Everyone's an ELO guesser until Gotham arrives.

@fornito530

3 жыл бұрын

Ya i mean even in the episodes the man is crazzyyy accurate, like he's really good at it

@georgiykireev9678

3 жыл бұрын

@@fornito530 He has been doing this for months, so no surprise here

@binnieb173

3 жыл бұрын

I was super happy, I guessed the 725 exactly! But to be fair its easy to see your own mistakes. lol

@rnxrutuj

3 жыл бұрын

@@binnieb173 LoL

@maxkho00

2 жыл бұрын

Tbh both Levy and Hikaru did pretty poorly on this one. How neither of them recognised those 1300s who kept missing basic tactics like forks, pins, and discoveries, and just overall kept shuffling pieces about with no intent whatsoever; or how both failed to pick up on starkingly obvious displays of understanding such as fianchettoing the bishop, finding pins, doubling the rooks on an open file, etc in that 1000 game; or how they were both oblivious to that 1500's overtly (relatively) high-level ideas such as restricting the opponent's most dangerous piece, opening up the position while the opponent's king is still in the centre, as well White's constant awareness of tactics such as pins and discoveries; is, frankly, beyond me. I wouldn't say that Levy ended Hikaru's elo-guessing career. More like Hikaru ended his own elo-guessing career tbh as he had an absolute shocker of a guessing spree (especially those completely inexplicable 1950, 2100, and 900 guesses).

Meyer: Plays blitz game on the toilet one day Hikaru: I am so disappointed in Meyer

@DuchAmagi

3 жыл бұрын

XD

@jacobwest6884

3 жыл бұрын

Dude you play your best chess on the toilet, wdym.

@N8teDiggity

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobwest6884 nah I definitely play worse on the toilet lol I prefer being on my computer if I can

@Lawrence_Zhou

3 жыл бұрын

was he actually on the toilet that game lmao

@beepo5448

2 жыл бұрын

@@N8teDiggity i prefer playing hyperbullet on my samsung smart fridge

26:00 I'm just below 1400 as well, and this is such a wild rating level. One game you are playing brilliantly, seeing cool tactics and sacrifices, with both players above 90% accuracy. Next game you're like: "whoops, blundered my queen on move 5".

@TheRealBlueSwan

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I am around the same level. Wild fluctuations in quality.

@strategygaming5830

2 жыл бұрын

The amount of times I’ve played a great 10 minute game then blunder a opening trap next game because I was impatient is crazy

@gaming2top759

Жыл бұрын

Yeah bro, I feel you, I am in similar stage 😁😁

@nolanthomas4950

2 ай бұрын

u think u are playing brilliantly at 1400???? LOLLLL

@jacksteel1539

Ай бұрын

@@nolanthomas4950 I once had a 95% accuracy game at 800, at these levels you're sort of just being lucky with your moves because you don't understand really what you should be doing

Hikaru: Hmm this looks high elo, lets say 2150. Levy: They trash, 1000 take it or leave it.

@Curovicky

3 жыл бұрын

I dont think you understand the meme correctly.

@athanasiosp.

3 жыл бұрын

@@Curovicky Sorry, are you drunk?

@TheBlissfulVoid

2 жыл бұрын

@@Curovicky Sorry are you drunk

@pagh6831

2 жыл бұрын

so who was drunk that day?

@_owl_

Жыл бұрын

Answer the question. WHO WAS DRUNK THAT DAY!?

Never knew how much I would enjoy seeing hikaru guess the elo, it really is like a billionaire guessing how much everyday groceries cost. Man is on an entirely different planet than the plebs he's rating.

Wow levy just ended hikaru’s EloGuessing career

@fornito530

3 жыл бұрын

levy is pretty accurate even on his episodes, he's always really really close

@ljm37

3 жыл бұрын

Hikaru merely adopted Elo guessing. Gotham was born in it and raised by it.

