Who could partner Pierre Gasly in 2025? kzread.info/dash/bejne/emFkpZKyqde_fLw.html

@alainszyller615

6 ай бұрын

Yuki Tsunoda ? Sergio Perez ?

@O530CarrisPT_C2

6 ай бұрын

Maybe Carlos Sainz Jr.

@lukeearthcrawler896

6 ай бұрын

No one. Both Gasly and Ocon are big team rejects. The first from RedBull, the second from Mercedes. Alpine is another team that fancies itself as a title contender. But unlike McLaren, Alpine doesn't have the driver pairing to do so even if they build a competitive car. Alpine should have kept Alonso and Piastri, but decided to go with Ocon and Gasly. They passed on a 2x world champion and the biggest talent to join F1 in the last 5 years for two rejects. If I were Alpine, I would try to sign Leclerc. Give Charles $30-40m/yr to lure him to Alpine. Then you can pair him with Gasly if they want. Until they do this, I will not consider Alpine as a credible title contender.

@JackPecker911

6 ай бұрын

Liam Lawson

@alainszyller615

6 ай бұрын

@@JackPecker911 would make sense, yes

I'm really happy for pierre he managed to make use of his talents... to me it's fascinating how all the "young-generation drivers" are growing from season to season and you really can see the development since the start of their career.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

It's clear that Pierre's talent is putting in the consistent results in a car you wouldn't expect to do that well in. 2021 was all about that...like "How did Pierre get 4th?!"

I think the behavior of Ocon on track recently highlights very well how all of this is going right now. His priority is looking in the mirrors to defend from Gasly, which is why he crashed in Piastri in COTA.

@MikkelL03

6 ай бұрын

Ocons priority is only to finish before his teammate, that is all he cares about. It doesn't matter if the 2. driver is Fernando or Gasly, his only goal is to finish ahead off them. This mentality leads too alot off crashes. Either himself crashing or him making both Alpines crash.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He shouldn't be afraid of Gasly and instead focus on his race.

@The_ZeroLine

6 ай бұрын

@@LawVSBut he is. That’s the whole point.

@timmynicolas8729

6 ай бұрын

Yeah or another thing . Understeer. You guys love to read stuff that doens't exists into simple stuff

Kinda crazy how Esteban held his own pretty well against Fernando. I think it goes to show just how much Pierre has improved since his disastrous half season at Red Bull.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Fernando had some very bad luck with the unreliability which makes Esteban's performance less impressive but this year has also highlighted Pierre's ability to bank consistent points finishes at any team.

@Ticklestein

6 ай бұрын

I think Pierre just really got “rebuilt” by AT, and now is taking that to a next level and somewhat changes/“rebuilds” Alpine now as well.

@Silonomono

6 ай бұрын

Fighting with lion's leaves you with fatigue

@LPChipi

6 ай бұрын

I think it just shows how unlucky Fernando was, more than anything else

@eleazar5942

6 ай бұрын

Tbh, Alonso had so many dnf’s last year, you couldn’t even compare the 2. But in general I would say Alonso was the better driver, the race where I started to not like Ocon was the Saudi race last year, the way he was fighting with Alonso, his own teammate was crazy!

So happy for Pierre getting the coverage he deserves this. He was best of the rest (Behind the top 5 teams, long time in front of Stroll and Piastri) and was under the radar. One of my favorites this season

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He's definitely given Alpine some steady results and some good feedback for them to go with into 2024.

Esteban is a good driver but he needs to get his issues fixed with getting in trouble and not taking any blame. I don't remember a time where he said "Yes, it's my fault" ever.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He definitely needs a lesson in humility.

@user-wb1ww1py2f

6 ай бұрын

he does on french tv which is really weird as it seems he never does on english broadcast

@cactusttp_5520

6 ай бұрын

Have you ever heard Verstappen or Alonso saying that ? That’s how great driver act, gotta get over it.

@QuimFreecss

6 ай бұрын

Nah, I don't think he is a good driver. I think he can be pretty quick, but good drivers don't do the horrendous, dangerous defenses that Ocon displays especially with his team mates. To be a good driver you don't only need to be quick, you need to be able to drive in traffic, attack and defend positions properly. And Ocon is not willing to accept that despite doing proper and clean defenses, sometimes you still get overtaken and that causes him to behave like a hazard on track. If he was able to accept getting overtaken, he would grow a lot as a driver and consolidate himself as a great midfield driver who can lead teams.

@mrmathh3680

6 ай бұрын

​@@cactusttp_5520the problem is: he's not a great driver, hell, he might not even be a C-Tier driver...

been a pierre fan since 2020, glad to see him finally get some props. I’m just curious who they would replace ocon with if they wanted a change

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Well, you can watch the following video for my feelings on Mick Schumacher perhaps...but other options could be Victor Martins or Theo Pourchaire.

@presceltolives2076

6 ай бұрын

@LawVS neither of those drivers would perform as well as Ocon tho. If Ocon had a more reliable car this year then he’d be either matched with Gasly or could even be ahead a bit. So… not really sure about the purpose of this video you made

@davi66urtin

6 ай бұрын

@@presceltolives2076shut up

@andrewcarter9649

6 ай бұрын

Next years silly season is going to be crazy as most of the seats at the top 5 teams are up for negotiation, plus with Audi coming in soon and Alpine closing in on 10 years of mediocrity I suspect they may well have to make do with whoevers left on the market which could end up being Ocon's saving grace as the better options may well have just said no.

