The Feudalist Hierarchy of Online Politics: Destiny, Vaush, Nick Fuentes
The Feudalist Hierarchy of Online Politics: Destiny, Vaush, Nick Fuentes
The third release from Will and His Channel, Will takes a deep dive into the weird relationships between online politics streamers, including King Vaush,, King Destiny, and King Fuentes. He discusses how the interpersonal relationships between the Vaushites, the Daliban, and the Groyper Army function as well as how the players involved vie for power in the online politics space.
Chapters:
Intro: 00:00
Start: 01:50
The Vaushites: 03:32
The Daliban : 05:58
The Groyper Army: 10:28
Power Dynamics: 16:32
the tale of mrgirl: 21:55
Manifest Destiny: 25:10
A King of Their Own Castle: 28:20
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I hate that this is presented like ancient history beacuse it reminds me that knowing this stuff will never ever ever help me irl
I wanted to hate this so badly after watching some of your appearances on Chud's stream (pbuh) but it's actually a great video, lots of fun, cute, thoughtful, nice job man. This is a big leap. The Daliban await your next move, Duke William of his Channel.
@XxNZxXDivisionary
Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, this video Categorises it well.
@guardianevan8406
Жыл бұрын
Hiii adjacent, best clip channel out there
@darkmoon137
Жыл бұрын
You truly earn your chosen avatar, my gigachad comrade 💪🗿 thank you for keeping us up to date on stream adjacent memerinos and being a respectful duder
@jackiechun4741
Жыл бұрын
he's pretty cringe. you can be right and be cringe.
@streamadjacent
Жыл бұрын
@@guardianevan8406
The political online scene is like The Human Centipede every big streamers shit is passed downed to a smaller one and it keeps going...
This was an entertaining representation of lore. The interesting thing about the analogy is that kingdoms and these streaming communities naturally arise from the same human compulsion to rally around charismatic leader figures and form hierarchies. It's just something our psychology is predisposed to doing (but by no means is it something we have to do or are destined to do).
@BlueTyphoon2017
Жыл бұрын
I guess, but, I don’t understand how they’re kingdoms, and I’m a little confused, are you saying that the only reason people rally behind these people is due to their charisma?
@willandhischannel
Жыл бұрын
It’s like 90% the reason.
This was an excellently well written and argued video, and your editing aesthetic is eye catching and entertaining. I loved this video man, subbed and can't wait to see more
@willandhischannel
Жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 🙌 More to come trying to do one video like this a month we shall see.
@jackiechun4741
Жыл бұрын
If you like this aesthetic then please unsubscribe from other channels and only follow this one. Thanks.
@StopItGarrison
Жыл бұрын
@@willandhischannelhonestly woukd be tight to see more dynamics and stories in this exact format. I'm such a dork understanding the events is a little easier when presented in a fake historical/lore format. Maybe some more detailed stories about the kingdoms. The story of King Vaush's origin as a humble daliban discord poster. Or one on Has the Huns story.
@blueferret98
Жыл бұрын
Was gonna send the video to you then I saw this comment lol
@StopItGarrison
Жыл бұрын
@@blueferret98 I'm gay as fuck
as a student of history I highly appreciate your feudalised look at politics!
Regarding your Nick Fuentes segment... 1) The 2017 Unite the Right rally took place in Charlottesvile, VA, not Charleston W. VA (nor Charleston, SC, for that matter). 2) Cozy was not established "in collaboration with Alex Jones". Nick and his ppl did it completely independently of AJ (and everyone else), whom Nick only gave a restreaming channel a while after Cozy's launch. 3) The inaugural AFPAC was by no measure an "abject failure". In fact, given what you accurately described as a low budget, it could be called a resounding success as it made huge waves simultaneously running against nearby CPAC and peeling off quite a few of their curious and disaffected attendees. Also Michelle Malkin is not a "bottom of the barrel" speaker. Her career spans decades, and she was one of the headlining speakers at CPAC the year before and had lit the place on fire with her incendiary speech. 4) AFPAC II: "there were more speakers, and they were less on the fringes of the Alt-Right than before". Oh, you mean the two U.S. Congressional Representatives? Those guys? haha -- um, yeah, I guess you could say that 😄 5) Nick is not an ethnonationist. He is (for lack of a better term) a Christian Nationalist. To be sure, there are many on the Right who are avowed ethnonationalists (perhaps even some who inaccurately identify as Groypers), but that's categorically NOT what Nick or his boss, Ye, are about. The only ethnic component of Nick's worldview is that he wishes America to retain its White majority, as those are the people who founded and forged it, much like the Han in China, and the Jews in Israel.
