...and that’s why dr. erskine wanted a GOOD MAN, not the perfect soldier.

@Farisss11

3 жыл бұрын

True

@brucef310

3 жыл бұрын

@@Farisss11 Dr Erskine sexually abused Cap when he was sleeping.

@Linator4

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I was saying this last week. I honestly thought Walker had already took the serum given he was starting to lose it. They went against Erskine’s vision. Captain America isn’t about being a good soldier. It’s about being a good man. That’s not saying Walker is completely bad. I like that he’s a morally grey character with good intentions but he seems to have an ego/temper issue that’s only gonna grow from here on. I can’t wait til he becomes USAgent, & possibly even joins the Thunderbolts.

@matthewdunham1689

3 жыл бұрын

Well said

@clarradactyl7791

3 жыл бұрын

@@Linator4 totally agree with you! john isn’t an evil guy, but he was super mentally/emotionally unprepared for all this, and definitely no match to steve’s heart, compassion and emotional strength.

Kudos to Wyatt Russell for his performance portraying John Walker

@LKRTM

3 жыл бұрын

Sebastian Stan and Wyatt Russell should both win awards for their performances, both incredible characters.

@vgvtop4323

3 жыл бұрын

Yea big facts people gotta stop hating on John walker I can relate to my guy walker I’d do the same too

@anthrax6685

3 жыл бұрын

Didn’t know his father was Kurt Russell

@sayemahmed7439

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah he did a good job making you dislike the character. But I felt bad for his friend.

@anonymes2884

3 жыл бұрын

@@vgvtop4323 People can hate on John Walker all they like, he's a made up bad guy (we can relate _and_ think he's wrong). People gotta stop hating on _Wyatt Russell_ though, who is a real guy _pretending_ to be a made up bad guy so well that he's apparently had death threats aimed at him on Twitter (not actually _to_ him because he's apparently not on Twitter but they went to a fake account in his name). Which is absolutely idiotic.

When Thanos snapped :( When Hulk snapped :) When Tony snapped :| When Walker snapped :O

@ramonabdiel10

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated Comment

@hayfordsarfo1646

3 жыл бұрын

i read this comment at 20:15 i was confused what “snap” u were talking about lol

@drumaticpageofmusic4148

Жыл бұрын

I’d say it’s more like this Thanos :O Hulk :D Tony :’( Walker 😳

NO ONE TELL ROCKET, THERE'S SOMEONE WHO CAN TAKE BUCKY'S ARM!

@tmac731

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@michaelgreenwood3413

3 жыл бұрын

Oh, he'll get that arm.

@dwaynecox2002

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought when I saw it.

@Monke069

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah rocket how much for the gun bucky its not for sale rocket ok how much for the arm lol

@randygriffin1859

3 жыл бұрын

😁

Walker said that he had the GUTS like Steve, but Dr. Erskine chose Steve because he had the HEART

@73starrdiva

3 жыл бұрын

BOOM 💥!!

@slemangerdy8407

3 жыл бұрын

bruh, thats is john walker, poor dude is just playing whwt script tells him

@cerdas1814

3 жыл бұрын

@@slemangerdy8407 I meant walker. No hate on the actor, I think he is doing fantastic.

@TheUriah95

3 жыл бұрын

I cant stop thinking about the fact that in his final moments Lamar shows signs of a canadate even Erskine might've have considered only to have John witness him use that last bit of true HEART & then proceed to desecrate the shield, & decapitate a man in front of the entire world... And thats what GUTS get you, baby!

@warhawk_yt

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheUriah95 From what it looked like he didn’t decapitate him he probably caved his chest in. He aimed at the chest and you get a full shot that looks like he still has his head on. Could be wrong but I don’t think he decapitated him as that shield probably could decapitate someone in one clean hit if you wanted to. To be honest realistically that shield probably would kill every person that gets hit with or at least seriously injured marvel just doesn’t make that happen as that wouldn’t be really appropriate for the rating and their kid friendly model. To be honest this shows more blood than a lot of stuff they do so it’s surprising.

“What’s your reason for not liking him?” “His stupid a** jaw line” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Crzyangelgirl

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@Aragonsdick5170

3 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 😂..

@CoconutDreamz1

3 жыл бұрын

Crying! 😂😂😂

@kristamcnair1430

3 жыл бұрын

Bruh 😂🤣

@breezy3392

3 жыл бұрын

Walker was a good person overall. He was just cocky, self-important, and talked down to people in a way that made him so annoying. But I see how he was struggling to fill a role that was given to him. He wasn't a bad guy. I just think personality-wise he was ill suited to the job.

This episode proves Erksine's point about why Steve was the perfect choice to be Captain America. Steve was "Not a perfect soldier, but a good man." The U.S. Government made the mistake of prioritizing the perfect soldier to be Cap, while ignoring if he was a good man or not. It's clear that Walker has some PTSD, is very high strung and anxious, and quick to anger. He's not the worst, but he is FAR from the "good man" label worthy of Captain America.

@73starrdiva

3 жыл бұрын

THAT part!👍🏾

@OddWomanOut_Pi81

3 жыл бұрын

BOOM! 💯

@audreyooro7040

3 жыл бұрын

This 💯!

@lettylunasical4766

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, he needed therapy, not a weapon.

@julian3560

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. I think Walker even acknowledges that he’s not a good man when he has that convo with Lemar about the things they had to do to earn those 3 medal of honors. Him and Karli are like two sides of the same coin. Good intentions but destroy everything around them.

20:20 "If that was us and they killed me, you would snap too" "That's debatable" 😂😂😂

@blackknight1037

3 жыл бұрын

That got me man😂😂

@ArjunSharma-oq3vh

3 жыл бұрын

funny as hell

@anarchy7542

3 жыл бұрын

😂

@leonarddavis8732

3 жыл бұрын

That put me on the floor

@Sathya_1996

3 жыл бұрын

😂

"YEAAAHH Lemar baby! He back" *two seconds later* "OHH NOOOOO" Priceless lmao

@plee5525

3 жыл бұрын

Was looking for this comment lmaoooo

@raheem7632

3 жыл бұрын

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

This episode was basically highlighting why Sam was chosen as successor. He has the calm, the skill, the discipline, the judgment, and most importantly the compassion needed. Captain America can’t just be a strong soldier, he has to be a strong person.

@cinemamba6887

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Sam approached the situation with Karli exactly how Steve would. Trying to make peace and understand while still maintains he disagreed with her methods. He was getting through to her until Walker barged in. And he didn’t even hesitate in saying he wouldn’t take the serum.

@centipedekid9824

3 жыл бұрын

Sam killed 20 people episode one and didnt give a flying fuck.

@lassie105

3 жыл бұрын

@@centipedekid9824 LOL Sam was attempting to save a an Air Force member and was fighting terrorists that had no problems killing folks, or blowing him up! in that regard his actions were justified.

@centipedekid9824

3 жыл бұрын

@@lassie105 To say John's weren't is hypocritical

@kikiteka

3 жыл бұрын

@@centipedekid9824 This is willful misrepresentation. Sam has killed in battle. Sam has never killed someone who had their hands up, unarmed, surrendered, begging for mercy.

I was confused when his arm fell off, I was like “she LITERALLY disarmed him”

@stalematesibling

3 жыл бұрын

Well, Ayo is very....DISARMING...

@vlodek-193

3 жыл бұрын

The word "disarm" has just taken on a new meaning :D

@saiah_yt795

3 жыл бұрын

@@stalematesibling I see what you did there😂

@saiah_yt795

3 жыл бұрын

@@vlodek-193 I guess it does now that I think about it

@saiah_yt795

3 жыл бұрын

@@YodatheHobbit that’s funny asl😂

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions". Karli and John just paved two lanes for the underworld

@Phoen1x728

3 жыл бұрын

Wise words

@galio7741

3 жыл бұрын

Moral leashes to control men

@aswaswasw2323

3 жыл бұрын

Yessir exactly! I don't like that man

@mrHunleashesHELL

3 жыл бұрын

@Romanogers4ever More like Those two made two lanes to Hell while Thanos made an expressway to Satan's Doorstep

@galio7741

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrHunleashesHELL Karli maybe, but why John? He killed a villain, there's nothing wrong with that

Steve is what we want America to be John is what America actually is

@anonymes2884

3 жыл бұрын

Well put.

