Arch actually did give a reason for why you can’t use graceful flame, that also explains why the portable lantern doesn’t exist yet. He said that it’s because the light from the flame and/or the lantern will call the 8 snowman’s, which would instantly eat your light hook and wipe you.

@fedydespooky7025

Ай бұрын

tf is the 8 snowman’s ima a day one and don’t know

@ImpatientPlatypus

Ай бұрын

@@fedydespooky7025bros bowl is cooked

@mrbrownlol3637

Ай бұрын

Darn those 8 snowmans!!

@fedydespooky7025

Ай бұрын

@@mrbrownlol3637 bruh yall trollin💀

@luckylaniang5574

Ай бұрын

​@fedydespooky7025 basically in his playthrougj of blox fruits he got to the winter island or Smith and the quest said "kill 8 snowmans" and proceeded to shit on it

eclipse officially has a deepwoken addiction

@catmist4651

Ай бұрын

ong

@codenameloser8488

Ай бұрын

The deep is calling… it’s calling… I can’t stop playing… the deep… the deep… the deep! Must play Deepwoken… must gank freshies! Must play chime of conflict!

@user89730

Ай бұрын

Skibidi rizzler mogged

@cheesywithers

Ай бұрын

@@codenameloser8488 I read this in ikit claw's voice and i have no regrets

Cant wait for someone to ignore "I dont mean that layer 2 is bad", shit in comments, end up in DDOS and continue complaining 😔🙏

@seek3150

Ай бұрын

lol deadass though

@xdrakon8196

Ай бұрын

It’s a canon Eclipse event. It happens in every video. If you break the canon, it all falls apart

@niten1ryu

Ай бұрын

layer 2 is lowkey...bad though...

@RealZish

Ай бұрын

this aged poorly lmao

Consider doing oaths as stories. Some oaths obtainment have crazy lore and adventure. Please try getting them

@newyearlunardeluxe

Ай бұрын

eclipse please notice this person 🙏🙏

@A_HampterV2

Ай бұрын

This is actually a good idea for all oaths expect oathless,jetstriker and dawnwalker cuz we seen that already.

@Bobgamin

Ай бұрын

Silentheart bout be go crazy

@Yes-xj6if

Ай бұрын

I love the crazy adventure of “find me 5 void feathers” or the incredibly immersive “kill 5 guys with other oaths Ty” So peak…

@bluechezzwithsocks9117

Ай бұрын

@@Yes-xj6ifnotice the word some

You basically hit ever complaint I had about layer 2 on the head. Too bad the devs are too busy working on league of legends. Hopefully layer 3 will be more of what people want when it comes out in 3 years.

@rr3d942

Ай бұрын

League of legends update better be packed or ima be mad 😡😡😡

@trucoteca1924

Ай бұрын

Cant believe archmage got hired by riot games

@ultimateking88

Ай бұрын

@@trucoteca1924wait fr?

@comradexdface

Ай бұрын

I was so disappointed when they said conquest is gonna you making your current build again. Half the fun of league is the build crafting. I'm playing the casual freshie version instead, ranked is cheeks.

@ExaltedNinja.

Ай бұрын

@@ultimateking88 no

There's no way bro went from yba, through reviewing roblox games, to getting addicted to deepwoken while the game is dry asf. It's really fun watching how your gameplay improved from your deepwoken review, to actually doing l2. edit: Alright y'all are right, eclipse is probably at a point where the game still seems exciting to him, unlike many people. My main problem with the game is that the balancing team seems to be non-existent, and flamecharm is heavily prioritized by the devs for some reason

@oggaraggairoaawfauhaiu31_UN

Ай бұрын

deepwoken ain't even dry but aight

@minepikaczu2

Ай бұрын

@@oggaraggairoaawfauhaiu31_UN when u have like 3000 hours then it is, im just so thirsty for conquest along with the overworld addons to it

@croccoalex6957

Ай бұрын

deepwoken isnt dry its just we have done everything

@elsebonio4702

Ай бұрын

To be completely fair, the game is only dry for us long time players because we've played it for so long

@jeffboy4231

Ай бұрын

deepwoken is not dry at all. but obviously the lake will be empty if you play/drink for 2000 hours. every single game in existence would have that problem dude

There's a reason for the Light Hook. Layer 2 was Deepwoken's first MAJOR content addition, a whole new dungeon with new monsters and 2 incredible boss fights, the update was hyped and awaited for a LOT. So to make it so that everyone could play this long awaited layer 2 they added the Light Hook in the purpose of letting everyone including less skilled players play the dungeon without risking anything, but gave it a timer and removed it during the Ethiron fight to make things still somewhat risky if you go too deep into it.

@santiagoegas7715

Ай бұрын

did you watched the video before typing this?

