I've been burned too many times by these kinds of trailers to fully buy into it, and it's hard to call what feels like an in-engine cinematic trailer a "gameplay trailer", but if the final game does actually end up looking close to this, then Fable could turn out to be quite the game. Fingers crossed. PATREON: www.patreon.com/yongyea TWITTER: twitter.com/yongyea TOP PATRONS [CIPHER] - Waning Zane [BIG BOSS] - Devon B - Jonathan Ball [BOSS] - Gerardo Andrade - Michael Redmond - Peter Vrba [LEGENDARY] - BattleBladeWar

@PhilliesDude2k20

Жыл бұрын

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@Mcburger644

Жыл бұрын

It’s “”””gameplay””””

@ryuuotaku35

Жыл бұрын

Well you have point. Is it cinematic or gameplay?

@dairydregone7146

Жыл бұрын

Same here too! I've seen video game corporations lie before.

@cfiber_inc

Жыл бұрын

I like pizza

At this point I can't believe devs until their game is released

@Grim_Concept

Жыл бұрын

Smart, they just want your pre-order.

@shaundavidssd

Жыл бұрын

Since when did playground gas themselves ,never have tbh

@dream6562

Жыл бұрын

Maybe the their definition of in game footage is different from our interpretation

@Largentina.

Жыл бұрын

​@@shaundavidssdThey never have. Their publisher has though.

@Alex-bi9mk

Жыл бұрын

​@@Largentina.was about to say this, devs have no fault for the marketing team bullshitting about the game

To me the issue isn't about how good in-game cutscenes are. Plenty of games have some amazing in-game cutscenes. The problem is their trailer gave me little to no understanding of the moment-to-moment gameplay of the game itself. 3 seconds of the player character in combat but with a cinematic camera angle and no HUD makes it unclear if that was actually gameplay or just another cutscene.

@SolidSnake240

Жыл бұрын

Spot on

@KABLAMMATS

Жыл бұрын

The real issue is the game itself gives me Saint row reboot and forsaken vibe.

@paulheap1982

Жыл бұрын

​@@KABLAMMATShow?

@shap7296

Жыл бұрын

phil literally said there was gameplay in the trailer

@thomasway0320

Жыл бұрын

I feel a lot of trailers are like this, they show the game but they don’t show “The Game” if that makes any sense.

Don't be fooled. Don't preorder. Don't believe until the games comes out and the first people willing to get burned takes the first plunge.

@derlich09

Жыл бұрын

Wise words.

@HellRazor228

Жыл бұрын

True

@uligon9616

Жыл бұрын

What's the point of preordering when it'll be on gamepass

@kapnkrunch6833

Жыл бұрын

Cyberpunk was the last time I preordered anything 😂 however that being said rockstar is my only exception. If an indie developer can become a corporate run money grabber you can't trust any of them except the one that has delivered consistently since 2002 Delivered is an understatement actually rockstar shake the core of the industry with every release

@SyIis

Жыл бұрын

​@@uligon9616I don't think people understand that part for us, because a lot of our community is also on PC now.

Fable has a form of nuance that cant easily be replicated. The exact level of satirical humor mixed with muttled lower brow comedy is an art and science in its own right. It'll either be perfect or fall a bit short. Either way Fable will always hold a place in my heart, aside from that monstrosity of a kinect game.

@eyelesswolf3918

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I hope you could still fart on everyone

@jsan2548

Жыл бұрын

Writers these days don’t really exhibit much nuance, but maybe this will be the exception.

@Thegamerslounge33

Жыл бұрын

Og fable was the best, fable 2 was aight fable 3 had some positives but not much lol

@86LukeM

Жыл бұрын

Can't expect a fable game to be good, without the people from Lionhead studio. I mean Peter Molyneux basically recreated Black & White with Godus. I honestly was driven nuts trying to play that mobile game. It's so close to Black & White but not quite there. Apparently Microsoft regrets closing lionhead. If not for Sony owning Media Molecule, they'd likely do what the new Fable dev can't. After all they're the people behind dream and little big planet.

@NetherlandsFirst

Жыл бұрын

Oh, please. Fable's humor was often all over the place, and it wasn't even satirical that often. It even differed from game to game in the series, with characters like Hammer just making very lame jokes that had very little to do with satire. There's very little art or science in any of it, it's just lighthearted fun.

"It's a staple of fable to design your own character." None of the Fable games have a character creater.

@Xxsorafan

Жыл бұрын

😂 right. First one had 0 customization and 3rd let you finally customize your hair

@IndianTheNaked

Жыл бұрын

Character creation would be absolutely necessary to play this game. I don't want to play Fable as the developer's fucking self insert.

@dakotasan8719

Жыл бұрын

@@IndianTheNaked That's the way it is I'm afraid. The industry has become overrun with raging narcissists who want to cram their "absolutely perfect rainbow brain baby" down your throat. Look at the film industry. Everything that's come out of Lucas Arts in recent years has been about praising a Kathleen Kennedy self insert.

@bowgart5567

Жыл бұрын

@@IndianTheNaked with character creator you will play as a their self insert with the look you want

@wisemankugelmemicus1701

Жыл бұрын

@@bowgart5567this is a genuine question, do you play RPGs?

I don't doubt that it's captured 'in engine' on the Series X. The problem is that we get a total of about 2 seconds of very carefully chosen moments from gameplay. We want to see at least some of a passage of gameplay and get a sense for what playing the game even looks like.

@dhgmrz17

Жыл бұрын

The biggest question isn't whether it's rendered on the series X or not, but rather the performance that it's running at.

@Hauntaku

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, don't preorder until you know if this game is legit

@Grimjr7

Жыл бұрын

​@@Hauntakuthe game isn't even available for pre order. I'm sure you'll see more gameplay by the time the actual release date and pre-orders are announced. Most of the time release dates for a game follows a trailer. Just wait for the next trailer. No one has asked you for any money yet.

@membranealpha5961

Жыл бұрын

@@Grimjr7 you shouldent be pre ordering in the first place

@curtwhitlock7234

Жыл бұрын

I think a lot of this is about setting the tone of the game. The gameplay trailer you are looking for will come later probably next year or maybe even later. May do a Fable direct to end a show to do a deep dive. I kinda feel that people are being a bit harsh when the game isn't coming out soon.

I immediately saw the graphics and thought “Oh god no”. Like… fable had such a fun art style… even if the graphics are this good, why would you do this to it?

Yung doesn't understand why it's getting down voted and backlash

I think when the crowd saw the title include 'Gameplay Trailer', they're likely gonna expect actual gameplay. Not cinematic visuals. Edit: Oh damn, guess I was spot on. Wasn't expecting this many likes 😅

@HH-hd7nd

Жыл бұрын

Have a look at the trailer again. It states "in-game footage", not in-engine footage.

@ANTORT1993

Жыл бұрын

​​@@HH-hd7ndhen they have actual gameplay they'll market the trailer as gameplay they wouldn't waste time with phrases like "in-game" or "in engine". These only exist to give us an idea of what they are going for in the actual game.