@exoduss613

6 ай бұрын

​@@presceltolives2076yea they wouldn't deliver sure, but it's better to lose a few points than having to replace parts on both cars cause ocon decided to 'defend' againts his teammate

11:22 That’s not exactly what he said. In fact, when asked by Max: « Why did you overtake me », He responded: « Because I was faster than you [at that moment] ». Basicly, he talks about the fact that being on fresher tyre than Max at the moment, he was indeed faster than Max. Obviously, if you change things to make them sound your way, you are going to make those fan base happy.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I was paraphrasing, probably should've made that clearer.

Ocon has been doing fine though. The two Alpine drivers has been quite evenly matched when it comes to pace. Reliability issues and penalties have plagued both of their drivers. They have good drivers. We just want Alpine to get their marbles together and fix their boat anchor of a PU. Nice vid by the way.Subbed!

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He's been OK but Pierre has managed to get the team on side on a calm keel.

@andrewcarter9649

6 ай бұрын

Gasly has had a notable string of good results post summer break where Ocon hasn't. Esteban can only really point to the Singapore retirement as bad luck while Pierre definitely appears to have gotten comfortable with the team and is getting consistently better with the car.

The reason Gasly does not get another chance at Red Bull is that he had an argument with Adrian Newey and even shouted at Adrian.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I thought so. Clearly there had to be some pushback from staff there. But surely they could patch things up, but oh well. Pierre is doing great anyways.

@GloomGaiGar

6 ай бұрын

source please

As a RBR and an Alpine enjoyer, I cant hide but say it out loud, you made very happy and raised hopes for Pierre and Alpine camp 🥹

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I'm just pleased Pierre can show that his sleeper points hauls are a transferable skill.

Man your videos always a banger. Keep uploading brother!

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, pal! I shall do my best.

I just binge watched like 15 of your videos over the past 2 days! What an amazing channel, 1 million coming soon

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! But I am happy slowly developing my videos.

I'm glad Gasly is finding a team where he can strive at and be a team leader, he's changed so much since his 2019 mid-season Red Bull demotion.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Alphatauri was a good place to learn without pressure...eventually.

Esteban showed today in Vegas why he is the number 1 driver at alpine and miles apart from Gasly😂😂👑

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

By ignoring team orders and messing around with Max again? Hardly a classy way to get results. But yes, he did get 4th whilst Gasly's battery decided to call it a night.

@danked6731

6 ай бұрын

@@LawVS ignoring team orders lol if he obeyed they would of both been sitting ducks with the rest catching up. Gasly just needs to call it a night and stop moaning

@Orangensigma

6 ай бұрын

@@danked6731salty ocon fan who isn’t able to accept the truth

This aged like fine milk.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Ocon still didn't handle himself in the best of graces and Gasly had a poor case of battery-itis.

In regards to Pierre: Wow what a roller coaster this lad has had! To go from Red Bull Junior, to getting to drive for the big team, to being demoted (IMO before he could truly get settled in), somehow recover to bounce back with another solid stint at AT, just to be faced with Alpine being the highest up the grid he could go (a team that historically isn't a dream destination for drivers). Yet through it all, he has shown gobs of talent and charisma. With him being a French driver and all, I really hope that he can make Alpine/Renault his forever home and help lead them back to the front of the mid-field at least. In regards to Esteban: Just like Gasly, the man has had quite an interesting journey already given how young he still is. Unfortunately, as opposed to Gasly, I think Ocon has given F1 teams a bit of scorched earth syndrome. I couldn't see him ever going back to what is now Aston Martin. If his contract isn't renewed by Alpine, I would consider that door closed as well. IMO he hasn't shown enough consistency to be deserving of a top seat, so there goes Red Bull, Ferrari, and Mercedes. At this point, his only options if released from Alpine would be to vie for a seat with Haas maybe? Feels like his attitude in the car and in the garage has caused this though. Which is sad, since like you said, in the press and in public, he seems very charming.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Very fair takes!

I gotta say, not having been much of a Pierre Gasly fan, the guy has definitely brought it this year to the point that those ten super licence points have faded away (in memory and significance). Those top 3 performances in the monsoon conditions of the Spa sprint and Zandvoort show some true class. Definitely most rehabilitated driver for me. (Being less of a smarmy git than the guy in the other garage helps too)

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Precisely. Pierre has shown that he is good at a non-Red Bull team, that his skills are easily transferable.

@TheFinalMeowntdown

6 ай бұрын

@@LawVS I’m honestly starting to wonder if anyone can truly thrive in that team/conglomerate of teams except the Dutch alien and the toothy Aussie. 🫣 Jury’s out on Liam Lawson. It would be a crying shame for them to ruin his career as well. I’m dying to see him reunited with Albon at Williams, but that seems unlikely at this point.

Now this aged terribly 💀💀

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

True but Pierre is still the better team leader at the moment.

