The Fall of Númenor is available now! Regular Edition: amzn.to/3h30jey Deluxe Edition: tinyurl.com/32vxm475 Audiobook: amzn.to/3Undnd2

@theOneThatWas

Жыл бұрын

I'm reading reviews from amazon and some are saying if you own the silmarillion or some other books you don't need this one. And also that this one has incomplete stories. Have you read it yet and confirm this?

@FaZeEchan

Жыл бұрын

Where would you place this in your reading order between which books?

Alan Lee is a godsend when it comes to Tolkien-related art. Him, John Howe and Ted Nasmith are to me the definitive Middle-earth artists.

@treyowen9213

Жыл бұрын

Damn right

@sourisvoleur4854

Жыл бұрын

Not Hildebrandt? /s

@richnewman

7 ай бұрын

Brothers Hildebrandt, man. Sheesh....

I love how the historians of middle earth don't consider literally reshaping the entire planet from a flat plane to a globe worthy of declaring the start of a new age, but cutting off some guy's ring is entirely worthy of it.

@historicdude7996

Жыл бұрын

Uh both those events are in the same age. The reshaping of arda and the war of the last alliance are in the second age

@bnasty5614

Жыл бұрын

@@historicdude7996 that’s the point he’s making

@historicdude7996

Жыл бұрын

@@bnasty5614 oh wait my bad i totally misread it

@spacepsycat

Жыл бұрын

Uh? Tolkien defined the ages in function of the enemies of the middle earth. The first age ended with Morgoth being thrown into the void and the second age begun with the fall of Numenor (caused by Sauron) and ended with his defeat.

@cmic_1365

Жыл бұрын

Are they, except the Valar and their followers, awared of the reshaping of Arda?

“Hobbits delighted in such things, if they were accurate; they liked to have books filled with things that they already knew, set out fair and square with no contradictions.”

@definitelynotobama6851

Жыл бұрын

Tolkien stated that not only did he consider the culture of the Hobbits to be superior to all others in the Third Age of Middle Earth, but also that the Hobbits, partially because of their culture, were also uniquely capable of resisting and healing from the effects of evil. He was also a professor of linguistics, with a focus on old English, a field with notoriously unreliable and spotty records for reference. I think it’s kind of funny how he slips a preference for particularly accurate and factual reference books into his ideal society.

I love the chapter where halbrand helps Celebrimbor forge the rings of power and Galadriel suggests to make 3. Gave me chills.

@ThreeLeafedClover

Жыл бұрын

How original.

@kingkai1763

Жыл бұрын

I love how they managed to show us the inner workings of the best immortal craftsmen in the world. I’m sure Tolkien kept that a mystery because he didn’t have the depth of mind to suggest more than one alloy be combined. Modern day smiths could learn from this show!

@magnificus8581

Жыл бұрын

@@kingkai1763 he was not aware that the metals needed to coaxed together. Thankfully tictok videos show modern smiths how to do it properly.

@Jooba1776

Жыл бұрын

That was my favorite part

@kingkai1763

Жыл бұрын

@@magnificus8581 I would not have been shocked if Halbrand had whipped out an iPhone and scrolled through a bunch of twerking girls to show Celebrimbor a 20 second smithing video on tik tok

Such a great explanation of the need for this book and its contents. I really appreciate the work you do to make Tolkien accessible to all the fans.

Glad to see that this is all Tolkien. Artwork looks amazing.

Finished it last night and I'm head over heels for it. In my opinion it is the best single narrative volume since the Children of Hurin. It works great as a collected story in the vein of the Silmarillion and, as you say, gives a very great "overview"? of the second age. So glad they made this, a great prelude to the tales of the third age we all know and love.

The perfect book for any Tolkien-accurate fan looking for a more chronological compendium of the Second Age of Middle Earth. It's amazing how many people thought this was going to be some sort of new canon as a result of Amazon's show, where on earth would they have received such a terrible rumor.