@progaming-kk4oj

Ай бұрын

You didn't even watch his vid before typing that did you

@caa_la

Ай бұрын

this has the possibility of getting on DDoS

@TotallyEvervin

Ай бұрын

good point dont mind these weirdos when layer 2 released it reworked a TON of game mechanics and added so many different mobs and people had been perfecting builds for a long time that if they lost cuz of some bullshit from the game would be not so fun

@roy-cm4wo

Ай бұрын

​@@TotallyEvervin Did you even watch the video either 😀

Eclipse has now fell into the trap of deepwoken

@ripnoob26252

Ай бұрын

he stuck in the depths

@user-lp7xo6pr9r

Ай бұрын

The Deep calls him.

eclipse is evolving he says glazing now

@flop69419

Ай бұрын

the deep got into him, now he's learning

@johannawilliams1039

Ай бұрын

Your (ECLIPSE) is evolving!!!! Your (ECLIPSE) has evolved into (GRIFFITH!!1!!!)

@uberrex8073

Ай бұрын

​@@johannawilliams1039wait- hold on, how do i undo?!? B button, B BUTTON!!!!!

@Greyman-Gaming

Ай бұрын

@johannawilliams1039 Shit! Go back go back go back!

@Sky_darts

Ай бұрын

@@johannawilliams1039OH HELL NAW

11:32 Lorewise, there is a diver in floor 1 that asks you to save her by completing the entirety of layer 2. However, she is being controlled and that trap there is meant to kill you for attempting to save her.

@boptodatop

Ай бұрын

She's not being controlled that's just straight up Ethiron lying to you.

@historicflame972

Ай бұрын

WHAT DO YOU MEAN LOREWISE, YOU ENCOUTER IT IN THE ACTUAL GAME, IT'S IN THE GAMEPLAY, THERE'S NO DIVIDE, IT'S RIGHT THERE, IT'S NOT LOCKED TO SOME 5 DOLLAR BOOK BOUGHT FROM WISH

@dakotatrue12

Ай бұрын

@@historicflame972what??

@thebloodynine5665

Ай бұрын

​@@historicflame972dude are you on crack cocaine

@kairo_9512

Ай бұрын

@@historicflame972 Most sane and calm Deepwoken player

Layer 2 not only is it just something i speedrun without thinking about it, it's also losing its value more and more. It used to be the best way to get loot, but now that the Diluvian mechanism exists, there really isn't a point in doing floor 2 apart from getting dawnwalker/a couple dye packets. As for floor 1, chaser is now pretty much useless, and there really isn't a need to get the deepshore fossil now that Maestro can just drop any enchant stone you could possibly want, as well as more legendary weapons than even Ethiron. Also eclipse I wanted to ask you: have you ever worked on non jojo games before ? you make really good suggestions and remarks all the time and i was wondering if it comes from experience

@EclipseGameplays

Ай бұрын

I have never worked directly in game design, but that's extremely high praise for an industry noobie like myself lmao, thank you

@Lunarinzo

Ай бұрын

@@EclipseGameplaysOn the idea of special layer 2 armor, instead of just getting one either op talent for your build or one that is shit, you should get no talent, but in return you get like 2x the durability of a master armor and way more armor against stuff in general (Don’t dunk on me I’ve gotten to 19 as my highest power and some random guy was so sorry for m1ing me once he basically gave me everything for black diver)

@50gritsandpaper1

Ай бұрын

@@Lunarinzo thats pretty much just black diver armor

@Lunarinzo

Ай бұрын

@@50gritsandpaper1 Fair but black diver should have a talent where your willpower scaling is 2x more, so say you have 40 willpower, you’ll have the sanity of 80 willpower, 100 would equal 200 (idk if this should work on lft)

@EldritchEntityWithASmartphone

Ай бұрын

I’ve seen people talk to devs about the Maestro & Diluvian loot problem. Hopefully Maestro gets the rates on enchant stones dropped and cbow & crypt no longer drop.

No way the just added portable lamps in layer 2 right after this video 💀

5:38 You can actually! There's a piece of equipment in game called the Winter Corps Parka, pretty common drop from Layer 2 chests. It gives you a talent that works similarly to Survivalist, where the parasites take longer to have an effect on you. I get your point though, it doesn't completely/heavily negate the parasites, but it is something you can obtain directly.