@currentmood9568

3 жыл бұрын

Hikaru sucks at elo guessing lol

@darkrose8328

3 жыл бұрын

@@ljm37 Hikaru merly adopted the Elo guessing. Gotham was born in it, molded by it, he didn't see the high elos until he was a grown man and by then it nothing to him but blinding.

@utkarshkaniyar6210

3 жыл бұрын

@@currentmood9568 hikaru is so strong that he has trouble imagining what normal people at different levels play at.

Meier did that? Really? Really? MEIER? DID THAT? REALLY. (continues for some time)

@vladthemagnificent9052

3 жыл бұрын

quite some time haha

@SpukyChanel

3 жыл бұрын

Wait really? MEIER PLAYED THAT? Really? That?

@darthjarjar_7918

3 жыл бұрын

Levy starts talki- “REALLY?! HE PLAYED Ne4?? REALLY?”

@cainmartin4131

3 жыл бұрын

Really? I am so disappointed in Meier.

@jwanfontana9658

3 жыл бұрын

I don't mind being wrong but... Really!?

They see too many layers on a move, which make them think it's a hard move. As a 1000, I just tries to improve my pieces without making a 1 move blunder.

@ricobarth

3 жыл бұрын

Levy said "yeah, but it was an accident!" about 5 times, which was worth about 800 points in that game.

@Starguy256

3 жыл бұрын

Right, I'm 1300 Lichess (which is what, 130 chess com?), and I see a lot of the moves Hikaru thinks you need to be a GM to see, but then I blunder back rank mate the next move

@annannz9047

3 жыл бұрын

@@CheddarBro And knight maneuvers, rerouting bishops, pawn breaks, sac-ing pieces for passed pawns, exchange sacrifice, these kind of "advanced" things. I see them but I never know how good they actually are.

@RsDefcon

3 жыл бұрын

@@Starguy256 what’s the different between chess and lichess elo?

@Benzcrimsonitacilunarnebula

3 жыл бұрын

@@CheddarBro i dont think mind blank 1min just move move and hopexfor a win c:p.

Levy is a chess player of the common man that's why he does well in ELO guessing. Hikaru is a super GM whose skills put him on a level with few others so it's harder for him to recognize the chess playing of the common person lol

@jonathancorwin5133

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like his experience as a chess coach/teacher is a big reason as to why he does better

@briant1745

2 жыл бұрын

That and Levy's most iconic youtube series is about guessing Elo

*GothamChess:* "Nice trick." *GMHikaru:* "Nice trick into the draw :D"

@elliottbouchard9346

Жыл бұрын

lmao

Hikaru is too strong and used to chess, I think he has a hard time imagining how sub IM people think about chess. And Levy was a chess teacher, so maybe it is more natural to him and the blunders not as surprising.

@Tyler-bp4md

3 жыл бұрын

not to mention his guess the elo series which gave him additional experience

@JoeARedHawk275

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tyler-bp4md Honestly he was already guessing pretty good near the beginning the series

@PHeMoX

3 жыл бұрын

@@JoeARedHawk275 I think Hikaru plays against lower ELO players quite a bunch too though. They probably both have a good understanding what changes with higher rated play. It's not easy to really pinpoint the exact ELO. And Levy _actually_ has pleeeenty of guess the ELOs where he was way way way off.

@lizardi1037

2 жыл бұрын

@@PHeMoX yeah but levy is like "oh he took on e6 to make d6 weak even though its a positional blunder" cause he teaches chess so he knows where the blunders come from and the train of thought, hikaru just says "this is so bad, this is terrible," cause hes been an master level player most of his life

@stephenc.4319

2 жыл бұрын

It's def because Levy was a chess teacher. Hikaru got so good so quickly that he could probably life off playing pretty early on so wouldn't have needed to teach as much as Levy did.

