Poor Laura Wray. Her life is horrible thinking her stalker is looking to buy a house near her

I watched Laura’s interview and that woman I felt was very honest about everything she suffered from Fiona.

If she gets one penny im cancelling netflix

@dudeorduuude5211

17 күн бұрын

She will. They effed up.

@orlawalsh926

17 күн бұрын

@@dudeorduuude5211 well there is another lady right behind her and many more than can sue her. We cant reward appauling behaviour

@maruskaehrensdorfer

15 күн бұрын

Well then her victims can sue HER, since she will finally have money.

@bernicemakeupartist8257

14 күн бұрын

@@maruskaehrensdorfer I completely agree.. The poor first Lawyer that she brutilized with stalking can then possibly press charges.. My concern would be that ibecause it was longer than 5-7 years ago it may be out of juristiction now :(

@maruskaehrensdorfer

14 күн бұрын

@@bernicemakeupartist8257 yup! I'm not familiar with how the law works in the UK, esp Scotland, so we will just have to wait and see how this plays out.

This woman is exactly as she was portrayed. Richard Gadd stated from the beginning that he did not want her to go to prison with her emotional problems.

@ElanaVital83

18 күн бұрын

He's a chump. She needs to be in prison before she ends up killing someone

@haroldwhite5761

17 күн бұрын

You're aware Gadd's been caught lying?

✨ Laura Wray gave Morgan a 1hour in depth & very credible interview that should have got more than the few minutes airtime here. People need to realise that *a person can have 'mental health issues' & still do awful, terrible things, while fully in their senses* . *Mental health is too often being used as defence for everything & to excuse really bad criminal behaviour* Fiona Harvey clearly has these issues but she knows exactly what she's doing, shes a nasty piece of work & we have to stop allowing 'mental health' as a defence or to prevent justice being served on these people. They very often know exactly how to manipulate the law, the system & the public. *As someone who suffers from mental health problems myself, i find its insulting & unfair to allow people to abuse the issue in this way*

@windywednesday4166

14 күн бұрын

Yup... the fact that Fiona Harvey moves on to her next victim as soon as her current victim gets a court order against her shows she understands what she's doing. ❤

I wonder if Laura Wray agrees with the theory that Fiona Harvey is the victim due to her poor mental health. This sort of toxic empathy taken to its logical conclusion would result in the majority of people in prison being released.

@castlerock58

17 күн бұрын

It depends what the facts turn out to be.

@haroldwhite5761

17 күн бұрын

What it does is call attention to inadequate healthcare system. Do you want this happening again? Great, do nothing to fix healthcare.

Well, in my opinion ‘Martha’ should be on a police watch list so that she can’t destroy somebody else’s life.

@alisondean1979

3 күн бұрын

She is on the METS( London police) watch list...

@alisondean1979

3 күн бұрын

Ps after she sent starter threatening emails

@alisondean1979

3 күн бұрын

Starmer predictive text 😂

I find stalkers repellant. They do appaling damage. And nowhere near enough is done to stop them by law enforcement.

I've been stalked: it's very frightening. The person in question was under psychiatric care, & my husband & I contacted his psychiatrist, explaining we didn't wish to hurt his client but we needed this stalking to stop. It continued so eventually we took him to court. Post court the stalking stopped. There was no question of $ involved: we just wanted to live our lives in peace. Two others we knew were also affected, but didn't wish to pursue it further, fearing an escalation of the behaviour, & release of private information.

SmithBehn (law firm in UK for Netflix) didn’t drop the ball to this extent. Harvey’s attorney presented a “Basic” DBS saying there’s no criminal record recorded. We need the “Enhanced” report which does not spend the record of an offense like this. The Basic would “reset” her record after a period of time. The pain this woman has caused so many people should not be rewarded. And she shouldn’t be allowed to hide behind “mental problems”. Officials should have taken Wray’s alarm more seriously to begin with.