@suopd

Ай бұрын

the problem is that item gives a very poor amount of health so you kind of brush by one problem and create another since you're going to be more squishy against high dmg mobs

@thehexofficial

Ай бұрын

@@suopd true, you can always switch it out while you're not in combat though. I think it's a fair compromise for 10 - 20HP

@Reeeas

Ай бұрын

@@thehexofficial you can't switch equipment in layer 2

@thehexofficial

Ай бұрын

@@Reeeas You can? I think you're getting confused with not being able to equip things you've found until you exit the dungeon

@smellydelinquent

Ай бұрын

yeah but what kinda sucks is that you can also get it from crypt of unbroken, which proves his point about no special layer 2 exclusive loot

The main problem with layer 2 is how badly Deepwoken's permadeath mechanic interacts with it This might be a controversial take but, personally, I feel like layer 2 would be a hundred times over better if light hook was kept permanently throughout the exploration parts of floor 1 and 2, but removed upon reaching bosses, because: 1. The main risk of wiping (atleast as a new player) comes from bosses anyways, the fact that the travelling sections of floor 2 can also get you wiped leads you to just use the quickest and safest route to the boss 2. Layer 2 actively discourages exploring, floor 2 is the biggest offender of this even though floor 2 has the most exploration to offer The literal start of floor 2 has a trap npc that when talked with spawns 3 lancers, the place is filled with trap rooms with enemies that are way too hardcore for people who've gone there for the first time, and on top of that there's also a timer that basically forces you to hurry up instead of explore the place Imagine you're playing layer 2 with a friend of yours who's new to Deepwoken, what would you prefer: Option A. Have only the risk of wiping at bosses (which is the main part that causes wiping anyway) but be able to mess around and explore all the trap rooms/npcs/easter eggs throughout layer 2 without a worry and ACTUALLY fight enemies to learn their attack pattern and secure loot next time youre actually ready to tackle on the boss(keep in mind this hypothetical idea would work just like floor 1, loot isnt kept until you beat the boss) Option B. Know that layer 2 will basically insta wipe you if you dont take the shortest route, so just go through the same boring motion telling your friend to just follow your lead without questioning else his character will get wiped (which is currently how layer 2 is played) ALSO PLEASE PLAY RANDOMLY GENERATED DROIDS 🦆

@funnehdennis

Ай бұрын

72 free attempts each day just to do layer 2 without wiping (yes you have to speedrun each floor for maximum rewards with light hook) Edit: 31 runs. Sheesh.

@t3qnix110

Ай бұрын

To be fair, I think Deepwoken, in general, sacrifices a lot just for the permadeath mechanic to work in an MMO. I'm not saying they should get rid of it entirely or anything, although I have my own hot take on that. There are just a lot of things Deepwoken either can’t do or requires a significant amount of balancing and tweaking to work that other games just don’t have to deal with. Like you can’t make bosses too difficult because you can’t do trial and error in a game where if you mess up you have to grind again for potentially hours just for one more chance to win, this ain’t Elden Ring. Progression must also be very quick to make it easier to start over from wiping and keep players away from mental exhaustion. This structure also limits exploration to how much it affects progression. If it doesn’t make progression faster, then people aren’t going to explore it, especially when their lives are at risk. As a result, people become more willing to forgo potentially fantastic experiences if it makes their progression easier. I could go on, but you’ve hit many of them on the head already. The more I think about it, the more I feel that Deepwoken is a pretty challenging game to develop for; there’s always a fine line you have to tread, or else you break the entire game, and each new addition has to be very methodical and meticulous in its approach just to work, not even be good, just to work.

@cowdude8948

Ай бұрын

Randomly generated droids is mid

@jeffboy4231

Ай бұрын

Tbh I'm fine with the permadeath lol, I think they did some great things with it, but imo a big problem for my friends (and a bit for me) is the pvp, while my main gripe is just voidwalker my friends would love a pve version of deepwoken and tbh I would kinda too​@@t3qnix110

@sano_ontop

Ай бұрын

I ain’t reading allat

The ignition union did make a portable lamp of sorts but only in lore, as the railblade is said to "Generate a warding heat that protects the wearer against the insidious chill of the Eternal Gale.", i still do hope one day we get stuff that acts as counters to the parasitic snow though

@historicflame972

Ай бұрын

Captain Rex

another deep vidoe! thanks eclipse.

I'd like to mention that with the layer 2 instakills, they actually did add a new one in which you must go to a specific spot at a cave near the town in floor 1 (which you can easily fall off into the deathpit below at) and go through doors that dont open unless you went down with no light hook, and you are then burnt to death and wiped if you do not meet multiple requirements when talking to an NPC to obtain a new weapon

last friday they added a new weapon, its obtainment coming from an npc in layer 2. talking to this npc will wipe you if you do not meet the requirements. the requirements are not mentioned or hinted at

@EclipseGameplays

Ай бұрын

They never learn LMAO

@IrisBread

Ай бұрын

Like, WHO THINKS OF THIS SHIT?

@navuwatr

Ай бұрын

its supposed to be secret bro. obviously there wont be hints. was there hints about the deep angels cave? no.