@snowpaletehdog

Жыл бұрын

​@@HH-hd7ndya in game cut scenes 😂

@Blodhelm

Жыл бұрын

They'll say "yeah we pre-rendered that part, but it is in the game and the engine plays the video of it."

@HH-hd7nd

Жыл бұрын

@@ANTORT1993 And? The game is still at least 1 or 2 years away (I think the game will not release before 2025, maybe 2026). This "show us people playing the game" nonsense people are crying for all the time doesn't make any sense when the game is in Early Alpha. Such trailers make sense a few months before release from the last Beta builds. Seriously - all those people need to stop this. There is a natural progression of trailers. Announcement trailers should always be CGI. They MUST NOT be gameplay trailers unless it is a shadow drop like HiFi Rush. Next in line are in-engine trailers to give people an idea of what the game engine is capable of. The in-game which - like it or not - is actual gameplay. And lastly, a few months before the game is reeased and after most of the work has been finished and the game is in the polishing phase - THAT is the moment to show gameplay trailers. Not before.

"In engine" is worlds apart from "in game". You can get a huge amount of fidelity out of a pre-animated and curated scene compared to what is possible with gameplay. An "in engine" movie doesn't need to process geometry and assets outside of what the predetermined camera shows. Nor does it need to process any kind of physics, collision detection, ai, or dynamic game systems. You can also tweak every single moment to only use the optimal graphics settings and effects for that specific camera angle. This trailer is a complete mix of actually impressive technology and really deceptive presentation.

@hostileactual7655

Жыл бұрын

It's in game.... literally says it in the trailer.

@Ratchetti

Жыл бұрын

Why are you talking about in engine vs in game when the trailer is completely in game

@grossindecency

Жыл бұрын

They say its in game. Not in-engine.

@LilMickeyD01

Жыл бұрын

Alot of the replies from your comment seem to have forgotten that whole series has been built on lies...

@LunarEdge7

Жыл бұрын

Comments just not knowing "in-game footage" can be a lie itself.

It's good that people are exposing the in game and in engine differences. I'm getting sick and tired of them confusing and lying to people.

@nrXic

Жыл бұрын

Playground Games have never misled people.

@ethanesslinger9805

Жыл бұрын

​@nrXic well people said the same thing about CD Projekt Red and look how that turned out. People have a right to be skeptical in this day and age.

@imadrunk3576

Жыл бұрын

Well I cant believe it if people think that this would how it looks when actually playing the game. Pretty common knowledge it's not gameplay

@nrXic

Жыл бұрын

@@ethanesslinger9805 CD Projekt Red isn't Playground Games. They're not skeptical, they're ignorant.

@vullord666

Жыл бұрын

Well no, they said it was in-engine from the start (at the very least this time). Aaron Greenberg even specified while there would be no CGI everything would be either In-engine or in game footage. That said I think they could have put a framerate stamp over everything and something to say whether its on PC or console

Honestly, knowing Fable, even if your character starts the game looking like that, they'll become way different through your actions. Eat a lot? Fat. Level Strength? Get buff, etc etc.

@Thegamerslounge33

Жыл бұрын

I hope they introduce new game plus tho so you can play from start to finish looking how you want to

@melancholyman369

Жыл бұрын

You're assuming these features are a given, if it ain't obvious that this is another game wearing Fable's skin.

@ordinaryhuman5645

Жыл бұрын

Wait, are you suggesting that bodies can change based inputs like food or physical activity? That seems really fatphobic and ableist.

@monthekey9093

Жыл бұрын

That chick looks like shrek

@TzarBomb

Жыл бұрын

I hope there is character creation, I really don't want to play as a she-orc or what the hell that protag is...

What I miss was Fable had a very unique and colorful aesthetic, that looked almost, cartoonish, like an illustration in a children's book. No need for all this ULTRA REALISTIC OMG LIGHTRAYS 438934289K DEFINITION 389489X THE DETAIL. Games with a very unique look is always treasured over 'realistic'.

@SpinningSideKick9000

Жыл бұрын

Yep, no matter how it looks now, it will look ugly in 10 years if it's not stylised. I think a truly good game stands the test of time, but I'm sure photorealistic graphics sell more

@corvus8638

Жыл бұрын

Gotta please those pc players

@TheAsj97

Жыл бұрын

@@SpinningSideKick9000 It already looks fucking ugly right now.

@valcaron

Жыл бұрын

Lack of originality; there's not many western artists who can pull off a cartoony style that doesn't look like it's either a stylistic ripoff of World of Warcraft, OR Generic Mobile Game #46,243,764,552

@lustrazor44

Жыл бұрын

@@corvus8638it’s not pc players. Pc players mostly play indie titles which are all stylized.

The Fable games never had character creation. However, your character's appearance would change over the course of the game depending on how you shift your stats and morality alignment.

@robinheinemann1740

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't there also stuff like tattoos and hairstyle stuff? I only really cared about the very first Fable to be fair so I don't know what was in 2 & 3

@Moonedo

Жыл бұрын

You could customize hair style and color in 3 also be male or female I believe

@alexisalvarez2330

Жыл бұрын

I really hope it does, that MC looks hideous, or at least let us wear masks or helmets.

@TheChocolatBlanc

Жыл бұрын

@@alexisalvarez2330 It's weird this is this the first time I'm feeling truly uncomfortable watching a MC from a game.

@Xxsorafan

Жыл бұрын

@@alexisalvarez2330id you play 2? The character was hideous in that game too especially if you were angelic. Bronze skin and French fry blond hair. Actually the girl in that trailer looks similar to 2 protagonist

What Fable games were you playing where it was a "staple" to have character customization? It had the bare minimum, at best.

@derpthegr8689

Жыл бұрын

What games were you playing?? Just because it wasn’t a boring character creator like most games doesn’t mean the series didn’t have plenty of options to shape your characters with clothing and hair options, leveling stats can make you buff and tall, eat too much you got fat, etc etc. That’s definitely customization. Or do you want a boring, generic selection of bars where your character remains the same? Every other open world and rpg does that already so go play one of those, perhaps?

@lastmanstanding7155

Жыл бұрын

​@@derpthegr8689 Woah. Why is it boring? Your perspective of character creation isn't the default correct one. And it is correct to question the statment. Some tattos, hair, and specs here and there is actually considered bare bones. Sure I think it's interesting and the game will probably keep that but it might not. Who knows? But the majority of people don't really consider just changing your clothes or something to be character cutomization. Otherwise games like the wticher and the latest AC games also could be considered to be customizable when in reality all ur doing is changing a few aspects of the character. You can only be male in 1 and do everything previously metnioned. You could be male or female but I'm pretty certain the age and buffness was preset unless you went and changed it. In 3 it's the same as 2 but I thnk you couldn't even get that buff looking anymore. Well atleast not like fable 1 anyway. So yea pretty bare bones stuff. Again, I think the gameplay was interesting but it doesn't change what it is.

@ViridianFlow

Жыл бұрын

​@@derpthegr8689You literally only chose male or female. The other customisation was changing hair, tattoos and clothing. If changing hair and clothing is character customisation then Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom has character customisation.