@bartell20j

3 жыл бұрын

Complete fact

@clarradactyl7791

3 жыл бұрын

yo that’s deep

@fake-PSL

3 жыл бұрын

r/I'm 14 and this is deep moment

@CaptainPikeachu

2 жыл бұрын

John is actually just what any traumatized person would do in that situation, if people were honest with themselves, they'd have killed that flag smasher person if they were in Walker's place

I dont blame him for taking the serum since dude has been struggling...BUT not only is the symbol of Captain America completely tarnished...he killed the wrong guy! He let his emotions dictate his decisions, ruined the plan with Sam and Buck on a time limit that HE gave him. Remember the first CA movie, “don’t be a perfect solider, but a GOOD MAN”. That’s why Cap chose Sam. He’s a good man. Walker might be the “perfect solider” but now this proves he’s not a good man. He’s supposed to be Captain America. Not THE PUNISHER.

@lettylunasical4766

3 жыл бұрын

His ego wouldn't let him give up the shield, even when it was clear he couldn't handle it. Hoskins was more level-headed than he was.

@zerekanthony2203

3 жыл бұрын

@@lettylunasical4766 people keep taking about him being arrogant and driven by his ego and I just don't see it that way at all. If anything he's driven by his insecurities and the need and want for respect, especially from his peers. Someone spit in his face and yet he showed restrain (someone spit on my face I'm throwing hands). He is a good intentioned dude but his insecurities and desire to be respected put too much pressure on him and he cracked. That's more in line with how I see things.

@nickya9257

3 жыл бұрын

@@zerekanthony2203 it’s both ego and insecurity.

@afriendlycadian9857

3 жыл бұрын

@@nickya9257 no pressure form up top remember captain America sort of did his own thing but walker has the us government on his shoulders demanding results

@layton6202

3 жыл бұрын

Walker is a good man that's all they've shown that before and there's no way in hell Steve wouldn't have killed Tony if he killed Bucky he went berzerk just from seeing Buckys arm blown off. He didn't kill the wrong guy you act like he just ran up on someone random dude like that guy wasn't pinning him down to get killed moments ago but got his friend killed instead. Sam gave no reason for Walker to trust him, dudes, out here running around with the same person who fucked the avengers, blew up the UN and killed the king of Wakanda you gotta think about these thing's my guy.

TBH, I'm on Zemo's side on this. Destroying the serums was a good move and I applaud him for not choosing to use the serum himself.

@JAYANESTHETIC

3 жыл бұрын

i feel like there was some temptation there but he ultimately knew destroying them was the right choice

@clarradactyl7791

3 жыл бұрын

same here. we’ve clearly seen the tragic and terrible consequences of the super serum...it needs to be destroyed.

@luisf2793

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah 100% super soldiers are bad, making anyone a symbol is bad, and karli is to far gone

@nobblkpraetorian5623

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kasual7 She's not innocent herself. She blew up a building full of people.

@nobblkpraetorian5623

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kasual7 If he killed her then he would've prevented more deaths by her hand. But since she got away more people would die.

"that's like YOU having the uniform on, and you see ME get thrown against the wall. You gonna snap!" -"...that's debatable" IM DEAD LMFAO

@johnnyskinwalker4095

3 жыл бұрын

🤣😭

@maverickdallarte1377

3 жыл бұрын

Debatable LOOOOL

@ArrowstormGaming

3 жыл бұрын

That had me in tears from laughing lmfao. Just how he delivered it and the look on Struggle's face lmao

"I don't like him! Stupid ass jawline." The best take down of John Walker hahahahah

"Lemar baby hes back" 2 seconds later 💀

@michaelgreenwood3413

3 жыл бұрын

He might not be dead, but he sure as hell isn't going to be walking or outside of an ICU for at least six months.

As much as you might like John Walker, we all know he’s definitely getting the title of Captain America taken away for what he did there. In come US Agent.

@gdesiree29

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Some people are arguing about John being captain America and I'm like, " yall know Sam is gonna get the shield back." The argument is pointless, especially after what he just did. Seeing how Sam was in this episode made me see why Steve gave the shield to him in the first place.

@annabanana7659

3 жыл бұрын

@@gdesiree29 They forgot the footages on the trailers I guess 😂

@gdesiree29

3 жыл бұрын

@@annabanana7659 clearly lol I just want next week to come so this whole john walker being captain America wil stop. Give the shield back to the rightful owner. I see why Sam felt like he shouldn't have it but he shouldn't had given it up. Steve gave it to him personally, keep it

@gdesiree29

3 жыл бұрын

@arun sunil why u are going so deep into this? All I'm saying is that Sam is going to get the shield back and rightfully so he will get it back. He shouldn't had given it up. And Im not a child or a man so don't be disrespectful. So all of u guys arguing about John is stupid. At the end , the shield will be in Sam's hands again. End of story. That's all I care about. Sooner or later, John was gonna be stripped from being Captain America. He was mad and killed the man I get it, But the world saw it so either or, it's still a bad look .

@annabanana7659

3 жыл бұрын

@@gdesiree29 Walker's definitely gonna lose that shield either in the next episode or the last. Maybe MCU will use that to pave him into US Agent and introduce The Thunderbolts since Zemo is getting great screentime. Shame they killed Crossbones during Civil War though.

"Good becomes great, bad becomes worse."

@PioliDimettiti01

3 жыл бұрын

You cant really blame him for that karli killed his best friend

@iiiloschaposiii

3 жыл бұрын

"Good bad becomes becomes great worse."

@cormano64

3 жыл бұрын

@@PioliDimettiti01 Being emotional does not hold up in court in cases of murder. Especially when it was not in self-defense, the victim was unarmed, incapacitated AND he wasn't even the one who killed his friend. His emotion is understandable. His action is inexcusable.

@PioliDimettiti01

3 жыл бұрын

​@@cormano64 truth but that dude was also involved of the death of his friend because he was the one that was holding him from the back and they re all criminals and if i see someone that got his loved one killed i can t really said much if he kill him back ,at the end its an hard situation that you can t really talk about

@queenofnevers6990

3 жыл бұрын

He's not bad, but very conflicted inside.

I think ppl forgetting what black panther said in civil war about revenge and how it consumes you. U need to escape that feeling for your own good.

@cormano64

3 жыл бұрын

One my favorites lines from Black Panther. He had his real arc in that movie. Glad to see someone pointing this out as to why "an eye for an eye" is the worst possible take.

@Micisme86

3 жыл бұрын

Tell that to his guards

@jasonrick6148

3 жыл бұрын

Zemo didn’t specifically target T’Chaka in this scenario. It just happens that he was there at the wrong time. That explosion could’ve killed anyone and it did. However, Karli deliberately killed lemar while he’s trying to save Walker. So it’s understandable that Walker needed to feel that way.

@midofmidlife

3 жыл бұрын

@@Micisme86 right! No one is mentioning that they were literally going to kill walker and hopkins

@PayThePiperr

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonrick6148 if she deliberately did it why did she looked shocked? Why did everyone stop fighting? You're not making sense

The fact that Sam said “No” to taking the serum,reminds me of how Steve just wanted to protect his country even as a skinny guy.Sam is meant to be the cap that sees grey not black or white..

@clarradactyl7791

3 жыл бұрын

right? steve just wanted to help people who were vulnerable to bullies.