@EclipseGameplays

Ай бұрын

@@navuwatr it's not a secret dumbass, Google exists

@FIREBALLMK19

Ай бұрын

@@navuwatr it would be a mid secret but the fact you get wiped for requirements you dont know unless you google it makes it total dog shit dude

love the video eclipse, this laid back content were u criticise games from a game design stand point has really made me change the perspective from which i programme games and add new features

there are reasons to lighthook, eclipse (do not include me in DDOS) 1. if it would be risky then nobody would even do l2 2. back in the day, when verse 2 came out l2 came out too, and that was the most anticipated update in deepwoken, that overhauled everything. if it were to be this difficult, while nobody even KNEW how to beat it, who would even bother?? dw would js lose its players 3. some people dont play the game for pure fun, some prefer grinding for loot. LH ensures safety while that is being done. 4. sometimes, going to L2 isnt necessarily to beat chaser, its for getting some minor talents, and if you had to waste that much time everytime you even went down to L2, then it'll get annoying for the players. i tried

@NylonEpoxy

Ай бұрын

Deepwoken is a difficult game with permanent character loss, losing characters is a part of the game that should be expected.

@funnehdennis

Ай бұрын

can we just like this so that dude can get on DDOS and the comment above me is shown

@robbedbored1179

Ай бұрын

@@NylonEpoxy Of course. But this is a whole level of difficulty. L2 is incredibly risky, and often buggy. A lag spike? Instant wipe. I know same goes for depths, but It’s not nearly guaranteed for you to wipe during it Unlike Layer 2. Also? Guess what? Unlike depths deaths that are not your fault, deaths in L2 are mostly non-restorable. Going hookless l2 everytime is torture, and would be the most boring thing ever for some, and an instant wipe to others. No one wins here. Making layer 2 THIS hard will make it unplayable to half the people. No one will even try and play it, unless you’re good at the game. I wont even bother bringing up the difficulty spike from depths mobs, where you safely log if you see anything bad (or run from it) and L2.

@thereallegitimatemontblanc

Ай бұрын

You saying to not include you on DDOS will probably be the very thing that gets you on DDOS...

@thebloodynine5665

Ай бұрын

He brings up some pretty fair points so I don't think that he necessarily belongs in an entire separate video that's borderline calling him retarded 😭

never played deepwoken but plan to and these videos are making me want it more

@Thunderfury0900

Ай бұрын

you should!, its one of the only really really good games on roblox

@ArkhamVEVO

Ай бұрын

dont

@smellslikebees8179

Ай бұрын

Don't play this atrocious dogshit

@expomkr7506

Ай бұрын

Go for it

@qiqi9856

Ай бұрын

just a heads up the beginner stage is a nightmare

Eclipse should become a tester tbh, like i really love the blacksmith idea and the portable lantern, like parasites arent even a problem at this point you will use the respite lantern anyways, keep it up eclipse gl with deep

@justtyler1092

23 күн бұрын

he should NOT bro he yaps about light hook being bad yet its good it makes sense

@brook2988

23 күн бұрын

@@justtyler1092 In fact, the only thing I don't agree with here was the light hook, but it really has a lot of very nice ideas

you made a lot of interesting points hope the devs see some of these and steer it in the right direction for the game

I really like the idea of firfire being a rest stop town. In many roguelike dungeon crawlers, this kind of feature exists at some point whether it be a shop or special event to reforge items, etc. Layer 2 is a dungeon-designed map. Making firfire have some cool unique npcs or unique features from the overworld would be great.

Hard agree on not being usable in combat, however I have to disagree with manually using it in terms of being flung off the map. There are many instances where bugs, ping, etc can lead to going off the map. Would suck to wipe to that, wouldn't feel "oh thats my fault i wiped" it would be "wow thats like 4 hours of my life grinding this build wasted." Just make it so if you die in combat in L2 the Light Hook wont save you, but it saves you from parasites and falling off the map. This is also better for players who are first going into Layer 2, who wouldn't know about parasites and falling off the map is inconsistent sometimes where there is and isnt floor. Meanwhile any player going into Layer 2 would understand dying to a Bonekeeper and any other mob, is, well, dying.

@jeffboy4231

Ай бұрын

not even 4 hours, for most normal people a build could take days to make lol

@boptodatop

Ай бұрын

Just make it same rules as falling into Layer 2. Above half hp you live below you die.

@ThebestmanIVGaming

Ай бұрын

What happens if a bounder flings you off the edge?

@dominicballinger6536

Ай бұрын

But the Bonekeeper isn't fightable anywhere else except for the 20+ drown depths trial. If only for the exclusive enemies that would make you wipe every damn time you die because you haven't had a chance to learn them, Lighthook would become exponentially less useful and making layer 2 much more annoying to get into

@guest-eg3zx

Ай бұрын

​@@dominicballinger6536 probably the only solution is to make it lighthook will work as usual before u beat chaser and reported to Claris for the first time, and then the light hook will be weaken so it doesnt work in combat or some changes. they could probably rework how light hook work lorewise

Honestly I just love the direction your content is going, a few years ago when I first started watching you it was only for the specific games you played at the time, I felt like the commentary you had on them was refreshing and taking a more critical approach was so nice to see. But even after all those years and finally coming back I feel like I can just watch your stuff for you, you’re very funny and that more critical analytical side aids in that as well. It’s funny laughing at how horrible some things are and how you actually try and help them become better, I hope you can continue to do what you do.