@Boomer04888

Жыл бұрын

​@@derpthegr8689Why yes, I sure love it when my character gets ugly scars for making wrong story choices, or gets a gross beer belly because I had to eat more than 3 meals a day to heal up, or isn't allowed to look strong because I didn't focus on a melee build. Sure sounds like customization to me! *cough cough*

@Kaylakaze

7 ай бұрын

@@gammarayos No. There's no customization in the original Fable games even close to that. And in the first game, much like the first Saint's Row, you don't even get a choice between male and female. In Fable, your character's appearance changes based on their actions, or you can find items you can use to change appearance.

I think publishers use the "in engine footage" claim because even if the final game does not end up looking like what is advertised, if they can prove that their engine is capable of the advertised footage one way or another, it does not count as false advertisement.

@Strideo1

Жыл бұрын

"We rendered the trailer in the actual game engine (using a super computer at higher graphical fidelity than the Xbox can actually handle)"

@hellacoorinna9995

Жыл бұрын

​@@Strideo1Exactly

to be fair, they said early on they were targeting a "modern audience" which for gamers is probably the worst thing you could hear these days. People may not like it, but they shouldn't be surprised.

@chaserseven2886

Жыл бұрын

You got a source for this? Also imagine being scared of words

@nopenope2550

Жыл бұрын

@@chaserseven2886 When those words are associated with terrible products 100% of the time? Yeah, makes sense to view them with suspicion.

@cobaltcardsgaming5982

Жыл бұрын

Hearing “modern audiences” exponentially increases the odds that something is about to alienate its original audience to appeal to a ‘broader’ audience, most of whom probably aren’t interested or will stick around compared to the original fans.

@WardenNFG

Жыл бұрын

​@@chaserseven2886 as the other person said, you can literally google search all the games targeting them and see how badly they flopped. a good one to note is Saints Row Remake. (god that game was awful lmao)

@WardenNFG

Жыл бұрын

@@cobaltcardsgaming5982 Exactly, its a case of "will betray fans for people that won't play the game, and if they do, will find complaints about us not going far enough anyway" no point in trying with them yet companies keep doing so.

Cinematic trailers are cool yet deceiving most of the time. What should be the standards for the game developers is to provide demos not just trailers pre launch selling the game. Lies of P and FFXVI had superb demos that made people feel at eased and hyped for what we are buying.

@XKathXgames

Жыл бұрын

Remember Forza Horizon 5? That looked like CGI and it was gameplay and the game looks just like that. I think if any studio deserves the benefit of the doubt it'd be Playground Games.

@Brad-ut1ro

Жыл бұрын

@@XKathXgamesthey can have all the benefit of the doubt n the world…. Right up until it involves my $. Lol. There will never b another game that gets that until I c the full release.

@pacmonster066

Жыл бұрын

@@XKathXgames The thing is car games don't have to do anywhere near the kind of heavy lifting an RPG does. Closed tracks all the developers have to focus on is the car assets and the outside scenery to a lesser degree. We've had near photorealistic car games for over a decade at this point. Proficiency in making a driving sim tells me nothing for proficiency at making a fully featured RPG.

@drabnail777

Жыл бұрын

Why is the character so damn ugly?

@Pedroppl1

Жыл бұрын

They will provide the demo if the game is good. However, they will always hide the real gameplay if they know the game is shit. Look at MGSV. The gameplay was so good that they sold the demo for full price.

I really hope they adopt the Japanese ideas of not wasting our time and show majority gameplay. I would enjoy watching these showcases more often if that were more consistent.

It felt "duplicitous". That's the word you're looking for. They don't want folks to see the actual stuff so they're holding it back and trying to present it as lightly as they can to temper expectations.

@drabnail777

Жыл бұрын

I got distracted by how ugly that he/she thing was

@Hetreo

Жыл бұрын

@@drabnail777 wait, is a he/she? 😧

@redninja3056

Жыл бұрын

​@@drabnail777lol insecure are you?

@nrXic

Жыл бұрын

Have you never played a Playground videogame before?

@quademasters249

Жыл бұрын

@@drabnail777 I seldom buy games with ugly MC's. I wonder if game makers realize this is a thing? It can be the difference between paying full price and waiting for it to sell for $10 too.

Like Yong has said, the gaming sphere has been tricked too many times into believing a reveal is fully in-game, but was later revealed to be pre-rendered or there were "downgrades" (fancy term for "we lied right to your faces" (looking at you, AC: Valhalla)). I really can't blame anyone for how much disbelief they may have, because this is what happens when companies think lying to their audience over and over won't have any far reaching ramifications.

@doomspud6302

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, and the fact they take our skepticism as a compliment just makes it worse. It shows how little these marketing teams actually understand their audience. We aren't skeptical because they did such a good job. We are skeptical because we have been lied to too many times. If they can actually break that cycle of lies, then it will be a huge win for them. And I hope they do. But we have no reason to expect them to.

@nemezzyyzz

Жыл бұрын

But gamers are dumb enough to preorder starfield...

@HolyApplebutter

Жыл бұрын

Fuck Valhalla, remember Anthem?

@spike5499

Жыл бұрын

@@nemezzyyzz ​gamers never learn and keep preordering, then wonder why companies keep releasing shitty, broken games. Literally the "who killed hannibal" meme

@foomp

Жыл бұрын

I mean this is true, but that's not why it was downvoted so much. Practically every trailer for the last however many years would be downvoted like it otherwise. Everyone who has seen the trailer, or the thumbnail of this video, knows EXACTLY why it was downvoted lol.

I personally think that the "camera" interview with the ... giant, is just for the trailer, and not something that's actually ingame. That is just made, for us, for marketing. it wont be in the game, when you play it.

@cheveyo1332

Жыл бұрын

Why woulqdit be bad if it was though I'm so confused. In the third one you get sucked into a book

@THATNINJAHZ

Жыл бұрын

But that ugly mc will unfortunately

@Quazzi

Жыл бұрын

Of course, the whole trailer is made in isolation and completely authored to look as good as it possibly can.

@HH-hd7nd

Жыл бұрын

Maybe, but the scene where the girl fights the bandits definetly looks like ingame footage. The scene in the inn...could be either way, but that can easily be ingame footage as well.

@ANTORT1993

Жыл бұрын

​@@HH-hd7ndI don't think there's any disagreement that is in-game footage, but "in-game" footage doesn't mean gameplay. If you look at the new Final Fantasy for example you'll see some very high-quality action sequences that run in real time before transitioning to gameplay. These moments are technically in game but I wouldn't call them gameplay.

Whooo look at that awesome protagonist. Gotta commend them for the guts they are showing. Instead of a pretty protagonist, they went for an eldritch abomination and that takes balls.

@bencollins7876

Жыл бұрын

Wtf she pretty wym

@Lover_of_ebrietas

Жыл бұрын

​@@bencollins7876wrong objectively

@gaia7240

8 ай бұрын

Show your face and see😂

@InternetMouse

7 ай бұрын

​@@bencollins7876the irl actress? Yes. The game model? Hell no

Yong: Character Customization has NOT been a staple of Fable; 1 2 and 3 all had you choose between a boy and a girl if I remember correctly... most you could change is your haircut/beard. So if we do indeed get full character customization That'll be quite a departure from their previous formula.

