My Great Grandparents were Germans living in Romania but managed to escape through Greece to England and finally to the US.

Such a shame we lost so many of our germans. We need them now more than ever.

Didn't the germans in Romania speak a dialect which is very different from standard German?

@werumensium385

6 жыл бұрын

they do have a very old dialect (i'm currently searching for info in this moment, that's how I found your comment) but they usually speak the standard german. if I'll find the documentary, I'll pass it on cheers from Romania!

@werumensium385

6 жыл бұрын

ok, here I am here's a map en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transylvanian_Saxon_dialect#/media/File:Deutschsiebenb%C3%BCrgen.svg it's called "schwaben" spoken by the "șvabi" (danubian saxons) the other dialect, which is closer to the standar german, is the "sachsen"

@chamboyette853

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the information. Do you know know anyone who speaks the language?

@helmutfleischer6635

4 жыл бұрын

YES! Of corse!!! I can tell u that 100% because i am a TRANSYLVANIAN SAXON from a Village nearly Sibiu! We call our Language: "SIWENBIERJER SOXESCH"! It sounds like i would say 98% the Language who is spoken in LUXEMBURG! For example: How are u doing? "WO GIT ET DIR?" I go now out with my Dog! : "IECH GION NEO GLIECH MET MIENJEM HEONGD AISSEN!" All the best for u!

@somalisomali5282

4 жыл бұрын

@@helmutfleischer6635 hi i have german ancestors from Vojvodina... But im serb.

Ask yourself how many Romanians wanted to leave Communist Romania as well, but couldn't because there was no "West Romania" where they could go to? Overall an interesting report, but slightly one-sided. I have no doubt West Germany also benefited from receiving highly-skilled and well-educated Transylvanian Saxons and Banat Schwabians. 6,000 euros for an engineer... quite a low price for a skilled worker.

@ive0804

4 жыл бұрын

Bravo,haiducule.Lămurește-i că sunt sărăcuți cu duhul ăștia pe aici.

@iliepetcan1736

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutly corect whn u have everything for free :health insusurance, schooling,free meal,free to learn a job ,free houses and thr prices for electricity,gas are cheap for u the human and thn u want to go into another country Roumania IT will lose because they invested a lot in u Like a person șo thts why its ok for germany to pay for this people

@falconheavy595

2 жыл бұрын

Back in the 80s it was huge

@tiborfarkas5180

Жыл бұрын

Romania had genocide again this German speaking people.

Siebenbürgen is so beautiful. Been there a couple of times when i was young. During soviet times you needed chocolate for the dog patrols in the train. They forgot checking passports over their beloved chocolate! :D Post soviet times it was a pack of coffee and a pair of shoes for the border guards so they don't strip your whole car apart :) As friendly as everyone i know and remember is/was, I am glad my grandmother left centuries of (family-)history behind and left so we (the coming generation) would grow up in germany. Bless grandma...the most authoritarian tyrant i ever met

people keep forgetting that Romania is a western nation in the eastern side of Europe. We speak a Latin derived language that is more closely related to Latin than even the Italian language, Everybody forgets how Winston Churchill SOLD Romania to the Russian in 1948 at for peace of mind for the UK (see "The percentages agreement" on wikipedia). We still suffer today at the hands of corrupt peasants instated to power by the Russian socialist colonization.

@Kaiserbill99

6 жыл бұрын

I find a number of comments like this from embittered Eastern Europeans blaming the West for their woes. I'm really not sure what Churchill nor any Western leaders could have done about the future of Romania short of starting a third world war given that the Soviets had occupied great swathes of Eastern Europe, including Romania, on the way to occupying Berlin . It was Churchill that first coined the phrase "The Iron Curtain" when warning about what became the Cold War. So Churchill was aware of the danger posed by the Soviets but powerless to do much about it given the Soviet occupation. Britain only entered into a war once Poland had been invaded and could have easily not entered into the war or sued for peace in a cosy relationship with Germany whereby it retained its empire and allowed Germany a free hand in Europe. But Britain did not. Romania was destined to become either a Soviet satellite or a German "sweat shop" irrespective of what Churchill or others' may have wanted. Had the Soviets not defeated the Germans in the East, I'm really not sure what would have been left of Romania and co. All the Jewish populations would have been completely eliminated and the rest would have become slave labour helping to build a graeter Third Reich. The Soviets were a lesser of two evils for Romania.