@lilbean5955

18 күн бұрын

richard gad said the prison scenes werent true more just added in to show what shoulda happened

@jenniferpichardo6012

17 күн бұрын

She should have been in jail

Ok. All of these people are pissed because Netflix didn't do enough to disguise Martha. Netflix gave her a criminal background and a conviction would have been just two ways of disguising her. Now she wants to sue Netflix because they didn't portray her honestly. She can't have it both ways. Also, DONNY DUNN, the CHARACTER, was the one who typed the true story line. IT WAS DONNY DUNN'S STORY. It's not fair to diagnose her as mentally ill? Omg! All anyone has to do is watch the interview and 5 minutes in you'll see for yourself this woman is a fruit roll-up! The big one for e was her telling PM that Laura Wray HEADHUNTED her because she was an expert in employment law. That crap was so damn easy to debunk it's comical. Overall, the only person who I can see has a real case is Laura Wray.

I wish he had spoken, even just over the phone, to Laura Wray BEFORE his interview with Harvey. That way he could have nailed some of her lies on air.

@bernicemakeupartist8257

17 күн бұрын

Fiona would have found some way to lie about that too... Her brain and mouth dont know how to tell the truth

She sent 41,000 emails to Richard Gaad. Her reputation was ruined because she is stalker not because people think she is a convicted stalker. She does not deserve a dime. It says in the series that certain events and people's name were changed. Mentally ill people should NOT get a free pass to stalk or commit other crimes. She CHOSE not to get help. I say that as a person with Bipolar Disorder.

@Skaterbun

17 күн бұрын

Proof of 41,000 emails?

@castlerock58

17 күн бұрын

How do you know that? The claim about the emails is from the same source that lied about her being a convicted criminal. There is no evidence that she has committed any crimes.

@londoncalling1803

17 күн бұрын

@@Skaterbun are you kidding me? Okay, what about the 5 years of abuse of her former employer? She called child services on a disabled child!!! There’s a pattern! Mental illness does not mean no repercussions for her actions. She’s competent enough to go on TV and sue! Lazy good for nothing. Never held a job down living off the dole. The lawyer she terrorized has said she she get a payout she will sue her for the money hs

@melancolie83

16 күн бұрын

@@SkaterbunTo me, the performance of the actress says it all. She’s an immensely talented actress, but she’s no medium or psychic, she’s had to have had access to a crazy amount of emails and voicemails to channel her so perfectly, without ever meeting her in person.

I thought it was ironic that she’s come out and said that she wants to be left alone. Must be awful to be hounded!

@jenniferpichardo6012

17 күн бұрын

Everyone is coming for her now 😂

@suemcgregor9248

16 күн бұрын

She should join the JWs, she could knock on stranger's doors to her heart's content

It’s her eyes that freak me out and the way she stares 🤣🤣

@bernicemakeupartist8257

17 күн бұрын

shes dead inside... she's really scary

@windywednesday4166

14 күн бұрын

Right?! At the end of the video when Piers Morgan had her look into the camera and explain her cause to people I actually yelped and almost fell out of my chair! Omg... I never want to see that again.😮

I couldn't stop laughing when I saw the title of Mike Graham’s interview, “Sent From Iphon”. What a clever way to make an interesting title! 🤣

That she always says she did not send ”41.000 e-mails” did not ”assault anyone by the canal” is a way not to lie. It might be totally true that she have NOT sent 41.000, but maybe 39.000? She might have done something, but not by THE CANAL. There is alot of these things.

@catwoman7462

18 күн бұрын

If there was no truth to the series then how did she decide that it was about her?

@jenniferpichardo6012

17 күн бұрын

True

@castlerock58

17 күн бұрын

Sort of like her saying that she has never been convicted with a crime or even charged with one. The evidence appears to support that. Netflix has not produced any emails. This will come down to evidence.

People love mentioning that it says 'True Story' but never mention that every episode has a disclaimer saying that people and events have been fictionalised for dramatic purposes

@castlerock58

17 күн бұрын

A Netflix executive testified, under oath, to parliament that the story was true. If she was not convicted of a crime, that was perjury and repeated the defamation. He did not give a disclaimer that his testimony was perjury for dramatic purposes.

@mimig6511

17 күн бұрын

and it is the fictional character of Donny writing "This is a true story" isn;t it??