There has never been a true customisation option for Fable. There's an option for male/female, you have plenty of clothes, and your appearance changes based on your actions and decisions in game. That's it.

@robinheinemann1740

Жыл бұрын

What about tattoos and hair styles? I distinctly remember that being a thing in the first Fable at least.

@ersncplays4914

Жыл бұрын

@robinheinemann1740 you're right, I guess I just lumped them in with clothing, i.e., attire.

@HushedLyrics

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for getting the character customization argument right

@Solarasthma

Жыл бұрын

We will probably get "body type 1/2" though instead of male/female.

@wakkablockablaw6025

Жыл бұрын

@@Solarasthma Facts 🤣

Also, the humour showcased is meant to be British. Hence why Playground are the ones most likely leading this Fable project. Richard Ayoade (the giant Dave) is famous for his dry sarcasm and irony.

@josie_the_valkyrie

Жыл бұрын

The only bit that I liked about this trailer was Richard Ayoade.

@ukmaxi

Жыл бұрын

@@josie_the_valkyrie cool.

It’s being disliked because of the female character, not because of E3 graphics.

@cristi8183

Жыл бұрын

Well, no shit, movies too.. the same propaganda in the last years is not new, which is somehow allowed, the trend in the last years is like it's blasphemy to have white male protagonists. Also her face.. almost put her a beard. 👌🏻

No one is going to talk about how ugly the main character is? Why do companies do this? Who is dying to create a character like this? Who want to look like this?

I don’t think most of the downvotes were from not showing more gameplay. I’d guess it’s more the appearance of the hero, given the comments I saw when I last looked. ETA: Sweet lord, I made a comment without thinking anything of it and glanced back an hour late to 83 comments. Uh. I’m probably not going to read all of those, but I’m going to glance what I can? Sorry. I’ve no idea why this got comments like this. ETA 2: I feel like I should note that I’ve managed to someone not one but both sides of about two different culture wars issues, you have been warned. Enter comments at your own risk.

@Ivebeenwaitingforthis1

Жыл бұрын

Let's be honest, the majority of the downvotes is because of her appearance.

@TheAsylumCat

Жыл бұрын

​@RemedyforAgony I'm pretty certain it is.

@nopenope2550

Жыл бұрын

Normal people don't like ugliness, not hard to understand.

@SupremeCreame

Жыл бұрын

I mean to be fair the character is kinda fugly. The girl it's based off looks pretty, but the designers did not do her justice.

@saschaberger3212

Жыл бұрын

Of course it's because of this. I don't like it the elephant in the room isn't talked about in fear of Twitter warriors. I don't care if it's a self insert of the character creator (because she looks nothing like the model she supposed to be) or whatever but when you make a video about why the trailers got disliked then speak about the reason

Whenever I don't see gameplay, HUD and all, it's an immediate red flag for me. At best, it needs more time in the oven and the developers just weren't ready to show anything yet (which is why I prefer games to be announced at most a year before release). At worst, the game is in a _really_ bad state, they just don't want you to know that or else you won't pre-order the game. Got to say, I won't hold my breath for a racing game team to make a great action RPG.

@Eleanor_Ch

Жыл бұрын

I dropped that opinion a while ago. Anthem had a gameplay trailer with HUD, The Day Before had gameplay, Cyberpunk 2077 had gameplay. It means nothing. Pre Rendered trailer shows me what the vision is, then I Wishlist and forget about it until the game releases.

@Hellraiser988

Жыл бұрын

There's games where you can remove the HUD

@ANTORT1993

Жыл бұрын

I don't think we should put these developers in the box with only making one style of game, we don't know what they can offer until they are given a chance. I mean we seen Guerrilla Games go from first person shooters to a great open world RPG.

@robertcastanpn288

Жыл бұрын

@@Eleanor_Chbro the day before is a scam lmao

@giantWario

Жыл бұрын

@@Eleanor_Ch You must not have followed this channel for very long because the ''gameplay trailer'' for Anthem and Cyberpunk were both CGI. They were fake gameplay trailers. Which once again is something that YongYea talked about before so I'll just assume that you're new around here (and perhaps around the internet in general because the Anthem fake gameplay thing was huge when it came out). And tons of people canceled their The Day Before pre-order exactly because of their bad gameplay trailer, so this completely argues against your point.

9:10 idk I feel like in most fantasy settings a device (powered by magic or primitive fantasy tech) that can film like a camera isn't that "unrealistic" Like in a lot of fantasy settings there's magic mirrors, people who can instantly heal wounds, things like rings enchanted with magic to greatly increase strength, why wouldn't they have some form of "video recording"

@FoxNamedFinn

Жыл бұрын

True, and in Fable 3 they were undergoing a sort of industrial revolution, so a lot of potential fantasy technological advancements if this game is vaguely following the same timeline

@ezrastrange3286

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't have to be magic. Barnum invented the first camera in Fable 2. As seen in the tutorial segment, and crops up again later on.

@Zynet_Eseled

Жыл бұрын

​@@FoxNamedFinnI really want a game that's industrial revolution set around the renaissance, using magic in a technological sense, and designs are basically classical high fantasy meets leonardo da Vinci's codex. Including the technology looking like that. It would be so fucking cool

@ViridianFlow

Жыл бұрын

Plus he's literally a Giant living in the clouds talking about innovation, British industrial revolution style. If you're fine with a giant living in a cloud but not "and the giant is more advanced than the people on the ground" then I am very confused where your lines are regarding immersion.

A game trailer can be made to make a game look incredible, they can even show gameplay later to show how good the game is from the part of the game they want to show off, but the problem for me is how the rest of the game is. Cause they can show the good parts but never the bad until the game is released for everyone to find it for themself.

Fable has a history of leading players to believe hype and delivering none of it. I expect this to be the same.

@pixelcultmedia4252

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, a bunch of semi connected shallow RPG systems. It seems expansive at first until you dig in.

@TheHaloGamer

Жыл бұрын

Counter Point: Peter Molyneaux has nothing to do with this game.

@garybodges3264

Жыл бұрын

Fable 2 is probably my favourite game ever, so to me, it delivered.

@JustFun-ho6qy

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheHaloGamertrue. On the other hand these are the folks responsible for the riveting character interactions in Forza Horizon.

@douglasosman3760

Жыл бұрын

@@garybodges3264like of all time? Yikes man, get higher standards

I'm late but I'm worried there won't be an option to fully spec into skill, strength, or will. In the previous games, you had the choice of melee (strength), ranged (skill), and magic. The MCs were canonly heroes that were jack-of-all trades. Some heroes specialized had a primary specialty with a secondary one. Alignment was also a huge factor into the character you played as. I long for the days of Fable 2's alignment system, it was complex and I enjoyed it. Reputation was everything! If the townsfolks hated or loved you, you knew it. Also, no dog? I know Fable 1 didn't have an animal companion, but I sacrificed millions of lives I didn't already put on offer to the Shadow Demon God for my fleabag!