@noobicx7310

4 жыл бұрын

@tiglath pileser you didn't read all Nobody said Italian Is not Latin He said we are the only Latin country from the Eastern side of Europe!

In my distant ancestry, I had 6th and 7th great grandparents who were living in Romania. They were Hutterites who were exiled from German lands because, as Anabaptists, they were neither Catholics nor Lutherans. The original Hutterites of old were living in Alwinz (Vintu de Jos) as early as 1622, while the Carinthian (of Austria) deportees were shipped to Timisoara via boat on the Danube from Ybbs, Austria, in 1755. They joined the original group the same year, and even converted the dialect from that of Baden-Wurttemberg to Carinthian, which is what they still speak in America today. The group lived in Rumes (Romos), some were imprisoned in Hermannstadt (Sibiu) but were eventually released, and then passed through Cincu, Crit, Rasnov, Campina, and other settlements before making new homes just west of Bucharest. Ultimately they were pushed to moving to Ukraine (then part of the Russian Empire) because of the 2nd Russo-Turkish War, and by 1770 they left Romanian borders. They lived in Ukraine for 103-ish years before being forced to move to the US in groups when Russia was undergoing a pro-Slavic and militarization movement, so they made their way here to South Dakota, where they would establish their own colonies outside of standard American towns. Now they live all over both Dakotas, Montana, Washington States, Manitoba, Alberta, and Saskatchewan. I’d love to be able to find more history behind my distant Romanian cousins who I’ve discovered, it’s really an intriguing part of history!!

@Morskoy_Velican

Жыл бұрын

Awesome dude, for the first time I see that a person would know his ancestors before the beginning of the 1620s. So that you would understand how long it has been. Before Napoleon was born 200 years ago, America was discovered only 30 years ago, the Holy Roman Empire still existed. And this is just the beginning. It is amazing to realize that for our ancestors it was a simple reality.

@tiborfarkas5180

Жыл бұрын

That wasn't this time Romania. That was Transylvania or Austria-Hungary.

My ancestor Otto Gagel, a German, had a mill, bread factory, and bakeries throughout Romania. His properties were expropriated after WWII. What happened to the Gagel family? The palace was built on the site of his factory.

Why can’t you guys come back home? Germany is not your home,Romania was your home for centuries and now you’re just gone... Don’t forget that We didn’t sell you and the communists did.

We need some good germans here !

@ionelghiorghita688

Жыл бұрын

Where?! The remaining of them in Romania took control of properties they never owned especially in Sibiu. A few more will take all the country for free especially if they are coming with the Russian money as the Austrian companies.

Looks like germany relationship is very complicated with eastern Europe for centuries compared to west Europe. They are literally no such real speaking communities in ancient west Europe.

RIP Klaus Kinkel

Near WWII things had changed. "Where the German plow enters ..." Know what happened ?

Funny that i am a german romanian , my family stayed but i left in the 2000-s , visited lindenfeld 2010 .

@cip5949

3 жыл бұрын

does it look deserted just like in pictures? all houses turned to ruin?

@anatrampert1332

3 жыл бұрын

cip roofing has been damaged and fallen in , windows are broken but some still have courtins! Gardens have gone Wild! Otherwise it looks ok!

@cip5949

3 жыл бұрын

@@anatrampert1332 sounds like a good film set, for a film about post apocaliptic world

Yes exactly like that hurr durr!

I finished watching the video. I left my previous comment at the halfway point. It was actually more balanced than what I expected from the video's opening. Solid work by Deutsche Welle!

@lifes-a-dance

3 жыл бұрын

Where can I watch the full film? Thank you

How can you loose a German ?? Like the wallet ? Don't worry, their houses are fulllll of life. Gypsies are there, mating. A wonderful life.

from 3;34 to 3;54 the translation is not correct .The guy didnt mention about asking more money for people from banat.Please pay fair

@andacormos5192

3 жыл бұрын

play fair

Ok.. don't get me wrong here. Ceausescu was a monster and did horrible things to his own people. But is anyone else disturbed after watching this video about the German concern for their own ethnic group only? Not good.