@FlynntheHuman602

Жыл бұрын

We do have a new officially licensed canon courtesy of the Tolkien estate and Amazon. It’s becoming Star Wars in that way

@Doug_Hannon

Жыл бұрын

@@FlynntheHuman602 The film series and tv show are their own thing; separate and an adaptation of the Tolkien legendarium. They don't somehow overwrite the cannon of The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. It's a nice courtesy that the Amazon show tries to stay compatible (from a lore and production design standpoint) with the the New Line film series; it's nice for casual fans who may only have watched Middle-Earth stuff. But for licensing reasons, Amazon's adaptation is separate from New Line's adaptation, which is separate from the original Tolkien legendarium. Of course if we want to split hairs, the only "Official Canon" is The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. The unfinished works that make up the rest of the legendarium are not internally consistent, as we all well know. Heck, Lord of the Rings wasn't even internally consistent with The Hobbit when it was published, which is why the Hobbit was slightly rewritten for later publications.

@imperialinquisition6006

Жыл бұрын

@@Doug_Hannon to be honest rings of power doesn’t even stick with the films cannon. Like I would totally get if they just went off the movies for the more casual viewer, but they completely ignored everything, except when trying to get people to recognise elements of the movie trilogy(obviously written greatly inferior) and the books. No clue what rings of power is actually based on apart from being it’s own universe of a badly written unwatchable mess.

@beeeeeesbury

Жыл бұрын

​@@FlynntheHuman602 what's with people's obsession with cannon and non-cannon material? Its so creatively limiting.

@FlynntheHuman602

Жыл бұрын

@@beeeeeesbury I mean we can just ask if it’s good and Rings if Power misses on that one too. If they wanted to be creatively unlimited they would invent a world and characters of their own and make it somehow interesting to watch E: honestly, I don’t understand the new obsession with buying out big franchises to use the characters as action figures for random scripts. Especially with material that has never been made into this medium before

I've heard a librarian call it a " Readers Ribbon" could have just been her name for it but I liked it.

I loved the audiobook versions of The Fall of Gondolin, Beren and Luthien, and Unfinished Tales, and this one will be read by the same person, so I am definitely getting it.

@spangelicious837

Жыл бұрын

How were the footnotes and chapter notes dealt with in the audiobooks? Or were those just ignored?

@adpirtle

Жыл бұрын

@@spangelicious837 In the books I mentioned, the text by Tolkien was read by Samuel West, while all the editorial notes were read by his father, Timothy West. As I understand it, something similar is happening with this book.

@spangelicious837

Жыл бұрын

@@adpirtle Interesting. Thanks! I've always passed on the audios because I couldn't imagine how they'd be able to handle all those notes and keep it from being confusing. Do they interrupt the text to read the notes as they're numbered in the book, or read the notes all at the end?

@adpirtle

Жыл бұрын

@@spangelicious837 They often pause the text to read notes. That's why it helps that there are two narrators. It keeps it from being too confusing.

@spangelicious837

Жыл бұрын

@@adpirtle Thanks! I think I'll stick to the books then. I prefer to read the notes when it's convenient to me.

I would love it if you made a video about making a Tolkein library. Those books you showed at the beginning, and the others like Of Beren and Luthien, are books I want. But keeping track of what's worth owning and which edition is the most authentic (and also has the most Alan Lee art) can be so confusing. For context, I once bought a David Day collection in my ignorance.

@callnight1441

Жыл бұрын

i second that

@gabetabor9776

Жыл бұрын

Please do this!

@Jed_Rock

Жыл бұрын

This would be fantastic

@frankshailes3205

Жыл бұрын

At least the colour artwork in David Day's books isn't just shades of grey.

@bencollins3438

Жыл бұрын

@@frankshailes3205 Yes!

I expect we'll get a "The Fall of Arnor" sometime in the future. Lots of scattered info on the Third Age too.