@Dr.soulgroov

6 ай бұрын

@@LawVS Maybe, this has to be debated without any bias. But, I think it is a mistake to make a video about a driver's performance while the season is not over. Especially when the video is named : "The Fall of Esteban Ocon" with his teammate smiling. Pierre has nothing to be smiling about since he is losing too much ground on Stroll who now has a car that clearly sits 5th in the rankings. Now that Ocon is only 4 points away of Gasly, the name of the video after this race should become : "the comeback of Esteban Ocon". But since the video was made before the end of the season, it won't change. It feels like you had the urge to trash on Ocon, as if you couldn't wait the end of the season to have an opinion on a driver's all year performance.

As I've said in my previous Team Enstone rant (as a long suffering fan), I want Ocon out. The guy just strives for aggravation - almost seems to live for it which I've said when he got in that this was going to be a nightmare. If Pierre can quietly go about his work and rack up a few points here and there, that's what's needed. I'm rooting for him.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I think he got away with it as his skills are good enough and served the team well when it was in flux. But Pierre has given them a sturdy leader with consistency and a more amiable persona in the team. Very important in a time of change. Ocon hasn't stepped up really and yes, his demeanour isn't ideal anymore.

thanks for another awesome video! keep it up!

I love how in your content you cover all f1 teams not just the top ones.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I'm sure folks want a mix of every team. It's not just the top 5.

Aaaaand I have found my new favourite f1 content creater Thank you for the great video!

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

ocon has been beaten by every teammate of his. His aggression is completely unjustified

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I still find it funny that Gasly outscored Ocon in a weaker (but more reliable) car in 2021.

@raunakroy1738

2 ай бұрын

​@@LawVSweaker car? Mate stop watching Dts and instead watch races... Alpha Tauri were easily better than Alpine and Mclaren

Gasly seems to always fly under the radar. No one seems to notice him, no attention. But the guy has made a career of driving back marker cars into the points, sometimes even podiums. I genuinely believe Gasly is possibly the most talented driver on the grid.

@luisnavarro5298

6 ай бұрын

Yall can’t praise drivers without going overboard, isn’t it enough to say he’s ONE of the most talented drivers on the grid instead of THE most talented?

@IRIEVOLTx

6 ай бұрын

@@luisnavarro5298 I diddnt say he is, I believe, it’s my opinion. And we have seen what he can do in bad cars. I’d love to see him in a front runner. (That isn’t tuned so finely to Max no one else can even turn in the thing).

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He's like a modern day Fisichella. A guy who can get something out of a meh car.

I love esteban's story of being the poorest driver of the grid who had to struggle race-to-race to be in contention for F1, but man he doesnt make it easy to like him

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He definitely is a good driver and I'm glad he's made an impression...could do with being less cantankerous though.

Some of the points in this video were questionable at best. Context was completely ignored in multiple instances ie. points scored for Toro Rosso/ AT. Using cockpit size adjustment as evidence of car development going in his direction also baffled me. There were a couple other instances that were confusing. I do believe that there is a meaningful discussion to be had regarding this driver matchup but I found the video extremely incoherent.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I understand your feedback and appreciate it. I try to be a little more casual and approachable with my points and I'm trying to convey that Pierre is a great choice for a team that is looking for stability in a team of great upheaval.

I really don’t like Ocon. Alpine lost Piastri because they were set on keeping Ocon and were trying to resign Alonso, offering no guarantees to Piastri that he’d ever have a seat. I’m glad you pointed out Ocon’s behavior during the shove. I’m not a huge Max fan in terms of personality, and Max was starting to get in Ocon’s face, but Ocon first put his hands on Max before pushing him away. Ocon seems like he can be a real d***head. Alpine could have had Alonso on a multi year basis AND a young star under his wing (it’s debatable if that’s a good thing) if they weren’t set on the toxin that is Ocon.

@1greenMitsi

6 ай бұрын

absolutely right, whoever manages contracts at alpine really stuffed up handing Ocon a long term contract. They couldve had piastri and alonso in the cars for 2023!! one of the strongest driver pairings on the grid + piastri under alonso's wing

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

They definitely played fast and loose with contracts. Ocon was locked in .

@kevinhekers2380

6 ай бұрын

Piastri had a deal with Williams to drive for them on loan for 2 years he wanted a competitive car and signed for McLaren

@timmynicolas8729

6 ай бұрын

​@@1greenMitsioh yeah . Fernando mentoring a young exciting driver that worked out very very well last time round

@1greenMitsi

6 ай бұрын

@@timmynicolas8729 that was 15 years ago dude

Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things also who do you think will replace him? In my opinion Mick would be a great choice as his father was in the same team

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I think either Mick Schumacher, Charles Leclerc, Victor Martins or Theo Pourchaire.

@alias_aka_alias

6 ай бұрын

I also wouldnt be surprised to see Mick at Alpine (especially after testing their LmpH car) and Ocon in another Mercedes Project

@LathropLdST

6 ай бұрын

​@@LawVSJack Doohan does not exist then 💀

Agree 100% it's great to see Gasly finding his form he and Albon are two drivers deserving of a team that'll focus on them imo. Ocons lack of accountability will be the downfall of his career

Crazy to think that both driver have similar situation in the past that both of them kick our by the team, RB for Pierre and Racing Point for Esteban. But I think at that time Pierre had better enviroment sorrounding him. He had a teammate that have similar experience in Danii Kvyatt, and more importantly he had a team manager with young diver experience in Franz Tost, and look what Pierre able to do in the right environment.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Yes. Pierre quietly got on with the job and learnt a lot at Alphatauri. This is the manifestation of that time.