@ThatSoundsBoring

15 күн бұрын

@@mimig6511 Yes exactly. The character says it’s a true story, not Netflix. Otherwise it would be a documentary about a woman called Martha.

@paulasuasua1971

15 күн бұрын

They are protected by the disclaimer at the end of each episode

I wish folk would stop referring to it as a documentary or a docuseries. It was a DRAMA based on true events. Jesus.

@maruskaehrensdorfer

15 күн бұрын

Exactly! Which is why Netflix effed up and why Fiona Harvey has a case, unfortunately. But at least if she gets some settlement, her victims can then sue HER, since she will then have money. You can't sue a person who doesn't have money.

@windywednesday4166

14 күн бұрын

Yes... I've heard some back and forth but my understanding is that Netflix has it listed under drama on their menu. ❤

Netflix still laughing at the marketing ploy. You couldn't formulate or buy this much publicity.

@catshez

18 күн бұрын

Yes, I got sucked in. I wasn't interested in the series until last week. The whole concept freaked me out. However Fiona's appearance in my YT newsfeed lured me to watch the series and then her interview with Piers.

@herbertlongfellow7702

18 күн бұрын

It's a fantastic show though

@maruskaehrensdorfer

15 күн бұрын

I actually think that Netflix did this on purpose and that they KNEW that this was going to be the fall out. I watched the series back when it first came out, not because of the publicity it got.

Real life Annie Wilk's from the movie Misery... even looks like her. Mad.

The woman deserves no respect she is cruel and did not care about Richards life when she tried to purposely destroy it! She deserves Karma

I feel like that body language assessment was really accurate

i cant believe ppl defended her who gives af about her mental health

The Harvey woman is way too mentally unstable to sustain herself through a court trial. The whole mess of this will result in catastrophe for herself. NETFLIXS' lawyers will tear her to shreds. She should DROP IT!!!!

@lynnhubbard844

18 күн бұрын

they will settle out of court

@judithmorganjudyteen

17 күн бұрын

​@@lynnhubbard844will we learn the damages ? Some of her victims would like to know I'm sure

@windywednesday4166

14 күн бұрын

Yes, that's what I'm thinking. She could barely hold it together on the Piers Morgan interview, I'd be surprised if she hasn't already started having a go at her own lawyers. 😮

She shud not get one penny what she's put people through disgusting

She cant claim that on one hand, she is the real Martha and on the other say that the show, baby reindeer was totally false, completely made up and is defaming her. Both cant be true at once, eitjer the show is depicting her accurately ( if the show is true as it states) or it is as she says, Baby reindeer is totally made up and a fabrication. I dont think she will win

@suemcgregor9248

16 күн бұрын

If it's a fabrication, how did she recognize herself? If she's never watched it as she claims, how does she know it's a fabrication?

@andreaparker801

16 күн бұрын

@suemcgregor9248 that's what I'm saying

Nobody would question a woman accusing a man of stalking her. Nobody would wonder if such man had mental issues. Everybody would consider just one victim.

@castlerock58

17 күн бұрын

If she falsely claimed that he was a convicted criminal who went to prison, she would be questioned because she would be a proven liar.

@user-uo9jx3ui2k

17 күн бұрын

Exactly. Sexism cuts both ways.

@lee-tx5mw

16 күн бұрын

​@user-uo9jx3ui2k its only directed at males these days

@user-uo9jx3ui2k

16 күн бұрын

@@lee-tx5mw that's not true. Women are still disproportionally victims of violent crimes. However our sexist, gendered world seems to resist the idea that men too can be, and indeed sometimes are victims.

@ITI-xi5zx

16 күн бұрын

Not true at all. There is an ENTIRE Netflix series about women being stalked, telling police, police not believing them, and then being killed by their stalker. police do not take women's accusations seriously, and they never have.

I don't understand why everyone is obsessed with Martha and no one mentions that man who Gadd claims assaulted him.

Richard Gad may not have known, but Netflix produced another little gem called Don’t F**k With Cats in which the internet sleuths were able to track a person down with just terrible quality little clips of terribly disturbing content, so they knew how easily the online community can hunt someone down.