@aswaswasw2323

3 жыл бұрын

Steve wanted to do what was right always, regardless if what others thought of him! John just want to prove to ppl that he's good. He is insecure beyond belief! Falcon doesn't have powers yet he flourishes! Instead of asking falcon to be next to him for public perceptions he shouldn't asked for advice on how to navigate the big 3 as a man and not powered up.... advice. Falcon sat in that car to hear him out episode 2 and John proved it was about him not about the cause!

@TheKawaiikari

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. And John would take it (and did take it) in a moments notice.

@layton6202

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheKawaiikari in a moments notice the fuck are you talking about he consulted with his close trust worthy friend who's a good man and then he took it.

@layton6202

3 жыл бұрын

@@aswaswasw2323 Not gonna lie if you look at it objectively there is no actual reason to hate him he's hot heated at times but could you blame him, dudes, been trying his best has this expectation on him but kept on getting disrespected at every turn, even when he saved Sam and Bucky instead of at least thanking him they just belittled him for no reason when he got Bucky out of jail and reached out they still disrespected him, there's only so many times you could let that slide. If they tried to get along with him in the beginning then thing's would have worked out and he would trust them but they're out here breaking out the dude who killed the king of Wakanda and fucked the avengers. If you really look at it Bucky and Sam been the ones who were being crazy this entire. Captain America was always just something the government made up to push propaganda what you're talking about is Steve and his ideology and even then Steve has fucked up too especially in civil war. Steve was my favourite character but I don't hate walker at all Sam and Bucky have the assholes but none says anything it's very easy to see Walker isn't Steve nor is he trying to be why is it so hard for others to see that too.

I honestly feel so bad for Lemar. He was just a regular dude! He didnt deserve to die like that at all.

I love Bucky's and Sam's character moments in this episode. Bucky fighting through his code words and finally set free. He's dealing with his past and on a redemption arc. Sam is a good man with a big heart because he counseled soldiers. He is willing to listen and be there for people and that is what he did with Karli. Him sitting and relating with Karli was heartwarming

@LuthandoDlomo

3 жыл бұрын

Exaclty bro! That is heroic within of itself, not the mantles but the real depth to a person

@cedrichicks897

3 жыл бұрын

Then why couldn’t he even slightly attempt to relate to John. He is giving the enemy a chance without thinking twice about his friend.

@liveforshield5717

3 жыл бұрын

@@cedrichicks897 How do you want him to “slightly attempt to relate to John” you’re not making any sense, and he isn’t his “friend” like how did you come up with that lol. It’s pretty obvious John and Sam aren’t friends, but either way Sam has been nice and respectful towards him. Meanwhile John’s just been a complete reckless idiot.

@avgnfandon2

3 жыл бұрын

@@cedrichicks897 honestly Bucky was the most antagonist towards John when the show started but with Sam, he’s been cordial and after this episode/before John went off in the deep end, he clearly isn’t someone who can work with a team like he wanted since he’s always trying to take charge. That shield and his fans gassed him up too much

@nubbiewubbie7285

3 жыл бұрын

Sam’s conversation with Karli was my favorite part of this episode.

3 mins in and Marvel got us tearing up again. That acting tho!! 🤯 Felt Bucky’s pain on a spiritual level man 😂😩

@lisamurrow7263

3 жыл бұрын

Ikrrr 😢😢😭

@praneeshak4406

3 жыл бұрын

Sebastian Stan the man.

@FlatBoi

3 жыл бұрын

@@praneeshak4406 Sebastian Man

@kenXtripleI

3 жыл бұрын

After all Bucky's been through in his lifetime he deserves a happy ending of some kind. Like right off the bat seeing him cry in the Wakanda flashback broke my heart.

@justUzzy

3 жыл бұрын

@@praneeshak4406 Nailed it 👏

I’m so happy Bucky is getting his screen time. He’s such a great and underrated character.

@paschalisgriek

3 жыл бұрын

Also the actor is underrated.

@surfingtothestars

3 жыл бұрын

Future Luke Skywalker. Hopefully

"This is why you were chosen. Because a strong man, who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power. But a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows compassion." Dr Erskine to Steve. Walker has known power all his life, and the serum amplified his bad traits; impatience, arrogance, a need for external respect and validation, and for this I DO blame him. His murder of the rebel was perhaps understandable on some level, but his stress was brought on by his ego and his inability to handle having his ass handed to him. And his ass was handed to him because of his arrogant assumptions about everyone around him, and his expectation of respect while barely willing to give it. This was especially on display with the Dora Milaje.

@lettylunasical4766

3 жыл бұрын

100%

@clarradactyl7791

3 жыл бұрын

say it 🙌🏽✨💯

@layton6202

3 жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie if you look at it objectively there is no actual reason to hate him he's hot heated at times but could you blame him, dudes, been trying his best has this expectation on him but kept on getting disrespected at every turn, even when he saved Sam and Bucky instead of at least thanking him they just belittled him for no reason when he got Bucky out of jail and reached out they still disrespected him, there's only so many times you could let that slide. If they tried to get along with him in the beginning then thing's would have worked out and he would trust them but they're out here breaking out the dude who killed the king of Wakanda and fucked the avengers. If you really look at it Bucky and Sam been the ones who were being crazy this entire. Captain America was always just something the government made up to push propaganda what you're talking about is Steve and his ideology and even then Steve has fucked up too especially in civil war. Steve was my favourite character but I don't hate walker at all Sam and Bucky have the assholes but none says anything it's very easy to see Walker isn't Steve nor is he trying to be why is it so hard for others to see that too. Tichala would have killed klaw if it none stopped him don't act like he just stopped by himself, Steve would have killed Tony if he killed Bucky in front of him he went berzerk just from seeing his arm beamed off. He lost Purley because he was at a disadvantage so yes he took the reason for a good reason keep it 100 anyone in that situation would not because of ego but because he was fighting at a disadvantage.

Appreciate your nuanced take on John Walker. He may be arrogant and not noble like Steve Rogers, but he's trying to do a job he was tasked to do, yet getting his ass kicked every step of the way. This show is about nuances - the world is not in black and white, people are not just outright good or bad, be it Zemo, John Walker or Karli. In a way, the show is jerking us around every episode, making us swing between sympathy and contempt for these characters. The Bucky and Ayo scenes were my favourite. The heartbreaking flashback establishes their relationship, so it explains why Ayo feels betrayed and when she disarms Bucky later, she calls him James instead of White Wolf because she feels he doesn't deserve his Wakanda moniker any more.

@hermzgacho8548

3 жыл бұрын

Bast damn you James!

@clarkbarrett6274

3 жыл бұрын

Agree. Walker hasn't gotten a kick of support from Sam or Bucky either. Not for nothing. A good Non Commissioned Officer like Lemar always balances the Officers they work for (and vice versa). They need each other to pull the other guy back when they are headed in the wrong direction.

Them: "Why does Zemo always look smooth?" Me: "🎵 Smooth Criminal 🎵"

"I don't like his jawline" 🤣🤣🤣

Walker's problem is that he wanted the respect Steve had without earning it.

@MHouston602

3 жыл бұрын

THIS! He walked around with a chip on his shoulder. He's the villain - I can't believe they are defending him.

@arbitrary_thoughts

3 жыл бұрын

@@MHouston602 Guy has good intentions and trying his best to try and fill the shoes of Steve. But like they mentioned he was set up to fail; he wasn't a super soldier, he wasn't a saint, he's never dealt with super hero threats before, the heros he looked up to and the people in that superhero level circle look down on him, he is under pressure by both the government and the knowledge that he has to be a symbol for people. That is a lot of stress and when you have to play a role you know you aren't qualified for you have to fake the confidence to show others that you are capable and can handle the situation. Everytime he seems to be a bit smug or cocky I just get the vibe that he's trying to put on a brave face. He lost a close friend in this episode. He shouldn't of killed the flag smasher, but it isn't like the guy he killed didn't deserve much better. At the very least bring the flag smasher to custody who would then go through a trial before getting executed.

@89DrFunk

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY! The man want the respect without earning it from anyone. His attitude is of a privileged individual. He wants to do good but going about it the wrong way.