I’m surprised gasly gave that position up without much of a fight in Japan, I get he wasn’t able to keep his side of the agreement but he built up a big enough gap I think he deserved to keep it

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I think he rationalised it as being the lesser of two evils. If he had not yielded the position, he would've been labelled as "not being a team player" or "selfish"...even though it was over 1 point. Sure, he had a tantrum but he at least kept it to the car and cooled off after getting out of it.

All we need is a more competitive/reliable Alpine next season, and sparks will definitely fly between Ocon and Gasly a la Ocon Checo Force India.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

It's getting there. They're gaining more staff and seriously tackling their fundamental issues with Viry and Enstone.

Never stop posting ❤

These Red Bull scouts are onto something. Eventhough they aren't driving for Red Bull, they are a force of change - a welcoming one - within other teams. Sainz, Albon, Gasly.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Yes, they do pick good drivers...it's just they can't seem to get through them fast enough.

I am glad that it is working out for Pierre, at the time I thought it was more of a sidestep than a step up, especially with how the driver market and Alpine were.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

After last year this is a step up for sure.

Excellent analysis! Spot on from my viewpoint.

Really love your videos man! I believe that Esteban has been extremely unlucky this season and the fact that he couldn't establish himself as a number 1 led him pushing over the limit so many times. Just remember how well he did against Alonso!

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Remember that Alonso had a duff car for 2022 especially, he could've had more points than Ocon had that not been the case.

@saqib_999

6 ай бұрын

@@LawVS So did Ocon, Vettel could have over 10 championships if he joined Mercedes instead of Ferrari but thats not the truth

Really happy for Gasly that he's managed to settle at Alpine, his performances recently and his conduct shows that he's a great mature driver and deserves the credit that he's getting to jump into that team and to deliver the results that the team needs. As for Ocon no doubt he's a good driver and seems a nice person off track, on track he's way to aggressive some times which doesn't help his reputation, no wonder he has had bad relationships with teammates and drivers in the past. Feel he needs to improve and change that otherwise he could be in danger of getting dropped especially when Gasly has jumped in that team and starting to become the Number 1 driver at that team and with plenty of other options that Alpine could chose from.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Pierre has definitely become a leader at Alpine after his successful time doing so at Alphatauri

I’ve never liked Ocon, he’s always seemed to be a terrible teammate, fighting his own teammates harder than anyone else on the track and ruining things for their team. Toto never should’ve saved him…

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He seems to rail against those who are better than him or spiral into depression or bleakness when Daniel floored him.

Wouldn't it be Gasly's re-re-rise? The guy is the freaking phoenix of F1

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I think Lewis's slogan applies to Pierre as well.

Well said. Gasly has really impressed. I honeslty thought he was going to explode with Ocon, but this has not been the case as you so pointed out. After his brief stint at red bull, he has come back stronger than ever. I think it was a good grounding experience for him exasperated by good self reflection and commitment to his profession. I hope he is able to find a good home with Alpine.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He has been very restrained. Sure they had two coming together moments but those were quickly defused; so points for Ocon too for not starting something.

Pierre more than deserves to be the number 1 at a team. Hes a really talented driver and he's a genuinely good human being. Which just underlins all of Estie Besties worst qualities. Mainly arrogance and childishness. Him telling his team to warn Haas that he's coming, and taking like 16 laps to do it. And by "it" I mean pass a Haas... And everything with Fernando in Brazil. I can't even remember the last time I heard something positive about Ocon, and not some controversy or a penalty.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I think he's really making a case for that at Alpine. The car development is slowly heading his direction and if he can get that shorter cockpit he's been after, that could really make a difference. More comfort equals more performance.

@timmynicolas8729

6 ай бұрын

The Haas thing is not that deep bro . If Nando had said the same y'all would call him a legend

This didn't age well

@Orangensigma

6 ай бұрын

Get some more information why pierre dropped down the order

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Pierre had battery issues and older tyres which mean he fell down the order. Had his battery not given out on him, he probably would've been closer to Ocon.

I love your passion towards this sport ❤

As a fan of Esteban Ocon, I think you’re right. Pierre’s mentality is just so much more suited to Alpines needs. That to the point where I think it’s time for Esteban to look elsewhere, before he becomes the second driver for that team.

@kinggames4668

6 ай бұрын

Esteban isn’t first driver material.

@speedyplayz23

6 ай бұрын

@@kinggames4668 Neither of them are first driver material tbh

@O530CarrisPT_C2

6 ай бұрын

Maybe Ocon could go to WEC - not necessarily to Alpine, but even to Toyota or to another team.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Either that or work with the team and not try and best Pierre all the time. Do his own thing.

@Mark-vn7et

6 ай бұрын

I seriously thought ocon’s only fan is his mom………..exactly let him look somewhere else, far far away from any track or even a competitive sport

Ocon should watch this

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He won't though haha.