Imagine if they REVIEW a old game of levy...and levy didn't recognise...and started yelling....😂😂😂

@reunion_k9375

3 жыл бұрын

BOSS

@user-svqmbiv

3 жыл бұрын

So, the creator of that website actually did that to Levy. He saw Levy was streaming his website and changed it to only his games.

@Joe-bb4yi

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-svqmbiv link?

@oaklogs7779

3 жыл бұрын

@@Joe-bb4yi I kinda want it too

@waterpidez6732

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-svqmbiv link

“Idiots are people too” - Levy Rozman 2021

@reginaanderson6733

2 жыл бұрын

all idiots are people but not all people are idiots

@adamwu4565

2 жыл бұрын

@@reginaanderson6733 All people are idiots at something, but some people realize this and some people don't.

I don't think Meier has disappointed someone so much in his life....

@joethomas8342

2 жыл бұрын

he was pretty disappointed

@randombutspecific

2 жыл бұрын

@@joethomas8342 i think he was surprised Meier really played knight e4

I know it's hard to guess right, but in hindsight it's funny to see that the 1362 player was considered better than the 2452

When Hikaru is hyperanalyzing a Bishop move by a 1300 player he looks at positional advantage and long term ideas. IRL 1300 players be like *I'm just trying not to blunder man*

29:30 Honestly queen takes pawn on b5 is literally the worst chess move I've ever seen LOL

@blazoraptor3392

3 жыл бұрын

I think this move can only be topped by playing something like Qd8 as black when there's a white pawn on c7/e7, the pawn takes and queens with back rank mate. I can't think of anything worse.

Lmao they literally called Meier an idiot in the first half lol

I love to see you guys together like brothers, discussing people's elo.

These two are the best! So much interesting content to keep us entertained! What separates Hikaru and Levy from other chess streamers is their opinionated personalities. They are not afraid to honestly engage with chat, their fans and most importantly their haters, which is hilarious!

Hikaru: literally drops his bishop in a professional game against Magnus a few weeks ago Also Hikaru: really? A gm played Ne4? Really? Really? I mean really?

@mandycruz

3 жыл бұрын

He wants to look like he's the best and any other gm lower than his rating is just "meh". That's why he makes it look that other gms are stupid when they blunder but he himself isn't.

@1995killswitch

3 жыл бұрын

That was pretty bad but it wasn't in the opening tbf Buuuut, that being said, I do feel hikaru was really going on a bit long about the ne4 blunder lol

@Isometrix116

3 жыл бұрын

@@mandycruz Oh so you’re the psychoanalyzing idiot Gotham was talking about when he recapped his game where he panicked into the hippo

@mandycruz

3 жыл бұрын

Okay okay, stop crying kid. So how much love do you have for hikaru? Lol

@mandycruz

3 жыл бұрын

Also don't start with "Oh" when you're gonna argue with someone. That makes you sound like a brat arguing with her boyfriend 😂

hikaru straight up changes his guess last minute to try and grab on to Gotham's genius without making it too obvious at the end to his chat

@lucasng4712

3 жыл бұрын

Thats the game

GuessTheElo series really paid off for levy

The bit where Levy tells Hikaru a trash talk story and Hikaru just TOTALLY ignores him and Levy is like :( is so good haha.

I thought the video title would be a funny diss to Levy's current tournament games and that the video would be a recap of one of Levy's games lol

@yagamilight5026

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I thought as well lmaoo

@Maxikinz

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that too

@LalinduSathmina

3 жыл бұрын

@@yagamilight5026 me too

@ImCalebRosengard

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, he is posting those as well

This video series is one of my favorite on all of youtube! Keep it up Hikaru!

This is a message to Hikaru's editor: you're a legend bro, keep it up!!😂😂

I think Hikaru is too good at chess he lost touch with the rest of us lol.

Chess Player: Plays Hikaru: Yeah, I have no idea you guys

I have seen low rated players create the most amazingly complex positions. Some of them I bet would even confuse Tal. btw the position at 3:48 yes you want to play Ke3 or Kg3 but due to the related squares principle Kf3 puts your K on a square from which you can play either Ke3 or Kg3 depending on black's move. Kf3 looks more principled.