@seanbillington3287

3 жыл бұрын

You guys do remember that he's a veteran of Afghanistan, right? He's already earned respect. And on top of that, he didn't ask for the shield. The government hand-picked him for it, and he's trying to fulfill the role he was given. Dislike him all you want, he's a good guy who's simply snapping under too much pressure.

@lizd2943

3 жыл бұрын

@@seanbillington3287 He's done brave things no doubt, but that doesn't mean they owe him the kind of respect as a leader that Steve had. Steve had the uniform, the shield, and the serum and he was a joke at first. He had to earn being Captain America. The government either didn't realize or didn't care that they couldn't just slap the trappings on someone else and make a new Steve. He wanted to be in charge and he hadn't earned it.

i understand why walker took it the serum but he is proving zemo point about the serum and supremacy example walker and carli they are two sides of the same coin tryna do whats right for the people but just not in a good way

@layton6202

3 жыл бұрын

what did Walker do that was wrong he killed a killer

@magykfyre4114

3 жыл бұрын

@@layton6202 steve would never have revenge killed someone like that. also nico didn't even kill lemar, and he was basically defenceless. walker couldve chosen to arrest nico but he went off the rails because unlike steve he has a massive ego and anger problem !

@layton6202

3 жыл бұрын

@@magykfyre4114 Steve was going extra hard on the Nazis after Bucky fell from the train brutally killing them specially the guy who he threw into the blades of the plane and you think there was no killer intent in that and if Steve had seen Tony kill Bucky right in front of him he would of killed Tony he went berserk on him just from seeing Tony blow Bucky's arm off. Don't car like nico had nothing to do with Lamar's death he was the one pinning walker down so karli could kill him if he hadn't done that Lamar wouldn't have jumped in which led to his death, he isn't defenseless he's literally a super solider he had the energy to fight earlier but now somehow he's defenseless okay.

@logancook1419

3 жыл бұрын

@@layton6202 dude they were nazis trying to kill him not a random unarmed guy

@Mr10before9

3 жыл бұрын

They really aren't trying to do the right thing, they are trying to control things in how they think right is...

"I hope it doenst fuck him up" Narrator: "It did fuck him up"

@haytijr5823

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@Mr10before9

3 жыл бұрын

It didn't fuck him up, that's who he already was...he just has nothing holding him back anymore because Lamar was his voice of reason.

@MrMoleHole

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr10before9 nah he was fine till lemar died???

@Mr10before9

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrMoleHole no he wasn't, we saw several glimpses of the PTSD and Imposter Syndrome he suffers before Battlestar was killed.

@MrMoleHole

2 жыл бұрын

@@Mr10before9 yeah but he wasnt killing anyone till lemar died

"Can u give the reason though?!" "...Stupid ass jawline" Lmao

M Dogg: “LEMAR BACK BABY LETS GO” 2 secs later : “😳😳😳😳”

@elat9635

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr I didn't even finish saying "not so fast", and he had 😳😳😳 face

A cop does not get to be judge, jury and executioner. Nor does a soldier. Walker killing a person who did not kill Lemar and who was already beaten is not justice. That is murder.

@dcbennett

3 жыл бұрын

and the guy he killed say he looked up to capt america yet he was willing to help murder a man wearing the costume to of bull shit!!

@somegenericguy2909

3 жыл бұрын

But he got his wish, he wanted heroes to get their hands dirty

@Xzenoblade101

3 жыл бұрын

Wasn't he the same guy that was holding John so that Karlie can run up and kill john. That was gonna be murder if it played out.

@somegenericguy2909

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xzenoblade101 true that was him so he kinda deserved it

Cap was in the same position, against Iron Man. Put his Shield up to decapitate Iron Man. He decided to end the arc reactor. Cap thinks. John Walker is a piece of shit. Check yourself. Cap thinks ten steps ahead. Walker is all emotion. He thinks about himself. Walk it back with Walker.

@fortyseven1476

3 жыл бұрын

solution: falcon becomes CAPTAIN FALCON smash bro’s players will understand

@afriendlycadian9857

3 жыл бұрын

yeah he's a piece of shit give a list to why, he was given the job has the us government on his neck from the start Bucky and falcon give him shit from their first meeting like everyone else dont help him push him away etc him being defeated every time and not getting results making the pressure greater then his friend and comrade from Afghanistan being killed in front of you finally makes him crack

@adamf.barbieri8788

3 жыл бұрын

Lol steve didn't have his friend die in front of him nor was he on a losing streak left and right like walker. Steve was great, but he's way more fictional than walker, just like mdogg said walker is a regular dude in a world full of wizards, robots and aliens.

You guys are absolutely right that he was set up to fail. He is the fallen hero story archetype. His role is to fall for Falcon to rise. circumstances that can make heroes can also make them fall.

@KyleS3m3noff

3 жыл бұрын

And it all comes back to the government's completely tone-deaf read on who the new Captain America should be - of *course* they would think a highly decorated career soldier that's very good at going where he's told to go and doing what he's told to do is the perfect representation of the nation's heart.

@dwaynecox2002

3 жыл бұрын

@@KyleS3m3noff That’s because they weren’t looking for a hero, they just wanted a puppet.

@lynettebranch4463

3 жыл бұрын

@@KyleS3m3noff True, but his PTSD was not dealt with before they gave him the shield.

@KyleS3m3noff

3 жыл бұрын

@@lynettebranch4463 of course not. Why would they give a shit? "He'll be okay - he's a damn war hero! You can handle it, can't ya son? Sure ya can! Now get out there and be somebody! Uh, somebody we tell you to be, that is."

@CedricBassman

3 жыл бұрын

Good how everyone is quick to blame the Government, but i see no one giving Sam and Bucky shit for giving Walker shit at every turn when the man tried to extend an olive branch. Steve would've at least TRIED. They didn't even bother.

John Walker just broke Captain America’s moral code in the worst possible way...using his shield that protected people to murder someone. He just defiled Cap’s shield. Also, take note. The man that he killed is the same man who looked up to Captain America growing up. Imagine getting killed by his shield.

@BarakatheCollector

3 жыл бұрын

Damn yeah, funny how struggle soldier wasn't riding with John until that moment moment, but I was riding for john until that moment. Wyatt Russell is doing an amazing job at being a villain.

@lewis2hire980

3 жыл бұрын

But steve has killed before maybe once with that shield

@rickysantayana1954

3 жыл бұрын

@@lewis2hire980 Steve would never execute a defeated enemy

@BarakatheCollector

3 жыл бұрын

@@lewis2hire980 Steve has killed when it is necessary or to handle active threats. In the movies, you have not and will never see steve directly kill an unarmed man, let alone bludgeon them with a tool used for defense, when they have there hands up, no matter who they where involved in killing. This is why Walker isn't a hero.

@Mandozen

3 жыл бұрын

@@lewis2hire980 bruh, the dude was already on the ground with his hands up. I understand that he could have beat the shit up of that dude, but killing him like that? That’s brutal mindless killing. It’s sick. And the dude was not even the one who killed Battlestar.

Been waiting for this one.

@BarakatheCollector

3 жыл бұрын

Me too brother

@elat9635

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like their edits has become worse. I like their reactions but the tiny screen that's barely visible is not really for me. I'm sure it's all because of the KZread shinanigans, but at least they make the screen bigger.

@albertodiaz4074

3 жыл бұрын

Same

The reason why we can and should blame Fake Cap is because he supposed to a symbol. An example. What example did he set? How did he rep his people? The name of the episode is ‘The world is watching’. That’s what Nakia said to T’challa when he was about to kill Klaw in front of a crowd. Steve was also in a similar position when he showed restrain against Tony during Civil War. Fake Cap’s actions shows is how he compares to other heroes when faced with the same challenges. Also, you don’t need a serum or powers to succeed as the Dora Milaje demonstrated. Fake Cap didn’t need the serum because he was physically weaker but because he has weak character.