That part at the end with Mercedes needing a driver aged interestingly

I don't like Ocon at all. But pierre is so much more genuine, and i actually want him to succeed. It makes me happy that he is beating ocon : )

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I feel like Alpine will do well keeping Pierre and rallying around him in their time of change.

pierre in the thumbnail? im here for it

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Welcome!

@DRUMM3RX7

6 ай бұрын

Same here

There are two kinds of Formula One drivers. There are the dominant variety, freelanders that will skip from team to team, trying desperatly to find the team building a car that can win an F1 championship. Then there's the much more rare variety, drivers that believe in a team and stick with them even in tough times. All drivers choose their variety based upon their own circumstances--for different reasons. Pierre Gasly has chosen to stick with Alpine because he knows the team will reward loyalty. The more pragmatic way of looking at it is that no one but a rookie would sign with Alpine right now, so you have a guaranteed seat in F1 by sticking with the team that's down on its luck merely because you have more valuable experience.

thank you my guy, generational jinx for this weekend oconhive will not forget you

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

The Alpine had been too reliable lately. Back on form then.

Ocon seems to have a bit of baggage surrounding him. Gasly has gone on record stating that he and Ocon used to be pretty close but once Gasly started getting results in their junior years Ocon became more hostile and that's what ruined their friendship. Ocon I don't think has ever really responded to any of these claims which both doesn't substantiate them but doesn't disprove them either and I'm sure I remember reading other articles years back that suggest other drivers in that generation of juniors had similar issues with him. Given his occasionally bullish on-track nature and how his partnerships with his teammates always seems to deteriorate over time it's hard to not believe that this is the case to a certain extent.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

What does that tell you, even on a surface level? That as long as you're not as good as him, Ocon will be your bestie. That's not a real friend. And from the team's point of view, if Ocon falls behind his teammate, it's only going to make him angrier which is something Alpine doesn't need right now. They need passionate drivers, but they also need drivers who aren't going to get the red mist.

@VeggehGaming

6 ай бұрын

Exactly! There's always going to be that competitive friction between some drivers, especially those competing against each other for titles, but there's usually also always this level of camaraderie between them as well, especially with teammates (unless that title friction bubbles over). But it's not something I've tended to see from Estie a lot for whatever reason, though maybe I'm just missing it? I think maybe Alpine might give him more time due to both the French connection and perhaps repay some loyalty for the years he's spent. But he's going to have to get out of this funk at some point otherwise yea, he'll lose the team's support to perhaps his personal greatest career rival which sounds like it's one of his own making.

first thing, this video might not have aged very well, secondly ocon is a nice guy, could say opposite on the track, he needs to fix his mentality not change it completely but, i believe its his mentality that brought him into f1 while others had quite a lot money for it and also, ocon hardly misses opportunities(sometimes better on teammates) something alpine might just need until they find their next superstar(well.. if they dont lose him to another team)

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Ocon DOES need to fix his mindset because his aggression will soon be a turn-off for Alpine as they try to reset.

I Think the biggest advantage pierre has is his calm and collectiveness

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

That is definitely an advantage and something I think Alpine appreciates at this time.

Liked by Pierre Gasly.

Well, Mick seems to be going to Alpine in WEC. Esteban really doesnt have that much time if Mick does well. Especially because Mick is actually kinda similar to Gasly being a measured and mild mannered driver. And he's the son of a 7 time WDC. He's also shown some really promising pace on races lkke Austria in 2022. Alpine could really get tired of having Ocon's reputation on their side. All he had left was his experience and trying to be a team leader and it seems like Gasly just took that from him.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Which is great for Mick. WEC is not a backwater series. He can make a big impact there, like his father did before coming to F1 when he was in sportscars.

@harmsy1296

6 ай бұрын

Mick being the son of a 7 time WDC is honestly the only thing that ever got him into F1 in the first place. And there also probably will never be anything else, that could get him into it again.

@AnimaDweller

6 ай бұрын

@@harmsy1296 sooo winning F3 and F2 is not worth anything to you? Big deal, he has a famous surname. Get over it, the guy can drive and he earned the chances he's gotten.

@harmsy1296

6 ай бұрын

​@@AnimaDweller He is definitely a good driver, but not F1 level nowadays. The standards just have gotten extremely high and there are a lot of better options than Mick right now.

i forgot AT were once Minardi.their late 90s ''who's that sponsor..?'' liveries were classic!

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Haha, new liveries for every race!

As to where ocon could end up - Haas. Their turnover rate is crazy, and they have a threat to Hulkenberg already. Ocon is a race winner and has recent podiums. He would likely be an upgrade in the eyes of the Haas board.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Definitely seems like a plausible solution. Bearman is also a very tenacious youngster so maybe those two will fire each other up.

@Ryzard

6 ай бұрын

@@LawVS I agree. I don't think it's likely, but out of all the teams with a rotating roster, Haas seems like the one that would be most likely to suddenly be rid of one or both drivers :p

@BandaiNamco2005

6 ай бұрын

His race win is made by Nando

@Ryzard

6 ай бұрын

@@BandaiNamco2005 agreed, but he still statistically has it and brought it home and has podiums on merit, like this year. I'm by no means an ocon fan, I just think that, if any team were to pick him up after Alpine, a place like Haas who needs someone with speed and aggression and is already fairly okay with some toxicity sometimes (cough.. mazepin) and has a high turnover rate would be most likely to have an open spot for him whenever he ends up seatless.

