"Is that your religion?" That has got to be the only time I've seen the Doctor hesitate

@unixone7558

7 жыл бұрын

I know, if anything I find it chuckle-worthy

@plaguenumber3

7 жыл бұрын

LordTrayus they passed up on a good villain just letting this be a one off.

@firedrake372

7 жыл бұрын

the reason is probably due to the fact, if this thing came back at all, free. It would kill so many people before the doctor could do anything, if the doctor could do anything. this thing predates all of time, it know the doctors fears and his past, it would be the most dangerous force if it live through the black hole

@plaguenumber3

7 жыл бұрын

firedrake372 which would make his return an amazing season/series finale. The ultimate fear of all doctors having to be confronted, and the concern of the current doctor all summed in one monster and it's not just the typical foe. It's something that had already scared him, something that can make him feel the weight of all his sins, and something the doctor can't answer and solve on his own, he's going to have to leave his fate to someone else. Not someone he trained for this, but someone he doesn't know a stranger, the ultimate role reversal for the doctor.

@thevalleyard3942

7 жыл бұрын

I agree that would be super cool, I would also like to see the master confront Satan, imagine the master being outsmarted by another evil character, one who knows everything about why the master is a villain, why he is insane an the fact that deep down after all the battles,that the master just wants his friend back.

"Which devil are you then?" "ALL OF THEM." In my personal opinion, one of the scariest lines in Doctor Who. This has to be one of my favourite stories of the RTD era.

@mr.barcode3186

7 жыл бұрын

Oh without a doubt. This is one of my favorite New Who stories. I mean, I've seen classic stories that are infinitely better, but in terms of the new series, this is a total masterpiece.

@mariatolich4056

7 жыл бұрын

Dinozilla626 Of course Satan is all of them. He is behind all false religions. Some say that all these false religions are united as Babylon the Great, mother of harlots (rev 17 ) yes that true, but it's also part of the economic system.

@MCSocrates314

6 жыл бұрын

Isn't the Doctor the Dalek's devil?

@iHuzza

6 жыл бұрын

Nah, the Daleks don't have a religion. Even when they went nuts and made a religion at the end of series 1, pretty sure he still wasn't directly called the devil, just "heretic" and stuff like that.

@natp8888

6 жыл бұрын

False religion? That's a double negative right there.

"That's impossible. no life could have existed back then" "Is that your religion?" Love it when we're reminded there's things in the universe even the mighty Time Lords don't know, from Weeping Angels to the thing on Midnight

@tomnorton4277

2 жыл бұрын

The Time Lords knew about the Weeping Angels. Rassilon mentioned them in The End of Time and the Doctor knew how they operated in their very first episode. The Midnight Monster on the other hand...

@tangroro

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomnorton4277 he didn't, the Doctor didn't know an image of an Angel is the Angel, he clearly only knew the surface

@josephwilliams5292

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t there an implication in 10s last episode that the time lords accidentally created the weeping angels when they exiled some of their own?

@tangroro

Жыл бұрын

@@josephwilliams5292 I'm pretty sure that's not the case, they only said the ones who voted opposite will cover their face in shame for eternity, just like the Weeping Angels, so clearly Weeping Angels are already a thing

@squamish4244

Жыл бұрын

Neil Gaiman wrote a Dr. Who short story where the Doctor trapped a being in the time before the Big Bang i.e. no time at all, so the being was stuck in the eternal present.

Jesus Christ. Ten years later and this still freaks me out. The dialogue is just perfect.

@SceneSurgeSnippets

7 жыл бұрын

agreed 100%

@giornogiovanna2382

4 жыл бұрын

Not jesus, it's satan, get it heh?

@savaged49

4 жыл бұрын

And another 3 years after that

@jesseberg3271

4 жыл бұрын

Think about how much cgi has developed in the interim. Think about how many things from that timeframe look silly now. Anybody laughing at the (relatively) low rez devil? I'm certainly not.

@Tobo226

4 жыл бұрын

It really is I miss this dr who

"The Killer of his own kind". I love the Doctor's face when he hears that.

@Daioblis

7 жыл бұрын

#TRIGGERED

@fangsabre

5 жыл бұрын

And I name the Kinslayer, The Pale Rider, and Death.

@abidkhan-pm3gf

5 жыл бұрын

He changed the subject

@christophercarey3232

5 жыл бұрын

The Devil too would make a good Dalek. Just Sayin'.

@daddymothmaster2920

4 жыл бұрын

I want to like this, but also want to keep at 666

"and the virgin" you may be the devil but that was uncalled for haha

@DrRhyhm

7 жыл бұрын

smidget whittington well if you think about it he was the one who got possesed, maybe Satan needed a pure soul/body?

@lordleo9047

7 жыл бұрын

the devil highkey a savage tbh

@thevalleyard3942

7 жыл бұрын

Hmm look whos talking, I doubt any giant ladies just came up to get with satan on the edge of a black hole

@hashmasterflash3951

6 жыл бұрын

And they do say virginity is the key to immortality thats why the beast went for Toby because the others weren't virgins

@julianmarrison1848

6 жыл бұрын

Well the beast does have a child, if you watched Torchwood there was a creature called Abbadon who is confirmed to be the son of the beast.

Highlights: - The exasperation in the Beast's voice as he repeats "Before time." Like, you can sense that, to him, it's simple and obvious and the fact that the Doctor isn't getting it aggravates him. - "Is that YOUR religion?" - "You will die... and I will LIVE." Just... you get the sense almost that the mere fact that they're alive is anathema to the Beast. - The way the cable snaps just as the Doctor is hitting the climax of his feel-good rally speech. You can feel the malice of the Beast in that moment, trying to cut off the group from this dangerous source of hope.

@varric

3 жыл бұрын

Also: - "Before THIS Universe was created." Which implies that existed another universe before this one.