@MajinOthinus

3 жыл бұрын

I know this is a VERY late comment and I do not expect any reply or such, so this is just here for anyone coming by. That position is basically along the lines of: We have no right to intervene in other states internal affairs, where it doesn't massively conflict with our national interest, but Germany, as the most powerful German state, *does* also represent the interests of those of German ethnicity world wide, so we'll only concern ourselves this way with other states internal affairs where it does concern those cases.

@falconheavy595

2 жыл бұрын

So Germany is also supposed to pay for every Romanians ?

Actually Lindenfeld is close to where I live, a ghost village, there is only a shepheard left and a bunch of ruins. Also the view is amazing. If anyine is interested in visting, there is a newly built place where you can get food.

interesting report, thanks.

but the question is why the grrmans went there in romania?

@makkfitty1627

4 жыл бұрын

When th Gemans weere settled in Transilvania Romania did not exist the Gmans wee broght in to work the unpoulated lands.

@MajinOthinus

3 жыл бұрын

Because those lands were originally part of Austria-Hungary, before it was taken over by Romania after WW1. The German diaspora was originally quite huge and spread over most of Europe (especially eastern Europe) and Russia. Many Germans also settled along the whole length of the Danube, even outside of German states. Apart from POWs from WW2, there were also thousands of Germans living as far east as Kazakhstan and Mongolia whose forefathers had been brought there as farmers to populate and develop the land. For example, in 2003, there still lived over 300,000 ethnic Germans in Kazakhstan (2% of Kazakh the population at the time). After WW2 and the cold war, most Germans were either expelled or fled/emigrated back to Germany, like with Romania.

@pulidobl

3 жыл бұрын

To the Banat, by invitation of Empress Maria Theresa

@evasmith2705

2 жыл бұрын

At that time Erdely( Transylvania) belonged to the Hungarian Kingdom and the kings invited good people to move there , first after the mongolian invade (1241-42) and second time after the Ottoman Empire left Hungary ( and killed or enslaved many thousands of Hungarians and left huge territories inhabited). That's how the germans(saxons ) got there.Later on Erdely(Transylvania ) was unfortunately given to Romania by the "Big Four" after the WW 1st.

@blucher6234

2 жыл бұрын

@@evasmith2705 Transylvania was is and it will be Romanian, I live in Transylvania we don't want to be part of Hungary.

I got some friends who's parents fled from Siebenbürgen in the 80s and early 90s. One told me when his mom got a job here in bavaria, working with computers, she thought computers were actally "human-like robots", because she never saw one before :D he also told me that when his mom and dad were watching a german comedy-show which made fun of then-chancellor helmut kohl, his mother got scared because in Romania it was very dangerous to make fun of a politician (dictatorship), and she told her husband to switch of the TV immediately. when my their son (then 18 years old/good friend of mine) walked to our town hall to get a passport, the office secretary asked him "a german passport?". he was shocked to be told that he obviously also had (has?) the romanian citizenship. he wanted the german passport of course, and to this day never went back to Siebenbürgen where he left as a baby. His father still visits Siebenbürgen from time to time, always carring some cigarette packs...for the romanian police as a "gift".

@spottdro55el18

4 жыл бұрын

That's just sad.

@ionelghiorghita688

Жыл бұрын

Actually everyone react differently. What was really bad was happened in the Stalin period. In the Ceaușescu time we had a lot of jokes about Ceausescu and no-one reacted. What was punished was to lie about the reality or to try to instigate or organise protest. If you was decided to contest an issue you could do it oficial and much easier than today, crossing the harsh bureaucracy, for the social quiet they tried to sort out most of the problems. My father was complaining something all the time and helped a lot of people claiming different issues. He was blind and me, as a child, I had to lead him to many audiences even to the ministers cabinet.

Unfortunately, this exodus was a bad thing for Romania and for germans who left their homeland(some centuries of presence in Sibiu, Brasov...) for the hope of a better life. I doubt they found a better life, given the fact that they were not an oppresed population of Transilvania, but a priveleged one. Just think that Sibiu city have a german ethinic mayor, Klaus Johannis. The romanians regarded the german ethnics as a superior nation.

@spottdro55el18

4 жыл бұрын

@tiglath pileser No, they should not be ashamed for that. Romanians, Hungarians, Germans lived in harmony. Yet, retards appear and destroy everything (or they want to destroy this harmony), but they just bark.