@blaktiger5939

3 жыл бұрын

Steve was never in that situation, Tony was his friend, John saw this dude as a terrorist that literally tried to murder him and his character isn't weak dude has 3 medals of honor my guy that accomplishment is crazy for a normal man. Yall too bent on him replacing steve that yall not even considering the pressure he under, dude literally said he wasn't trying to be steve but be the best cap he could be, but he literally gets shit on in every fight and Sam and bucky have been dicks from the jump

@hillpsalms7468

3 жыл бұрын

And T'challa didn't kill Zemo for killing his father.

That's twice John didn't listen. First, he should've trusted Sam to get the job done instead of jumping the gun. Second, they told him he didn't want that fight with the Wakandan ladies lmao. He lacks temperance.

@user-nn5kk7gm8d

2 жыл бұрын

First- Why should he trust 2 dude who shit on him everytime they see him for no reason, even after he save their life. Second - The Dora Milaje are Barbarian who can't talk without throwing spears around

"Can you blame the man?" - YES, I can, and you SHOULD blame the man! WTF?! Literally the reason "waiting periods" exist!! This is exactly why Dr Erskien said "not a perfect soldier, but a GOOD MAN."

@CedricBassman

3 жыл бұрын

Can't blame him tho.

@rohanalias9053

3 жыл бұрын

Or that it is just your Fucking opinion

@iwrotewords510

3 жыл бұрын

why should they?... are you a God, our leader or something? lol

@richardthecowardlylion5289

3 жыл бұрын

@@iwrotewords510 Just because you CAN write words doesn't mean they're smart words. lol

@rohanalias9053

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardthecowardlylion5289 so you are a cowardly lion lol Now you gonna give me endless hours of rants or lectures. Or you will insult me cus I called you out for judging a guy by his name Kepp on yelling alone

I can’t ride with yall on your train of thought. There is a difference between killing someone in the heat of the battle but the dude had been beating and given up with his hands up and he straight killed him. Steve would have never killed him. When Bucky was “killed” Steve never went on a murder spree. Which is why Zeno said “there has never been another Steve Rodgers”. He doesn’t have the mentality to have the power of the super soldier serum. Blood should not be on that shield.

@nancyd4250

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. The serum just heightened his insecurities. He’s always second guessed himself and trying to fit a mold.

17:35 "Lemar baby! He back!" Me: 😬😬🤣🤣

Is it just me or was that whole Bucky disarming scene a literal representation of “I brought you into this world and I’ll take you out”? 🤣🤣🤣

You are absolutely right when you say you don’t blame John Walker. He just wanted to do the right thing but nobody takes him seriously and he feels weak. I actually feel bad for him.

He killed the wrong person and it’s kinda sad how the guy he killed looked up to captain America and died by his shield

@aidanproko

3 жыл бұрын

Yooooo you right I didn’t even notice that. The motif there is crazyyyyy

@namfingerstyle8403

3 жыл бұрын

I mean thats what us soldier always do.

@clarradactyl7791

3 жыл бұрын

and now he has blood on his hands too

@Jordanskye

3 жыл бұрын

He was holding cap down so carly could kill him u were saying?

@seahbeahr5213

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jordanskye no excuse. He is a professional soldier. He absolutely knows better!

John Walker has been unstable and he knew the shield was above his threshold. Sam and the Dora Milaje don't have the serum and they hold their own. I feel no pity for him tbh, he needs to clock out.

@clarradactyl7791

3 жыл бұрын

agreed, walker wasn’t ready for any of this :(

@audreyooro7040

3 жыл бұрын

@@clarradactyl7791 He's that guy who was popular in high school then went to uni thinking it was going to be business and usual. He needs to get that shield taken from him asap.

@audreyooro7040

3 жыл бұрын

@Romanogers4ever I will give credit to Wyatt Russel for his brilliant performance. He humanized John Walker and showed his unraveling from him feeling inadequate. That being said, he could have all the good intentions but his actions never contribute to anything, they make things worse. He went in thinking the shield and uniform will help him sail through and get that respect automatically and that's not the case. He was also very cocky with the Dora Milaje and it was really nice to see them put him in his place. He has a complex issue and isn't a good fit for the mantle. They need to get him out of here asap.

@clarradactyl7791

3 жыл бұрын

@@audreyooro7040 totally agree with you! i like your analysis of walker’s character too. what’s also interesting to think about is steve’s character before he took the serum. he was bullied, beat up, and made fun of all the time, and after he took the serum and seeing bucky “die”, steve never compromised his morals and strong heart. walker was just unraveling more and more with his deep insecurities, ego complex, and rage...and once he took the serum...well, we all know how that went.

@afriendlycadian9857

3 жыл бұрын

meh everyone gave him crap from the start and drove him away the us government putting massive pressure on him for results and the fact that he goes from being a soldier and using guns to mostly a shield isnt his type of fighting plus steve after bucky died said he was kill and destroy hydra which of course he did so

Here's the thing though. If John had let Sam talk down Karli, there would have been no bloodshed.

@JoyGyllyan23

3 жыл бұрын

FACTS!

@bartell20j

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@cormano64

3 жыл бұрын

@Romanogers4ever Given Walker's overall attitude and temperament, Sam and Bucky wouldn't have gotten anywhere near as far with him as they have on their own. John Walker was a liability to the whole operation from day one, he's been trying to punch above his weight in all senses of the expression and the serum only made it worse for him, not better.

@meraldovisschers-bernabela9838

3 жыл бұрын

If John had been trying to do good, he would have swallowed his ego and taken advise from Sam about how to deal with people with superpowers. After all he has more experience doing that without having any. Instead John wants to have it done his way while treating them as sidekicks. He lacks the humility that Steve had. That's why he is not the right person to carry the shield.

@lettylunasical4766

3 жыл бұрын

He's ego couldn't handle letting Sam take the lead.

John Walker is like that cop that pulls you over for no reason😂🤣

@lettylunasical4766

3 жыл бұрын

And panics over nothing, loses his shit and kills someone.

@michaelgreenwood3413

3 жыл бұрын

@@lettylunasical4766 Uh.... his partner just died.

@Ronin-kk4bt

3 жыл бұрын

@@lettylunasical4766 it wasn’t over nothing his best friend and war buddy was killed in front of him

Zemo to handcuffs "You don't want to remain locked up, bound to these metal pipes. Not when you could be open and free." **click**

This episode was just simply MIND BLOWING 💯

@Ronin-kk4bt

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant!

I get the point you guys made about Walker and the struggles he faced and how he has all right to snap for being treated so badly by Bucky and Sam as well as the weight of being Captain America. But the fact that he straight up murdered the guy when he wasn't the one that killed Battlestar brings to mind what the Doctor that invented the original serum said to Steve in the first Captain America movie. He said that 'the serum amplifies who you already are, Good becomes great and bad becomes worse.' And the fact that Walker straight up murdered an innocent guy (yes he was a part of the flag smashers but Karli is the only one that seems bent on killing people. Remember, even the other guy was shocked by what Karli did when she blew up the building.) right after he took the serum just cements the fact to me he was never good to begin with. I mean when Steve saw Bucky fall from the train as his best friend he thought Bucky was dead, it was when he came back that he found out Bucky was still alive and he stuck to his mission and sacrificed himself to save the world. Look at what Walker did when his best friend died...killed somebody that had nothing to do with it out of anger and vengeance cause Karli was the one about to stab Cap then Lemar Jumped in and she punched him and then she ran when she saw what she did but Cap just went after the guy and he even yelled "where is she?" when he was chasing the guy proving he knew it was Karli that killed Lemar but he didn't care. He coulda just knocked him out or used him to get to Karli instead he desecrated all that the shield stood for. I just can't like Walker. (PROPS TO WYATT RUSSELL THOUGH. HIS PORTRAYAL OF WALKER IS EPIC)

@lettylunasical4766

3 жыл бұрын

Really good comment. I dislike how, like Loki, people are just going to defend the heinous stuff Walker is doing. Or be hypocritical by criticising Karli but not him when they're comitting the same crime (both have a traumatic past, both use the death of loved ones to kill people. Only difference is she's a kid and he's an adult, which is why Sam and Bucky are less forgiving on him).