30:09 Qxb5 I was waiting for Hikaru to say: "Yeah, it shows very good understanding, 1 piece for 2 pieces, nice"

Hikaru after every game: "I have no idea, you guys"

Levy: We wont show nicknames cuz u guys will write them mean messeges. Hikaru: Yeah *frowns cuz he wanted to insult someone in their dms in the first ep but mods didnt allow it*

gotta feel good being that 1300 with hikaru saying u played the game near optimally

"king goes both ways" 😂😂😂

The disappointment on levy’s face after the first game was GOLD.

12:35 just casually bans some people in chat

Every single round is just: "I'll try to come up with something... I have no idea for this one guys"

Miss an easy fork. Hikaru: It's 2150.

@annannz9047

3 жыл бұрын

@@aman-qj5sx Really? I am not convinced about the Magnus part.

@annannz9047

3 жыл бұрын

@@aman-qj5sx I do agree it doesn't prove much though. Just kinda funny.

@georgiykireev9678

3 жыл бұрын

Same energy as "how much could a banana cost, like 5 dollars?". The man is so much better than the regular people that he doesn't understand ratings at all

THE START MONTAGE THO

"I enjoyed it" You can see from his body language he HATES to lose at anything

@sethhansen4454

2 жыл бұрын

As much as I like Hikaru’s content I hate his attitude sometimes. Such a sore loser

@shevankaseneviratne1724

2 жыл бұрын

yeah dude :/

levy the goat in guess the elo

I feel like either the standard for lower rated chess players has gotten better or that grandmasters and international masters are so good at chess that they can't relate to being a beginner or being a intermediate player 🤔

Any game on elo guesser exists... Hikaru : I've no idea you guys

This is one of the best series of videos i have ever watched, on chess.

I thought this was going to be Hikaru reviewing round 4 of the las vegas games, that would have been a spicy title :D

I though this video was going to be.a recap of Levy's game. 🤣🤣

@ImCalebRosengard

3 жыл бұрын

He posted those as well

23:50 "it could be 2350"

he thinks you need 1500 to put a rook behind a pawn 😭😭😭

3:00 “your king goes both ways” KEKW

GMhikaru - "Let me talk to my chat for 30 seconds" continues to talk for 10 minutes

So in short, if you want to impress Hikaru, find one or two decent moves in the endgame.

Wow, that 725 now gives me hope haha

A 1300 vs a 1300 makes the game look like it’s 2000 rated. Hikaru and Levy overestimate the amount of blunders lower rated players make against each other.

Nice starting montage

Hikaru slashing gms love it

Guys I think Hikaru hasn't seen a 400 resign, not 100% sure tho, might need more confirmation.

Hikaru: I don't think a 500 would resign because he's blundered his rook for the 5th time today (I know it wasn't actually blundered). Also Hikaru: No way someone below 2000 would be able to count attackers and defenders.

1st guess: Hikaru "if Levy goes higher I go higher as well" -> proceeds to not go higher and loses first guess

Hikaru - " I don't know anyone below 2000 can play Nd2" Me who's 1500 ...."hey I can"

29:31 what a Rollercoaster of emotions.

Idk that Hikaru understands how often below 500s ragequit

Levy is the GOAT Elo guesser

Hikaru literally shitting on Meyer for 10 mins lmao

22:28 Imagine being 1300 and first Hikaru's thought about your game - this game is not 2600

Come now. Hikaru. That Meier game ending was too good for it to be anything else other than a GM game. Only people who actually take chess that seriously will get to that level to be able to practice end games often enough, to get to that level. People makes mistake (plus idk, maybe Meier trying out something?) so yeah

If Hikaru was a fruit, he would be an apple.

@prathameshkapase2816

3 жыл бұрын

Huh?