@luckoftheirish5662

3 жыл бұрын

@@varric The Sixth Doctor once theorized that there was a universe before this one where the concepts of Time and Space held no meaning and reality as you know it would have been completely different. That universe would have been governed by a completely different set of rules. The creatures that existed back then are called the Old Ones, and it's implied that the Beast is one of them.

@1nfinitune533

Жыл бұрын

"The valiant child, who will die in battle so very soon" Foreshadowing Doomsday, where Rose was sent to a parallel universe and back home she was officially listed as dead

I love how the Beast uses a slightly different voice for each character it's like it knows them each intimately enough to use the exact tone of voice to frighten them all the more

@serenaistheb.o.a.t

5 жыл бұрын

And notice how when he said "the virgin" to Toby the dominant voice is lighter and almost like a mocking voice from a female.

@themostbritishpersonalive868

4 жыл бұрын

@@serenaistheb.o.a.t THIS IS A KIDS SHOW

@cykablyat6348

4 жыл бұрын

@@themostbritishpersonalive868 how

@themostbritishpersonalive868

4 жыл бұрын

@@cykablyat6348 ok so basically I'm pretty sure it is NOT a kids show but I'm gonna go look up the rating

@themostbritishpersonalive868

4 жыл бұрын

@@cykablyat6348 nvm it's PG

The Beast has to be my favorite "one-off" Doctor Who villain of all time just the way he gets into everyone's head and seems to instantly know your darkest secrets and use them against you and the way he seems to know more about the universe than The Doctor himself makes him an all the more terrifying villain.

@hesseldv57

8 жыл бұрын

well yeah. he truly is the truth behind the devil

@thetowerofbabble6307

6 жыл бұрын

mattiesensei666 well, he was BEFORE the universe. His very being is in every shadow, nook, crany, crack, crevice, abyss, mind, and so much more.

@mrflibble1259

5 жыл бұрын

In the final episode of Torchwood series 1, there is a creature called abbadon the destroyer which is a decendant of the great beast of krop tor. It's a really feckin cool callback

@rekaadang

5 жыл бұрын

You need to meet Sutekh.

@cosuinofdeath

4 жыл бұрын

Eureka Adang good your evil is my good. Where I walk I leave nothing but dust and darkness I find that good.

I sometimes feel like people don't appreciate how special these two episodes are to the Doctor Who universe. I found it very intriguing because the Doctor had come upon something that was not even in his realm of understanding. And even in the end, to this day we're not fully sure what that "Satan" creature was. I understand that even though the Doctor doesn't know everything and has demonstrated this on multiple occasions I still find it very interesting that this creature stumped him when he said "Is that your religion?" because up until that point, the Doctor was the most knowledgeable person in these episodes, and with those four words his knowledge was put into question by even himself.

@jasonng04

7 жыл бұрын

As Doctor Who has explored many times "myths and legends are based on the truth" it doesn't matter which theistic religion you believe in this is the real ultimate evil, more evil than any evil human as we cannot physically be that evil.

@thevalleyard3942

7 жыл бұрын

Wow good point

@Yo-ji1gn

7 жыл бұрын

Gizmogirl192 These were the gretaest

@mrflibble1259

6 жыл бұрын

Gizmogirl192 these are, literally, no exaggeration, my all time favourite doctor who episodes. I adore these two stories, especially the impossible planet. They are just brilliant

@thetowerofbabble6307

6 жыл бұрын

Sonpahien Gōnun what if imprisoning him actually caused the Big Bang? Think of it, he was basically the incarnation of darkness. When he was free, darkness and untold cruelty was everywhere. When the disciples of LIGHT imprisoned it, wouldn’t that herald an new age? One of light? Wouldn’t the Big Bang be the brightest of lights?

To think that this episode was written by a bloke called Matt Jones who no-one has ever heard of since. This story is in my opinion almost perfect

@sidneyfrederickson3941

5 жыл бұрын

Excellent writing, Creepy "Aliens" style sets, great guest stars that you know you have seen before somewhere, great sound and visual effects (the dead crew member floating above the dome, a look of horror on her frozen face) and the direction that creates a slow burn, not to mention the immediate creepiness of the Ood. It's no wonder this is considered one of the top Tennant era Doctor Whos

@ericjohnson9623

5 жыл бұрын

Just to clarify, it has been said in a lot of places, including The Writer's Tale, that head writer Russell T. Davies did a page one rewrite of this story and created what it is today. The dialogue in this clip is almost certainly 100% RTD. The snippets of Matt Jones' version he discusses sounds like a very different version, with Rose being possessed and the Slitheen as humanity's slave race. RTD replaced them with the Ood during the rewrite, which is why when the Ood reappear in the Steven Moffat era, the end credits say "Ood Created by Russell T. Davies," not Matt Jones. RTD went without credit because he was being paid enough as Executive Producer and a co-wrote credit takes away residuals and money from the freelance writer.

@ChristianProtossDragoon

3 жыл бұрын

@@ericjohnson9623 Oh...

@antonitocotter447

2 жыл бұрын

@@ericjohnson9623 Still doesn't change how terrifying it'd be to be in that position.... fighting the Devil HIMSELF....... how would humanity even BEGIN with trying to fight Satan himself....?!??

@discordmoderator2912

Жыл бұрын

Has he not written anything since? Seriously? These two episodes came out on the 6th of June, 2006. I dont need to point out the obvious there but these episodes could have easily been an entire sci-fi horror movie on its own comparable to Aliens or Event Horizon, and it gives off VERY heavy Event Horizon vibes.

"When was this?" "Before time" "Now what does that mean?" "Before time" "WHAT DOES BEFORE TIME MEAN?" "Before time, and light, and space, and matter. Before the cataclysm. Before this universe was created" "That's impossible. no life could have existed back then" "Is that YOUR religion?" In my personal opinion, that is the most menacing moment of Doctor Who I've ever seen.