6:22 layer 2 eternal gale is also stuck in the cycle from new krsya and there's a piece of clothing to do that also its not that risky to do layer 2 without a hook (as long as you can beat chaser or only came for the exp) you can skip firfire carvens entrace after getting the hook

So glad to see you got into deepwoken on the brink of another huge update nearing, I hope with your input you make deepwoken more of a balance and greater experince.

I think it'd be cool if you could use the light hook and wouldn't run out until layer 2, but at the cost of nerfing your drops. This would be cool for newer players who might want to just have a fun replayable option in an otherwise punishing game, that they could attempt layer 1 at lower levels without as much penalty.

good points, though I do want to suggest the idea of (since there are peaceful beings in new kyrsa), maybe an underground society like the divers (hell could be ignition union) who have found a way to negate the time dilation, and have set up shop in the railways possibly. kinda like your firfire rework idea, but the place would serve to give a place to stay, craft armor and maybe do something with medallions, such as purchasing certain kyrsgarde armor blue prints n stuff. I think this is a good idea, though obviously flawed, it’d be a neat way to add more lore to floor 2 along with making it a bit more involved ( maybe the time dilation timer could be a non factor while inside or something). tldr: small refugee town inside of new kyrsa with sane npcs. great video as always, keep these up, they’re really entertaining to watch.

Even if I haven't watched the video, Eclipse is really reaching a peak right now!

Completely agree with the ignition's drill, some of my friends that play the game don't have the confidence to even try chaser without a full squad. Leading to them not getting ANYTHING until they have backup, which can take WEEKS.

Just found out you can craft the lantern in layer 2. Looks like the devs found your video! I haven't seen anyone else talking about it, but it is very very cool that it's in the game you.

This guy got vow of mastery on the whole dev team he made them add layer 2 items 4 days after the video 😭😭😭😭

layer 2 is flashy but is lacking a lot of things. Like a golden bowl without anything inside of it.

8:22 I think this puzzle is intended for multiple people. Outside the library, there’s a mural that will light up when you use the obelisks. One person recons to the person in the maze how many times to press the obelisk, and you get through. Needless to say, this has its flaws. Especially us solo gamers without friends who live on playing video games for a living/don’t have as much time as us. We don’t have someone to tell us the code while we are in the library, thus are left with either taking too long and getting teleported back with a progress wipe, or make friends with the wiki.

@Ben_E2

Ай бұрын

and what if someone doesn’t have vc?

@hoovy_thepooter8489

Ай бұрын

@@Ben_E2 your messages are broadcast to everyone in dungeons

@asiangamerchairs

Ай бұрын

@@hoovy_thepooter8489That was only from a way more recent update, if you didn’t have a voice chat you were screwed and even then no one would really understand how that library in the map would work anyway

chaser drops a crown exclusive to him but its so rare that most people never see it

@DestroyermanIII229

Ай бұрын

mfw when i get the bloodforged crown AND the kamas in the same chaser:

There is also a fourth trap in layer 2, in New Kyrsa you can enter in a building that once you get in, will lock most (except one) of its doors and spawn a lot of kyrs mobs so you can have so much fun

16:40 I completely agree with this. I think a good change for this would be that using the deepdrill allows you to keep at the VERY LEAST 5 items (with the ignition union taking the rest since they are a generally "greedy" group). This would mean there would be an option for newer players to get valuable loot without having to confront a boss that will most likely wipe them, but there is still an incentive to kill chaser to obtain more. This would further mean that floor 1 doesn't become this "free loot zone" for experienced players who would be able to get to most chest spots without ever losing their light hook.

about the parasite part, ive talked about the arc suit protecting against the parasites, as its a main point of the arc suit in lore as the flame req is too keep you warm in layer 2.

6:15, they have worked on a "portable" lamp thing, or whatever it's called, the railblade. while it doesn't have a passive like warding off the parasites, it says in it's lore that it has the ability to do so. just thought it might be a cool thing to add

I love your videos eclipse! keep making great content and keep going with these deepwoken videos!

No way , eclipse is my god, his ideas already in the game, with the first weekly from the video upload, pls make more videos on deepwoken with suggestions to improve my davourite game. With best wishes, avarage deepwoken player

I'm glazing this so hard. This is actually so peak. Eclipse cooked hard throughout the whole video Layer 2 has actually become such a mindless speedrun that the playerbase has gotten used to, mostly subconsciously, this video was such a good reminder of the problems everyone feels. Agamatsu also reacted to your vid on stream, I'd just like to bring up an idea he came up. Essentially the suggestion is to give lighthook a couple seconds to charge before it pulls you up. This way if a player's is low percent hp in a fight, they'd still be stressing as the lighthook is winding up. Maybe this would only apply in combat ctag, so players unfairly knocked by the gale into the void can still safely exit.

