Actual ANCIENT footage 😭

@kujojotaro9192

18 күн бұрын

not that ancient doe

@XGus_F

18 күн бұрын

it ain ttho

@whatthewatthe

18 күн бұрын

He used this clip atleast 3 times bruh 😭

@pokohoko9575

18 күн бұрын

I don’t think this guy has anything else going on in his life 💀

@mastermomo4993

18 күн бұрын

@@kujojotaro9192 its from last year hallowtide.

Bud got whooped in the background footage 😭

@PugoDev

18 күн бұрын

i was not ready to see that assassination 💀

@darkmatter9643

18 күн бұрын

@@PugoDevit was a mid assassination, they used to deal 5.5 bars

@Flashout.J3

18 күн бұрын

Did you see what he got hit with? 💀💀

This is your finale challenge deepwoken devs... Make a update the community doesn't hate..

@The_Emperor823

18 күн бұрын

Oh hell nah jigsaw yo ass tweaking

@TijnHams

18 күн бұрын

This update they're gonna nerf bombs, they gon increase wind up and add an indicator when you throw a bomb

@iamayumpig

18 күн бұрын

@@TijnHamsgood

@TijnHams

18 күн бұрын

@@iamayumpig Lowkey not too mad as long as it doesn't hinder the way I use bombs

@jahni5285

18 күн бұрын

​@@TijnHams what about the dmg? Is that getting touched too?

Ever since they massively reworked the game prior to public release, deepwoken has struggled with the split identity of being a "survival" permadeath adventure game and a battleground toolbar cycling arena fighter, survival is basically non-existent and the only reason people run out of food or water is by forgetting to stock up due to how little it matters, there's no temperature or injuries or any other mechanics that are staples in survival games and yet they keep trying to push this concept. Because it isn't really a survival game there's no reason to ever dualspec (take both PVE and PVP talents) and there isn't really a reason to take PVE talents as PVE becomes incredibly easy to do on PVP builds once you learn how to do it, the only exceptions being hellmode and deluvian where the difficulty doesn't stem from hard attack patterns or smart ai, but rather throwing 50 monsters at you at the same time because the PVE at its core is just a slightly higher class of bandit beater. That leaves the PVP which is divided into Chime and Ganking, Chime has consistently been awful because people will innovate the most psychotic builds to avoid playing the game and cheese to victory as the mantra system and overabundance of abilities lends itself to rogue lineage style toolbar cycling instead of actual skill based gameplay, whereas Ganking which has always been the "true endgame" (outside of the endless loop of farming DVM gear to farm more DVM gear) gets worse by the update and wasn't really that great to begin with on release. Setting up ganks is a massive pain in the ass as if you want to fight anywhere outside of Etris it takes forever to find people unless you voidwalk them(which is its own separate problem with how it nullifies distance and makes you unsafe no matter where you are and what precautions you take, much like how snap gate became a massive issue in rogue) and even when you do gank not only is it unrewarding as killing people means little outside the depths but you frequently deal with the same bullshit as in chime although it is somewhat less effective when not in an heavily constrained 1v1, and at least its fun which can't be said for anything else in deepwoken. This is ignoring the other significant issues like how PVP is balanced seemingly exclusively around chime despite it being only a subset of PVP, ignoring the issue of the games split identity and even making it worse with spending considerable amounts of time adding new modes instead of fleshing out the ones we already have, and the neverending powercreep that at this right the game basically plays itself

@t_3kkn

18 күн бұрын

Yap 😂

@goofygaber

18 күн бұрын

Yap 😂

@blackghost9185

18 күн бұрын

agreed 100%

@mrtaxcollector9552

18 күн бұрын

split the paragraphs apart so it’s not a big text wall

@aiko9728

18 күн бұрын

true true, i appreciate you took the time and effort to write this as i took much interest

Alright firstly the game was turned into this PvP and PvE section thing by the devs themselves you cant just add mobs like the corrupted broodlord who absolutely shred any build and expect us to not make builds centered around dealing the maximum amount of damage to kill them. PvE builds have been a thing since ever aswell people made attunementless M1 builds just to deal with L1 depths farming PRE HELL MODE ancient asf are you tweaking. Secondly what about variety? if the devs just nerf PvE builds wheres the variety everyone's gonna be running the same m1 build in the end and boom there you go. And to go against that point about ganking on a PvE and being helpless who tf ganks on a PvE build bro 😭no common sense is being used I get you need them views but make it make sense. If they wanna nerf PvE builds they need to keep them viable. And also your little note about minmaxxing a PvP majority people get guildmates and friends with a **PvE** to carry them in l2f2 which makes perfect sense its not that you need the pve it just makes it much more efficient since why am I sitting 8 cycling ethiron with a light weapon when my pve friend in this instance could 1 cycle and finish it real quick for the both of us. those 8 cycles are just wasted time which could be saved with (guess what??) a PvE build. I expect better of you next video, Thank you,

@LucasTgm.