@bsp2727
Жыл бұрын
All true and real
@drdoomer8553
Жыл бұрын
Nick is in theory an ethno nationalist. He believes it would be better if the races were separate. However he doesn’t believe it’s possible and therefore makes practical arguments for why that argument shouldn’t be made. “America is too diverse, we have to learn to live with each other” or something along those lines
@BezoRazo
Жыл бұрын
@@drdoomer8553 I honestly believe that even if he had a magic genie at his disposal, he wouldn't wish for America to be 100% White. He's far too urbanized and genuinely fond of other races (especially Blks) to want that, and he seems to find a lot of White culture and character unappealing. He just wants to stop the bleeding and to reverse the engineered replacement, and to try to remedy the perverse ethnomasochistic psychosis a great many Whites have developed.
@drdoomer8553
Жыл бұрын
@@BezoRazo nah, I think he knows a popular idiot when he sees one. Kanye and all these other black streamers give him clout/power constantly. He’s appealing to them because he knows he can get some of their audience to like his rhetoric. It’s not a coincidence he’s like a censored version of himself around them. You honestly think he tells Kanye that his children are a product of degeneracy because they’re mixed? Doubt it
@BezoRazo
Жыл бұрын
@@drdoomer8553 They've openly talked about miscegenation, yes. They discussed at frank length Nick's opinion of Ye's latest bit of racemixing with his new bride, Bianca.
Well paced, well edited, and well written. You've got a place amongst the Lords of the Twitch Pol essay Kingdom.
Very good video man, funny jokes, good ideas/concepts, good editing, I'm a destiny fan so idk how good this video is to any other viewers you talked about, but I enjoyed it. I also really enjoyed the framing and how you kept everything within it being medivial, and you did it very well. I haven't watched any of your other videos, but if you framed every videos concepts in a story format way I think that would be a great gimmick as long as you make it interesting.
You can expand the analogy by describing the several streaming platforms as diffrent churches and a ban from then as a excomunication
That was an enjoyable half hour, good points were made, I like your style and delivery, also playing Wagner under Fuentes's groyper section was pretty crack up
This was a really great video buddy. I hope you continue growing. I always love finding small channels that put in so much work.
Heyyy this was great content. Well written and edited. Awesome all the way around.
This took effort and time to make and for me it was great to see Steven watch it. It's also an accurate depiction of the pol space, since his viewing brought me here. I've also subscribed to your channel and I think you can push off into your own thing outside of the current drama....perhaps after the article though? That's a juicy bit of giant roast beast hitting the king's table courtesy of a certain dark lord. But either way, best of luck Will.
A fun and apt analogy, and probably one of your best argued videos :) keep it up man!
Sturdy construction, proper inflow/outflow, colorful decore. I especially loved the 'glue made from his own horses' drapes. Very nice touch!
I like this way of depicting these content creators as feudal lords. For a long time it's felt like we were having faction wars especially after the big splits of Vaush and Hasan, more recently with MrGirl. I think the analogy is especially apt because of the fervor many of the "serf class" react with when engaging with other factions, think /r/place. Great video, you might've just gained a serf
Great lore breakdown. Can’t wait to hear theorycrafting on the future of the Groyper and Vaushite factions.
Disappointed that there was very little mention of King Aba Zulu III perhaps the strongest ally of the Daliaban; especially in the KZread chat region of the kingdom.
@willandhischannel
Жыл бұрын
God damn that is too good.
This is one of the best videos i've ever witnessed in my entire life.
genuinely great edit, love the feudal take haha
This was such an enjoyable and well-put together video.