@Alishondra

9 жыл бұрын

I find this one of the most epic moments in Doctor Who.. Those words make one feel truly puny

@hylian2027

9 жыл бұрын

Lindsey S. true

@Mypetdalek

9 жыл бұрын

AstroManX100 Nothing like a bit of Lovecraftian horror.

@AstroManX100

9 жыл бұрын

Mypetdalek I haven't actually read any Lovecraft book (though I do intend on doing so), but I am familiar with the theme of it, and I do agree with you.

@ABrokenSociety

9 жыл бұрын

AstroManX100 Meh. I thought it was just a way for the writers to please the ones who though the show is godless. It's apparently that the Doctor is an atheist, which is fine. The show is pretty atheistic/agnostic, which is good. It's hardly, if ever brought God or Satan into it's lines, and then this episode happened. I wasn't a fan of this episode at all.

1:35-1:41 I love how the Doctor's face goes from confidence to caution, just like that. It's like he's truly realizing the potential magnitude of what he's dealing with, how small he is compared to his enemy.

@peterweatherley7669

8 ай бұрын

Such incredible acting by Tennant :)

"Before time, and light, and space, and matter, before the cataclysm, before this universe was created" this was one of my favourite storylines in Doctor Who to this day, I love how they managed to create an antagonist that even the Doctor couldn't comprehend fully and fell outside his understand of space and time itself.

@ChildOfTheWilderness

4 жыл бұрын

@KRYMauL Indeed. Omega was far more knowledgeable & powerful than The Doctor.

@hollyyotiwahhe9888

3 жыл бұрын

maybe you should read enoch the catholic dropped from the bible..

@Arvidus89

Жыл бұрын

Too bad they never followed up on that concept, it's one of my biggest gripes with the later seasons.

@alisonpurgatory85

Жыл бұрын

@@Arvidus89 I think it was perfect that they didn't. They kept it a mystery that no one could solve or reckon with, just moving on with their lives and adventures with the knowledge that they cannot take their most basic assumptions of the physics of the universe as fact anymore, not even a Time Lord

@TheTideKing004

6 ай бұрын

​@@alisonpurgatory85we never found out what happened to it either. The beast is coming or rather... he is waiting.

"The killer of his own kind." That was the very moment I fell hopelessly in love with the series. It made me so unbelievable curious.

I love the Beast's voice. Genuinely scary.

@iLikeTheUDK

9 жыл бұрын

He was voiced by the same guy who voiced Sutekh in the Fourth Doctor story "Pyramids of Mars".

@AlchemistOfNirnroot

9 жыл бұрын

iLikeTheUDK I loved that story :P

@pvtrichter88

9 жыл бұрын

iLikeTheUDK it would explain why i get those same eerie chills great voice actor!!

@Kasparovwannabe

9 жыл бұрын

iLikeTheUDK REALLY? They went totally different directions with the voice, that's impressive work from the actor.

@Harvester236

9 жыл бұрын

Darkstar263 The monsters/creatures used to be scary, now they're just laughable since RTD left.

"This one knows me... as I know him. The killer of his own kind..." Still sends me chills.

@SigalDa

3 жыл бұрын

If he was know him he was say the one who sed is own kind to other universe

@samcochran8203

2 жыл бұрын

@@SigalDa the beast was preying on basic insecurities, even the doctors, his was that all the lines of evidence that he had found for it were absolutely and utterly true and he really had wiped out the timelords using the moment, given the fact that whenever 2 of himself interact with each other the younger can't remember what happened, the fact that he can't remember always gave him a sliver of doubt about what really happened, and a hope that he hadn't actually done it, the beast was preying on the fact despite the doctor had those doubts and hopes, hes not typically one to question his own surefire conclusions as he sees them. It's not out of the realm of possibility that the beast actually knows what happened to the timelords and their stasis in the last moment of the time war, just as he probably knows Rose doesn't really die, she just appears that way as she's on the list of the fallen at the battle of canary warf

@GreaterGrievobeast55

Жыл бұрын

@@samcochran8203 The beast if absolutely preying on the doctors insecurities for sure, but whether he’s fully aware of the truth or not is an interesting question. Given he’s a telepath it seems likely he peered into everyones minds and picked out their inner demons. Normally I wouldn’t doubt the beast would be equally capable of observing event across the universe, but he _has_ been asleep, then again he’d have to have gotten some of those names while the universe was still around so he might’ve had some dormant presence?? Oh it’s very tricky!

@SamuelBlack84

8 ай бұрын

It's the same voice actor for Sutekh So, in a way, the Doctor does know him

@TheTideKing004

6 ай бұрын

​@@GreaterGrievobeast55he has cosmic awareness my guy. He has knowledge of events that span across the universe, he is the root of all versions of the devil in N-space. For that to be the case he would not only have to know that religions were rising for him to infiltrate the scripture of but also that there was life in the universe at all. From his pit that would be impossible unless he has cosmic awareness and was able to fragment his consciousness and send bits of himself to other planets and people across the vastness of space in order to properly insert himself into every religion.

"You little things that live in the light, clinging to your feeble suns, which die in the end. Only the darkness remains." I know what people mean when they compare this to Lovecraft's stuff - scary on a philosophical level!

@Silverwind87

5 жыл бұрын

The Great Old Ones and Outer Gods canonically exist in the expanded Whoniverse.

@milessemison4054

4 жыл бұрын

Crazy4hire Impossible. The sheer scale of entities like Yog Shothoth and Shub Niggurath makes them barely tangible, let alone mortal. Azathoth literally IS the universe (the nuclear chaos); a clever Time Lord wouldn’t stand a chance...

@ghanphol

4 жыл бұрын

@@milessemison4054 Azathoth isn't the universe. The universe is his dream. That's a significant difference. But yeah, it's been established that they can't die. And even if they could die, if one did, it'd be an event of such magnitude the universe would die with them.