18 күн бұрын

FR hes speaking facts

0:56 It definetly doesn't help that PvP is super unapproachable for someone who isn't decent at it or is newer because of things like cheese builds, floods/ganks in general, and voidwalkers' mechanics.

@atFate

18 күн бұрын

if you suck just say it

@festive1199

18 күн бұрын

@@atFate the game isnt even remotely balanced game went from 80% skill verse 1 to 30%

@atFate

18 күн бұрын

@@festive1199you just suck bro

@dominicballinger6536

18 күн бұрын

​@@atFateif you hate your comminity just say it

@_thecrossway

18 күн бұрын

​@@atFateim gonna touch you lil bro

they need to stop calling mob spam "difficulty" when its all an artificial brainless statcheck m1 spam simulator.

@vanillajellyfish

18 күн бұрын

Is adding a new hard boss or mob really gonna solve the issue either, though? Do you remember what happened with mudskipper broodlords before they were nerfed and made a bit less abundant on the surface?

@feesh2955

18 күн бұрын

@@vanillajellyfish ok but they haVE 45K FUCKING HEALTH when corrupted, when they're not corrupted they're compeletely fine

@Illumina1414

18 күн бұрын

​@@vanillajellyfishI think spending a bit of time to create enemies that create interesting combinations would be a good thing and make the game much more interesting. Imagine if, in the Diluvian Mechanism, instead of 25 mudskippers, 10 sharkos and 5 lizards who all attack you at the same time, what if you fought 6 enemies- 2 for area denial and ranged AOE, 3 for melee combat who circle their targets, and 1 who buffs or heals its allies? Why even create instanced 'dungeons' like the Diluvian Mechanism (which totally ruin immersion and the interesting open world aspect of the game), if they don't actually do anything interesting with the enemy encounters in said instanced dungeons? I don't understand the developer's unwillingness to add more NPC AI (the Duke boss literally uses the Bandit AI with a shield...), however I can only put it down to laziness at this point. Can't say I'm surprised though. They get away with as little effort as possible because clueless people just loooove to play and support low quality products.

@vanillajellyfish

18 күн бұрын

@@Illumina1414 it seems to me like the unwillingness to make better AI is a roblox limitation thing. The current AI deepwoken has is dramatically better than almost all the other roblox games' AIs from how they function, and I've loosely heard that it's put strain on the game before. The reason it feels like it doesn't matter though is from a mix of power creep and everyone knowing how to exploit the weaknesses the AI so it makes fighting them a joke.

@Illumina1414

17 күн бұрын

@@vanillajellyfish Them being exploited by the playerbase is down to the poor design of the AI. Also, it's not a Roblox limitation. Instanced dungeons shouldn't run into these 'limitations' either, (even tho there isn't any limitations).

PvP players when they find out they are the vocal minority and not everyone has been playing since day one and actually just wants to play the real game without getting fucked in the ass every five minutes by the meta build of the week:😧

@abdulrahmanm1280

18 күн бұрын

genuinely true. dan is just complaining cuz he's a chronic pvper and just whines whenever there's something that's beneficial to the pve community

@dominicballinger6536

18 күн бұрын

PvE players when opinions exist

@al-li4ct

18 күн бұрын

Doom posting at this point

@aiIeri

18 күн бұрын

Me when i cant learn anything but spam my brains out with mantras and m1s with a pve build

@pokohoko9575

18 күн бұрын

Me when I run away from a game’s core gameplay and avoid it like the plague instead of playing the game and improving 😧

"Its not bad game design" from the devs is wild considering we are only at this point where builds need to be hyperspecialised to do pve BECAUSE of the way they designed the game.

@DanVR1

18 күн бұрын

in order to min max a pvp build we have to do L2 and all that shit without any special gimmicks. You dont NEED anything.