@mangelangel2570

11 ай бұрын

Wait for more info -.-! The game Will have all of that. It's like be worried about the next Gears game not having ultra violence and Lancers wtf. The game will be good, PlayGround Games means quality games, and the fact that that games are racing games doesn't mean they can't develop Fable. Naughty Dog did Crash Bandicoot and then Uncharted... be patience. Likely Fable drops next year, if not, we're gonna have lots of info ALL the time until 2025 drops.

But Xbox didn't say everything would be in-game footage. They said no CGI for first party releases at the showcase. So doing interpretations of whether in-game means gameplay is debating something that wasn't even said.

I understand it's graphically beautiful, but I wish they went for a more stylised look. I get that they're old games but the cartoony style was something I adored. Edit: Either way, what matters is the gameplay. My personal preference isn't the most important factor here! ☺️

@NeutralGuyDoubleZero

Жыл бұрын

These aren't the graphics of the game, it's all a cg trailer

@kolo5141

Жыл бұрын

@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero Did you watch this video at all?

@Shocknfunk

Жыл бұрын

@@kolo5141 I doubt this game is gunna nail these visuals even with that “in game engine” label. Bet it will be yet another game that’s undercooked with optimization with a gameplay loop that will play it too safe. They’ve been struggling with this series just as much as Ubisoft Struggling with figuring out the hell to do with Beyond2.

@NeutralGuyDoubleZero

Жыл бұрын

@@kolo5141 Yes. I saw a cinematic trailer. I don't care if it said in engine. The game isn't going to look like this lol

@elvangulley3210

Жыл бұрын

​@@NeutralGuyDoubleZeroshut up pony go play your dlc calling it self new games and your remakes of remasters

I've never seen YongYea say so little in so much time. Also, character creation is not a staple of the Fable games. The only thing you could sort of customise was their hair. There wasn't a character creator in the first and second game.

@sebastianalhares

Жыл бұрын

Really? His entire career is based on that.

@dtanobo

Жыл бұрын

@@sebastianalhares honestly true but this is one of his worst for sure

@Xxsorafan

Жыл бұрын

People are bashing the way the game looked too like it came out of a shrek movie. Did they not play fable? The protagonist from 2 looks very similar to the hero in the trailer

@cheetahsmurf

Жыл бұрын

​@@Xxsorafanthat game did release in the early Xbox 360 days, and it was an ugly looking game, even back then. I think it's the stark contrast between how everyone and everything in the new game except the main character looks really good. Hell they even played into it with the walk and turn to reveal her face. Hopefully it's just a way to get people talking and we have a character creator.

@Bladezeromus

Жыл бұрын

​@@Xxsorafan The older games also had a more unique, stylized and cartoonish visual style. So yeah, there were ugly characters but there were also beautiful characters. The fable 2 protag looked like a generic British cartoon chad.

There is a massive difference between in-game engine cinematics and gameplay. Games have been primarily using in-engine cinematics for at least a decade now, so that they made a non-representative trailer entirely in (I assume) Unreal 5 is frankly easier than not. This is just a video of a tech demo with cinematic cameras, and is absolutely not what the final game will look like beyond "there will be swords, magic, and a forest". I guarantee that none of this will appear in the final game, at least not without a thick coat of putty over the graphics.

@griffin1095

Жыл бұрын

Think it’s kinda pointless to act like there’s no chance any of this is gameplay, especially since the shots of the fireball and sword fights could easily just be animations that play out during combat. They could be fake sure, but given that we already have shit like the Demon’s Souls Remake I think it’s definitely possible I’m not buying into it, but I’m not outright denying it either. Lets just wait and see.

@TheHaloGamer

Жыл бұрын

But the dev said this was literally from in-game; not just an in-engine trailer. It's like most of the comments here just came to complain instead of watching the video.

@LordMoku

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHaloGamer Right, because developers have never lied before. Time to grow up and see you're just a faceless wallet being played.

@YukiA816

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHaloGamerbut the devs said! How many games have people been burned because they believed what the devs said? Many, so we take it with a grain of salt.

@hunter5285

Жыл бұрын

@@TheHaloGamer deva on cyberpunk, devs on every fallout game, devs in skyrim, devs on halo, devs on COD.... I can literally keep going until I've named 99% of all games ever.

I've NEVER been able to make my Own character in Fable. You get the default preset character in every game with a female option added since the 2nd game. You can only change bits of their appearance slightly here and there after several hours of gameplay. So yes, that is the character we are forced to play as.

6:17 "im in the mentality "too good to be true" One of the best mentalities to have in this peculiar era of modern gaming

@Planag7

Жыл бұрын

I usually wait and see you never know what can happen. Hell even something as simple as Sonic origins... Always be cautious. But ready to be impressed. (Like I will always love tears of the Kingdom but I know the performance issues and I have no problem with people not playing it for that)

@kalui96

Жыл бұрын

ok bot heisenburg

Character creator is something that’s never been in a Fable game, hopefully this could be the first. Though one thing Fable has always had is great character customization and expression

@cakelore4475

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! He sounded super sure it was in all of them I thought I was having a Mandela effect moment

@ambushbob5383

Жыл бұрын

I liked fable 3 I really did but its customization game was pretty weak. Fable 2 was the best.

@latino503

Жыл бұрын

Yeah id argue all the main characters in the fable games r all ugly lol. They always looked like trolls.

@skefsongames

Жыл бұрын

As long as we dont get a set chatacter, I really dont mind

@bowserbrowser6559

Жыл бұрын

Watch it be that character and you can only choose what you identify as

Don't pre-order, folks! Also correction, YongYea: Fable series never had character creation.

Bullshot has a particular feel to it, and after a while you start to be able to instinctively recognize it. This is bullshot. No question.

Fable games have never had a character creator, at least not the main titles. You chose a boy or a girl and how you looked depended on the good/evil/corrupt/pure mechanic. You started off average and your choices and actions in game dictated the way you looked. Good = you became more Angelic, Evil = You became more demonic, Corrupt = you became uglier and dirtier and Pure = you got cleaner and more classically handsome/beautiful. What you had more control over was clothing, makeup and hair etc which weren't available to starting the game but were purchasable in the in game shops.

@ServantBerserkerZero

Жыл бұрын

So the character in the trailer was already Corrupt. Make sense.

@wilfredwayne7139

Жыл бұрын

No woman should start of that ugly and is that hard to have different colored faces? Inclusivity is great when it's not white people.

@Zekegedd

Жыл бұрын

Yes I was saying the same thing to myself when he started talking about character creation. This reminds me that a lot of people probably have never even played the Fable games, hard to believe it's already been over 10 years since Fable 3 came out.

@tintillor

Жыл бұрын

She must be incredibly evil.

@rubeniscool

Жыл бұрын

@@ServantBerserkerZero She looks average to me. Like.. a young woman from a medieval-ish period who doesn't wear makeup. The thing that makes it look a little weird is the uncanny valley you inevitably get with cgi.

This game just screams Saints Row 2022 all over.

@Stormzy010

Жыл бұрын

This is playground games when have they made a bad game

@georgejones5019

Жыл бұрын

@@Stormzy010 Once this ESG sponsored DE&I filth releases.

Man transgender Shrek never looked that good.