Didnt he literally just finish before Gasly, even though he started from the way back and Gasly was p6? I think him an gasly are pretty equal, sometimes one is better sometimes the other. And they both have pretty shitty luck xd

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Gasly had issues with the car and the hard tyres so that's why he fell out of the points. I will give Ocon credit for P4 but he didn't make Alpine's time in Vegas a breeze.

It almost makes you wonder what redbull would look like right now if pierre was there. I think he would be much more consistent than checo. He was rushed and underdeveloped when they had him at redbull. Glad to see him doing well.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I would love to know why Pierre was REALLY overlooked for replacing Albon for 2021.

@ccramit

6 ай бұрын

​@LawVS Some RB mechanics and engineers have come out and stated that he was rather difficult to work with and wasn't likable. They didn't outright say it, but they said nicer versions of that.

@phillydelphia8760

6 ай бұрын

​@@ccramitpeople seem to conveniently forget that he had serious attitude issues in his RB days. Like out loud disparaging the other driver and saying he should be the main guy, despite his awful results. He seems to be maturing, aside from his tantrum at letting Ocon back in front earlier in the year.

@izzy3784

6 ай бұрын

he was just plain mediocre in all areas, on and off track. crashed TWICE in pre-season testing, his confidence got crushed for the rest of his stint by that and his constant complaints and excuses. he built a terrible relationship with the people he worked with in his garage and with senior RB people, that included a shouting match with newey. like,, you don't shout at The adrian newey himself, that's a big no no also he's not an upgrade to checo whatsoever just because he's currently performing at a midfield team. it's a different kind of pressure

Honestly, a big part of it has to be sponsors and who is marketable because PR in my opinion has been a lot more marketable and I feel like from my has bin said by Yuki about Pierre it sounds like Pierre is a good mentor, and I would ideally like to see a driver like Schumaker, in that position beside Pierre I feel like Schumaker deserves another chance, and as though PR would be able to help him to understand the car, as well as from a marketability point of view, Schumaker is marketable just purely using his last name and I think of anything, having Pierre there who knows what he’s doing behind the wheel and a bit more of a younger unproven talent in Schumaker that they could be a very good team partially basing that off of what has been said about how PR is as a person, but I could see him being a good health and Support to Schumacher to help him get back into the swing of things, and to get him confident racing hass was not a good place for Schumacher to have started his career at there was too much pressure. I feel like there would still be pressure at the team with Pierre but I think more of the pressure will be put onto Pierre who I think would handle it without any issue at this stage in his career

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Indeed. Mick has a chance to do well for Alpine in WEC and if all goes well he could be a great addition with sponsors and fans coming to the team. Good vibes with the fans of F1 are much needed.

I think Pierre made the right move when he went to Alpine. I never liked - nor believed in - the idea of him going back to Red Bull. Although Alpine are literally in the middle of nowhere, he's holding his own against Esteban, who is having a rough season. I hope Pierre gets to a top team, or that Alpine manage to get their stuff together and start challenging the top teams.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

It's definitely turning out to be a good decision for forging his own path without risk of replacement

Ocon needs to learn what "driving your own race" means, not being distracted by team-mate. If there's one thing someone like Kimi Raikkonen was elite at, it was minding his own business.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Yep. He just needs to do what Checo needs to do and just focus on what he can do best for the team.

Interesting how Gasly has been able to beat Ocon more convincingly than Alonso

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Alonso had a lot of poor reliability which hampered his points haul. He probably lost over 50 points because of it.

@Duval-In-The-Wall

6 ай бұрын

@@LawVS I’m talking more about the quali battle than the points battle

Wow, you make F1 content too? That’s really cool man

@LawVS

5 ай бұрын

Yep. Sharing my other passion.

Lol I was thinking the same Mick and Pierre. Btw Pierre is a lovely person. He deserves all he gets. Worked his butt off and rarely complaining

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He got on with it at TR/AT and learnt a lot instead of whinging regarding the demotion. Definite respect.

This is the first content I've seen that acknowledged that Ocon provoked Verstappen after the crash in Brazil. It's the same attitude that he displayed a few weeks ago following the team orders in Japan. It shows, on top of everything else, that he hasn't matured in the last five years.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

It's quite obvious that Ocon provoked Max. Max wouldn't lash out that way without provocation

Esteban is definitely a fast driver, but will always prioritize beating his teammate over finishing the race often resulting in contact or slowing down both drivers enough to take them out of the points

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Indeed. Not a team player which is what Alpine needs right now.

I'm not sure if it's my bias but it seems for years every time Ocon is involved in an incident on or off track, it's either outright his fault or he escalated it and made it worse, often with his teammate. He seems far too prone to unnecessary altercations. Most drivers end up having a coming together with someone at some point, but with Ocon it's like he encourages it to boil over rather than deescalating.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I think you're right there. Ocon does tend to aggravate situations more than necessary.