Goddamn, loved the script and your way of storytelling. Subscribed and liked the video. Fellow DGG
This was actually hilarious af and unexpectedly good.
This was Actually really well written man kudos to you I liked how you used medieval themes to better illustrate vurrent dynamics I hope they see and react to this Great job subbed
Congrats on the 1k subs. Well earned for this video.
This is a great analogy. Forget game of thrones can we get weekly recaps of online drama framed from a feudalist perspective?
A video about my favorite online skitzo community? Keep it up brudda, the Daliban will keep an eye on you.
I really wasn’t sure what to expect from this, but man I was blown away. At first I prepared for a cringe once sided bashing favouring one streamer, but you seemed fair and honest. Excellent work dude.
Nice work. Really enjoyed this.
This is a great video . Very well done
@willandhischannel
Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
Definitely your best video. Legendary haha. Keep it up bro.
Algorithm boosted you to the YT Pol watchers (I don't catch anyone's streams). This was a great video, I hope you can put more out like it.
Insightful video You have earned my sub 🌞
The way online politics works makes me worry about what congress is gonna look like in 20 years
pretty well put together video.
A video essay about Destiny ? You are a brave man
It's been a year and the algorithm has brought me here again!
Great video - well done
My mind is blown. Well done!
I like the comparison. Seems pretty apt tbh. Well done will you have achieved true orbiter status
As a history teacher, i hate this, for i know way too much about the middle ages to not want to nitpick at every parallel you make. On the other hand, I'm on my break, and it was quite a fun watch
@willandhischannel
Жыл бұрын
I know my AP European history teacher definitely wouldn’t be pleased either hahahaha
Wtf lol this video is awesome. I love seeing documentary type things like this covering the whole picture.
Great video !
Thanks for the upload.
The entertainment politics of vaush and destinys section paired with the blunt criticism and almost hitpiece feel nicks section had really show why leftists are inefficient at politics: larp constantly, be smug relentlessly. I dont say that as a groyper, as I am not even american; its just honestly repulsive to watch a jreg clone mixed with twitter thread "anger"
@guibeck8259
Жыл бұрын
Though youre not bad at what you do. You condensed lore pretty neatly. Keep it up and you might be another fly guzzling on the rotten state of politics as nothing more than extremist identities and quirky internet drama
@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943
Жыл бұрын
Vaush and Destiny say they are left but really are not, they like attention and dunking on people.
Flight of the valkyries by Wagner for Fuentes 😂 great stuff. I feel you should have leaned more in to the middle eastern naming conventions for Destiny.
Good vid!!
This is..... Amazing. I greatly enjoyed this. More fantasy style lore please sir
Very fun video!
The advice at the end is really on point
Honestly great video
That ending feels very empowering.
Good points, interested in where you will take your channel now.
It bothers me. How entertaining this is, I mean. All I'll say for now, very well done.
Good writing, good edit ,... This armoured horse kinda liked it. Even if it felt like it missed something to the history and perhaps was not a complete set it was very entertaining and införmative för öutsiders I shöwed it to.. gg🎉
Fantastic work
This was EXCELLENT. 👏👏👏
@willandhischannel
Жыл бұрын
Unblock me from twitter you goober 😂
@OldManLondre
Жыл бұрын
@@willandhischannel I already did you knucklehead!
Good video dggL 😎🤙
Excellent video :)
Great video! I enjoyed it very much! Well worth a like, comment and subscription.. i dont even remember when last i did all those haha
Good video :)
This was actually really good.
The shadow on the wall behind you looks like the stonks meme
Can someone help me find the nick fuentes destiny debate that sneako watched?
I think the charm of spaces like dgg for me is that the content walks a line between casually informative political/social conversation and chaotic drama scoops. You get to clarify your own views through the myriad opinions expressed through podcasts and panels while also not feeling like a student sitting in a lecture hall. The dynamic content has ups and downs, an up being Destiny interacting with redpill communities, which really exposed to me how much peoples upbringing informed their beliefs and how even hard facts can be interpreted with nuance, and a down being the stupid lav drama and the endless hours of voice calls of her slandering him then walking it back in a loop. In the end destiny didnt build the system on purpose and isnt some callous ruler, what he has done is probably the healthiest way to generate content and produce channel growth during political downtime while maintaining his openness to interaction with creators big or small. Edit: subbed :)
@cataddict_
Жыл бұрын
Just wrote this to clarify my own thoughts. Im not deeply invested in this community its just an interesting case study for 1 person wielding a virtual army responsibly.