I really like everything you said and wished that’s what actually occurred. My first time in layer 2 I was too scared because I didn’t want to die and get wiped, from there forth I learned about the light hook and began just having fun and trying to beat chaser. I wish it was more on the side of explore and learn like east luminant and the other seas, because that’s where I had the most fun in deepwoken exploring and fighting random dudes with my friends.

They did something cool to Firfire, adding some legendary weapon, then again it is almost impossible to find without the wiki and causes you to instantly die if you manage to get to it without flamecharm and a specific outfit.

your firfire idea is BRILLIANT

@GearedinEle-zn9bo

Ай бұрын

only the blacksmith]

When it comes to how the lighthook time recharge is calculated, i found it to be 2 minutes waiting before starting to recharge at a 1:1 rate. Although important to note is im pulling this from personal experience and I havent taken the time to extensively confirm this theory yet

Thank you eclipse they must have watched your video they added some things you said in the new update

Honestly initially I thought the lighthook changes you made were odd, but considering all the other changes you made, i'm completely for basically everything in this video. This is an amazing take.

Nice video dude! I really enjoyed your takes on it. keep it up brotha

one thing that is very good tho is that you can log in layer 2, but im not actually sure if you get your light hook back? but it saved me from getting lost, as it puts you back to where you first spawn in floor 1.

6:15 they actually already did invent a portable "lantern" to keep the parasites off of you, and that is the Railblade. In the description of the weapon, it says something about it emitting heat that keeps the parasites off of you, but it actually doesn't do that when you are using it.Some youtuber already talked about this topic.

fun fact on firfire , theres a hidden cliff and theres a kyrsgarde sitting beside a cliff , he will ask you to sit next to him and if you use the resting emote next to him he says speical stuff

@Decaying_bacon

Ай бұрын

What does he say

@thefunnymoongod

Ай бұрын

​@@Decaying_bacon "you're a good friend" or something like that

6:20 about the portable lantern to counter parasite, the railblade should've been able to do that and you kinda can verify it since it's on the lore and description of the weapon

Good news about the firfire section, they did indeed add something to firefire which is a miniboss that drops the new legendary weapon they added like 3 days ago. What an amazing start, just ignore the fact that to fight this boss you must have a bell, have no light hook and when speaking to the npc you must have specific stat requirements or else he just insta kills you.

made some good points about having a town for firfire but tbh i think they were going for a more linear aspect of layer 2 instead of an open world sort of thing like layer 1 the town would still be pretty cool

Fun fact: If you use ironsing you have a mantra called iron skin which can regenerate your armour in layer 2

The union have made stuff to fight parasites aside from the lanterns. From my knowledge the railblade slows down parasite gain and the arcwarder suit completly negates or at least heavily slows parasite gain.

A small gripe i have for newbie regarding npc traps is that some of the buildings in new kyrsa are *death traps* unless you are a *pve* build. And the worst part is that they lock you in. Spawn a shit ton of high hp and dmg enemies and have a god damn rat bait in the form of a pink chest

With your videos, i feel like playing the game again, your ideas for the game are to be honest good, if i had to say one specific idea, it would be the Firfire one, the devs should hear you out

The ignition deepdrill thing would give more incentive to simply loot and leave without killing the bosses for the loot. So if that's to be implemented, I would recommend some sort of downside, like you lose the ability to use the drill again for the next 20 minutes or so cuz the drill has to go back down or smth

Well good video, but here is what i think personaly so basicly layer 2 is a right know a "dungeon" of some sort, if i think about correctly layer 2 will sometime come out just like layer 1 [i am guessing so] And probally have the things you mention in the video.

I wish there was a way to unlock the Kyrsguard lance, an outfit based on the Firfire tribe in floor 1's clothing, AND the Kyrs series of weapons not be stat sticks, THE TRIDENT SPEAR is currently more unique than the Kysglaive, I get the trident spear had it's current critical added later on but still, the Kysguard and Bonekeeper have hands that can spin in a full circle and that concept WASN'T USED FOR THE SPEAR THAT HAS A SIMILAR LOOKING POINT ON IT. I get it's small things but, I see so much more potential in the Krys series

I just started deepwoken 3 days ago and I already wiped my max build, but I just can’t stop playing

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I would really appreciate a progression guide for the last deepbound build you did (Medium weapon Flamecharmer Dawnwalker)

btw the light hook recharges to full everytime u beat chaser so u can keep on farming layer 2 floor 1. you dont have to wait x amount of mins for it to recharge to full after beating floor 1 and the same applies to floor 2 after u beat ethiron and get the lighthook claris sent, it will fully recharge back to 20 mins

Maybe for the portable lantern idea it could be just arcwarder suits or railblade? like when wearing and arcwarder suit no parasites could attach to you or when you use a railblade crit parasites burn off. just some food for thought.