@zimbi1036

Жыл бұрын

I'd love that, because I find the war against the witch-king a really interesting topic. Also, I'd love to see Alan Lee's illustrations for that book.

@FaZeEchan

Жыл бұрын

You think that the fall of armor could be a possible nother book

@definitelynotobama6851

Жыл бұрын

It would be a pretty cool triple set to have on a bookshelf. 1) The Fall of Gondolin 2) The Fall of Numenor 3) The Fall of Arnor

@luudest

Жыл бұрын

Fall of Arnor would be great! I hope there are enough writings from Tolkien for a new book.

@insurrbution

21 күн бұрын

The Fall of Arnor could/would be cool, though I believe its covered enough within the appendices of LotR. You never know, though!

It's so well laid out. And it's so cool to see new Alan Lee artwork.

Of all the wonderful Tolkien illustrators over the decades, Alan Lee is my favorite. I remember how much fun it was to go through the centenary edition of The Lord of the Rings, my first exposure to Alan's work.

Numenor is, in my opinion, Tolkien's most poignant tale. My copy of this is on order and I anxiously await its arrival!

Great review🎉 Alan’s art looks stunning

I have to compliment you on one thing in particular. The fact that you actually SHOW the freaking book. I am an avid book tube watcher and I can't find but a handful of reviewers who actually show the books. Most either yak about or just hold up the book and show the covers. worthless. As someone with no bookstores within a 100 miles and with troublesome eyesight I hate not being able to see the font of books so I can determine if I will even be able to read it. If booktubers are going to review a book then more need to follow your lead and actually review and discuss the ACTUAL book. True of paperbacks, hardbacks, etc. Many of us are buying blind. Totally subscribed!

Tolkien is dead for 40 years and is still releasing works Thats dedication

@GenuinelyCurious120

2 ай бұрын

Can't stop won't stop

Current day prints of all of the Tolkien texts, as well as the Peter Jackson films, wouldn’t have been nearly the same without Alan Lee’s masterful talent of bringing Tolkien’s legacy to life. He’s simple a master who takes his craft as serious of a care as the words in the very texts were written with.

Great video! What bugs me about the US editions of Tolkien’s latest is that they aren’t in scale with my UK editions - a fell afoul of this when Nature of Middle-earth came out. Thankfully I’ve got my family back in England to kindly pick up the UK edition for me and have it signed by Alan and Brian at Blackwell’s, Oxford 🤩

@YYZed

Жыл бұрын

So a while back, I discovered you can just order from Amazon UK rather than Amazon US. It's great for buying unadulterated versions of books written by UK authors. IDK why, but American publishers insist on Americanizing books for the US market. You can also sometimes get books before they're released in the US.

Loved the whole interview with Brian and that book is definitely a must have. And I hope that the series adapts that drawing of the temple of Melkor with everything and that river of blood

Im off to Oxford tomorrow (11/11/22) for the signing by Alan Lee and Brian Sibley of this book as you can imagine Im very excited

Thanks for all you do! I got into tolkiens stuff a few years ago and your KZread channel has been instrumental in helping me love his world all the more! Keep doing what your doing

The music is a bit distracting but thank you for showing us the contents of the book. Alan Lee is a fantastic illustrator!

I love how you just pile up the books I couldn't stop laughing !

Was glad you showed the TOC, which has been very hard to find online elsewhere.

Thanks my friend. As I pretty much own an edition (or two) of all of JRR's works, I think this book, well edited by Brian Sibley, will be very much appreciated! note: I purchased the "History of Middle Earth" books as Christopher released each volume, so I envy the smaller footprint of your 3 Vol set, heh. Might I also suggest, you investigate the availability of Vol 13 to that set, which serves as an outstanding 'Index' to not just the "HoME" set but the other vols of the Legendarium as well. When I purchased it, it was still "print on demand" but I believe it has since garnered sufficient success for them to have pre-published editions available from Harper Collins. :) p.s. Dang, yet another Silmarillion for me to purchase (with JRR's artwork)? That's another slam-dunk.