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

js say you suck ass bro

@abyss4996

18 күн бұрын

People can do bosses and most PvE without a specialized build, cope harder

@VicarioussChallenger

18 күн бұрын

@@DanVR1 good luck doing hellmode and diluvian on your pvp build Dan Virtual Reality

@DanVR1

18 күн бұрын

@@VicarioussChallenger I have multiple times after the combat tag change it’s not that deep

"Think about how the old game was" we aren't in the old game, we are in a cocomelon anime battlegrounds sandbox

@pokohoko9575

18 күн бұрын

Greed corrupts all

pretty bad take saying its the persons fault for making a pve build and not being able to fight a build dedicated for pvp, you dont make a pve build with the intent to pvp thats just a bad take on it, rest of the video is fine I agree with most the takes. but that one is a pretty bad take imo. whatever ur plan is with a build, pve/pvp ur obviously going to dedicate those cards and stats to be the best it can be for that specific area because no one wants to hybrid and then not be able to have the biggest advantage they can have when they are trying to pvp but have pve talent cards vs someone just doing pvp.

@Sc5ch

18 күн бұрын

Bro what? What he's saying is to stop complaining about getting destroyed by pvp builds when you dedicated your build to pve. "You don't make a pve build with the intent to pvp." So? You're going in with the assumption of not dealing with pvp, not a guarantee, so you're braindead for complaining about something you willingly did to yourself based on that assumption. Another advantage you guys have is the ability to theoretically get anything they want without touching pvp. Pvp players have to pve to make their build. Idk why some pve feel so entitled to things staying as is.

@rr3d942

18 күн бұрын

​​​​@@Sc5ch Fr bro this is the type of guy to be like: OHHH NOOOOOO I GOT GANKED ON MY PVE ON A "mostly" PVP FOCUSED GAME PLEASE CHANGE THIS ARCHY MAGY.

@cool-dh7wj

18 күн бұрын

@@Sc5ch The fact that you need to dedicate your build to pvp to even have a chance is sad enough lmao

@hxrprd

18 күн бұрын

@@Sc5ch noone complained about dying to pvp builds yall just pulled that outa nowhere 😹😹

@lottabedhead

18 күн бұрын

@@hxrprd no literally LOL

the dvm argument doesn't sit right with me. having a build gutted is one thing, but changing dvm overall guts ALL builds FOREVER. it's not like nerfing gale will negatively impact ironsing or shadow, so individual nerfs dont make every single pvp build ass after them. it's not the same.

@Sc5ch

18 күн бұрын

Compare the amount of nerfs in pvp to pve and it more than makes up for it.

@pokohoko9575

18 күн бұрын

@Sc5ch I don’t usually defend pve, but why are you conparing them to each other like they’re competing or facing each other???

the issue with deepwoken balancing is that from the start people never looked for skilled builds, they were looking for cheese and like most roguelikes there are overpowered builds that stomp a casual one and the devs kept hammering on that by releasing shrine of order, mantras that can be casted in neutral with no punish and weapons that give 3 or more mixups for totally free.

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

That's what happens when you put people in a hard game - they look for the easy way to win

i think its also cause alot of the new pve content is possible only on pve builds (dilluvian)

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

Therefore they should close the gap so pvps can also do diluvian, maybe not as easily though. It would make the game feel more inclusive and honestly be more exhilarating beating wave 50 with 3 pvp builds

@cool-dh7wj

18 күн бұрын

@@guadamole391 or just reworking the difficulty and making the mobs actually hard to fight , not just giving them tons of stats...

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

@@cool-dh7wj fair

One small issue is that some PVE players cant PVP so that's why they go PVE, and so help me god if someone says something along the lines of "It's not that hard to learn PVP" or "Just make a good build" are idiots, the game isn't friendly to those who wish to learn PVP due to the fact that whenever a new PVP player tries to PVP they are met with either a Cheese build, a Silentheart Chime Sweat, or a Dawnwalker geek.

@random6498

18 күн бұрын

They definitely need to make chime of conflict more about practicing PvP. Right now there's no way to practice it without just dying and losing everything. New players are punished heavily from attempting to learn PvP and that scares people off of it, rightfully so. It's why PvE and trackstar builds exist, the game is too punishing for people who aren't already good at it for them to ever learn.

@fullcrackheadalchemist2907

18 күн бұрын

dont forget the large hats small dick light weapon users

@justagamer2091

18 күн бұрын

The skull system is the main flaw in chime. Like if they remove that or at least add some unranked mode and let people practice it would be better.