When alonso joined alpine ocon didn't give problems in 2021 but 2022 when otmar came in he did some bullshittery and now that otmar left, it's like he can't get to his antics

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Ocon got good favour from his former boss and felt invincible against Alonso, who was hampered by unreliability. Now Ocon is getting a clear lesson in humility.

Im surprised you didn't bring up the suzuka incident. How do you think that factors into this?

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I meant to but Pierre did the right thing. If he hadn't yielded, he'd have spun as the villain.

I swear every time anybody talks about Ocon, no one mentions his Force India days... I was waiting for someone to bring this up. 11:35

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

That's the place where he GOT his reputation!

@darthapollo660

6 ай бұрын

@@LawVS Exactly! When he got dropped and put as a Reserve Driver for Mercedes, it was sad, but I was not shocked.

IVE BEEN PRAYING FOR TIMES LIKE THIS

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Pierre is finally being properly recognised for his leadership skills for the kind of team Alpine is right now.

@rajvirmanku1216

6 ай бұрын

@@LawVSexactly this broo (also i dont rate ocon much as a driver tbh). Gasly deserves this team leader role and his relationship/teamwork with yuki showed this (unlike the other alpine driver)

Remember those rumors where Ocon would replace Bottas for 2020? Mercedes & Toto Wolff dodged a bullet, Ocon is good but the midfield is the comfort zone for him

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I think him partnering Hamilton would've been a nightmare. He would've either clashed or fallen into obscurity in a mini spiral, kinda like he did with Daniel over the course of a season.

Esteban might be an 'ok' driver - but he is definitely NOT liked by the rest of the grid.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

That's a shame. He's built himself a bad reputation even amongst his peers.

Video didn't age well

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I still reckon Pierre has managed to get under Esteban's skin with his more mature driving.

Ocon is his own worst enemy out there. When the race is a bit "dull" look at Ocon - he's probably smashing in fast laps over and over. But he has such an annoying habit as a fan of the sport where he just.....can't pick a fight. Either it's a fight he was never going to win or a fight he had to slow himself down to take and STILL lose out anyways. Which is so bizzare because he just doesn't really make mistakes when in open air, and even in traffic he has no problems showing speed and consistency so you can't say he's slow or unskilled. It's just...bizarre. That's the word I'm sticking to - bizarre. He's not always at fault, and sometimes yeah there was nothing he could do in a given situation but he's so consistent at finding himself in those situations that at some point you have to ask - Why is Ocon so often involved in these?

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He just needs to stop hustling so much and instead look at the bigger picture.

Well Gasly and Ocon have expressed interest in Alpine's WEC. But seriously its the "French Ferrari" Alpine we are talking about. Credit where's its due they were the first to have "slidepods" now just need to get the engine to work and slowly creep up in the standings. As for Ocon only time will tell, probably he knows the pressure to perform is mounting.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Hopefully he reins in his aggression next year and justify an extension with Pierre.

Gasly is also often the head of many a DRS train. So good at making himself very wide, even when he’s not very fast.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

It gets points and that's what teams want.

@spawnofapathy

6 ай бұрын

@@LawVS oh I definitely don’t mean it as a bad thing. He preserves grid position in the points better than many on the track. I bet he’s better now than when he left Red Bull. He’s probably one of, if not the most underrated driver on the grid.

Fun Fact: In astrology Uranus (ruler of Aquarius /Gasly) is a higher vibration of Mercury (Virgo/Ocon) and I've seen this situation play out observing the same combo in professional kitchens - slowly the Aquarius rises above the Virgo in the same environment..

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Interesting. Thanks for the astrological take!

I just love that brand new McLaren cap casually hanging there as if its an old one from like 5 years ago that has been casually thrown on the attick because the driver quit F1.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Nice little prop, that is. Maybe I'll add some more over the course of time.

Esteban has the issue where he thinks he's better than he currently is, and so is unwilling to learn. He's far from my favourite driver, but you can't really justify Max getting physical with him just because he was a troll.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I haven't really seen him improve since 2021. That's his peak, as far as I can tell.

Gasly is a really underrated driver

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

That's becoming more and more apparent with every season.

Pierre called Esteban's bluff. Esteban has more time on that team but he's nowhere close to being a team leader. Ocon might be in quite the predicament next season when the market opens up again.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Indeed. Now Pierre is starting to see the development of the car coming his direction. If he can get the A524 with that shorter cockpit, that will unlock more potential since you COULD say that Gasly had a handicap...or more like an ARMDICAP!

Occon is a driver I never liked cause his attitude and unlike some others he doesn't seem to realize it and change it. Would absolutely not miss him.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Yeah it's really weird how his personal shifts over the course of a race weekend.

The problem with Ocon is that his name and the term "team player" cannot exist in the same sentence without the addition of the words "not a". I could maaaybe see him going to Williams, owing to Toto's influence.

@Rimmy45

6 ай бұрын

I am not sure if Williams would take him, sure Toto could give money to Williams for it but I think Williams is in development right now, they have Albon that is on fire and are probably nurturing Sargeant (as he was rushed into F1) as a recent-future talent

@Snufflegrunt

6 ай бұрын

@@Rimmy45 I can't see Sargeant keeping his seat by the end of next year really. Of all the rookies this year he's easily been the weakest.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Vegas kinda showed that that he was not willing to play with the team and instead chose to serve his own wants. Alpine did benefit from it but it wasn't really sporting.