I have Pre-Ordered, and I am excited for the same reason, We are getting a Merged together all (most) the tales of the Second Age in 1 Book!!! I haven't just looked inside, but Brian Sibley even put it in Chronological Order!!! Man Thanks Brian, Nice Touch!!!!

The years with the major events titles is REALLY cool and helpful!

I have started to listen to the audio book - it is awesome - Brian Sibley is a great narrator.

So well done Matt! This is why your Channel is so amazing! Enjoyed this. Excited to get my copy coming in the mail!

I just received my hard copy today. I’ve been listening to the audiobook and it is excellent! So grateful to those dedicated to compiling and editing Tolkien’s works so we can continue to discover and delight in the incredible depth and stories of Middle Earth.

I have just preordered mine a while back. I've always been a fan of Second Age lore.

A Tolkien book without appendices is like a Marvel film without an 'after-credits scene' (in fact, I'd contend that Marvel got that idea from Tolkien books 😜 ). I pre-ordered my copy...but it's being delivered to a place I've moved from....can't wait to go collect it!! Excited!

With this book, can you do an updated reading order?

Pre-ordered the book & am really looking forward to reading it. Already excited just watching you page through it. Should cut down on the “book-jumping” I usually do!!

@AG-io5wr

Жыл бұрын

That's why I'm not watching this video and just perusing the comments while listening. I don't want electronic viewing spoilers. Also my laptop doesn't smell anything like a book.

Ordered it. I love the idea of everything about Numenor in one place. The illustrations alone make the book worth it anyways even though I am already buying wayyy too many books and my bank account is being highly pressured right now🤣🤣🤣

Looks amazing. I did enjoy most of Christopher Tolkien's publications, but I prefer the continuous narrative approach like Children of Húrin over the History of Middle-Earth style presented in the subsequent releases. This looks more like the former.

Thanks for the great presentation! Can’t wait to get my hands in a copy!

"Bookmark string" is the technical term coined in 967 for monks to track passages of the Bible for the next service. Just kidding; book mark or placemark is often used, but to my knowledge no literal name. I'm excited for this book! Thanks for going through it. It'll be nice to not have to jump between books to reference the age.

@BertoBerg

Жыл бұрын

And they did let you know what that is actually called 🙃

@bobdelliott

Жыл бұрын

According to Wikipedia, the ribbon is called a bookmark: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookmark. I know, it’s not what I was expecting either.

You should do a collection tour of all your books

Book looks great , the illustrations are marvelous bonus

Matt you always add so much humour to your vids! Always the best dad jokes on show. Thanks for the review

I can't wait to read this was gonna ask it for a Christmas present but I can't wait till then 😘💜

@LaughThruLife

Жыл бұрын

🤭me too🤍

@beccaboo3040

Жыл бұрын

@@LaughThruLife yea 🤭🤗😁😘💜

@jecca678

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha I was thinking the same!

I wonder if we will ever have a reworked Silmarillion on the basis of all that was unearthed in HoME. From a philological point of view, Christopher Tolkien has always been more a geneticist than an ideal manuscript guy, but audiences expect complete and coherent works. This kind of job by Sibley on the narrower case of Numenor is suggesting to me that the publisher wants to test whether “clean” editions of the legendarium still sell, even though they do not provide new materials.

@arthurwkayalle6213

Жыл бұрын

The Silmarillion should have the last 2 chapters removed, focusing on the silmarils. And they could make a single book just for ainulindale and valaquenta, Full of illustrations more than any other (like Hp by Jim Kay), and there could also be one for the 3 age (before the Hobbit, and between the Hobbit and lotr). And one for everything after the 3 age

@martinmera7681

Жыл бұрын

That’s exactly what I thought when I read Unfinished Tales and later The Nature of Middle-Earth. There should be a revised version of the Silmarillion, since many things changed in Tolkien’s later writings.