@Oversent

18 күн бұрын

@@random6498 chime isnt about pratice though, it's ranked pvp that's like saying making apex ranked centered around getting better no, if pves wanna get better then they can gank, they can run 1s with friends its more about how much time u rly wanna put into it

@cookie_rater

18 күн бұрын

mayhaps dont go chime, its not meant for learning PVP but overworld ganks and random attacks (like voidwalkers) will help you improve

See that's where your wrong, pve players have their way of escaping death like voiding. If you rely that down bad for killing pve players just go vision shaper like honestly.

Ganks and comp are actually so cheese it isn't even fun anymore, the background footage is a good example of how skewed everything is and how cheesy a build can be.

@-cold-1761

18 күн бұрын

What happened to making fun/creative builds dawg 😭😭 Every build nowadays feels like a contest of who can make the most annoying ass, braindead fucking build, like holy shit man

People when others dont want to only pvp 😠 People when PvE is fun 😠 People when 😠

@scuttlebug8444

18 күн бұрын

very fun stat checking every boss 😁such engaging gameplay

@viniciuspasquali1801

18 күн бұрын

@@scuttlebug8444dude almost got one shot in the background footage playing PvP, yeah I like killing things more than being killed thank you

@t_3kkn

18 күн бұрын

​@viniciuspasquali1801 it's clip, why u crying abt smt old

@trulyenuma

18 күн бұрын

@@viniciuspasquali1801 yea im sure its real invigorating fighting the same npc over and over

@tinpotmst

18 күн бұрын

@@scuttlebug8444 "yeah guys!! 🤖chime is enjoyable! 🤖"

i still genuinely believe that the game peaked in summer 2022. pvp was at its most balanced, overworld and depths ganking was quite alive, enchants were at a perfect sweet spot between rarity and accessibility, legendary weapons were of legendary rarity (while still not being completely ridiculously strong) and there was hope for the future since layer 2 was so anticipated nowadays there is literally no hope for a significant major update, the game is bloated with ridiculous oaths and mantras, overworld is dead, half of the games content is instanced which means literally 0 player interaction (bosses, diluvian, layer 2), legendary weapons are ridiculously common to the point where there is 0 point in going anything but legendary weapons on your builds, which also means that the trading community is completely dead outside of the few permafreshies that go around trading umbral obsidian for spark glands or whatever (not that permafreshies even exist anymore, since it takes like 2 hours to make a new max power character now) not to mention that verse 2 made the skill ceiling sink while also raising the skill floor, meaning that genuine skill is rewarded less and cheesy builds are much more likely to win any fight against any player

the main problem here is the player base there is players who dont want to involve into depths ganking and the depths gankers want to force everyone to get involve into that, is not my problem that you wanted to make me lose all my progress i'll just jump to the void also most of the pves are crybabies, no one is forcing you to fight back you can just vent and run to the void

@Kyuremko

18 күн бұрын

Its not that simple. Pve's dont have a minmaxed 600hp build to get enough time to run, and to add more salt to the wound basically every depths ganker is either a minmaxed cheese user who deletes your hp in one go if you're not careful

@shayde3428

18 күн бұрын

⁠@@Kyuremko600hp isn’t the norm and you would know if you touched pvp (that’s actually rare) Average is 520+(maybe less not every pvp has hp/phys kits to spare). Also if your builds hp get deleted (makes sense when you make a build, exclusively for pve and nothing else) that’s the risk you take. Either that or you don’t know how to defend yourself since you dont have the honed skills to do it. You’re to used to stat check predictable mindless drones, that the second someone with a brain comes along you crap the bed and die

I think the main reason people make builds specifically for pve is because the devs keep making shit that you’d basically NEED to stat check to do, a prime example of this being Diluvian. getting anywhere in diluvian basically requires brick wall and corrupted payback or you’re basically fucked

Especially with new talents like collapsed lung that straight up negate your vent for a couple seconds to essentially make true combos

or they can add a new class of mantra that is something along the lines of aoe to prevent people from just having all aoe mantras and separate it from combat mantras idk

i think for litterally any other aspect of pve then divillian it doesnt require a pve build but for wave 50 its legit impossible on a pvp

permforst and shadow vertex are mantras that are really hard to balance so I feel they need a rework? and not just a stright up gut

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

Agreed

@pokohoko9575

18 күн бұрын

almost all of these “high risk high reward” mantras exist to be used in conjunction with other mechanics to easily confirm them. They were added to be used as cheese. The best way to balance them is to completely rework them (basically a different move entirely) and stop adding them.

