As a commenter pointed out, we made a mistake regarding Hades source of invisibility. We apologize for the error, and thank you @doncalicula7938 & @MariuigiKhed for noting it!

@alberich3963

Жыл бұрын

Make videos about Lucian Dialogues of the Dead

@alberich3963

Жыл бұрын

Is a really cool source

@alberich3963

Жыл бұрын

And about Hades from Plato Cratylus 403 and 404 ( Socrates talks about Hades in it! He literally said that everyone falls in love with Hades and that' s why no one leaves the underworld!

@marisoldavis3357

Жыл бұрын

On your next video of Deity can you do one about water Deity.

@TB-1927

Жыл бұрын

I personally love Hades and Persephone more than other Greek Gods. At least in the version I know in general, they don't do many bad things to mortals like the Mythological Nightmare that is known as the Olympians, and Persephone shares equal power and authority with Hades. They never cheat on each other.

Hades did not have an shield that did make him invisible. It was an helmet.

@tecumsehcristero

Жыл бұрын

FYI “an” is only used when the following words begin with a vowel if the words begin with a consonant than it’s just “a”. I say this to help you with your English. What is your mother language?

@doncalicula7938

Жыл бұрын

@@tecumsehcristero German Thank you

@HexMyEnemies

7 ай бұрын

@@tecumsehcristeroUh that came off as rude

First off, Minthe was not a mortal. She was a nymph of one of the rivers in the Underworld. Secondly, she had it coming.

@inkynewt

Жыл бұрын

I see we have another Lore Olympus fan who treats a comic as stand-in for actually sourced myth.

@chewiecheshire7973

Жыл бұрын

@Qoi Pond I have never read Lore Olympus; I have heard of it, of course, but I never personally read the comic. Honestly, I am not sure where I first heard it. The first place I remember hearing it was The Mythology Guy, but I am certain I heard about it before them. But Minthe is an actual figure in Minthe, not an original character.

@HexMyEnemies

7 ай бұрын

@@inkynewtDon’t assume :/

@wagnerandrade4748

2 ай бұрын

I spilled my coffee with the "sha had it coming" 😂 And yes, I love lore Olympus lol

took a couple of listens before I realized that the catchy tune "Pomegranate Seeds" by Julian Moon was about Hades and Persephone. I think more music should incorporate ancient mythology :P

@hyalinamusic18

Жыл бұрын

The Andorran progressive death metal band Persefone's second album Core is a concept album all about the story of Persephone. The Swedish progressive metal band Opeth has a song called Persephone too. And not about Persephone: Symphony X tackle a lot of mythological themes in their music. A lot of their albums are concept albums based on classic texts like Paradise Lost and The Odyssey. Haken have a few songs from their album The Mountain that are inspired by mythology. Atlas Stone obviously being about Atlas, and Falling Back To Earth has references to Icarus. Periphery have a couple songs inspired by Icarus too. Icarus Lives is the obvious one, but Wax Wings from their newest album has plenty of references too.

@thalescalixto1394

8 ай бұрын

​@@hyalinamusic18.

One of my favorite stories. I took a Mythology class in high school. That was a long time ago but if I remember right I included them in my part of my final exam. It was read to the class.

Hades insivisibility cap is his most treasured item

They have good pomegranates at least

I mean it depends on which one you're looking at, because there's many versions to that story and some she gets kidnapped by him, and others she goes willingly to get away from her controlling mother.

@inkynewt

Жыл бұрын

In all of the original Greek texts we have, it was a kidnapping. The going willingly narrative was made up by a feminist writer in the 80s or 90s. Overly Sarcastic's Persephone video talks about this! Good story but not the original one as far as we can tell.

@sindelscat9336

Жыл бұрын

@@inkynewt I do think her video is credible, however the story that she goes willingly was not just invented by a feminist, in fact it was a lot longer than the 80s and the 90s, we also can't exactly point out which one is the original, considering how old the myth actually is.

@inkynewt

Жыл бұрын

@@sindelscat9336Can you please point me to a credible source citing the narrative of a willing Persephone predating the 20th century? I'd love to read more.

@sindelscat9336

Жыл бұрын

@@inkynewt the pre-hellenic translation of the myth also stated that she went with him willingly, it even stated that she ate the fruit knowing full well what it would do, but that is the only one I can find pre dating the 20th century, I did find the feminist story you were talking about, but it wasn't in the 80s, it was in the 70s. In some of the older adaptations, Zeus arranges the entire thing.