@pillarmenn1936

4 жыл бұрын

@@crazy4hire139 If the Doctor himself is hesitant of the knowledge the Beast has given then I doubt he's gonna kick their asses

@ZigZag-mw9ir

4 жыл бұрын

ghanphol that’s actual Lovecraft, in Doctor who the Old ones are basically gods that outlived their old universe. One of the 3 origins of the great intelligence is that he is Yog Shothoth and his sister is Shub Niggurath whose is also the mother of the Nestene Consciousness. Which makes sense when you look at the its original form before it merged with a planet and it sometimes changes into.

watching tenant's face slowly evolve into realization is so entertaining and shows just how sinister this villain really is. hands down one of the best villain speeches from who ever

@chaosdweller

4 жыл бұрын

I liked it

The thing about The Doctor is he always talks to his foes and figures out what they're doing and how to stop it and they always just try and kill him or hold him prisoner. The Beast was the first villain I can remember that spoke down to The Doctor, to make him feel as if he wasn't this great ancient time lord but a small insect.

The Doctor's face when he says, "Is that *your* religion?" The feeling of being suddenly reduced.

@christophercarey3232

4 жыл бұрын

It's only a belief.

When the Beast says "Clinging to your suns" it really puts into perspective just how old the Beast is. It creates a gravitas makes you realize that any life in this universe originates from a solar system, and the Beast predates all of that; he came before the concept suns, or a system, reason, logic, or time itself, the Beast came before the the very concept of conception. So the Doctor is besides himself, he's encountered a being that defies all comprehension and for the first time he doesn't quite know what to make of it.

This is such an underrated scene just the way the beast speaks through them in sync taunting them is quite chilling

The Beast. The only being in the universe that can tell the Doctor, "You know nothing."

This episode was by far my favorite in the whole of the series. It had a very DOOM feel about it. I was half expecting The Doctor to grab a BFG9000 and start blasting the Ood with green exploding plasma.

@13legomania

9 жыл бұрын

MindProbe Yea, the doors.

@LukeMM95

8 жыл бұрын

+13legomania Agreed, this two parter is just badass. I especially love how we never get a true answer as to what the beast truly was or how he was able to do all the things it did. It makes it all the more creepy. The Doom feel is just the icing on the cake.

@jamesmccarthy962

8 жыл бұрын

+13legomania what is Doom?

@jamesmccarthy962

8 жыл бұрын

sounds cool, i know event horizon i was thinking it sounds a little like that as i read your description. I will have to try the games, are they old pc games or more recent consul games?

@ExecutionStyleInc

8 жыл бұрын

There is a new doom coming out soon, the OG was from 93, the "newest" currently released is Doom 3 from 2004. Honestly any fps player worth there salt is has played the 93 doom at some point.

Oh the reveal in last episode and watching back this, Sutekh and the Beast here are the same I have no doubts... or RTD just re-cycled the dialogues lol

@ArtyMartyD

Ай бұрын

They're definitely connected. In Pyramid of Mars he even refers to himself as Satan as one of his names.

@omituinenvipeltaja7182

Ай бұрын

The Beast says "This one knows me as I know him: the killer of his own kind." Wouldn't this wording mean they both know each other by that title? The Doctor obviously wiped out Gallifrey but Sutekh also destroyed his home planet Osiris as recalled by the Fourth Doctor. So if the Beast is Sutekh the Doctor would also know him as The Killer of His own kind

@flyhyland

Ай бұрын

Same voice actor.

10th Doctor: "Which devil are you?" The Beast: "All of them." Scary stuff.

@ChristianProtossDragoon

3 жыл бұрын

@@dragmaXE you're*

@dragmaXE

3 жыл бұрын

10th Doctor: "What then you're....the truth behind the myth?" The Beast: "This one knows me. As I know him the *killer* of his own kind!"

@ChristianProtossDragoon

3 жыл бұрын

@@dragmaXE "I AM THE SENATE."

@varric

Жыл бұрын

"Before time, and light, and space, and matter. Before the cataclysm. Before *THIS* Universe was created" The fact that the Beast put real enfasis in the "This" word, implies that another different Universe predated the current one.

@dparky1627

Жыл бұрын

@@varric, I would agree.

Before there was time, before there was anything, there was nothing. And before there was nothing...there were monsters

@eldritcheternity2247

6 жыл бұрын

"Here's your gold star!"

@Wolf-xy7xp

6 жыл бұрын

I actually came here after reading a quote from this video in the comments on a video from that adventure time video

@leandroreis546

6 жыл бұрын

Wolf OMG, me too!! XD

@Silverwind87

6 жыл бұрын

👏👏👏

@AzazelHash281

6 жыл бұрын

John Porteous I was thinking about it the whole time

"This one knows me, as I know him. The killer of his own kind." was actually a single sentence. He wasn't calling the Doctor the killer of his own kind, he was calling both of them that. They both know each other by the same name, as they both killed their own kind. DAMN.

One of the best ever doctor who stories.

@mrflibble1259

5 жыл бұрын

THE best doctor who story imo

@midwestmangos2452

5 жыл бұрын

@@mrflibble1259 idk, family of blood is a close tie for me

@willherondale6367

5 жыл бұрын

@@midwestmangos2452 yeah that's great too

@squamish4244

5 жыл бұрын

The other two-parter Human Nature/The Family of Blood is some next level shit too.

Anyone here after the Legend of Ruby Sunday!?

@nonotamermaid

Ай бұрын

🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️🙋‍♀️

@nextgenkilla7645

Ай бұрын

that was the theme, we finally getting the follow up

@flyhyland

Ай бұрын

@@nextgenkilla7645 The Beast is the same voice actor as Sutekh.

@schnellsnipezgaming3166

Ай бұрын

Where does The Beast rank amongst all the gods in dr who?

@thecrimsongem7954

29 күн бұрын

Cooler than sutehk imo… I wish this beast was in the new season. Would’ve been a dope callback!

I love how Dr. Who sets up possibly amazing storylines with just random throwaway lines. The Disciples of Light, the Gates of Elysium, the Jaws of the Nightmare Child, the army of meanwhiles and neverweres lead by the could've been king

@philiphockenbury6563

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely insane stuff.