@LyndaHill

18 күн бұрын

And she didn't remove her distinguishing posts from her social media - even when he was doing the play, she could have done that then. Let alone later.

@Bless-Your-Heart-

18 күн бұрын

@@LyndaHill I agree, she played her part, no doubt. I was commenting solely on Netflix’s doe eyed naïveté about having done their due diligence to make sure the net couldn’t track her down. Netflix’s people had a “responsibility of care” and I sincerely hope that their failure to do that doesn’t lead a sadistic stalker to be financially rewarded for her behavior. If Netflix should pay out to anyone in this situation it’s the one true victim, Laura Wray. They’ve turned her life upside down.

Of course she sent the emails. A pathological liar who consistently and systematically contradicts herself. It's,all looking very bad for her most especially now that Ms Wrey has come forward. This is going to end badly for her.

Everyone has the right to tell the story of what happened to them. If Fiona is unhappy about it she should have behaved better. And also not outed herself.

The character Donnie typed 'this is a true story'. Not Netflix

@Dalriada123

18 күн бұрын

Good point!

@SIRGLYONS

18 күн бұрын

@@Dalriada123 SAYS WHO ??

@judithmorganjudyteen

18 күн бұрын

​@@SIRGLYONS Well, Dalriada !

@mariaobrien8228

18 күн бұрын

So you all missed that a representative from Netflix stood in the British parliament and stated under oath that it was a true story?

@judithmorganjudyteen

18 күн бұрын

No , different point ​@@mariaobrien8228

People like her are deeply traumatized and damaged. She needs help not mocking. Offcourse people have to be protected from her to. In no way people should be making fun of her.

When ever Piers asks a question she doesn't want to answer hmmmm hmmmm mmm I want to reach into KZread.

@johnnyhartley4330

18 күн бұрын

hmmmm hmmmm mmm

Certain offences are wiped from your record after 7 years. Maybe hers has been wiped so it wont be found. If you serve a sentence more than 48 months your conviction will always be disclosed.

When someone says, "even if it's true...." it's more than likely some truth to it. That statement reveals that she's deceptive.

Ironic~Why doesn't the SNP MP do something more to tighten the law protecting the victim instead? It is difficult to convict the stalker anywhere and "she" knows about it.

Netflix should double down and do Fiona’s story as well.

Well a lot of men have made money because of her including now Piers.

If Gadd truly knew the behaviour of this woman why did he not do more to make it harder to find her. He must have known she would jump at the opportunity to find a way to seek revenge on the series. It's all a bit weird.

@suemcgregor9248

16 күн бұрын

Why should a victim defend a perpetrator? If she isn't going to answer for her behaviour in Court, she should be grateful to him

But it was Fiona who requested to be interviewed by Piers and whether or no she was uncomfortable or lying is irrelevant as all she wants is to supersede and falsify the Netflix side of the story, Fiona is furious they have tried to make money off her back, Gadd himself is also said to be mentally unstable, so who’s the liar. The only way to ask who’s lying and who’s telling the truth is to take it to court.

I would like to see more persuit of the industry man who abused Richard Gadd. There is so much focus on Martha and no focus on his abuser.

If Fiona Harvey wine and gets money from netflix, then I hope Laura Wray she's her and the others come forward that Fiona has harrassed.

She put herself out there...maybe she had been identified but the whole world did not know at that point....the Interview was a contradictory mess....she is so cocky going after millions...it is nauseating!!!

Netflix just needs to use this, for evidence

Richard was vulnerable too.

Laura Wray is the real victim here and I'd like to see justice for her. As for Netflx - ironic how they are making this their "thing" - fictionalising real life situations to make money but without due thought on how their shows impact the people they are fictionalising...as disclaimer saying based on a true story seems a minor statement that could have saved a lot of money...