@makkfitty1627

4 жыл бұрын

Spottdro55el Under HUNGARIAN RULE YES

@ive0804

4 жыл бұрын

@@makkfitty1627 hungarian rule was a nightmare.they have magyarised even the germans.hungarian rule will not be possile.maybe on the moon,so, go there!

@makkfitty1627

4 жыл бұрын

@@ive0804 700 years of prosperity a Nightmare hmm ? Then 40 years of romanian rule was GENOCIDE

@makkfitty1627

4 жыл бұрын

Alex C tell about ceausescu or the secret police who got even more rich after 1990 , before 1990 romanoa sold germans , ater 1990 they sold children now romanians leaving by millions because they are treated really good by their own BOIARS .

Romania regrets and wants back

@nicolaeadrian7882

2 жыл бұрын

nah... u cant take hungarians too lul

@emifloppa9830

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicolaeadrian7882 because we dont need hungarians...

@ionelghiorghita688

Жыл бұрын

What means România?! We are not able to bring back the romanians! Part of the globalization is to bring other people in each country and make the older citizens to leave. The people identity is inconvenient for the world financial leadership.

@emifloppa9830

Жыл бұрын

@@ionelghiorghita688 ok but the germans in Transilvania have a long history, 1000 years, even 90% of the cities from there are founded by saxons

Sad. 😢😢😢😢

Tragic.

They did the same with Hungarians

@bujdososzekely

5 жыл бұрын

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@cip5949

3 жыл бұрын

sure..! that's why today there are more hungarians in romania than they were in 1930.

@selcovoilucian8253

3 жыл бұрын

Wish we could they can have you at a discount

@evasmith2705

2 жыл бұрын

@@selcovoilucian8253 , for you , everything is for sale.

@ionelghiorghita688

Жыл бұрын

@@evasmith2705 everyone can leav for free. Even the romanians. We didn't call anyone but we were too welcoming. It was happened as in the North of the Bucovina. We were too welcoming and today Zelensky said that we invade them territories. The Hungarians problems is that them documents attest how the Hungarians fight and conquer along two hundreds of years part of Transilvania. They even had to adopt some transilvanian romanian nobility as Iancu de Hunedoara / Janos Huniady and many others to be able to control the area. Even so Almas and Făgăraș was owned all most of the time by the Vallachians.

I agree with the former foreign minister of Germany pretty discusting behaviour by the Romanian government at the time. Practically holding people for ransom.

And all this was posible because a bad boy of austrian origin Dolfi H.by name started the devastating ww II that had as consequence the redrawing of Europe political map.So Romania has been transformed from Kingdom of Romania ruled by a dinasty of german origin-Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen-into a Popular Republic i.e. Comunist dictatorship.

@Marzelmusik

3 жыл бұрын

And >All that< happened because the western powers of WW1 were salty and made the treaty of Versailles, effectively enabling this to happen.

@ionelghiorghita688

Жыл бұрын

@@Marzelmusik that moment was the only fair thing in matter of the self determination of the people. If today would do the same in Ukraine would be not necessary a war. But the game is made underneath the table. The end of the empire was necessary, the next smash of the countries is just part of the game control and destroyed identity.

So sad..these people were among the most productive in Romania-now the Transylvanian heartland is reverting to forest.

@d1427

6 жыл бұрын

forest is good, what's wrong with the forest?! the forest will always return and lasts much longer than people.

@pizdanpula223

4 жыл бұрын

You must be joking , it's greater than ever . It has nothing to do with this story though . Many germans have returned after the colapse of communism

Thank you, Germany.

Transylvania was part of Dacian Kingdom long ago 1th century CE. The Hungarian kingdom occupied Transylvania around 16th century.

@evasmith2705

2 жыл бұрын

In your dream....Hungary was building churches , libraries , towns in Erdely( Transylvania) from 1000AD , nobody lived there , perhaps a few tribe here and there...your "dacian Kingdom" was over the Carpathian mountains.

@blucher6234

2 жыл бұрын

@@evasmith2705 Take a map and you also need a brain

@nicolaeadrian7882

2 жыл бұрын

yeah.... hungary stole the lands ... nothing but justice happened.

@evasmith2705

Жыл бұрын

@@cypher221 , where?when? romanian land is east of the Carpathian mountains , and nobody discriminated your people over there.

Pay back