@alisonpurgatory85

Жыл бұрын

Moffat's worst instinct as a writer was to revisit all of his throwaway evocative lines. They should all be kept to maintain mystery and imagination

@novarepter386

9 ай бұрын

I think they do that to give Big Finish some continuity to work with

“Before there was time, before there was anything, there was nothing, and before there was nothing... there were monsters.”

@eggegg7377

4 жыл бұрын

Scarlet Viking adventure who

@jayknowzz

4 жыл бұрын

Let's be friends

@lgchamp1999

4 жыл бұрын

Lennon Walsh Doctor Time

@drawnbyjd

4 жыл бұрын

That's from the Lich's speech from Adventure Time. A bit scary how accurate it is.

@lgchamp1999

4 жыл бұрын

Jd Santos “Here’s your gold star!”

Not gonna lie, THIS devil needs to come back to WHO. Out of all the enemies the doctor has, this one was able to do something that most others can't. Outsmart the Doctor.

@theblackone5937

4 жыл бұрын

I think it's better to leave it as a one time villain, to maintain the mystery about the devil

@Reader999

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe something connected to the Beast.

@henryasher1920

4 жыл бұрын

@@theblackone5937 thats true, but i agree with world of roleplay, some enemy connected to him somehow. But it's never going to happen, the writing is brain dead at the moment.

@ewilliaplays

4 жыл бұрын

He did in the comics, he ended up reforming on the other side of the universe, going to earth, transforming into Martha and getting locked into the time vortex by the doctor

@Vereid

4 жыл бұрын

I think only two monsters should be left mysterious in Doctor Who. This Satan/Toby and the monster from Midnight. Terrifying.

Honestly, one of the scariest villains in all of Doctor Who.

@Centurian128

6 жыл бұрын

Played by the great Gabriel Woolf himself. Also the voice of Sutekh the Destroyer from "Pyramids of Mars"

@chaosdweller

4 жыл бұрын

That movie was boring imo

@Lqw17

4 жыл бұрын

@Seven Sins agnostics are supposed to believe that there is no, and cannot be any evidence of the supernatural. Not that if there is proof, they'll believe it. I haven't read the argument you had with that guy, but I'm just disagreeing with the one thing you read. You aren't agnostic.

@Lqw17

4 жыл бұрын

@Seven Sins I didn't say people's beliefs can't change. I said that agnostics have a set belief and your belief doesn't fall under that category. And also why would you think I know what you are? Just because I know what you're not?

@Lqw17

4 жыл бұрын

@Seven Sins yea

This two parter is, in my personal opinion, the most well written episode of all the seasons since 2005 (I can't speak for pre renewal due to the fact that I haven't seen them). I wish that the Beast was brought back at some point (although seeing how the series has gone recently I should probably hope that such a fantastic villain is not tainted). The Beast is brilliant written, being more threatening than the Master and the Daleks combined. His speech, combined with the reactions of the all the characters, shows his incredible power and enigmatic persona. A creature that the Doctor feels genuinely ignorant of and is completely terrified of just because of what it says is something to praise.

@Flipper2704

7 жыл бұрын

I found that this episode and Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead are the only two that really scared me. I've never found the Weeping Angels scary except Angels in Manhattan because of the set up and the fact that there was so many of them. I've never found The Silence or The Empty Child scary.

@josephwilliams5292

Жыл бұрын

Midnight is also up there

@novarepter386

9 ай бұрын

@@Flipper2704 Know this is an old comment but have to say i 100% agree, I also thought this for years and it always bugs me that the Weeping Angels get all the glory and the Vashta Nerada haven't been used since (outside of the adventure games and Big Finish)

Doctor:”Our one advantage the beast is alone” The beast: *laughs in army of possessed ood*

@coachlombardi9657

Ай бұрын

Technically, they are all controlled by one person, so you can say that there is a very big number of one person.

*Is that your religion?* "Head moving a little bit on the side" That line, so much power in this with the little movement. You can just feel that "Devil" know so much more.

I find it surprising that no one has commented on the absolutely beautiful background music playing throughout this clip. It adds brilliantly to the ominous nature of the Beast.

@alisonpurgatory85

3 жыл бұрын

YES! I only really appreciated it after a few rewatches, the organ bit especially in the 'before time' part

“Before time…” I love how he doesn’t sound mad here, more like patiently annoyed.

The Beast, who is billions of years old really said to that guy "no bitches?"

Are we going to ignore the fact that The Beast's voice was also Sutekh's voice in Pyramids of Mars?

@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo

Ай бұрын

!!!!! 👀

@danielpease641

Ай бұрын

@@ItCameFromTheSkyBeLo yeah, you watch those episodes, back to back, and you'll be able to tell.

@immortallvulture

Ай бұрын

Gabriel Woolf. His voice is amazing.

Clinging to your feeble suns, that die, in the end. I love that quote really tells you how powerful this creature is

I think speaking through the Ood makes the Beast's voice so creepy - it sounds childlike and pure evil all at once...

You know what makes this better? The Beast is voiced by Gabriel Woolf. The Beast is voiced by *_Sutekh the Destroyer._*

@obscureentertainment8303

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe there's some connection between them.

@michaelchi1336

3 жыл бұрын

@@obscureentertainment8303 maybe he’s fought him before I mean sutekh can fight great old ones by himself

@WhyisAlpharius69

9 ай бұрын

@@michaelchi1336I kinda like the idea of two great evils clashing each other, the idea of Sutekh the great destroyer, the ultimate evil of the Osirans against The Beast, who is the myth behind every single demon and devil known to man clashing and trying to destroy each other sounds flat out chaotic and perfect.

@kalakritistudios

Ай бұрын

Well well well....