She stalked him he went to the police to ask for help she clearly did it why anyone is mad at him is beyond comprehension she’s also been stalking others .. the fact she’s not in jail is beyond belief,, HER OWN FAMILY SAID SHE WAS SENT TO JAIL

Let’s get this straight. A dramatic limited, biographical series written and acted by a talented man about his experiences. At no point did he identify her. He could use the texts and emails because once she sent them, they belong to him. It’s his property. The show wasn’t about her, it was about him. And he wasn’t the only one abusing him, and the other abuser gets lots of scream time, too. This is his story, his emails and texts to publish. She could have laid low, but the idiot outed herself completely, not just by some sleuths on line. If there’s fallout, it’s on all on her. They have all the communications, Fiona! And they didn’t out you, you outed you!

This series touches a lot of subjects. The service of police in this cases one of them, mental health, how people deal with trauma, etc. It is not only about this woman.

Netflix had a duty of care to Richard Gadd too. He’s a damaged young man so Netflix come and ask him to write a series. They should not have said it was a true story even though it is. I doubt he had anything to do with that decision. It may have one or two embellishments. This is artistic licence not lying. It’s to emphasise the trauma. And Richard Gadd was brutally honest about myself. That was courageous of him.

Just because someone behaves poorly, doesn't give others the right to publicize LIES about them along with truth.

I think it's disgusting her gettin air time after what she's done to people she obviously not well to sit an lie

By all accounts she is a stalker, but she has not been convicted. Can she win the case just by stating she is not convicted and it was not difficult to guess her identity?!

The causation of a crime....e.g because they are mentally unwell or not should NOT effect the DUTY of judiciary & police to act in the interests of VICTIMS & society!

She's not the victim, tho

You can see she is not being truthful and is saying it was everyone else who treated her poorly. It's really disgusting to watch.

what kind of sad life do you have to have to spend precious time to look for someone you don't know based on a story on tv? Like... jesus.

I'm sick of the debate. What are the facts?

Its getting a life of its very own .....and it's only getting bigger!

@jenniferpichardo6012

17 күн бұрын

She is doing all this to see him in person

finally...all that about saying it is a true story and NOT declaring it being "based" on a true story and not saying stuff being fictionalised is clearly not true...why Morgan insist on misleading all? No legal case to win...the fact the character seems to go to court, plead guilty etc is just proof of tha, fictionalising and dramatising the plot!....." no defamation" it is fictionalised and facts are added/changed...

No one seems to be mentioning that the part where he TYPES 'this is a true story' is within the drama of him re-telling his story. Usually a film/series or doc will state that it is a true story or based on a true story BEFORE the drama begins OR during opening credits. Here in Baby Reindeer, the story has already begun so it can be argued that it was part of the drama of him recalling the events of his experience. At the end of the series during the closing credits it says: Based on the play 'Baby Reindeer' by Richard Gadd. Although it is the same font, there is a distinct difference with how the text is portrayed - one is typed and one is obvious credits. It is however, still sloppy by Netflix.

Can I give you advice as a diabetic. She is diabetic and we tend to get dry mouth due to to high blood sugar reading. This may be the cause.

Ithink it’s fair to say that Netflix have failed in their duty of care toward (at least) two vulnerable people here. I hope Richard Gadd is getting the support he needs in the same way as Fiona Harvey (rightly) appears to be. I’ve finally watched Baby Reindeer (having seen the fallout before seeing the series). It’s compelling. Weirdly I didn’t really feel like it was about Martha though. Obviously it was to an extent, but I felt more like I was inside Donny’s brain/journey & Martha was only one of many toxic elements of that. By the end all I could think was that given the intense backlash I hope Richard is receiving support. It would be utterly tragic if the public/legal response to telling his story causes him to spiral back into mental illness & self destructive behaviour.

She did admit the interdict though and Laura did clarify that she didn’t take it no further as it seemed to of done the job! Anyway I hope she still sues netflicks

@judithmorganjudyteen

18 күн бұрын

If she wins, I hope Laura sues her

@HoneyRyderThree

18 күн бұрын

@@judithmorganjudyteen cmiiw but Laura did say in the previous interview with Piers that she will sue her. She’s scared

@judithmorganjudyteen

18 күн бұрын

​@@HoneyRyderThreehope she does

@Nat_Ash_A

17 күн бұрын

@@HoneyRyderThreewhat would Wray Sue Fiona for exactly? According to Wray, she never reported Fiona to the police and has not heard from Fiona in 22yrs. So far Fiona has only denied stalking her, which she has every right to do since there is no conviction… so I wonder, what will Wray Sue for? It’s not Fiona’s fault that Gadd decide to use Wray in the series… why doesn’t she sue Netflix too?