@mrs.manrique7411

Жыл бұрын

The problem with doing this is that there’s just too many times Tolkien changed his mind. Many of his final thoughts contradict the rest of the story he had already written and didn’t have time to change. It would be almost impossible without such a published work seeming like a fan fiction piecing his contradictions together and making them make sense. Gil-Galad’s backstory alone amplifies this problem, as well as the problem of Sauron setting aside/carrying his ring from Numenor (which one is it!?) Fan-fiction is fine, I guess, but then others would have their complaints about which of their favorite versions of the stories were left out. 🤷‍♀️

@nohbuddy1

Жыл бұрын

@@mrs.manrique7411 Yeah there is no *final* version because he never wrote one

Thank You, Nerd of the Rings, for your thoughtfully put-together recommended list and thoughtful elegantly edited presentation AND your setup is nicely understated yet rich in content! Going with your previous overall recommended reading order with tweaks of course.

So now that this book is released, what would you say is the "reading order" for the middle earth universe for someone who wants to start chronologically? The Hobbit and LOTR aside, from my understanding the reading order (that some people suggested to me) was: 1. The Silmarillion (up until the chapter Of the Fifth Battle) 2. The Children of Hurin 3. The Silmarillion (start again from the chapter Of the Ruin of Doriath) 4. Beren and Luthien 5. The Fall of Gondolin 6. Appendices of The Return of the King And then continue with History of Middle Earth series, Unfinished Tales and Letters of JRR Tolkien if you crave more. How does that list change with this book being released?

I am looking forward to picking this up! Thanks for the review 😊

Thank you for putting the link in the chat👍

I hadn't seen your face until recently, and I have to say, I'm shocked that you're not NEARLY as Nerdy as I expected. I have always watched these envisioning the face of Richard Langly ala Lone Gunman/X-Files, and here you are a totally normal guy!! This is like by FAR the best Tolkien channel, and one of my all-time favs on KZread. I've seen them all.

Do you think that the showrunners of The Rings of Power should read the book before filming season two ???

I can't wait for this book! What future books would you like to see that are similar to this one?

@sarbo2335

Жыл бұрын

Sauron's wacky adventures in Mordor

Might get this for the Alan Lee artwork and the convenience. I already own all the books in that great honkin' stack!

Where would you place this in your reading order? Would this be a good primer for the Silmarillion?

@istari0

Жыл бұрын

I would think more the other way around as most of The Silmarillion covers what happened before the 2nd Age.

My reading list keeps getting bigger the more videos I watch haha. Book looks great and awesome you got to interview him for the second time. I'll need to go back and watch your Tolkien reading video and plug this one in there.

Really looking forward to this !

Hey Nerd totally unrelated.. but ANDOR is so freaking good! Luthen's speech, damn!

@NerdoftheRings

Жыл бұрын

So…freaking…good.

cant wait to pick it up

I really hope that Amazon can get the rights to what Sauron says to Ar-Pharazon in The Akallabeth. Some of the best, most chilling lines Tolkien ever wrote.

@tilmanreiss

Жыл бұрын

Anything Tolkien is wasted on Amazon.

@pjetrs

Жыл бұрын

i sincerely hope amazon gets a restraining order for anything tolkien related.

@Parmetheus

9 ай бұрын

I'm always confused by people who don't want the adaptors to get the rights to use the source material and then complain about it not being lore accurate.

as someone who owns damn near every tolkien related book including HoME. i wish all NEW content in future prints could be distilled out of many of the publications

Great job reviewing this book it looks awesome! Maybe sometime you could give us a tour of all your books in the Nerdcave

Have mine pre-ordered and set aside at my local bookstore and I cannot wait.

Just downloaded a copy on Audible. Can't wait to dig into it!

DEATH BATTLE is having a fight between Sauron and the Lich King from Warcraft this Monday. Do you have any thoughts, and would you consider doing a live reaction to it?

