'd appreciate if you could provide one example, because I was not able to find any so far. Also, according to an archeology book published in NY in 1996, those runes were simply "faked artifacts" (Page: 95 : Nationalism and Archaeology in Europe, eds: Margarita Díaz-Andreu, Timothy Champion - NY-1996). I am curious to hear your opinion about that.

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly understandable. Indeed for almost a century they have been taken as forgeries, as during the late 19th century there was a lot of amateur archaeology being done all over Europe, and with the rise of Nationalism and the fervent need to find a cultural identity, most of archaeology was prey to the political movements of the time. Every country was doing their forgeries, UK, Germany and Sweden most of all (including rune engravings). So there was a very suspicious atmosphere and no one was believing in anything found in archaeology because almost everybody was making forgeries to legitimise their political claims even to territories. I myself did not believe very much in the Alvão script/runiform to be real, until I started my degree in History and Archaeology first, and was taken to see the runes on the walls of a cave which I thought my professors at the time were playing with me as they knew I was interested in runes and had been into runology for some time before archaeology. They are real, the ones from the cave, they have approximately 5000-6000 years. However, there's still the case of the ones on artefacts which are in exposition in the Archaeological Museum of Vila Real, Portugal. Those were indeed thought to be forgeries until quite recently. Due to the vast fascist-nationalist politics rotting away the core of past archaeology, many subjects were left untouched and forgotten and the Alvão runiforms/scripts remained untouched and forgeries. Fortunately, back in 2018 this caught the attention of National Geographic, and they have written extensive about the Alvão script. This caught the attention of many people, including myself. We just need to wait until we all get back to certain subjects that have been in the shadows for too long and return to the study and written extensively about it. The Alvão script has been finally considered to be real back in the 2010s. I will return to this subject eventually with more information and new sources. As soon as I may I will also visit the Archaeological Museum at Vila Real (being an archaeologist gives me free pass hehehe) but sadly do to covid many things got postponed. But I shall return to it. Just a little more patience. I do understand what you are saying and I have been in the same position, and now it'squite frustrating trying to deliver information about it and show that it is the real thing. It isn't easy but I believe we shall get there. It took me a long long time and a lot of study to be convinced they were real too.

Arith, you’re always fascinating...other then that one time, the safeword was Banana thank the gods😂

I am of Spanish Heritage of course meaning that I’m Western European and I am rather intrigued by this archaeological discovery

The thought of ancient civilizations long vanished gave me the idea of cross-referencing where those ancient civilizations could've been on the globe and where oil is absent. Oil should've been plentiful given how much life there was and how much time has passed? Or does it just disappear? It could help research their levels of advancement and tech progress. Wow, is time vast. It probably sounds very stupid and it most likely is, but it was worth a shot.

cool whats your thoughts on 'Kolbrin' / Coelbren ? is this a real alphabet language as theorised by Wilson & Brackett ? it looks very much like Runes

@FireInTheSoul

3 ай бұрын

Nice to see this comment, coelbren is always being overlooked.

Great pronunciation of Alvão! You sound like a portuguese native!

I remember when I first got into paganism and discovered the runes. because of my personal experience I absolutely LOATH miss information. You see what ever I was reading on them told me the Norse Runes came from the Druids. Yes You just read that correctly! I was miss lead for over a year! I wish I remembered the Authors that were spreading these lies, but I do not remember. I found out later that this information was Wrong. So I absolutely appreciate it when people take the time to correct falsehoods. Thank you very much Arith! :-)

@colinp2238

4 жыл бұрын

The Druids did not write but taught and spread their knowledge orally, unfortunately today most people only know one version of oral practices.

@Polyton7

3 жыл бұрын

As I fellow pagan I cant be bothered to read it

@SensitivityGames

6 ай бұрын

​@@colinp2238druids wrote in oogham....

@SensitivityGames

6 ай бұрын

They were right sort of. I did not knew of this part. But I do know druidic oogham has had influences.

thanks ...make somuch sense...

I absolutely love this. Language and methods of communication are a passion of mine...although I'm not much for actually communicating. But this got me wondering what you think of the idea that Otzi the Ice Man was a messenger. The idea hit me while watching a video about him that brought up that he was carrying a bundle of thongs which were knotted together and then each thong was tied into an intricate system of knots. I know that such knotty messaging systems existed in places like South America, and though I'm not sure about them elsewhere, I cannot see any reason why it could not have evovled in Eroupe as well.