My two knocks on fable so far is pretty much what was said in this video. I didnt really get a strong sense of what the game it self is actually gonna be like? Im sure itll look really gorgeous as the horizon games generally look amazing. But im also worried its gonna fail to capture that storybook/fantasy feeling the previous games gave us. This one gave me more tall tales jack and the beanstalk vibes vs medievil fantasy like before. But ill try and keep and open mind and see where it goes!

Yongyea either desperately wants to avoid the real source of the downvotes or is somehow so disconnected that he somehow missed it.

@da_ocsta1452

Жыл бұрын

He's not in the mood to be cancelled.

@marcusclark1339

Жыл бұрын

he knows but social conformity, he's in a big game project and can't actually point out the modern politics without that fear, shows a large disingenuous critique which is a shame never be afraid of calling it out, that's how it gets more power by people not pointing out the real issue

@TheDeadlyBlueWolf

Жыл бұрын

@@da_ocsta1452 Or the fact he thinks it's brain dead retarded getting your panties in a knot over game where protag characters were never your run-of-the-mill attractive superstar, runway model.

@foomp

Жыл бұрын

Seriously lol. The characters face is 95% of the reason the downvotes exist. The remaining 5% are the auto-downvotes and people who legitimately don't like it. He probably would have been better off not talking about this one.

@pseenazloy6409

Жыл бұрын

The fact that this kind of fear, pressure and self-censorship exist where he's at, is sickening and terrifying at the same time. They taught us you have the most free country on the planet, why's this happening?

why would they put this in the hands of a company that has done nothing but racing games? thats like taking a master tennis player and telling them they're playing football or something

@user-jh1dc2jr2v

Жыл бұрын

You reaalize they made a new team composing of rpg vets right? Look it up.

Fable never had a character creator you had two options and your in game actions affected the appearance

For some reason I suspect that the character looking ugly is why the game is being downvoted. I don't play a game to jerk off to or to be attracted to characters so I don't really care, but the other points were very valid. Nobody should trust in engine footage until they see the gameplay footage.

"in engine" is a red flag. Unless it states "actual gameplay" they're making shortcuts to make it look better than it will in game. The Mandalorian is technically "in engine" for Unreal 5, that doesn't mean you can take control of Mando and run him around an open world with that same fidelity.

@haydencantthink

Жыл бұрын

Last time I saw the phrase 'in engine footage' for a game I was interested in... it was Halo infinite

@davidpelaez7176

Жыл бұрын

Its in game footage, so we'll see this in the final release

@Jirodyne

Жыл бұрын

@@haydencantthink Last time I heard the phrase 'in engine footage', was in a contraversy of it being revealed a 'Xbox' Game, was actually being run on a PC in the back behind stage, and the game came out looking like complete shit. I think it was that stupid hacker Ubisoft game, Watch Dogs. Either way, after Aliens: Colonial Marines, you can NEVER Trust a trailer EVER again. And anyone who does waive all rights to be made about a game not living up to the trailer.

Hey I am just going to correct you a little Yong. Fable has never had a character creator. the only way to customize your appearance was to buy cosmetics with gold you earned in the game. This new fable may have a character creator but I highly doubt it or they will have already shown it off.

@Hauntaku

Жыл бұрын

That sort of thing is best saved for trailer 2 or 3 during a live showcase.

@masteryi197

Жыл бұрын

The players karma actually also changes appearance, so does stats and food also.

That was the female model they chose for their set piece presentation? Wild.

There was never a character creator in fable especially with how most ppl brought attention to how ugly the facial expressions were in the old games, personally I don't mind if there isn't one in this version either but the faces of the npcs looked way better than the protag so I think they need to decide which way they gonna go with that

I believe the downvotes are from the female protagonist's appearance... they're not saying women shouldn't be the lead, they're saying that the face doesn't look good... which is now common in western games If the game has character creator, and this model is just to show how character model is, people would let this slide

@arcanefire7511

Жыл бұрын

Its not common lol, let less conventionally attractive characters exist. We dont need to cater to coomers.

@xDangerDoomx

Жыл бұрын

What a dumb fucking thing to down vote a trailer for. I hope this is the main character and Playground games should shove it down our throats, tired of this petty ass crap in games.

@xxkildarxx

Жыл бұрын

He obviously wants to believe that there is a legitimate reason for the down votes and not "me want gurl pretty"

@bottomlefto

Жыл бұрын

​@@arcanefire7511we get it, your kink is ugly people. No need to insult normal people who prefer beauty especially in fictional media.

@ServantBerserkerZero

Жыл бұрын

Tbh I didn't really pay attention to the trailer because I don't play Fable, but when Yong paused and put the character's face up close, I threw up a little... Sincerely hope there'll be a character creator in the game.

I can’t be convinced until they actually showed like an hour of gameplay. I know I’m not the only one who think’s it’s too good to be true. We need to see something you would commonly do in this game.

@TheJerknoid

Жыл бұрын

I think even 8 minutes would be enough.

@pookarah

Жыл бұрын

I need some Ha Has and Follow xD

@Sakaki98

Жыл бұрын

@@TheJerknoid Watch Dogs. Gonna need a whole lot more than 8 minutes.

@derryksandiford5434

Жыл бұрын

An HOUR, dude? 😮😅

@followtheflood2685

Жыл бұрын

Remember Cyberpunk?? Yea that had almost a 1 hour gameplay.... And then released to that horrible state.

It is hilarious how much he had to avoid the actual reason people disliked the trailer.

I dont think they undertand what Fable was about.

Honestly I don’t think anyone wanted Fable to look like this on the first place, based on reactions

@GeoConPlays

Жыл бұрын

Idk why people are complaining, it's fable, it feels like fable, maybe they want a cartoonish look, but if the look is what's stopping you what's the point

@lustrazor44

Жыл бұрын

@@GeoConPlaysa lot of people play games based on their visual style

@GeoConPlays

Жыл бұрын

@@lustrazor44 sure and that's fine, but if you played fable for the visual style and the style only there's was always going to be an issue in the future

@MartinMorning2

Жыл бұрын

​@@GeoConPlaysthis isn't fable

@WVRLORD

Жыл бұрын

@@GeoConPlays not sure how you can speak on what it feels like with a short trailer that’s mostly cinematic with a few very small moments of gameplay that were barely noticeable to many people. From what I see this seems like it may be a more guided cinematic experience which isn’t at all what Fable is, this trailer gave me the same type of gameplay vibe that Hellblade 2 trailers did which is not a good sign for what Fable is supposed to be.

Be very careful when saying if footage is "gameplay" or "in-game". None of these devs ever used the word gameplay. They said it was captured on an Xbox, that's it. So it could either be pre captured cutscenes played as video files (using in-engine graphics!!) Or (the better possibility) cutscenes running real-time-in-engine graphics. But no one said it was gameplay.

Cuz the internet is super dumb the video said in game engine footage 😂 and the Devs said it’s the game But everyone a expert now

Some people really haven't learned from Anthem, remember "Anthem Official Gameplay Reveal (2017)" Those devs showed faked gameplay. Never put all your optimism in one basket with any game studio after that. Until substantial gameplay comes out close to release date, that's what you should expect the game to look like as a final product. Not a trailer showing "in-engine" with a mixture of curated cutscenes that might not even make it into the final build and are for marketing purposes only.