@kammy6340

3 жыл бұрын

@@lettylunasical4766 😊 Thanks. Also also me being the nerd I am went and did some digging and recalled the scene from black panther in Hong Kong when T'Challa was gonna kill Claw in the middle of a crowd and Nakia and Okoye stopped him and what did Nakia say? "The world is watching" which is the title of this episode. T'Challa never had to listen he coulda still killed Claw but he did not cause he is a real hero. Now look at Walker, same situation almost but total opppsite reaction. He ain't a hero. Every hero has been through hell and they don't go around revenge killing. I can't like Walker. I just can't.

@ChrisDixon__

3 жыл бұрын

@@kammy6340 Well said! (both of your comments) I can't rock with Walker and have always felt a weird 'shady cop' vibe from him. From episode 2 onward the signs were there obviously, the serum (and the death of his friend) just eliminated those filters. Even aware that people were watching he still carried on with a public execution. Steve, with all the bullying he went through and feeling inferior, never went on a rage to murder after being injected. And nice callback to Black Panther, that was a big part of T'Challa's character development and connects to what he told Zemo in Civil War that he will not allow hatred to cloud his heart because he's seen what it does to people. Also goes back to what his father and Nakia (Nakia was always right) spoke to him about being a good man versus being a good king. Walker is a good soldier - just the way the government wants him to be (and he's damn impressive with throwing the shield), but Steve was a good man and his heart and moral compass is what got him the respect he got, not a uniform or achievements/badges or a title of authority - the love & respect was natural with Steve (plus Thor's hammer likes him!!). Sam-although he's been doubting himself-has shown each episode through interactions with others (the scene with he and Karli talking was nice) why Steve chose him; he just has to realize this himself. This show gets better with all their main characters each episode!

@afriendlycadian9857

3 жыл бұрын

america said he was kill and destroy hydra which he did and yes walker killed the wrong guy but with the rage from his friend being brutally killed in front of him and he was good his conversations with lemar show this but the crap given to him by everyone and the pressure from up top for results

@Persephone_Personified

3 жыл бұрын

@a friendly Cadian Did u comment on the wrong thread mate?... Because I read your comment four times and I still can't make heads for tales of it.... 🤷🏾‍♀️

First scene Ayo called Bucky White Wolf, after Bucky got in her way, she called him James. He is no longer welcome in Wakanda.

@har5814

3 жыл бұрын

That's disheartening

@whattwowhat

3 жыл бұрын

@@har5814 They lost their King, and the Dora Milaje would do anything to protect Wakanda. Okoye nearly killed her husband in Black Panther to uphold their duty, Bucky isn't even that close. Ayo was right when she said Bucky didn't get their loss and shame.

@har5814

3 жыл бұрын

@@whattwowhat she's right . Bucky is not worth it.

@rabbitazteca23

3 жыл бұрын

Right at that moment I knew they had abandoned him and disowned him as the White Wolf.

@salmanfarruz

3 жыл бұрын

Relax. If they cut ties with Bucky, they would have taken back the arm.

Walker is on the path to the villain he’s meant to be Also I completely understand and sympathize with the dude but he’s incredibly unstable

@Sid_Vintage

3 жыл бұрын

He’s not a villain

@larrythelobster2158

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sid_Vintage I don't think he is a villain yet but I think he will be. Cus I know they gonna take the shield and give it to Sam. That might lead to jealousy for walker and he might trynna kill him of some shit. Walker is unstable

@Sid_Vintage

3 жыл бұрын

@@larrythelobster2158 he’s an anti hero

@larrythelobster2158

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sid_Vintage oh ya that would make much more sense. Ok it's settled walker will be an anti villain

@Ronin-kk4bt

3 жыл бұрын

No he’s not a villain he’s what you call an anti hero these are people that save people but they will also go as far as killing to do it. Example of anti heroes are wolverine dead pool blade the punisher

Ironic how Nico looked up to Captain America while he held new Cap down as Karli tried to stab him to death.

Walker with the super saiyan crackhead energy.

@rohanalias9053

3 жыл бұрын

It gave me goosebumps for some reason

"Can you blame the man?" When you pick up that shield, yes you can.

Kudos, you are the first reactor I've seen who has been able to empathize with Walker. He's really a tragic character who's arc has been a fall from grace.

@deliriousraven9177

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking, I don’t understand all the hate. Bucky and Sam just straight up criticized him due to being inexperienced. I guess were expecting him to fight Thanos, Ultron, and Red Skull on his resume or something. The reason Steve was good as Cap because he was pure from not being in combat directly and the serum built on the purity. Walker was a soldier and saw brutal things in Afghanistan, so the serum is working differently, he isn’t as pure, doesn’t make him bad though. Like Bucky probably wouldn’t have been pure if he got the serum the first time that he was captured.

@MissMusicForYou

3 жыл бұрын

@@deliriousraven9177 Walker didn't see brutal things in Afghanistan, he DID brutal things there. Talked about how they did immoral and wrong things. He's fucked up morally, and has no anger or impulse control. He's the brutaliser.

@EraseMemoriesHD

3 жыл бұрын

@@deliriousraven9177 He’s the complete opposite of Steve, and completely shit on everything Steve stood for, so yeah most people aren’t going to empathize with him.

@plstmb6000

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's because Walkers is inexperienced, but because Walker are too cocky, emotional and impatient. He's good man, but he needs someone like Lemar to help him learn humility.

@anonymes2884

3 жыл бұрын

Ah, interesting. All but one of the 6 or so i've seen so far have said something like "I kinda feel bad for him though" and one or two are even _actively_ on his side (yep, _after_ that last shot). Apparently we watch different reactors :).

There's something about that final shot, the blood on the shield, kind of unsettling. All the 10 years of Captain America, I can't think of a scene where i have seen the shield having blood on it.

@JTtheMid

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. It shows a stark difference between Steve and John.

@thanos7459

3 жыл бұрын

because marvel keeps it pg. realistically the shield would have had tons of blood

@mriddley

3 жыл бұрын

That's what happens when someone who doesnt deserve it holds on to it this is why you dont send a soldier to do a hero's job

@redeyepeyton

3 жыл бұрын

@@mriddley oh man so many people are gonna be triggered by this lol

@blackfrieza1912

3 жыл бұрын

@@mriddley. That's a dumbass comment like wtf😂

And this is why I’m shockingly loving John Walker. This show is a great showing of the problems facing veterans

@unitedstatesofamerica9948

3 жыл бұрын

Yes - they will get thrown under the bus in an instant and sending people to combat and expecting them to be angels to the enemy in the times you specify they should, ALL the time, is unrealistic.

"This is why you were chosen. Because a strong man, who has known power all his life, may lose respect for that power. But a weak man knows the value of strength, and knows compassion." Walker disgraced the shield.

Eye of an eye was exactly my first thought at that point

“Good becomes great. Bad becomes worse” Walker keeps saying he’s trying to do the right thing, but every time he does something he just proves that he’s arrogant and impatient. I feel bad for Lemar because he could see that Walker could snap any minute. Walker was ready to hurt someone even before what happens Lemar. This episode just showed why Sam is the perfect Captain America. He’s listens and tries. And most importantly he’s a good man.