For firfire, i kinda agree with you but if you seen the original floor 2 leaks, it looked like a town with actual npcs (not the kyrsguard npcs) so when verse 2 released i thought floor is 2 was gonna be a city with an antiquarian and such but then everything tried to kill me

if they ever do make layer 3, i would really like it if people gate kept ways of doing stuff so people could find out for themselves, or any other game that chooses to be like deepwoken if there ever is any

Imagine if there was an option to go in with no lighthook, in exchange for better rewards? Maybe a unique weapon that drops from both chaser and ethiron only if you went down with no lighthook.

I think the main issue this game is not *perfect* or has some really huge cons is because devs took too much on them. They have to make lore, have to make lore events/bosses, have to expand the game following the same lore, have to think of PVP and not only PVE and some of the people right now would like a storymode for sure which might be even harder if not impossible to make. Plus the weekly updates are forcing them to make the least so they can do something bigger later.

Reading the diver's books tells you that the kyrsgaurds in firfire cliffs act nice to lure in pray and eventually kill them like they did to the divers. It's not an excuse for a missed idea or anything but its a reason nonetheless as to why you don't get an antiquarian or a blacksmith.

I think i better solution to the lighthook would be if you enter layer 2 with it the player should not be able to loot anything and not being able to use the deepdrill on that safe run, imo with that and some balancing around it it could so lighthook instead of being a emergency button it be a more of a trial thingy to new players to experiment and be more prepared to layer 2 without risking of wiping their character, and to complement that the lighthook duration should be extended and maybe the player should get the loot by leaving with the deepdrill with some exception to items like enchant stones

ECLIPSE'S SUGGESTIONS WERE HEARD, THEY ADDED BACKPACK LANTERNS AND DEEPTREADER BOOTS THAT CAN BE CRAFTED WITH LAYER 2 LOOT IN THIS WEEKLY UPDATE

Eclipse, i think that many of the points you have mentioned are being saved up for layer 3, for example, the firfire race might have left to layer 3 for some unknown reason maybe they saw pleeksty's potential for power and decided to join him and helped him ascend to godhood or some stuff while these firfire dudes that are in L2 have been uninformed of it, for example this is how it cojld have went: an exploration team of firfires went to explore l2 to the fullest or maybe go back to layer 1 (there are yurts (buildings looking like bubble houses) in a part of L1 possibly signifying firfire's influence) and while they were oit of the main area, pleeksty and the others left to L3. Upon coming back, the exploration group noticed everyone was missing and assumed that they just were the last of their kind. And so, we would get to see the firfire race in their fullest in L3, with some of the points you have mentioned such as armour/clothing, a blacksmith specifically for that equipment and whatever else there could be.

The drill IMO makes sense, in the depths if you fall in the void instead of an instant wipe.You are granted a chance to escape through the drill. The reason why don’t keep anything is that you are meant to beat the boss chaser. What would end up happening is people would just farm the mudskipper npcs and do the wax and leave through the drill without risking fighting chaser.

I've always wanted a way to fully progress and live in L2. it would be really fun imo and help new players get better at l2 if we could have Kyrsguard towns like you suggested with antiquarians, blacksmiths, and all those fun super cool very awesome engaging features. i think it would be a better way for new players to learn and experience l2 instead of using the lighthook as a safety net. but the one problem is that starting as a powerless level 1 freshie slot with no weapons or mantras may be hard and or not fun at all.

20:22 at the end of the day, the goal for entering layer 2 is to get loot/xp and to get out. so if in the case that they do make layer 2 more exploration based and methodical, people would still just blaze through the entire thing to get the loot as fast as possible instead of slowing down. that's just what i think though

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Personally with the final collapse timer I wish it was like 30 seconds longer so you had some time to look through the final loot chest.

17:27 Actually, since recent update THERE IS some secret quest in firfire. It even allows you get special weapon. But sadly it's more about dealing with Pleeksty, not with this race.