No matter what one thinks of The Rings of Power, this would (in a way) be the book that they're using as the blueprint for the show. Putting that out there for anyone who discovers Tolkien THROUGH the show - much like how many discovered Tolkien through the LotR films.

Just got this book for Christmas and I'm so excited to start reading

Quick Question matt? how far has your hiking journey gotten! i remember we got a short about your medal before but just wondering where you are at now!

@NerdoftheRings

Жыл бұрын

Ah! Our fellowship completed it! You can't see it in the background of this video bc the shield is covering them, but I have all the medals hanging in the background.

@nugget_man1821

Жыл бұрын

@@NerdoftheRings THATS AWESOME!

It seems nice and those illustrations are honestly a wonderful addition! However it still feels a bit redundant once one already has all of Tolkien’s books.

In 2994, during the settling of Balin's Colony, they were attacked by an onslaught of orcs.[3] Óin led a group to the west side of the city hoping to find escape through the Doors of Durin, but instead he found the water up to the doors where the Watcher in the Water killed him. The Dwarves were trapped, and wiped out. Wasn't the door open at the time of Oin´s death?

@Manuel73618

Жыл бұрын

I think he opened the door from the inside, which is easy.

@haraldkjall4561

Жыл бұрын

@@Manuel73618 I just reacted to something said in the video. That the doors were never opened until the fellowship came.

@istari0

Жыл бұрын

@@haraldkjall4561 The doors were easy to open from inside but they couldn't be seen from the outside or physically opened from the outside.

Thanks for the video. I can’t wait to get mine. What’s dissatisfying about Fall of Gondolin, Beren and Luthian, and History is how they’re edited. The different versions and sketches are separated by commentary and there’s no chronological narrative. I want to know if this reads as a continuous narrative or as an academic analysis of Tolkien’s work.

Thanks for a great video. I'm excited for these new books. I definitely want The Fall Of Numenor and the new edition of The Silmarillion. That's a nice cover on The Unfinished Tales. Is that a U.S. or UK edition? I actually have the first U.S. edition, first print of Unfinished Tales.

A must have book, thanks for this review. waiting for the new (Silmarillion) book review.

it is a bound bookmark or more commonly a ribbon marker, which is most often attached to the book by being adhered to the head of the spine and brought out under the endband, if there was one.

Definately adding this to my collection!

@theadventureofthefellowship

Жыл бұрын

Same here

Man, Tolkien is writing BANGERS nowadays

Thank you! I noticed that you have the latest edition of The Silmarillion, illustrated by Tolkien. I am itching to have my own copy of the book, but I am trying to choose which edition to go for. The options being - this one, the 2021 Illustrated or 2021 Illustrated Deluxe. The 2021 ones contain Ted Smith's artwork, and around 49 of them I hear. I am leaning towards a simple thought - for text Tolkien, but for artwork go to Ted Nasmith, or Alan Lee. Would you mind suggesting one way or the other, please?

Looking at the gorgeous illustrations highlights for me the utter poverty of Amazon's version of the Second Age. let's not even go there with how the substance of the TV series subverts Tolkien's philosophy!

Bought it, read it, loved it

I love getting 'new' Tolkien books. I remember reading the Silmarillion and loving the story of Beren and Luthien but getting the book 'Beren and Luthien' was more than worth it.

Thanks for the great review! You convinced me to buy it

Is the story of Tal-Elmer from HoME included in this? It was unfinished but I always liked that story, seeing the Numenoreans from an outside perspective was super interesting, couldn’t see it in the chapter list and not sure where it would fit chronologically

So...assuming one doesn't own copies of either Unfinished Tales or this book...which would you recommend getting first.

Thanks for the great content!

The nice part about buying books preordered is they come wrapped rather than just open as the others do (other than the Bookset).

I have mine preordered from indigo, can’t wait 🎉

I'm a casual fan so this might be a silly question, but you mentioned a lot of these books are compiled works. So is it all stuff that was previously printed aka the Silmarillion and Lord of the Rings apendices just restructured?