It is a comedy “based on a true story” is part of that comedy, don’t take it all so seriously. As for the real-life woman, move on, stop trying to cash in. You outted yourself.

@SIRGLYONS

18 күн бұрын

it says ,,,,, THIS IS A TRUE STORY ....... NOT BASED ON .......

@TheMaltebella

18 күн бұрын

​@@SIRGLYONS Donny writes that. It starts out with that character writing a play. You hear the typing.

At about 8:06 you state “I think she definitely sent …” It really should be one or the other. If you’re not quite sure, then say “think”. If you’re positive in your conviction, say “definitely”. So many people make this error.

i have been LIVING...

That sip of water is popular with Gill Bates.

They have plenty of evidence of her endless stalking. From more than person!

What is the music running in the background - absolutely ruins a very interesting piece

@cherylbeswick7327

17 күн бұрын

What music?? 😂 I heard non

Well besides all these so called views I have not seen the interview , and can't be bothered with such tripe, what I do find worrying is that so many people are captivated by this stupidity my only message is for heavens sake get a life who the bloody hell cares so much unrest in the world that needs to be addressed and you meltdown over some thing like this. Come om wake up

is this the most important thing in the world today?

@lynnhubbard844

18 күн бұрын

stalking IS a thing in society today, especially with social media

She will get the money when we get a lie detector test.

1 - is there any psychology ppl out there that can decipher those wierd noises she made when piers was talking 2- am I the only one that thinks the bigger story is the guy that multiple raped gadd ? Much more to this story than we r being told

@judithmorganjudyteen

18 күн бұрын

Doesn't like Piers talking, so keeps herself in focus

there are 20 sides to every story... there are people with mental illnesses that think they are being gang stalked. could that be the case here?

Don't know why these grown adults were in tears....I mean sure I'd be worried...that i might be done for assault but I'm not gonna sit there crying over some nasty loon. Crying n panic alarms! Seems so weak

They don’t say based they said it was a true story. Fact. Netflix could be getting worried.

@judithmorganjudyteen

18 күн бұрын

If you mean Donnie typing those words, no.Donnie is a character.

its called fiction

She has many phones, in my opinion. I think she may have sent these latest texts and messages outed herself.

No intention of watching it. Heard enough about it.

People need to learn to say NO!.. Did you ask permission when you first went into the kiss or touch of your partner? Get a fucking grip & get strong

How very, very odd 😂

She helped out herself

Thing is WHO GIVES A FLYING FK.

I tried to watch this last week but it disgusted me so much & I had to turn it off. Gay sex & stalking. Sick.

Lawyer quickly dropped the ? Personality disorder 8n at the end, which in and of itself carries a lot of stigma....i feel like lawyer is overblowing things a bit

Since she may receive money from Netflix then I might sue her depending how much money she gets .It was not worth me suing her as she had no money then I will see what happens with Netflix she said something similar to this to Piers Morgan. It’s money with this lady. Allegedly.

@lks6248

17 күн бұрын

I imagine it is rightful restitution. It would be a travesty if the wrong party was able to walk of with lots of money.

She needs to get got for everything she did

Netflix PR

Wouldn't surprise me if they were both in on it for big payday.. Anyway she played the part well as SHREKS wife as Fiona..

IF IT WAS BASED ON . WHO GIVES A HOOT , THEY SAID IT WAS TRUE .; MORE BOLOCKS TO HID THE TRUTH

Gadd is a gangster and certainly gilded the lily and said it was a true story not based on a true story or his version of it.

I haven't watched it. Will not watch it.

Cloud KooKoo Land!!!! Is that a psychological term????

70% real

Ha ha ha ha ha

Never heard of it

@judithmorganjudyteen

17 күн бұрын

Count yourself lucky. 😂

700th like!