Watching the Xbox showcase it was pretty clear the ESG stuff was heavily at work.

@Casey69ism

Жыл бұрын

idk if normies even know what ESG is

@NemeczeK101

Жыл бұрын

@@Casey69ism One of the fewer cases where the higher the score is, the sh*ttier the game is.

@kueapel911

Жыл бұрын

The more ESG score they posses, the lower the quality of the game it seems

@Thresher326

Жыл бұрын

Western devs are at the mercy of ESG. You'll notice it isn't a problem in Japanese games.

@cobaltcardsgaming5982

Жыл бұрын

@@Thresher326I heardJapan is starting to pay more attention to ESG and Western audiences for the $$$, so while I don’t see it getting as obnoxious as American produced stuff, Japanese media might not be safe from it much longer.

I'm annoyed that there wasnt any real gameplay footage, but Fable still looks ace to me.

People are forgetting that we don’t even have a release YEAR yet, this is just a first look at the games graphics.

9:34 The fact they have hired an actress for the main characters looks in this trailer, has me concerned and mskes me suspect that we will be constricted to playing as exactly her in the game, with no character customisation and choices.

@SnaxMang

Жыл бұрын

Didn't the older games just have a male and female choice? Like you pick from one and I think you could change hair color. The customization was from like, evil corruption and shit.

@SpartasEdge

Жыл бұрын

@@SnaxMang Yes, that sounds about right, and may he the same here, a basic choice of male or female and hairstyles. Its possible they also hired a so far unannounced male actor for a male version of the main character too, i guess time will tell.

@DarkMatter280

Жыл бұрын

They did hire an actress, but they used a male dev's face for her... it's a bizarre choice

@SpartasEdge

Жыл бұрын

@@DarkMatter280 That is really bizzarre actually. That's probably why people didn't like how she looked, as she looked a bit off.

@DarkMatter280

Жыл бұрын

@@SpartasEdge Yeah, from what I can tell, it looks like a blend of the two faces, and as a result, it barely looks like a real person imo

A reminder that Fable has NEVER had a character creator. Everyone starts as the same character (male or female) and changes features like hair, weight, etc throughout the game.

@da_ocsta1452

Жыл бұрын

Puke. If I have to play as this mutant I'm not interested.

@yesteryearr

Жыл бұрын

@@da_ocsta1452 I don't understand this point of view. I don't see anything wrong with her, in fact, I like her character and personality. If that's how you view others when walk past them on the street, I wouldn't wanna spend a single second looking at nor talking with someone like you. Talking down to others so you can "appear" above them. It's extremely rude and pathetic. It's simply bad character. I hope you can grow out of this pathetic ideology someday. Good day, sir.

Seeing the dude from "The IT Crowd" immediately gives the game a big plus for me. 😄 Seriously, it looks very impressive. But I'll believe it when it's released...

thatttsss... not the full reason why theres so many dislikes.... people think the female protag looks like a ugly dude... and... yeah... she dose...

The gameplay looked so good it could pass as a CGI trailer

@christopherlewis6915

Жыл бұрын

Eh, Horizon Forbidden west is better

@anders8204

Жыл бұрын

Gameplay looks so good that it probably is a CGI trailer.

@dragongamer2670

Жыл бұрын

Same old nothing new. Zzzzzzzzzz

@WellBattle6

Жыл бұрын

I mean, plenty of games look like that, except on the other side of the street you see several NPCs T-posing.

@tb1235

Жыл бұрын

I think people's problem with it is though it could be "in engine" it's not what the game will look like when being played. There was no hud, no long form third person combat, etc. I wouldn't down vote this but understand why people were displeased with Xbox saying it was gameplay when it was certainly more of "in engine" cutscenes made into a trailer.

As for the camera, the in-game technology of each Fable game got better each release. They had basic photographs and steam power by the behinning of Fable 3; makes sense they'd have some video capabilties further down the line

@arnox4554

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't look like they're going with an industrial theme again. Thank goodness too. The decision of Fable 2 (and 3) to move it out of typical medieval fantasy was a pretty bad one and took away its purposefully mythical quality to it.

@jacobsmith4428

Жыл бұрын

And then there's Fable Journey... We don't talk about Fable Journey.

@99-Zulu

Жыл бұрын

Well they had photography as early as the beginning of Fable 2 with Barnum.

@DaneInTheUS

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I have no problem with a camera on fable. Fits just fine

I loved the original Fable, it's sad They keep falling down from grace, if they mess this up Fable 4 is going to be a no go and fall on deff ears when and if they ever try to make it

You can't create your own character in this game, because the avatar you see in the traile was designed with a real actress in mind. There are tweets fromr the devs about that. So the player sticks with this abomination of a character ...

@CrispyHulk1

Жыл бұрын

If the players decides to buy the game in the first place. She’s an eyesore and I don’t want to experience that ugliness.

I'm callin' BS.....they are going to apologize down the road for "not hitting the mark" about 2 weeks after release.

I realize Peter Molyneux isn't involved with this game, but just remeber as a whole that the Fable franchise has a histiry of being over-sold and underdelivering

@YumYum820

Жыл бұрын

💯

@corvus8638

Жыл бұрын

Probably the most average franchise

The dislikes is from people not understanding the joke of the ugly Main character.

8:56 - People don't seem to understand that this is just a style of doing a teaser-trailer, which this is, and that it's merely a means to introduce the world and its characters, as well as visual style and tone, NOT to show that this is what the game will also do (doing these "docu"-style interviews) and whatnot. - This is nothing new either, this style has been done before, even in videogames. - A close example I can give is the "Meet the..." trailers for 'Team Fortress 2'. And yes, for a game that's a multiplayer-shooter without a story and such (although with a bit of light "lore", I suppose) that's more acceptable, but those trailers are also for doing the exact same thing, teasing, marketing, whatever, NOT to show what the actual presentation will be like. - If anything, they might even have taken those trailers as an example, because if you look at the last shot of the 'Fable'-trailer, and the last shot of the infamous 'Meet the Scout' trailer, it totally seems like they made a nod to that AND the style.

I’m gonna wait till we see actual gameplay with hud and all. Fable 2 is one of my favorites games from the 360 era, I don’t think it will be enough to make me get an Xbox but if this and star field turn out to be better than all the disbelief, it will definitely will get me thinking.

@haydencantthink

Жыл бұрын

Aren't these games coming to PC too? If they are then you don't really need an xbox

@EmperorDxD

Жыл бұрын

How do you know the game will have a hud hell blade is a game with no HUD or anything

@dyllanrodriguez2828

Жыл бұрын

@@haydencantthink That’s what im unsure of I think they are but idk the lack of exclusives for Xbox gotta be hurting them

@dyllanrodriguez2828

Жыл бұрын

@@EmperorDxD I high;y doubt they’ll be like hellblade and do that.

@EmperorDxD

Жыл бұрын

@@dyllanrodriguez2828 bra they just removed the HUD obviously

I wish they would at least show what kind of game it is. It doesn’t really seem like a fable game to me based on what was shown. Like Do you have a dog? Does it have all the simulation elements? Do you have affinity with other npcs? Can you choose what character you want and do they age and change appearance over time? How is the world structured?