I liked the idea of the Life Hook, as it prevented newcomers to just wipe out of curiosity.. However, I think it would have been better executed if it was a tool to "Explore" and do a research of the dungeon, and then, to be able to actually complete it, you would have to go in without it. Imagine like, if you go with the life hook, you can do your normal run but with no rewards, no chests. But you can figure How to complete the dungeon in a safe way. And then, after you have the mindset to do it, you will have to go in without the life hook; Chaser spawns and so does the chests and rewards idk, lemme know your thoughts lol

Great points! I can get to chaser in 5 minutes, that’s With killing the bounders, with killing the bonekeepers, for extra chest which are good. I really wanted more quest, more rivalry between the divers and the ignition union, seeing them fight down there over an abandoned settlement. Where you could choose a side to help to gain reputation and specific loot for each one, helping the ignition union would give you guns, ignition deepdelver etc, while the divers would give you black diver, and depths loot. I think that the light hook should be changed completely; instead make it possibly 30-45 minutes, to do quest, kill different bosses, help the ignition union or the divers, obtain special items to counter layer 2. And have multiple ways to go to floor two, having the ministry have a small camp, and people can choose to help them, I think it would be cool if you could choose only one to help, and expand their base but I have no clue how this would work with multiplayer so there’s that. Of course with all this make it so that the map is far bigger, in all directions. Floor two could stay a dungeon while floor one could be more like an exploration, this would come with new enemies, bosses, quest, items, secrets etc etc. I think it would be amazing if you had to do this to go to layer 3 forcing players to actually explore and do layer two before going to layer 3. It’s a lot, and definitely has a shit ton of flaws. I’m no game designer just what I think would be cool!

I believe the lighthook is designed to explore and learn the mechanics of l2. As you said once in your previous videos, Deepwoken is a trial and error game. Its what allowed you and many other players to learn the patterns of the Bonekeeper fight. Its what allowed players to learn how the parasites and the wind works.

i have done many layer 2's since its release, and my main gripe with it is how repetitive it is. i like the ideas you have, but i feel they should also add some more randomized parts to the dungeon kinda like roguelike games do

Yippee, Deepwoken content!!

just have to wait for something like layer 3, because then it might really be something like "no lighthook"

I think they should make floor 1 and floor 2 keep the light hook permanently but u have a set time yk 15 mins and u have to activate it and when its active it ensures you dont wipe and gives you a defense buff against the mobs and terrain effects but in exhange layer 2 in general is harder makes you play more safe with ur light hook and the timer of the light hook can only go down if its active and wont go down if not

I can practically do L2 Hookless with my eyes closed, I even got Chain of Perfection from Chaser (took a jillion runs just due to the tiny ticks of blood damage when Chaser gets knocked, which gave me unnecessary amounts of experience in the dungeon). Honestly one of the biggest things I'd like to see is the non-required encounters being randomized. Like, for example, the static bounder spawn outside of the Ethironal Shrine Sanctuary. Just my two cents, good video as always

what i like but don't like at the same time about layer 2 is how it's just so linear it's a > b > c > boss | a > b > c > d > boss there little to no exploration to be done theres nothing to find other than a random monster or useless lore npc they really should just do a massive layer 2 expansion for the new conquest update making lighthook as a way to just leave whenever instead of a safety net like you said earlier i want to explore layer 2 but i know damn well that theres really nothing out there outside of the boss or floor 2 i want to explore it but im not trying to get infinite comboed by the snipers and wipe over that the only good monster they added to layer 2 is the bonekeeper everything else is just stat check

Personally I prefer the speed running route through layer 2 now since I’ve done it over 100 times and atp it becomes really tedious trying to farm loot or get medallions, although the new secret passage to floor 2 and double chest weekends have helped with this. However I also do really enjoy first time exploration of places and going in blind but only for a little while before it’s actually gets tedious. I think it would be worthwhile to have a system in place for layer 2 and future dungeons where if it’s new to you and it’s your first time, the risks of wiping your character should be reduced or maybe just removed for the first few runs. And maybe for future dungeons when they drop there can be a week grace period of no wiping to allow blind exploration without requiring a guide

Layer 2 has a couple of unique equipment drops that cannot be obtained anywhere else (or are just VERY difficult to find anywhere else) 1. Chaser's Bloodforged Crown. A red crown with a blood-reducing talent that is SO rare barely anyone has held one. 2. Delver's Duster. A leather jacket from an Ignition Union Deepdelver. It's a mythical equipment you usually get in Ethiron or Chaser But i agree, Layer 2 needs some more love.

Personally I think they are working on the town in firfire but they need to add more stuff and flush out parts already in the game like finally adding the voidwalker oath on stuff they already have in game then just making new stuff they already have stuff in lore and game they can finally add because some of the places that is supposed to be important just is kinda empty

Ironsinger, blood crown, and cursed blood earings (or something like that) are armours exclusive to layer 2

Eclipse, when u say L2 is like a speedrunning place, i remember that in the last update made Wind Passage cant clip through walls. Afterwards, they made it clippable by saying "Making Wind Passage clippable through walls for speedrunning".

I agree with basically everything in this video, but i would think an alternative to a portable lantern would be the arc suit from arcwarder killing the parasites over time

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i think the specific npc trap you showed would be cool if that npc right behind him helped you against those, turning a near deathtrap into a reasonable fight