@davi0121

Ай бұрын

@@kalakritistudios aged rather well

I utterly LOVE this scene. I just love to see the Doctor start out all confident and irreverent, mocking the beast and sure that he knows everything about it, because he is a Time Master, the most knowledgeable being in this universe... and then realize that the Beast is something utterly alien even to him. Something he cannot rationally comprehend. Something that shakes the foundation of all of his knowledge.

Will Wheatley Yes but the entire point of this episode is to show that sometimes moving past something with a "I honestly don't know either way" is the best thing to do, and to not go "SCIENCE FTW" or "LOL RELIGION ANSWERS ALL". But to rationally go "Yeah, we just don't know. Was there a rational explanation or not? I can't say, either way". Because just blindly being on either side of the fence without any breathing room for a shrug here and there will just cloud your mind. The Doctor ends up just shrugging and not trying to answer either way if what he witnessed really WAS Satan. He doesn't try and go "NO IT CAN'T BE. SATAN DOESN'T EXIST", while at the same time they don't straight out say "YEAH IT WAS SATAN". I like that. It's a good message in all honesty, to not just blindly think one way or another and sometimes accept that you just don't know and might never know.

@kespec

10 жыл бұрын

_ipse se nihil scire id unum sciat_

@iceoriental123

7 жыл бұрын

I personally think it was bad writing. No not the science can't explain part. Instead of "What makes his version of the truth better than mine?" HE COULD HAVE JUST SAID "Some aliens are mind readers. I, myself, am mildly telepathic." And the Doctor has met the Great Old Ones, which i presume the Beast is a member of, so he's not going to shrug off the he can't exist thing.

@ZION73082

4 жыл бұрын

Umm not to rain on your parade but yes they do say it was Satan remember the painting of early man or beings trapping him in the black hole and the giant stone statues look allfully like angels 🤔😉

Suetkh has been busy

"The disciples of the light" most amazingly awesome name ever... °_°

@ABW941

9 жыл бұрын

Could be the Name of a Glam rock Band from the 80ies.

@qwertylazerti

9 жыл бұрын

ABW941 Lol. Still think it's an awesome name in the domain of gods and devils.

2:06 Wow, I didn't expect the Beast to say that.

I was always sorry that we never got to see the Beast with his mind in his body. I'd have loved to see the Doctor talk with the Beast in it's own body.

Love the organ music that accompanies the Beast.

The most unrealistic thing here is that nobody comments on the "Killer of his own kind" thing at 0.57

@Narutofan825

8 жыл бұрын

+NemoForTheWinning True that tells us a lot about the doctor

@jplegend98

6 жыл бұрын

Naniun. Rtd ruined it first by killing of the timelords

@Dragonlover553

5 жыл бұрын

They’re probably a little more focused on Literally Satan over there, but yeah, a glance or two was warranted.

I love the "is that your religion" line. The doctor supposedly "knows" or can figure out anything and everything, the thought that maybe someone or something thinks of the doctor the same way he thinks of the average human, or the same way someone thinks of a child. To be one of the smartest people in the room knowing there may be a new "truth" you cant comprehend is terrifying

"Is that your religion?" Damn the devil is sharp xD

There isn't a single part of this clip I don't love. Definitely the best two-parter in New!Who.

2022 and this episode is still a masterpiece in television 🐐

They need to bring back The Beast and have him face off against Capaldi.

@richardthelionheart8656

8 жыл бұрын

Nah, it's one of those things that only works once I think. It's such a mysterious creature I think it's best left that way.

@iHuzza

8 жыл бұрын

+Richard The Lionheart They could still have one of it's family or a related creature, like when Torchwood featured Abbadon, the son of the Beast. Either that or one of the "Trickster's Brigade" who're mentioned and rarely featured. I think both sets of villains could be used much better without divulging much about their nature.

@MrGeorgFTW

8 жыл бұрын

+Huzzamossi You know that the Trickster was the archvillain in the Sarah Jane Adventures? It was a reference to him.

@iHuzza

8 жыл бұрын

MrGeorgFTW Well not the archvillain, really. He appeared in 3 SJA stories in total. But the Trickster's Brigade is still used outside of little references. The bug and the fortune teller from "Turn Left" were both mentioned to be members of the Trickster's Brigade.

@teodorrydberg254

8 жыл бұрын

but tenth/tenant defeted him

Love how he picks rose over any and everything

@HeyitsJammin

10 жыл бұрын

The 10th Doctor and Rose brought out the worst in each other. They became selfish and big headed. ...I loved it.

"...church of the tin vagabond." What

@unixone7558

7 жыл бұрын

I mean, Christianity I could identify because I am Christian, and I could take a good guess at what "New Judaism" would be like. But for the others I'm legitimately curious, especially for that one.

@joellelittle9510

7 жыл бұрын

I reckon that it involves a Cyberman

@thevalleyard3942

7 жыл бұрын

I thought since he says "tin" he is mocking the devil, since their are so many religions you could be anyone

@midwestmangos2452

5 жыл бұрын

@@unixone7558 I thought he said neo Judaism, but I guess once translated it means the same thing either way.

@brianp6682

5 жыл бұрын

K9 survives for ages and eventually a religion builds up around him.

One of my favorite speeches from Doctor Who, it is so frightening and intimidating. I place this second only to the speech made about the fury of the timelord.

When the Beast says “before time and light and space and matter” he sounds so exasperated lol. Understandably too. He probably views the Doctor in the same way that many people view flat-earthers. Also, who else thinks that the Cataclysm is a far better name for the Big Bang?

1:42 "You know nothing, Jon Smith"

@Daioblis

7 жыл бұрын

*John

@finn_underwood

7 жыл бұрын

***** Jon Snow. John Smith. I needed to make the bridge somehow.

@varric

4 жыл бұрын

"You know nothing Barty Crouch Jr"

This two-parter was written perfectly!

It’s funny, I’ve starting reading some H.P. Lovecraft who often wrote about forbidden knowledge, the unknown and men of science discovering there were far greater things at work in the universe than they thought. Doctor Who moments like this sprung to mind because it gives off some Lovecraftian vibes for me, it’s amazing to see how far his influence has stretched! Episodes like Midnight also seem to fit the bill.