Thanks for the in-depth review! Coming off of Rings of Power I'm suddenly keen on looking into some of the extra lore books for the first time (I have only read The Hobbit, LOTR and The Silmarillion) and this sounds like a good place to start.

It would be nice to see the top of the book as well (so we can see how the book is bound; with 'signatures' or just perfect glue bound, etc.).

Are you picking up the new illustrated Silmarillion book? I would love a review on that one as well

@NerdoftheRings

Жыл бұрын

Indeed! That is actually the copy of The Silmarillion I show in the beginning and reference at the end. My deluxe edition is supposed to arrive tomorrow, so I'm hoping to record both regular and deluxe edition in the same video. :)

@bradylewis9698

Жыл бұрын

@@NerdoftheRings I wrote that comment before watching the video and now I feel dumb now that I'm finally watching the video. Lol

This is great! Thank you for this video!

Bookmark ribbons are called tassels, by the way.

Ive heard some people call them Tillys (bookmark string) but i believe theyre just called bookmarks 😂 i prefer tilly though.

I´m currently reading the first book of the franchise, the hobbit. I thought for years about getting in and now finally I am at it! Enjoying it so far really, since I´m a huge fan of fantasy lore. I already bought the Trilogy to continue after the hobbit. Can´t wait for it to start reading. Btw do you have a recommendation for me in wich order I should read the books?

That is a great helpful book! And Illustrated by Alan Lee! I wasn’t expectante that! Now Matt, what is your suggestion about In which place among the other books it would be better for reading? Right after Silmarillion or after the three big tales?

How would this release change your recommend Tolkien reading order?

@NerdoftheRings

Жыл бұрын

I think I’ll have to redo that vid! My initial thought is this would slide in after The Silmarillion.

Thank you for this review. I wonder if this book changes how the beginner to the expanded world of LOTR's first explores the second age? Is this book the equivalent then of how "Children of Húrin", "Beren And Lúthien", and "The Fall Of Gondolin" fills out the First age from the Silmarillion? (Am I right about those being first age stories? Out of those books,, so far I only have the Silmarillion, but I am working on collecting what I need to best explore the Tolkien world after the Hobbit and LOTR's.) The Fall of Númenor seems to be the most complete, and in chronological order, of the Second age all in one book expanding on the Númenor chapter is the Silmarillion from various other texts. So my biggest question I guess is, does this make "Unifinished Tales" unnecessary for the first time collector as an essential now? I realize that long term fans already have Unfinished Tales, and they might be asking the question the other way around. But I don't have a good copy of Unfinished Tales, and wonder what might be in that, that isn't now included in "The Fall of Númenor.? Is there anything in the Unfinished Tales that isn't included in any of the books I mentioned covering the first, second, or even the third age? Does "The Fall of Númenor" change how essential Unfinished Tales is to understanding or appreciating Middle Earth before the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings?

I actually pre ordered the audiobook and it just finished downloading! Definitely will listen to it next after the Children of Húrin, so I'm guessing they don't have a audiobook of the nature of middle-earth but one called the tales of the perilous realms. Is that somewhat the same?

@emdesign8766

Жыл бұрын

Completely different. Tales of the Perilous Realm are a collection of short stories mostly unrelated to Middle Earth. Only a short collection of poems pertaining to Tom Bombadil. No plans for an audiobook version for the Nature of Middle Earth are planned so far.

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@@emdesign8766 ahhhhh I gotcha, thank you for the clarification!

Great review.

I have US editions of the Great Tales as well as Tales from the Perilous Realm. This book measures 9 inches tall instead of 8.5 (as the other books are) which is a bummer. Also the cover doesn't look glossy like the other US covers. This is going to mess up my shelf a little. Had I a little more knowledge I would have bought Harper Collins to begin with. Now that William and Morrow have taken over they've slightly adjusted their production from HMH.