Isn’t anyone gonna question how he keeps using nanicuh’s stormeye black flame blue thunder build thumbnail?

Unc back with another peak video

pre nerf assassination footage lol

i got the same first name, outfit and oath as you in the first clip (but the hair is different) 😭

I think they should give dvm pip something to work with like monster armor

so real danvr my glorious king 🗣🗣

The game has gotten too casual and most people have forgotten this is supposed to be a hard game. Killing monsters in one shot should have never been a thing, taking 2 damage from a corrupted bounder should have never been a thing. Ethirons boss fight shouldn't be the trip TO AND FROM his actual fight. Maestro is what the later bosses should be. Not two floating idiots who attack every 2 months.

thats why you should always do a silentheart pve , it will always be good for pve AND pvp

@shayde3428

18 күн бұрын

Smartest pve/pvp player Truely the peak of both species

pve players still tryna recover from the exoskeleton nerf from verse 1

in the very first clip of the bg footage the guy you attacked pretty much just teleported away and then his boyfriend went and did 90% of your hp...deepwoken.

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

Mf that was a whole year ago when assassinations were unbalanced

@shayde3428

18 күн бұрын

@@guadamole391Lol fr, this guy hasn’t touched pvp for a whole year

They should make a way that the more you get hit by mantras or melee swings for a certain time should make that you take less dmg like the amount of hits in a combo the opponent does does less dmg to avoid your hp getting melted to a bar because of one combo. Maybe could balance cheese builds that can literally kill you so fast in an unfair way. I dunno 🤷‍♂

@rr3d942

18 күн бұрын

GREEN???

@NotGreenZ

18 күн бұрын

RED????

@NotGreenZ

18 күн бұрын

(deepwoken is cooked chat)

why you got snap arent you like 20

How do the strong left backshots taste

Bruh, people have been complaining about the game being too easy and now people are mad that its too hard?!?

@aiIeri

18 күн бұрын

nobody be saying its hard its just verse 2 pve players

@The_true_Atlas

17 күн бұрын

the only people who say the game is too easy is people who have been playing since before the nut that later became arcmage was existent of course its easy you've been playing for 2+ years its still hard for people who are new to the game

I very much disagree with “It’s PVE players fault for losing to a PVP dedicated build.” It’s there fault that there is inf combos and Stun lock combos exist??? Saying that people shouldn’t do PVE builds is crazy because the point of deepwoken is to make your OWN build for whatever purpose you WANT to do. So telling people that they have to do something they don’t want to do in a game where your told you can do whatever you want is stupid. That take is literally “Don’t have fun.”

@DogGaming506

18 күн бұрын

infinite and stunlock combos dont exist this isnt aba

@onioncartel

18 күн бұрын

Found the perma freshie

@e49eee7

18 күн бұрын

hes not saying dont make pve builds, hes saying dont cry if a pvp build kills you. the risk of running a pve build is youre weaker in pvp, and vice versa

@Sc5ch

18 күн бұрын

You're encouraged to try different builds, yes. But who said they'll be good? You just made that up.

@Taco2250

18 күн бұрын

@@DogGaming506 someone's never been hit with a gale/ice dawnwalker combo

should make a build pvp to do dillu if i get gank on a pve i shouldn't complain about how unfair the build is

i just feel like theres no problem lol, let people play what they wanna play, if u force them to play what they are avoiding to play that will only make them drop the game

dan we get it bro u dont have to use the same exact clip of old assassinations 10x 😭

danvr wahh wahh conquest isnt out yet "get over it" 😹😹

Ngl agas idea was good if they make pve builds have advantage on pve But only a small one while making pve a bit easier for pvp players

That’s a horrible take. There a reason pve builds exist. Look at how hard hell mode is and dilivuian. Ever since they nerfed and changed some pve changes regular builds can no longer compete with that shit. I think ever since the dvm stat change people just started making dedicated pve builds and 100% when mantra vs monster change every build either become pve or pvp there was no longer any in between. Nerfing pve builds will just make life harder on pve and pvp in some ways

@vanillajellyfish

18 күн бұрын

The difficulty in hellmode and diluvian comes artificially from the hordes that can extremely easy mow you down, especially if you don't have brick wall and high monster damage and monster armor. It isn't the sort ot difficulty people ask for since they'd rather have a new mob or boss, but i feel like something like a new mob still results in a similar problem for a different reason (Case in point: mudskipper broodlord on release before it was nerfed). And there probably would be less complaints about PvE builds being prime ganking targets if there was less of an incentive to gank in the depths **OR** more of an incentive to gank where the dead body loot, which a PvE player is probably gonna have a lot of stuff in vs a PvP player, isn't the only reward besides a flex score.