@TranscendentLion

Жыл бұрын

The expanded universe of Who really goes in for all the Lovecraft stuff - apparently, the Great Intelligence is Yog-Sothoth, Fenric is Hastur the Unspeakable, and the Doctor may or may not be Nyarlathotep.

Back when the story and plot where amazing in doctor who 😁

@MrFaorry

8 жыл бұрын

Back before Moffat screwed things up.

@mathewwalentowicz3081

8 жыл бұрын

+Dan G Moffat had a few good stories like empty child but he shouldn't of been allowed to take over

@grade8william

8 жыл бұрын

+Dan G he literally just made it so much better

@dmaxwell910901

8 жыл бұрын

Rewatch hell bent, asylum of the daleks, death in heaven, the snowmen, dark water, the witch's familiar, the wedding of river song and the beast below. All written by Moffat. Yep Soooo much better. At least RTD always tried to make a good episode. It didn't work every time but he didn't throw all potential out of the window like Moffat did in his finales. Hell bent ruined the return of Gallifrey focusing on Clara, DIH was one of many examples where Moffat handles a classic villain poorly (the cybermen). Compare asylum otd to the parting of the ways, where the daleks are a true intimidating threat. Moffat turns all classic villains into pushovers, or ruins their character (missy). RTD never just gave up and reused his old tropes and he didn't kill a character off multiple times in a season just to keep them alive to ruin the finale. Moffat has brought the show too far downhill. He simply doesn't try anymore.

@dmaxwell910901

8 жыл бұрын

That was a response to River btw

Pls, i would love to see this episode get a continuation in the series...The Doctor Vs Satan Part 2 for the win

@blackham7

7 жыл бұрын

We probably wont unless The Doctor takes off the safety off The TARDIS and Navcomms so we get more dangerous planets but I doubt he'll do that again after this ordeal.

Makes me think that before the universe, at least in the Doctor Who canon, what we now know to be the universe could have been several entangled singularities, all existing independently, and then the cataclysm came, and the merged to make one universe. The Beast may have come from a place of thought, joining with a place of matter to give it form, but then those singularities collided with a place of light, who then gave those that lived in darkness the ability to see, and they fought against the Beast, for whilst it once had predominant thought and form, light was where it lacked, and it was defeated. This is how life could have existed before the universe, multiple singularities coexisting until an event, the Big Bang, brought them into alignment and they became one.

@lochness5524

6 ай бұрын

Somebody call up RTD and hire this guy

I don't think I've seen anyone else comment this, but the quiet organ playing in the background really adds to the drama of this scene. It's so synonymous with religious themes, and it really adds character to the Beast. I think it really adds to the overall theme of the true Lovecraftian theme and threat the Beast truly represents

so the doctor killed satan......god i love this bloody show

@sidneyfrederickson3941

5 жыл бұрын

Killed the vessel. The entity is still locked in the black hole. Celestial beings can't be killed.

@ladyaceina

5 жыл бұрын

er no no he did not kill him at all as he exists as long as there is evil in where in the universe and any where in time he is a foe that can not be killed the entire point was that the doctor belives the good in people will never submit to hm

@lukensti

4 жыл бұрын

Connor O'Neill You can’t kill beings that exist on a metaphysical level. Even though one can assume he was created - by virtue of comparison to Christianity - he is still an angelic being, meaning he is immortal, but not eternal.

@lukensti

4 жыл бұрын

Patriotic Militant That’s not even what the Church teaches on the end times. The world will be glorified by God, made into the “land flowing with milk and honey” as promised to the Hebrews, and in turn, to Christians. Satan will be defeated, but God will not destroy His own creation.

@Jacobson5837

4 жыл бұрын

Beast's Entity cant be killed He mentioned at the end cuz it is Pure concept of Evil itself

" the girl who will die in battle very soon " then there's rose questioning with no answer about what it means man... I felt like hugging her D:

He's BAAACCCKKK

1:48 insane how similar this is to the scene at the end of Legend of Ruby Sunday. Even the music is the same

@RenoReborn

Ай бұрын

Well they were written by the same person....

@oatymilkshake

Ай бұрын

@@RenoReborn Well if you mean the writer of the episode then no, Russell didn’t write Impossible planet or Satan Pit, that was Matt Jones, if you mean the music then yes but typically when the same person writes multiple pieces of music they are distinct, this is very clearly done as an intentional callback to this episode.

"But that's how the devil works!" "OR a good pyschcologist"

I love how the beast sounds like a slightly annoyed adult trying to talk to children

It’s scary to think that after all he’s been through. Time and everywhere and knowledge of various cultures... there’s some stuff that’s still a mystery to the doctor

@Spartain14

4 жыл бұрын

Yup. To me, that was Doctor Who at it's best. I love episodes like this and Midnight.

I just had an epiphany. 1:24 "Before time and light and space and matter. Before the cataclysm." There was one other episode where a major "Cataclysm" was mentioned. Season 4, episode 13: Journey's End, spoken by the Supreme Dalek Commander. "The fleet will gather at The Crucible! All Daleks will return to shelter from the Cataclysm!" The Cataclysm that The Beast spoke of was the parallel reality where the Daleks successfully detonated The Reality Bomb, turning all realities to dust. Which raises even more questions. Just what was The Beast and who were The Disciples of The Light?

@ToxicBalloon360

8 жыл бұрын

+Necromedes I mean, the possibility of races older and much more stronger than the Timelords having died out long ago is not unlikely so.. maybe The Disciples of Light were one of them?

@Necro616

8 жыл бұрын

I really hope that they touch on this again later. This is too good to let die.

@ToxicBalloon360

8 жыл бұрын

Necromedes Yeah, I absolutely dislike the way the awesome villains are just a one-off and they just try to come up with new, failed ideas. New ideas are good but guys like this shouldn't be forgotten.