@antonakesson

Жыл бұрын

Can you become a merciless landlord that murders the residents, buy their houses and then rent them out for profit? If not then it is missing the Fable way XD

@Xxsorafan

Жыл бұрын

You didn’t get to customize your characters look as in face before soo

Who remembers the kill zone 2 trailer all those years back with its “in game footage”. This trailer is ringing all those alarm bells.

I've been noticing this in trailers they put insaley small text at the bottom. "Images not representative of final product"

I don't know if its just me but as cool as it was to see Richard ayoade the character model faces were almost all creepy/uncanny valley esque to me

I'm also going to be skeptical, considering we've all been burned by the promise of "in-game footage" and it being faked. Not to mention, some have experienced performance issues on the Series X and S, which suggests that despite the latest Xboxes and PS5s are not as equal as specs on a sheet would suggest. So I doubt the game would be running that fluid on an xbox console.

A staple of Fable to create your own character? That definitely wasn't in the first one.

Artstation clearly showed me they made a vertical slice. One artist showed his light work on the chicken kick part. Its definitely not what its say it is.

The last time I checked, this medium of entertainment was about video _GAMES._ A CGI trailer with zero GAMEPLAY for your video GAME means borderline NOTHING to your consumers. How about of wasting time and money creating a movie trailer (that’s all this was), you instead put those resources into finishing the VIDEO GAME.

No Gameplay = No Hype = No Buy These are the rules, game industry. We will not change them.

We still obsessed over graphics? What’s more important is how does combat and progression feel; is the dialogue cringe? Do you have to play 20 hours before it gets good all that is significantly more important than damn the trailer lied about lighting and camera angles 😔

My biggest issue is that this doesn't feel like fable, it feels like a generic witcher clone.

Honestly when it comes to Playgrounds and their prioritisation of graphics fidelity, I'm not surprised. Forza has always been at the top of the list in this regard and if you look at some of their pevious Forza presentations... for the time they came out they were amazing. I have high hopes for the visuals, my concern is the gameplay.

@AsteroSloth

Жыл бұрын

It gives me FFVIIR or Uncharted exploration. I miss when games were like Kena Bridge of Spirits is today

@jasoncarnelian3325

Жыл бұрын

But having a studio thats legendary for making racing sims create a high-fantasy narrative focused RPG is scary. It reminds of when EA made Bioware create Anthem. Bioware (at the time) was considered the king of the multi-choice character driven rpg scene in both high fantasy and scifi spaces. Seeing them create Anthem an action-combat looter shooter was odd but Bioware's reputation (at the time) was still pretty good so everyone was optimistic and pre-orders were nuts (relatively speaking for a new IP) because the game had Bioware's name on it. We all know how that ended. I'm incredibly nervous this Fable remake is going to be a repeat of the Anthem situation.

@SirFenV

Жыл бұрын

@@jasoncarnelian3325 I definitely get that but one thing that I thought about alot when thinking about EXACTLY THIS is "why would they choose Playgrounds?" And the main thing I noticed is that alot of what Playgrounds' focus is as a development team is actually heavily in the lane of open world exploration, non-rigid gameplay, high quality visuals and user experience customisability. Despite being a racing sim, at the end of the day, one of FH5's biggest and best qualities is it's large dynamic sandbox map. I'm not sure how much larger in scale Fable's map would be (if it even is) but if you ever got a chance to go into FH5 and look at the quality of the map used for that game it says alot about the strengths of Playgrounds in terms of those first 3 traits. RPGs and driving sims unironically do share a bit of similarities in terms of what big draws can be when you really think about it, in my experience user customisability is usually at the top for both; "oh i need my character to look a certain way or else I lose my immersion" - "my car has to look perfect or else i wont feel comfortable driving it" - etc. I definitely see why the fear is setting in but I don't expect AS MUCH of a drag from this as main other people do, I think that the only area I have an undeniable amount of fear in is narrative. Considering that's, by far, the biggest thing you cannot make parallels or translate between these two types of games. And considering why I personally play Fable, if the narrative sucks... the game might as well be a flop.

@albanier8426

Жыл бұрын

@@jasoncarnelian3325 It isn't the actual Forza developers working on Fable, they have two teams now. PG1 is working on Horizon 6, PG2 is working on Fable.

@jasoncarnelian3325

Жыл бұрын

@@albanier8426 that’s a huge relief

I really do not give a sh*t about the graphics. I just want it to expand on the unique features that the old Fable games had. I always felt like Fable needed to refine and expand on its existing systems, features, mechanics, lore and world instead of adding new systems, features and mechanics. If the game does end up looking this good but a lot of the Unique stuff is absent, thats when i will be disappointed.

@Hauntaku

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, we need a Fable game like Final Fantasy 3.

@artnull13

Жыл бұрын

I mean the graphics aren’t that good when they render a chick as a dude

@WompaStompaCyn

Жыл бұрын

Fable had new "unique features" in every single game because Molyneux just threw every damn idea at the wall and the team had to scramble to make any of it halfway work.

The first Red flag is that Playground specializes in racing games and its jumping genres with Fable (RPG) and might not be adapted to make RPGs

@faxrepairgreg5417

11 ай бұрын

Bioware had only made Shattered Steel (a mech sim game) before Baldur's Gate, so I wouldn't necessarily pigeonhole a company like that.

We all know that none of this is why that vid was downvoted. Shame on you for not even mentioning it

@CrispyHulk1

Жыл бұрын

It’s because the woman is an ugly troll and nobody wants to pay as it.

Is the “camera” more like “breaking the fourth wall”? I think that can be a valid storytelling choice

Graphics aren't even half the battle though. Does it feel fun to play? Is the world interesting? Are the quests/story fun and engaging? Yeah, cool if it looks that nice, but I can't imagine it actually running smoothly and feeling good to play if it has graphics like that. I agree though, the facial capture is probably some of the best I've seen.

I’ve only played 1 Fable game before and watched someone play the third game I think. Is this one gonna be set in the same universe? Because I wasn’t aware there were giants there

Fable hasn't had a character creator... you could only change your hair and dye things. The rest was all based on how good/bad you are with the default male and female.

This might be kind of unpopular take, but I really don't like how the game looks. If you remember the previous Fable games, the characters weren't realistic, they were very stylized and exaggerated. Everybody looked memorable. But this new one is going for very realistic style, and all the characters we saw in the trailer just looked like regular people that you might see on the streets. That's not the Fable I want. ...Yeah, some people are upset about how the protagonist in trailer looks. Who cares, there's definitely gonna be character creation.

@ChristophBrinkmann

Жыл бұрын

There's plenty to hate in every Fable game, numbered entry or spinoff.

@ChristophBrinkmann

Жыл бұрын

And I say that as someone who loves all 3 main games.

@VodkaVodoka

Жыл бұрын

@@ChristophBrinkmann Yeah, but I'd say that visual style was fairly consistent between the games. Of course Fable 2 looked better than first one(since we went from original Xbox to 360), but you could still see the same character design style in it.