@layton6202

3 жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie if you look at it objectively there is no actual reason to hate him he's hot heated at times but could you blame him, dudes, been trying his best has this expectation on him but kept on getting disrespected at every turn, even when he saved Sam and Bucky instead of at least thanking him they just belittled him for no reason when he got Bucky out of jail and reached out they still disrespected him, there's only so many times you could let that slide. If they tried to get along with him in the beginning then thing's would have worked out and he would trust them but they're out here breaking out the dude who killed the king of Wakanda and fucked the avengers. If you really look at it Bucky and Sam been the ones who were being crazy this entire. Captain America was always just something the government made up to push propaganda what you're talking about is Steve and his ideology and even then Steve has fucked up too especially in civil war. Steve was my favourite character but I don't hate walker at all Sam and Bucky have the assholes but none says anything it's very easy to see Walker isn't Steve nor is he trying to be why is it so hard for others to see that too. Tichala would have killed klaw if it none stopped him don't act like he just stopped by himself, Steve would have killed Tony if he killed Bucky in front of him he went berzerk just from seeing his arm beamed off.

That's the thing for me. Walker may have been trying to do what he thought was right, but Steve Rogers always DID what was right even when he was a 94-pound guy getting his butt handed to him by bullies. Captain America is just a name given to who Steve was, it's not someone/some ideal he was trying to be. Walker was put in the position of trying to emulate someone he isn't and that stress combined with the serum and Lemar finally broke him. Funny thing is, even Lemar saw what was happening. Look at his face when Walker says "Should I put down the shield and make it a fair fight".

@cormano64

3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone noticed! Lemar wasn't really down with Walker on that moment at all. His defenders should really take a step back and realize that even his friend and ally was picking up on his wrong vibes.

@unitedstatesofamerica9948

3 жыл бұрын

True. Walker lost the right to wield the shield. In the comic book world. In the real world, you fight violence with violence, period. The more enemy individuals die, the better, however they die. Innocent people dying when it may have been massively preventable is what truly constitutes a war crime.

And just like that John Walker killed Captain America..

@artdogg50

3 жыл бұрын

Which is what most of his fans seem to forget.

@ux2099

3 жыл бұрын

And now will turn into US agent

@BarakatheCollector

3 жыл бұрын

@Solo Have you ever considered poetry?

@fortyseven1476

3 жыл бұрын

Steve Rogers: YOU KNOW MUCH I SACRIFICED!

@mattryan7124

3 жыл бұрын

How long before Secretary Ross comes in to offer John Walker and Zemo a place on his team, The Thunderbolts.

I laughed my ass off when M-dogg says "that's debatable." 20:26

@Ronin-kk4bt

3 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

One if the most amazing arcs for Walker I have seen in such a short screen time. Hats off to Wyatt Russell.

You guys are one of the only people I’ve seen defending John I personally disagree.Walkers been showing how impatient and arrogant he is from the beginning and killing that man was horrible,not only for him but for what Captain America symbolizes.That was very irresponsible of him.The poor guy was surrendering but John still killed him.He is not up for this responsibility.Also remember what Erskine said “Don’t be perfect soldier but a good man” The fact that Steve had more heart than John even before the serum,shows how very different they are...

@ItsSpoRTan

3 жыл бұрын

They are very different but the problem with John is that his impatient behavior probably comes from his time in Afghanistan where he probably lost brothers there. The whole talk on we could have saved more people. And yes that was totally unacceptable as “Captain America” but how many heroes would have killed to get vengeance? A lot of them would have. The one time we need therapy sessions there isn’t one 😭

@ejc10yearsago85

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine if your best friend was killed infront of you, I’d probably do the exact same

@Salik96

3 жыл бұрын

@@ejc10yearsago85 And he has PTSD.

😅 I just realised the Dora Milaje's theme is like "whoop whoop whoop whoop" more like that's what gonna happen to your ass if you mess with them.

Sam is an Avenger. He can hold his own or access the situation. Walker doesn’t respect him because he’s not a super soldier. I don’t think he was running in to save him. He wanted to get to Karli and that serum. Sam didn’t put up a fight when Bucky said he was coming with him.

@afriendlycadian9857

3 жыл бұрын

mate bucky and sam gave walker shit from the start not the other way round

@ateam404

3 жыл бұрын

@@afriendlycadian9857 As soon as Walker became Captain America what did he do? Seek them out, tracking them, constantly running behind them and busting into what they got going on trying to take over and boss people. They have never looked for him, asked about him, called his ass on the phone or asked for his help. This is something Torres discovered and Sam followed up. Walker is competing in a one man race. I am sure there are other things he could be focusing on. It’s part of the narrative.

@user-nn5kk7gm8d

2 жыл бұрын

@@ateam404 Cap

"The serum amplifies everything that is inside, so good becomes great; bad becomes worse." - Dr. Erskine. "Power just makes a person more of themselves, right?" - Battlestar.

Lamar only died because Walker escalated things by caving to pressure.

@layton6202

3 жыл бұрын

He died because they refused to help him instead choice break out and run around with the person who destroyed the avengers and blew up the UN killing others as well as the king of Wakanda, but yeah he's suppose to trust them and they did nothing wrong... fuck off

THANK YOU. You are literally one of the few reactors who actually has some empathy for my man John. Everyone else antagonize him for dumb reasons and don't even try to see things from his perspective. He's not some insane monster, he's human. Of course he's gonna take the serum. Of course he's gonna go after the people for killing his best friend to take revenge. It's the human thing to do.

@umairbutt1355

3 жыл бұрын

It's a human thing to brutally execute a defeated enemy with his hands up? Begging for his life? Maybe your humanity. Not mine. I agree about walker, and I feel for him. He's human, is troubled, and has his flaws like us all. Unfortunately for walker those flaws he has will turn him into a monster now that he's taken the serum. Since "good becomes great, bad becomes worse".

@Sorgh_um

3 жыл бұрын

@@happyhogan5910 This is exactly why no one understands these situations. What you all mean by "what cap's supposed to be" is that Cap is supposed to be exactly like Steve Rogers. Because he has all the moral answers to everything. No one can change themselves 180 to be the "Perfect Captain America", "The Clone of Steve Rogers". That's simply John Walker is playing the cards's he's dealt. The government chose him and it would be stupid to refuse the mantle.He is mentally trying to do what he thinks is good/right. And he has an enormous pressure on his back to fill in the shoes that Cap left which is impossible to fill. Whatever he does he will never be enough and that is a pretty depressing situation. No one tries to see things from HIS perspective. A human's perspective. But everyone keeps mumbling about "What Captain America's supposed to be."

@Sorgh_um

3 жыл бұрын

@@umairbutt1355 It is a human thing wanting to kill and seek revenge from a man who tried to murder you a minute ago and caused your best friend to die.

@umairbutt1355

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sorgh_um Wanting and doing are two different things. Wanting yes, humans get emotional. Understandable given the circumstances. But doing it, the way it was done here? Well, like I said, maybe it's human to you. But not to me.

@Sorgh_um

3 жыл бұрын

​@@umairbutt1355 So, you are saying that if someone very close to you gets killed in front of you. And you have the power and means to get revenge without big repercussions. (Like getting jailed for life) You wouldn't do it? I don't know about you but if you look at the situation realistically you are in the minority. Most people I know would avenge their close one.

The beginning with Bucky and Ayo was emotional as f*ck, great acting.

I do blame him though, nothing justifies cold blood murder. Steve had almost everything taken from him, didn't turn him into a killer

Another super entertaining reaction. I lost count of the number of times John Walker messed up and made a bad situation worse. It had nothing to do with people crapping on him. Lamar told him in the first episode that he can’t punch his way out of every situation. He is woefully under qualified for the job...not because of his physical attributes (or lack there of)...but due to his lack of compassion , poor strategist, inability to think under pressure, inferiority complex , anger issues, PTSD, and he looks mad weird with his mask on. 😂 Worst Captain America ever. He’s about to get fired, but they gotta fire the person that picked him too. Fire the GM, the head coach and cut the player. Time to rebuild 😂

@s.t2575

3 жыл бұрын

All y'all is fired put that shit back in the museum!

@CWargh63

3 жыл бұрын

Tactics are short range short term, strategy is long term and range. Walker is a great tactician, shit strategist.