@ToxicBalloon360

8 жыл бұрын

ExecutionStyleInc Here, have my like, sir.

@ExecutionStyleInc

8 жыл бұрын

ToxicBalloon360 You could even say the Beast influence is what caused Davos to create the Daleks, and the Disciples of the light be to ancestors to the Timelords, as the show loves to deal with terms and themes like "History repeating its self". The Timelords always carried religious undertones like being Akin to Angels and heavenly beings, and there past is now lost and considered "legend",the Time war was said to effect a large portion of the universe, and was only felt by "higher beings", so it's possible the events in this universe was the Cataclysm on a smaller less violent scale. The only thing I kind of wonder was, The Disciples of the light vanished either through Time or went back to there own plain of existent, but whatever happened to the Disciples of Darkness???? Even the Daleks made it through the time war (if History again repeated its self). I always love episodes like this that really build the mythos even if they aren't expanded upon.

I think these two episodes were waaay ahead of their time. This scene in particular encapsulates the dark and strange world of fake news and alternative facts we’re in.

This was a fantastic couple of episodes. I loved it

Is that YOUR religion?

@Daioblis

7 жыл бұрын

...... It's a belief.

@michaelaltun

7 жыл бұрын

You know Nothing.. All of you. SO SMALL!

@Daioblis

7 жыл бұрын

*_The captain, so scared of command; the soldier, haunted by the eyes of his wife; the scientist, still running from daddy; the little boy who lied; the virgin, and the lost girl, so far away from home, the valiant child, who will die in battle, so very soon_*.

@michaelaltun

7 жыл бұрын

***** RAAAAAAAHH

@Daioblis

7 жыл бұрын

(A little too soon, but 'aight)

"Before time and light and space and matter. Before the cataclysm. Before this universe was created." "That's impossible. No life could have existed back then." "Is that your religion?" One of my favourite interactions between a Doctor and an antagonist.

3:13 I love it when the Doctor doesn't talk down to humans for their "petty squabbling" and their flaws or whatever- rather when he compliments them for their ingenuity and passion.

0:56 this scene fr gave me goosebumps when I rewatched it

You know I’m late to this, but this is by far the most interesting and Intimidating enemy the doctor has ever faced. The way he talks and the way he makes the doctor reconsider his own beliefs. I really wish they would bring either this character or somthing akin to it in future episodes. They probably won’t, but we can wish

The feeling of dread I have while watching this episode is hard to describe. Being so far from home, no Tardis while in the jaws of a black hole all the while people are being picked off one by one by possessed ood. It's just so damn creepy

i honestly feel that the beast was the doctor's most intimidating dangerous and powerful foe oh how i wish he would come back. I like how the episode shows that the idea of the devil are all the same such a great episode.

Remember hearing 2:14 in the trailer for ‘Doomsday’ episode on TV. Was really chilling knowing the beast was predicting the future

Impossible Planet/Satan Pit are easily the best episodes of series 2

I wouldn’t mind if they revisited The Beast as a villain. Keep as mysterious, powerful and dangerous. When The Doctor realises it’s The Beast, you see actual honest fear on his face. Last time he beat the beast using the trap the disciples made, this time he has no trap.

@thanhhoangnguyen4754

7 ай бұрын

Well the director saying gods like patheon that have encounter the doctor will be returning. And i hoping the Beast is one of them. Even though i like Sutek, Fenri, Omega, Black Guardians, The Trickster on the list too.

@seanj565

Ай бұрын

The Toymaker mentioned the one who waits and that his legions were coming, maybe he meant The Beast?

@samuelmyth8392

28 күн бұрын

@@seanj565 Very close. The guy who voiced the beast also voiced the one who waits

I'd like to see this guy manipulate other Doctor Who villains, like the Daleks, the Cybermen, or even the Great Intelligence.

@iHuzza

9 жыл бұрын

AstroManX100 I think this guy is from the same pre-universe as the Great Intelligence, so I wouldn't put it past them to have both of these interlinked in some small way.

@jacobodom8401

4 жыл бұрын

who said he didn't?

I replayed this like 50 times by now and it's still so epic, well done episode.

There are so many great lines in this small scene. Complete shift in the normal power dynamics of the Doctor being the smartest in the room. He starts in almost condescending questioning with the "What beast are you?" and flaunting his knowledge of religions and cultures, but gradually he loses that. You can tell from the moment The Beast calls the Doctor "Killer of his own kind" that the Doctor realises he is speaking to an equal who knows of the timelords and even his involvement in their destruction. He switches to "how did you end up on this rock", acknowledging that a being of that capacity wouldn't be on somewhere as insignificant (in their scales) as some "rock" by choice. Then slowly the Doctor asks for more information, curiously, about the timing of The Beast's imprisonment and (as people have pointed out) is actually stumped by the questioning of the Doctor's "religion". The Doctor is not the smartest in the room anymore, he no longer deals in certainty but instead in beliefs like everyone else. Absolutely a masterful episode that puts the Doctor as a piece in someone else's game.

Can we all take a moment to appreciate the amazing voice of The Beast, provided by Gabriel Woolf, who first appeard as Sutekh, in the 1975 Doctor Who serial Pyramids of Mars.

This is better than so many horror films. Honestly so tightly written and so stressful. Very tense and slow build that works so well. This is the best Doctor Who episode IMO

2:05 bro thought he could sneak "the virgin" in there

“You will identify yourself!” “You know my name.” Scary.

Gabriel wolf voiced sutekh in the pyramids of mars and his voice acting was so brilliant that they brought him back many decades later to voice the beast.

My saulte to Screenwrites, Voice actors of beast and people who mixed that voice... perfect job

1:45 I just love how The Beast played on their fears.

Does anyone notice how the doctor can't quite dismiss the fact that the Beast knows each and every single one of them by heart, despite the fact that you keep saying that he's a really good psychologist? This is probably a good example of the doctor lying to people to keep them tough and brave.