This is a very random comment, but that sweater looks good on you. 😎

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I'm a fan of Ocon, but I think you're right. He's had a lot of bad luck, but when he's sloppy, he's REALLY sloppy. He does seem to be the company guy so it'd be nice if he was with them in another series, but really who knows at this point. Next year's silly season will be very silly

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He just needs to be a team player and not rail against his teammate.

It feels like yesterday that people were talking about Pierre as a driver stuck in limbo, running out of time and with no particular prospects for the future. But it looks like the ballad of verstappen's ex-teammates is bound for a happy ending. Now all that remains is for ricciardo to prove he's still got it and every one will have gone through a fairytale redemption arc

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Yes. He's managed to really hammer home his more amiable approach to racing, bringing over his skills of consistency to a team that desperately needs that.

This aged well...

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I shall stand by this!

No matter how unreliable the car, Ocon is most reliable as a chicane. Or launch platform when he gets close to Alonso.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He's flying...in the wrong sense.

Helmut Marko really messed up by getting rid of Pierre/Alex . With what Alex is doing with the Williams imagine if he was in a Redbull.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Indeed and it's cathartic to see Helmut showing some sense of regret with Alex.

@Rimmy45

6 ай бұрын

Helmut Marko is rash and even though he got Verstappen into that runs out, Albon and Pierre were rookies and I am not suprised they fell under with all the pressure and expectation. This is a tight sport but talent needs to be nurtured not thrown into a mixer and expect it to beat the mixer

@Evarakeus

6 ай бұрын

Ehhhh. You'd have a point if they didn't already have Max, but as it stands they have a driver who is not just much better than they are even now, but also younger by a year. They don't really have anything to gain from having either Pierre or Albon in the car beyond perhaps more points, but Checo's just about locked up P2 anyway. Further, Albon's stated publically that Max's setup preferences are too severe for him, so there's no real guarantee he'd do better than Checo at handling the current RB

I do like Ocon, and would like to see him do well, but I fear at the end of the day he will be the cause of his own demise. I remember Toto saying something to the effect of Lewis still having the psychological scars from how he was treated for so many years, and I get the same impression from Ocon - of course he didn’t have to deal with racism, but the classism of the elite can be pretty damn nasty. I think he’s still got a chip on his shoulder which continues to affect how he reacts under pressure. It probably also doesn’t help when, after having your confidence somewhat boosted by a long-term contract, your boss turns around and says you’re not world champion material but he can rely on you to be a “very good second driver”… way to undermine the security that contract should have given him. Of course, the way to change that attitude is to _be_ that very good second driver, be the team player that you are expected to be, be a positive force within the team, and then let your talent speak for itself - because if you can’t do that, you’re not a leader. I just don’t think that Ocon is in the psychological space to be able to do that - he seems to me like he is still haunted by insecurity. I could be totally off base, that’s just the impression I get.

Ocon would be quite a good driver were he able to see past the mega-chip he has on both shoulders. He is impetuous and rather entitled. It is a pity because there is a lot of potential there, just hidden by the attitude.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

He IS a good driver. He has gotten good results in his time in F1, but he DOES have some major cruxes in terms of his on-track temperament.

Isnt Audi/Sauber interested in Ocon for their ‘25/26 lineup?

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I DID see rumours about that yes...and that was an odd call.

I don't agree that Ocon has 'fallen' in any way. I don't think he ever reached a high level. He is very good, no question about that. But F1 isn't about being good. Lance Stroll is good. Latifi was good. Sure Ocon is a race winner, but that didn't come about due to him being better to everyone else on the day, just about all the faster cars were ruled out or damaged. Maybe I've missed it but I don't recall hearing Ocon's name ever mentioned when discussing who should be signed by the top teams. That said, Alpine don't look like being anything more than a midfield team in the near future anyway and Ocon is good enough for that.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

I didn't see him kick on after his win in 2021 and I think this is the beginning of the end for him. If he can't fix his attitude problem overall, then I firmly believe the team will revolve around Pierre going forward.

After this video came out, Ocon finished 4th in Las Vegas and Gasly 11th. Now just 4 points separate Ocon and Gasly. Gasly might have just done enough this year to stay ahead in the points, but Ocon might finish ahead now.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

That was definitely the response to Brazil...but he was thinking about himself and not the team.

@RowskiF1996

6 ай бұрын

​@@LawVSBecause Ocon was faster in the race and saved his race by getting past. I've heard Gasly might have had battery issues, so it probably is fairly balanced with Ocon losing points in Singapore with the gearbox issue and now Gasly in Las Vegas

@LD-oq9lx

6 ай бұрын

​@@LawVSit's Benetton, there is no team.

My problem with Ocon is that he is quick to invite conflict, only to then immediately make himself the victim with no accountability whatsoever. No wonder his reputation is so low.

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Very right. He's quite ready to get mad.

Don't forget we had that whole Piastri situation during last years silly season as well

@LawVS

6 ай бұрын

Very true, fair enough.