@inkynewt

Жыл бұрын

@@sindelscat9336 Okay, I will believe you when you point me to a source that backs this up. I cannot find any peer reviewed or credible sources backing what you say up. If you can provide them I'm happy to believe you, however as it stands it looks like you're making something up because you like one narrative better than the other and are likely a Lore Olympus fan.

On the topic of Greek gods, it'd be cool to see a video of Phobetor. I don't really see much discussion on him, and frankly, I had no clue of his existence till his popped in a monster prompt list I'm doing.

"invisible shield and scepter" Since WHEN!?! He had an invisibility helmet, but his scepter was the two pointed fork

@john_dosson

Жыл бұрын

You are right. Zeus had the thunderstrike(1 point) κεραυνός. Hades, his brother, had the fork(2 pointed) δίκρανο and the other brother, Poseidon, had the trident(3 pointed) τρίαινα.

@MariuigiKhed

Жыл бұрын

@@john_dosson and somehow the devil figure suddenly became the lord of the sea

@john_dosson

Жыл бұрын

@@MariuigiKhed dont know about devil. All i know is that trident is Poseidon's trademark

One video about Lucian Dialogues of the Dead Will be cool

Technically it was less of a kidnapping and more of an arranged marraige, approved and ordered by Zeus (the father of Persephone). Persephones own opinion on this differs from myth to myth. But in the end Persephone did get a queen title and a pretty faithful husband (more faithful than Zeus and Posedien) who loves her, not to mention every mortal becomes her subject eventually, so she got a pretty sweet deal at least.

I would like all these chapters to be in the future seasons of Monstrum. *Sea Serpents *Leviathan *Phantom Vehicles *Boogeyman *Ghosts *Possessed Dolls *Shadow People *Undead *Goblins *Bigfoot *Creepy Clowns *Killer Robots *Swamp Monsters *Scarecrows *The Invisible Man *Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde *Merfolk *Oni *Demons *Skeletons *Stingy Jack (Jack of The Lantern) *Gnomes *Sea Monsters that attacked Submarines *Kitsunes *Ogres *Ghouls *Lich *Cyborgs *Witches *Kaiju *El Charro Negro *The Rake *Revenants *Vampires *Dagon *Ogopogo *Colossal Claude *Spectral Carriages *Kappa *Flatwoods Monster *Flying Dutchman *Cursed Pirates

- "Where she became Queen of the Dead... & Later used her Goddess powers to wreak havoc upon her mortal adversaries with transformation spells & devastating plagues." Excuse me, what? Up until this point the facts were pretty straight forward, typical, well known stuff. But this: Site our sources, where in the mythology is this coming from!?! She made plagues & unleashed the plagues on mortals?!? WTF

@Boss_Isaac

11 ай бұрын

She may have misspoken in sating plagues, but yes, Persephone's name was inscribed on curse tablets, the queen of the netherworld was invoked by mortals to bring down curses upon others. Indeed the goddess commands the three Furies, the wraiths of vengeance tasked with hounding people who commit acts of hubris and driving them insane lest they repent.

When did Persephone plague anyone (except for the Nymph, Minte)?

Greetings Professor Zarka, how are you doing? I hope you are doing well. I have a recommendation to make. Can you make a video on Satan? I was reading on the subject and I was shocked to find that Indra's Zoroastrian version Angra Mainyu is considered to be it's source. I would love to see your thoughts on the subject. Maybe you can also study Satan as an evolving symbol of iconography in our culture. Or perhaps by drawing parallels from other myths. I believe it will be an interesting video.

Awesome video!!!!

There's a detailed exploration of Hades and Persephone at kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5dpzdWThNnAfps.html. Goes into the Mycenaean mythology, which still includes Demeter and Persephone, but Hades didn't exist yet! It's quite thorough and fascinating!

I am intrigued by how a mortal (like Persephone) can be converted into a deity. Is this still possible today?

@andrewbedwell8186

Жыл бұрын

Simple, Persephone wasn’t mortal. She was the daughter of Zeus and Demeter, and in many myths it was actually Zeus’s idea for him to kidnap her. This means she was always a goddess and also Hades’ niece.

@inkynewt

Жыл бұрын

Persephone was always a deity. She's the daughter of Demeter and Zeus. Full deity blood, not even a demigod like a lot of heroes. It's thought this may be a holdover from older myths being smashed into the Persephone myth-most likely those of a no longer extant flower maiden goddess.