@MelissaM83
Жыл бұрын
Interesting 🤔
@juyhhkjitth9245
Жыл бұрын
Ur in a cult. Log off.
@Alexmcool
Жыл бұрын
you're out of your mind if you don't think destiny isn't at the very least callous, bud. Guy doxxes people and splits friendships with people who express opinions about him he doesn't like. DggL
Great vid
I didn't think I'd enjoy this so much 😂
This was great.
You should have way more subscribers. This was fiendishly good.
great stuff, will
Who's the girl with glasses at 0:29?
@Ihatemyusernamemore
Жыл бұрын
Taftaj
Thumbo is stronger than your other ones . (I looked because you appeared on my feed) Video is a masterpiece. I hope this gets noticed because it was as good as any video I’ve seen by other people. Probably better.
@willandhischannel
Жыл бұрын
Thanks yo I appreciate it 🙌
Great video, though the fact that I know the subject so well makes me wonder what my priorities in life really are...
This video is great
Terminally online Destiny stans most definitely believe they rule the space
I know few, if any, of these people and am glad.
Hey, Great Historian Will, I have a question. Where does Short Fat Otaku fit in this fuedal landscape?
I found this entertaining despite how you depicted us lmao. You gained a follower. For now.
@willandhischannel
Жыл бұрын
I want to know more about groypers if your willing to talk about it. Join the discord 👍
@ja7880
Жыл бұрын
@@willandhischannel sure
@asherroodcreel640
Жыл бұрын
@@ja7880 does never showering change your skin?
I was introduced to your channel through MrGirl. You deserve way more subs, but for now, have mine.
@asherroodcreel640
Жыл бұрын
The taste of lead paint To have your life changed forever Must we fail so young And yet they chose money over all else Would you do the same Loveing the pedo guy?
“The demon first spawned in early 2020” oh fuck I’m excited for this video
Best summary of the online scene I have seen so far. Hopefully you get more views with King Destiny watching this. Glory to the Daliban Inshallah.
Vaush: King Destiny: Chad Nick: Chud.
@grutsthefoodman3645
Жыл бұрын
This is accurate
9:49 K-9-11 My boi, it keeps getting better by the second.
Bro- why did Chud shit on this? This was fun! I liked this lol Will, I’ll never watch another video you make but this? This was gold lmao thank you, king ❤ It’s a good reminder how silly everything online is lol
insane quality, the Daliban approves
This is low key hilarious. I loved this.
Is this a CK3 Mod?
I really like you will..i hope the best for you...this was awesome!!
5 minutes in, why is Kevin Castley a Vaushite, I've never seen the two interact at all.
@willandhischannel
Жыл бұрын
Self reported.
Thank you Loremaster
This video is pretty fire ngl
I’m a standard Vaushite serf. It’s a nice existence out here. Great vid. Online pol is definitely entertainment first. Always has been to me. You pick stuff up, but hardly. Pol is mostly pointless knowledge, usually just interesting conversation to make with friends irl. I don’t have online friends tbh. Outside of ppl I kind of know on like 2 discord servers. And like a couple Xbox friends that I actually speak to when I rarely go online. Of the hundreds of people who I have added over the years. And like insta and sc obviously. But everyone outside of a few ppl I’ve heard of or have met in person. I’m a socialite irl, unless I’m low on money. Online is just much worse than in person. Unless I’m low on money 😂
This is beautiful 😂❤
Tatehis Khan, conquered the internet just to have his empire collapse.
This shit was pretty funny. Good work.
Got this video as first recommended video, seems as though you’ve appealed to the divine king that is the algorithm
this video is such a fucking banger im dying
Thanks for the creative recap done in a voice narration I find calming. I watch destiny and vaush only casually, not invested since I'm outside US, but still enjoyed the vid.
So, you've described the entertainment industry.