@betterthanyou3465

3 жыл бұрын

He may not be a fruit but he definitely fruitY

@Losmanchik

3 жыл бұрын

Is there a place for apple juicer?

@nomemesonmangakas8571

3 жыл бұрын

If magnus was a machine ,he would be apple juicer.

nice start montage

would be interesting if the admin secretly adds a Magnus's or Stockfish's game. 😂😂😂

I just want to know why Meier doesn’t like Levy

I like when Hikaru is nice to Levy lol

Hilary said really? 10 times when he saw Miyer's game 😂😂

Hikaru don't feel bad if you can't beat Levy at this It's a long time running series on his channel and he's pretty damn good at it.

Hikaru fr just blasting Meier damn - Great content though :)

lol, with Levy on a tournament I actually thought that the title fo this video was regarding the tournaments players haha "The Explosive Games of Low Rated Players"

My favorite bromance on the Internet

You should do follow-ups where you invite the players to discuss their thought processes. Would be especially good to hear from the 1300s that play really well.

me, who plays kiddie countergambit to wayward queen every time:

Levy is such a god of guess the elo that the only 2 games he loses is a horrible 1400 game and his only weakness the 1600

400s never resign.. lmao.. 😂😂

LOL has hikaru ever seen a 400 😂

Superb intro!

GothamChess has the correct point. POG champs has professional coaches that instruct them to never ever resign, because you just need to practice and you never know when a 800 will hang a queen on a protected pawn.

These guys remember whole game playing blind folded yet can't recall who guessed first last game 🤣

When an IM and a GM are screaming “NOOO” and hiding there faces and you’re 725 study more

Why does Hikaru always say he has no idea, then proceed to give a logical explanation for the rating he guesses???

@madhuguru3130

3 жыл бұрын

Well it's the same as him saying "I have misplayed this somehow" and winning the game.

@Sid6260

3 жыл бұрын

It's same as "I don't care"

@1001011011010

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe, because he had no idea, he tried to work it out logically.

@annannz9047

3 жыл бұрын

I have no idea, either. Wait, maybe I have an idea after all.

@ricobarth

3 жыл бұрын

He also routinely says, "I'm just very bad at chess."

36:37 lmfao my manz wanted to say 0

Love your videos man but can you get your editor to slow down the speed the ads transition? Giving me an anxiety attack 😂

29:36 didn't know this noise was something a human could make

Someone knows if the games they guess are all at certain time format? or they can be bullet, or rapid or wherever?? Because there is a huge huge difference in how someone plays depending the time format, and I dont remember hearing them discussing that..

@animefan7424

2 жыл бұрын

All are blitz games

Hikaru spends more time analyzing how bad these players than he does analyzing a game he involved with.

With that title i thought hikaru would cover the games of gothamchess xD

"idiots are people too"-Levy Rozman 2021

Old videos but depending on the order of the guesses Hikaru could have won a couple of rounds just by guessing one point lower/higher. Maybe that defeats the spirit of the game but it would be the same tactics that are used on The Price Is Right.

The Sidekick strikes back by defeating his sensei!

@jonathancorwin5133

3 жыл бұрын

I mean i get that its a joke, but levy's yt channel currently has more subs than hikaru actually

If you cut off the guesses with are more than 200 points away (which makes sense, because the opponents are also just 200 points away from each other) levy wins with 5:0 and Hikaru has one guess in range only. =D

32:00 my guess for Qxb5 is that this is a bullet game and White had 0.4s left on the clock

26:46 black made white appear to be a above 1362 player, black created white good moves and white is very creative soo xD, guess thats what B Fischer was refering to, that at lower elo you enjoy more chess games and at higher elo is just memory practice.

Hikaru: Sub-400 players shouldn't be allowed to resign. Basically sums it up lol

I knew the 1294 game was in the 1200 because that looks like a game I would play as a 1200 in blitz