@GregoryTheGr8ster

Жыл бұрын

@@inkynewt Ah, I see. My hopes of being made into a deity are again dashed to the rocks (though note that my hopes were never very high to begin with). These days, the most exalted people on the planet are those who surgically transition from one gender to another. One who does so will be an instant celebrity: featured on the covers of magazines, being interviewed by the mainstream media, and given VIP treatment everywhere. Such "transitioning" is probably the closest that we mortals can come to being turned into a deity in our lifetimes, I suppose. It won't make us immortal, but it will give us superhuman allure.

@Copperkaiju

Жыл бұрын

​​@@GregoryTheGr8sterWhat about Psyche and Romulus? They were mortals that became gods. Don't forget saints. Many consider this a successor to deification. Also when celebrities like Elvis or Tupac died, people claimed to see them alive and hiding in various places. Maybe it's all part of a similar thought process.

@hailmammonmoments7568

Жыл бұрын

You’re going to Love Lord Olympus…maybe.

"kind of rough [...] but kind of charming nevertheless" is a good way to describe this pair

Thanks for the video

Tye most fascinating thing about Persephone, and other gods like Hermes and Dionysus, is hwo far they go back, wven to the Mycenaeans and the Minoans. Persephone predates myths of Hades, and evidence exists for the theory that Persephone was the queen of the afterlife alongsode Poseidon

There was one ancient Greek god that I wish, someone, had an extended informative video. Sabazios. Not well known, as Zeus or his other two brothers, but he had worshipers all over north ancient Greece and Rome.

@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369

Жыл бұрын

I shall search

@gopnikfett

Жыл бұрын

He was a Thracian/Phrygian god, not a Greek one

@john_dosson

Жыл бұрын

@@gopnikfett Thrace was a later part of Greece. By that point, his religion spread through Epirus and Rome.

Thanks Kirsten Dunst

"Wreak" rhymes with "reek".

Interesting! 🤔👏👊👍

can we get a longer vid on this ? I wanna know more about Persephone's role

@inkynewt

Жыл бұрын

Check out Overly Sarcastic's videos on hades and persephone!

@QueenDany69

Жыл бұрын

@@inkynewt i hav love it

@pbsstoried

Жыл бұрын

Hi there, you should check out our full episode all about the mother and daughter duo, Demeter and Persephone. Let us know what you think in the comments! kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y5x2zcl_d6qTk7A.html

Do you ever make matcha at home? Like, with the wooden brush foam tool thing?

Meanwhile, there's a common misconception about the underworld; that Hades and Persephone share the same dimension, however, they missed the fact about Elysium, a floral paradise where Persephone resides and rules over the righteous dead.

Dread Persephone ❤️ and chtonic Zeus

Hades is probably the best husband out of all the gods, he treats persephone well, never cheated on her (COUGH ZUES, AND LITTERALLY EVERY OTHER GOD COUGH COUGH)

ooh first short

Kind of charming!?!? I don't want to even know what Dr.Z is in too

And dealing with unpredictable deities in the afterlife was different from life in ancient myths how? 😜

Helmet..... Invisibility helmet. Where the hell did you get your sources.

A greek God badboy on a dark and mysterious chariot, Ya don't think she was kidnapped 😅

Meh. I subscribe to the myth where hades asked permission from Zeus, who was her father. No kidnapping involved

Charming???? How are plagues charming? Did she mean to say that?

@ladykoiwolfe

Жыл бұрын

Well, despite all the dead around mortals did keep trying to get in while still alive and sometimes to seduce the Hades or Persephone. Must gave been something Charming about it. And It did help win her over to be his queen.

Sorry its unrelated to the video, but you look like J.K. Rowling but younger, probably because of the dress

@stellangios

Жыл бұрын

Younger and so much less evil

@alfredbelanger8326

Жыл бұрын

​@@stellangios The good ending.

Thats not the whole story. But you know that doc.

Please put this on a separate channel. I did not subscribe for this TikTok style of content, and KZread won't let me filter these out of my subscription feed. If not, I will be forced to unsubscribe. 😥

@LindaC616

Жыл бұрын

Just scroll past, it's a small thing

@RantingThespian

Жыл бұрын

@@LindaC616 When every channel you follow start posting Shorts, it stops being a small thing.

@LindaC616

Жыл бұрын

@@RantingThespian champagne problems

@RantingThespian

Жыл бұрын

@@LindaC616 What does that even mean?

@LindaC616

Жыл бұрын

@RantingThespian it's a less offensive way of saying "first world problems."" No whining on the yacht."

Pretty sure it was a helmet not a shield

@pbsstoried >>> 👍👍