@rabbitazteca23

3 жыл бұрын

yeah. He took the super serum because he felt inferior, NOT because he wanted to do good.

@sandlotjones2092

3 жыл бұрын

@@rabbitazteca23 you would too if you were up against the stuff he has to face. We can praise Cap all we want, but without the serum he would have been dead 10 times over.

@mlwhite2894

3 жыл бұрын

The serum only brought out "Walker's mental instability".

John Walker is a loose cannon...leaving a bloody mess in 4K.

@Ronin-kk4bt

3 жыл бұрын

Caught in 4K!

@johnnyskinwalker4095

3 жыл бұрын

If it's anything like the comics, you hain't seen nothing yet! lol

That footage of Zemo hitting that Hennie drink while Walker getting his ass kicked was classic. I love that character he is so smooth dude is playing chess with everyone. Once Zemo saw the Dora put in that work on Walker he made that quite exit like shiiid I'm not leaving with them LMAO.....

From Captain America to US Agent. 👏👏👏

“Can you blame the man?” Yes I can! Lmao

@nwfiIm

3 жыл бұрын

RIGHT??

@emmanuelu

3 жыл бұрын

you cant.

@OriginSYAGITH

3 жыл бұрын

So let that be your brother you not going to do something about it?

@thrasherwp9432

3 жыл бұрын

@@OriginSYAGITH Steve Rodgers never would have killed

@flyd.flowlight9057

3 жыл бұрын

the problem is people hold walker to the same standards as a regular person would in the same situation. but steve set a completely different standard for the captain america mantle. steve also went through the same shit walker did but his moral compass NEVER wavered. so yeah, i can blame him!

Here is the thing. I have 0 sympathy for John as his ego is what lead him to take the serum. He's a good soldier, but not a good Captain America. Steve wouldnt kill out of vengeance, he'd only kill if necessary. The serum amplifies what is already there. What we see is what he always wanted to do if he had the ability. If he wanted to do the right thing he should have just given the shield to Sam or Bucky. Sam held his own without the serum where John couldn't.

@kingcobra9818

3 жыл бұрын

Sam also had wings and technology backing him up.

@unknowngaming1432

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingcobra9818 John had Steve's shield. A vibranium shield, that should be enough.

@clarradactyl7791

3 жыл бұрын

exactly! we’ve seen what sam, and other non-powered avengers (black widow, hawkeye) and the dora milaje can do in a fight john walker wasn’t ready for this at all, and wasn’t the right kind of person to take the serum either.

@afriendlycadian9857

3 жыл бұрын

his ego isn't as big as what everyone says you forget the new captain America works under the us government meaning they were driving up pressure for him to get results then not having serum got him defeated by everyone else, people also gave him shit from first meeting him and when he asked for help or offered it got turned away then his friend and comrade from afghan is killed in front of him and instead of stopping the killers run away and she did mean to kill him

@unknowngaming1432

3 жыл бұрын

@@afriendlycadian9857 I didnt forget he works for the US Government. But he still let his ego get the best of him. He took the serum because he couldn't handle the fact that he wasn't strong enough to even have a chance at beating the DM. He also wouldnt let Sam and Bucky do their thing because he couldn't handle being sidelined. He took the Serum because "he had to be Captain America" even though he could have stepped down. Again, Sam and Bucky would be perfect, but he refused to allow that to be an option. I saw his kindness as more of a manipulation tactic than genuine kindness. Allow people to trust you so that you get your way.

you guys have the most interesting view on Walker, probably the only ppl online who don't just hate him for what he did. I honestly never even considered that it's really justified how he snaps, being treated like trash for the whole show

@redeyepeyton

3 жыл бұрын

I love the character but he’s meant to be a villain so I “hate” him

@blackfrieza1912

3 жыл бұрын

@@redeyepeyton. Not a villian a anti hero just like in the comics

@kaylaray5608

3 жыл бұрын

@@BowmansWorld the character is written to highlight the reasons that he is different from Steve Rogers, who made the uniform and persona what it is. Look beyond the surface level. People don’t dislike him just to dislike him there’s a reason. Yes his intentions are good and he desires to prove himself. But there can never be another Steve. Steve was one of a kind, and yes your intentions can initially be “pure” but when things get hard it is about how you react and handle situations. Perfect example, the writers wrote the last scene of the episode to parallel Iron Man and Caps fight in Civil War, where Steve nearly murdered Tony with the shield, but didn’t. The difference is that Walker wasn’t meant to have that level of power and stature, and so he couldn’t do what Steve could. Point is, instead of making him the new Cap they should’ve given him an entirely different persona *inspired* by Cap. “Captain America” is too much pressure for the average “good guy”. Ask yourself would Walker ever be able to lift Thor’s hammer. The answer is no, and that’s ok

@cedrichicks897

3 жыл бұрын

@@kaylaray5608 but most of the best people cant, such as Sam.

@kaylaray5608

3 жыл бұрын

@@cedrichicks897 Realistically the best bet would be to either trust the man that COULD lift the hammers first choice, or nobody. John Walker represents your average “good guy”, like you and I. We can be good at heart or whatever but we would be too flawed and unable to handle the *true* legacy behind the shield, uniform and name. It’s that simple

I'm a simple person when I see struggleNation upload I click 😆

Nah, John let his anger get the best of him and took a life. Plus, the serum amplifies who you are as a person. Like Erskein said, "Good becomes great, bad becomes worse." I'm with you lads though, I hope Lemar isn't dead. He was Walker's moral compass and a great addition to the show but it would make sense for John to go off the deep end now!

The parallel between Karli and Walker is so good. Both are in over their heads. The scene where Sam talks to Karli and she says do be condensending to me at the same time Walker is telling Bucky stop patronizing me. Both characters are at their ends.

First. Wyatt Russell is a boss ass actor and hopefully we will see more of him. Second. Karli killed Lamar. HE KILLED THE WRONG DAMN PERSON. Third. No one has the right to be judge jury and executioner. As a soldier you not supposed to kill someone who has surrendered no matter how mad you are. It’s called self control.

@Nick_Barone

3 жыл бұрын

And the Wakandan’s don’t have jurisdiction wherever they go

I never really comment, but I've been watching you guys for ages and I have to say I absolutely love both of your insights and thoughts on all of this. The way you guys think about the motives for the characters doing what they're doing, and how you don't judge shit on the surface level, makes you crazy entertaining to watch, and I always look forward to your reactions every week.

Dropped everything to see this reaction

I 100% agree with you, I think most people just don't like the idea of someone "replacing" captain america. But this captain america is basically the reason I watched some of these episodes, I love his character arc from the beginning to episode 6.

The new Cap was a hot head and never should've been picked to carry the mantle. He was fucking up almost from the begining. Lamar was the only one that kept him straight.

5:23 “You are free.” That brutal moment when you realize that Bucky was a slave and why it’s so powerful that it was the people of Wakanda who freed him. 😿

Struggle Soldier - “ if that happened to me, you would snap “ M-Dogg - “ that’s debatable “

The problem is that when he accepted the Captain America mantle, he had to be a good man rather than a good soldier. Unfortunately while it’s understandable for him snap, that just proves that he isn’t meant to be CA. Bucky has shown nothing but restraint since he joined Sam. He just isnt it.

This episode was on fire 🔥

4:13 when the reaction starts. Fly high DMX 🙏🏽🤍

John Walker forgot the most important lesson in Marvel Comics, "where there is great power there must be great responsibility." J.W. doesn't have the temperament as well as the power in beinging Captain America. Lemar Hoskins seemed to be more qualified mentally to hold the shield than Walker. I'm sure Ross or whoever just wanted the blond white guy.

First time watching your whole reaction video and I gotta say I love how you are one of the few that actually try to understand where Walker is coming from. Yeah, the ending was mental, but considering his PTSD, the pressure, the blame, and now Lemar's death, no wonder he went bananas.

17:36 this is the ultimate from 0 to 100 real quick moment