@rr3d942

18 күн бұрын

Skill issue lmaooo, back in my days we were beating hell mode with crescent cleaver storm enchant builds 👴

@Sc5ch

18 күн бұрын

"Hard". Any good pve build can solo both. What's this exaggerated difficulty? If you were gonna say, "that's not that big a deal." They were meant to be done with like 5 people lol. So now you've proved how pve is too easy yourself. Also the entire point of nerfing pve IS to bring everything to around the same level. "Nerfing pve will make things harder". 1. You literally proved pve is easy (You can solo something meant to be done by 5 people LOL) 2. The game literally says it's supposed to be hard in the description (stop using pve being harder as an actual point, especially when it's braindead easy rn) 3. pvp builds get nerfed every week. ("Oh no, my op pve build that hasn't been touched in a year is finally getting nerfed!") "Oh no, my 60s Ethiron run is now 2 minutes!" Oh, the horror!

@nagatorotard1648

18 күн бұрын

@@Sc5chlike he said it’s difficult to solo dilluvian

@Sc5ch

18 күн бұрын

@@nagatorotard1648 It's difficult cuz your build is subpar. Just get a good pve build. Pve players love to act like skill is relevant when it's even less relevant than pvp. In pvp, you actually have to block, parry, dodge. In pve, 99% of the time you can just run through your keyboard while spamming M1 and they die while you get health back, rinse and repeat. A major reason players do pve is BECAUSE they're bad.

They make it seem like pve builds don't do the most DMG in the game

bro got snapchat notifs in the bg 😭😭

Same thing for pve😭😭 what they done to my evanspear silentheart

He had to have smashed his monitor in the first clip. Shi looked tragic

This has truly been a danvr1

As someone who mains pve because I suck complete dick at pvp, pve is honesty, brainless, as hell, they should at least make it to where it isn't just m1 and maybe some mantras if that's your build

@hxrprd

18 күн бұрын

bru after the gut attunement is literally meta now??

the damage in the first clip

What they should do is remove ways to make pve builds entirely and make it so if you wanna just fight bosses you can put alot into willpower and fortitude for alot of health and sanity but your downside is that you either do less damage to players or youre slower, same applies to people who wanna pvp vice versa so when theres downsides people will actually start going hybrid builds not just pvp or pve (also this helps alot with build diversity so people won't just copy n paste other builds cause everything would have some sort of downside)

@shayde3428

18 күн бұрын

No, I like aga’s idea to revamp pve. He basically said to make pve approachable for all builds, so the need for dedicating a single build to pve leaving flaws for pvp in exchange null. Also making boss combat like souls games such as elden ring and dark souls, you know how 1 of maestro’s moves is those 3 wind slashes (with the staggering swing anims and the unblockable last swing) More stuff like that for boss fights for actually engaging combat and no braindead stat checking.

Gotta say, I'd play pvp more if pvp wasn't me getting beaten to death in 8 hits by a combo I can't even begin to react to

man you did NOT cook with this video...

I have a build that soloed wave 50 diluv and got top 250 chime (2 weeks after reset)

dan this is the first time where I have to disagree with your stance pvp builds are so vast and in its entirety most of the weeklys dont gut any particular build unless they are cheese or what not, but the last update literally took 50% of possible builds and nerfed them now I know its not a crazy thing but you have to take into account that there has never been an update that has gutted 50% of pvp builds since they are so vast. And on a silent heart build for example the only thing you can run is an m1 build and the build that I had for diluvian faired very well in pvp because it had a lot of hp. Now we are to the point that people who do not actually experience the higher levels of pve like yourself are coming in and making opinions about a side of the game where you are not present. Especially people like agamatsu who are making stupid suggestions to the game to try to balance it out for pvp builds which shouldn't exist there should be a divide pvp & pve and you should have a dedicated pve build to make your pvp builds better, whether that be have sinners ashes, moonseyes, idols, etc pve builds are a necessary thing in the game and I want to again reiterate that in my opinion if you have not solo'ed diluvian or done this high level end game mechanics you should not voice your opinion because diluvian was already a hard feat now with these nerfs it makes it even more challenging. thank you dan I have always love and respected your content and have a nice day

@Dg_leitee

18 күн бұрын

I didn't order an yappucino

@hxrprd

18 күн бұрын

@@Dg_leitee then dont comment 😹the word yap is so corny now hop off youtube shorts 😹😹😹😹

@theamazinggarbage3209

18 күн бұрын

@@Dg_leitee👶

@Dg_leitee

18 күн бұрын

@@hxrprd 2/10 rage bait you can't be playing deepwoken and then act mature

yo i was the gale heavy who said "bro isnt dan vr" in chime. i didnt think u were lol but u were.

criminaly early shush

its gonna be seperate games pve and pvp nerfing the dmg is not going to change it since pve build have room for track star mantras and still 1 cycle chaser so u wont be ganked anyways and most of the player base dont do pvp chime most are just casuals doing pve so idk what ur talking about most casual ppl dont even care about pvp saying that bieng a pvp player the only reason most ppl seem to like pvp is bc the vocal ppl in this community are most pvp sweats bc the casuals dont usualy even care about the pvp side of things just the pve wich is why nerfing pve is hard bc it effects majority of players wich will lower player count wich is money unlike in the pvp scenario that are 10% or less of the player base

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

1: God I had an aneurysm reading this 2: that's exactly WHY the gap between pve and pvp should be closed, casuals don't fully experience the game and sit doing the same slop and come to dislike the game because they're too scared to venture into pvp. If they quit, just makes the games casual standard higher, making the game more fun

i would agree with ur take but with the way the game is now, you can't really say someone making a build to specifically do pve content that the DEVS added into their OWN game is their fault because if we be realistic, no pvp build can do endgame pve content such as dilluevian and vice versa. the only way it would make sense is if u make the pve aspect of deepwoken just a means to level like anime bandit beater and make all pve dmg scale accordingly on all builds and make mobs easier to deal with.

@khare8587

18 күн бұрын

but not everyone likes pvp in this game which is valid. some ppl just enjoy the pve and lore aspect and shouldnt be punished for it

hallowtide gank footage ???

yeah i agree i literally dont ever step foot in the pvp areas like chime and stuff but "nerfing" evanspear and nerfing dvm really arent that big of a deal people literally beat the hardest dungeon in the game solo within 2 minutes

@GodspokenYT

18 күн бұрын

People were literally complaining about pve being easy now they complain when they start making it hard 😂 community will never be satisfied

@sucadig

18 күн бұрын

@@GodspokenYT put a pink dlldo up me bum and u got me satifiest there mate

@EpaYaAlgoDoGenero

18 күн бұрын

@@GodspokenYT nerfing pve doesn't make it harder, it makes it slower, which is nothing more than annoying

@nelisbro6899

18 күн бұрын

only a problem cause it's just slower to do pve now

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

​@@EpaYaAlgoDoGenerothat's why they need to nerf it more, to make it hard

I love losing 4 bars from one assassination combo only to lose the last 20% in one m1 from a silentheart to wipe my minmaxed build that took hours in under 10 seconds

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

That's not even possible no more

@pokohoko9575

18 күн бұрын

I love talking out of my ass

@NRVNQSRR

18 күн бұрын

@@guadamole391 PVE players don't indulge in PVP, so they think this footage is still modern. Give them a break.

see this is why i LOVE my weapon master build, 100 heavy for fighting bosses and shit but also 100 Medium so I can fight people and have fun in ganks by using different weaponry and I have like two playstyles on one build (and ofc Crazy slots for my sword to do the same damage as a pale morning)

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

Sounds good but I doubt it's gonna be that good😭 zuukles silentheart pves are great for ganks and pve, you don't need to waste 100 points like that

@Taco2250

18 күн бұрын

@@guadamole391 meh it's fun for me and I win most fights with it,

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

@@Taco2250 fair enough

i 5 barred your stormseye ironsing build in chime

if it was just nerfing a mantra or a weapon too strong in pvp that also works in pve sure but pve players should get special treatment bcs the mobs wont stop playing the game if they get one shot by the most bs combo, players are gonna do that so pvp has to be looked at much closer.

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

If your pve gets one shot by mobs is it really a good pve even worth keeping? Also, your point makes no sense. Pve is way too easy, making it hard adds challenge to the game and also allows pvp players to interact with pve more proactively. Pve players js scared for no reason

Bros build got nerfed this friday and now hes salty

update was alright ig

3:42 nah I'm quitting if they make it so you can't do domain expansions 😭

@shayde3428

18 күн бұрын

Good we need less of you in the game

0:40 bro got cooked😔

I genuinely wonder, what do pve players even pve for? Doesn’t everyone just make pve builds to get gear/weapons for pvp builds or is that just me?

bro saw aga didnt talk about it so he had to make a video on it

Dan your the goat bro

bro died at the end

@Koogis_

18 күн бұрын

“bro-“ and then he just says what we all saw with no pun

1:24 dans gettings snaps 😍😍

tbh i dont want weekly uptades monthly updates with more content and changes woud be better for me

@DestroyermanIII229

18 күн бұрын

or bi-weekly (every 2 weeks)

dude is complaining about people doing more pve than pvp while being absolutely cooked in the background

In terms of PvE at least, one reason why it's been alot less likely to get nerfed over weeklies than PvP stuff is because, PvPers can complain about things being strong. PvE on the other hand, is always directly in the Players benefit when it's stronger, so nobody is gonna complain "oh I kill these mobs too fast" because that's exactly what almost everyone who's ever PvE'd wants out of a PvE build. So yeah it sucks that PvP gets smote every other weekly, but there's only so many aspects of PvE that exist to be nerfed in the first place compared to the many talent interacts that make fighting another player that much more difficult, PvE is become wall, deal a billion damage, profit. And furthermore, no one does big ganks anymore because if you don't wanna get mobbed when you PvP you go to the shitshow that is chime, and ganking people for fun means nothing because they run, log, or just are the PvE builds that can't truly fight back so it's like kicking a baby around, just for them to drop 40 billion different deep gems when they die, which is just monopoly money.

bro because pve kits are very hard to get

let's talk about the issue regarding amount of mantras you can possibly get from a whisper poll .

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

There's no issue, jus use the mystic and your aces dude

every bad thing in the pvp is solely under the cause of yayafino

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

mald but ok (he is pretty bad tho)

Why did bro steal a NaniCuh thumbnail?

Strength and for-

you said it in such an entitled way the whole pve pvp rant changes

@vanillajellyfish

18 күн бұрын

Both sides of the spectrum are entitled in their own ways

Deepwoken players when the devs balance around the majority of the community and not the day 1 players with 2k hours.

That clip is familiar

Wow, this comment section is a mess...

2:50 What if the guy was minding their own business and then you killed them for no reason at all which happens a lot

@aguynotreachthetruth944

18 күн бұрын

I dont think theres rule saying you cant kill people you want

@tinpotmst

18 күн бұрын

@@aguynotreachthetruth944 ur a douchebag if you do though unless ur voidwalking

@EpicTheUnknownOne

18 күн бұрын

@@aguynotreachthetruth944 Yea there ain't but how would you feel getting wiped for no reason at all outside of I just felt like it

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

​@@EpicTheUnknownOneerm, read the game description?

@EpicTheUnknownOne

18 күн бұрын

@@guadamole391 Where the game does it say getting jumpped by 3 max levels for no reason is part of the game it doesn't tell you the ways you get wiped can be bugs being jumped by who knows how many players lag or just straight-up death by void

Pve players really think their version of combat should be: "i have insane amounts of damage and health, all i need to do is hold m1 and circle around the monsters" Pve is so easy right now because even a pvp build with no dvm can just fight nearly any moster without pressing f once (excluding bosses)

@thats_shady

18 күн бұрын

Heck they should make it so things like sharko swipes cancel your swings and hardstun you, forcing you to actually parry, wich would add neverbefore seen "gameplay" to pve. Couse at this point its the same as playing an rng "game", you're not doing anything but look at a screen and holding down a button

bro chill your naming all the mantras on my godly gravity bell build

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

ik fs bro can't parry nun

did he just copy nanis thumbnail

the pve change should be for verse 3

@guadamole391

18 күн бұрын

Better sooner than later imo

BRING BACK DMG SCALING FOR DEEPWOKEN COMBAT! THIS GAME IS DEVIL MAY CRY ITS A INTRIGUING FANTASTY ROUGE LIKE!!!!

this is why we should play rogue lineage instead

3:08 factual

shut up dan im gonna kiss you

0:44 wth is that dmg lol

@wvcky

18 күн бұрын

Old assasinations lmao

Im gonna be HEEEEELLLA real, i dont know bout yall but im still 3 tapping monsters LOL