The "or Excalibur Prime" hurts every time

This is why I wholeheartedly believe every frame should have an augment slot. Certain builds use more than one, and there could be a way to implement augment mod adapters which would then give us even more space on our builds.

@heroicxidiot

4 ай бұрын

A slot opens up for each adapter you throw in but getting the adapters is a grind. I think that's a fair trade off

@fejotore

4 ай бұрын

No more grind, just add the slot and that's it

@DennyPhantom

4 ай бұрын

Brother, just use the STR arcane so you can remove a STR mod We get so much space for mods now as you can use arcanes for STR, Dura, HP, Armor

@HereForTheCupcakes

4 ай бұрын

@@fejotorewhat about builds that want to use more than 1 augment? It wouldn’t have to be a grind, just add it as another reward or add it to teshin’s rotation or even arbitrations, sorties, nightwave etc. Things most people with regular access to augments are probably already doing anyways.

@HereForTheCupcakes

4 ай бұрын

@@heroicxidiotsomething along those lines. Every frame should come with one singular augment slot by default, and every subsequent augment slot would require an augment adapter. Frames that can have builds using 2 augments like rhino, mag, zephyr, equinox would benefit a lot. And in general every build with an augment slot would save a slot and potentially and mod points if the slot was forma’ too.

An even easier solution: Make the sentience toggleable in the armory just like Khora's daggers or any incarnon evolution.

@twilightgaming5023

4 ай бұрын

It's easy to say this, but the code needed for it is more then likely why they've never fixed the bug. Sometimes that's just how bugs are.

@TheTundraTerror

4 ай бұрын

@@twilightgaming5023 I'm sorry, but if they're able to release a mod for it, they can make a toggle.

Reminds me of those augments for Zephyr and Nezha that disable their passives for a teeny tiny strength buff

@ChozenBardoUmbra

4 ай бұрын

not a tiny strength buff, it is the equivalent of Power Drift, an existing mod, that is also an Exilus.

@darthplagueis13

4 ай бұрын

Well yeah, it's another example of an augment that disables a passive that some players find more detrimental or annoying than beneficial.

Not to mention I've found that this mod stops working at random for no apparent reason. It seems to be most common in conjunction survivals on lua. They'll do anything but make umbra the prime alternative he was meant to be I suppose

@UmbraGuide

4 ай бұрын

Really? so its just bugged too...

@PeefSpogdar

4 ай бұрын

@@UmbraGuide Yep as usual with umbra, it seems they went out of their way to make it mediocre in comparison even to the base version.

@void--

3 ай бұрын

If you die, mod disables.

As much as things have improved with Rebecca at the helm, it's frustrating to see that DE still continues to release bandaid mods.

@lookalike4805

4 ай бұрын

Nothing has Improved.... DE was Scum then and DE is Scum Now.... That's exactly Why This Augment Exists and why people aren't Using Eclipse anymore and Why Nourish Got Nerfed despite There being Nothing Wrong With It. 👀 Its no likt 2 People Leaving Turned DE into a Whole New Company.

Real shit, I think we need a warframes option drop down where you can toggle some of these shit passives off. Cause making it a mod is just goofy at this point. We have how many mods where the entire point is just wholesale disabling a major part of a frame passive? 3?

@pixlTM

4 ай бұрын

would have been so much better

@senatorarmstrong1233

4 ай бұрын

Then we got mods that should just be baked into the warframe’s passive. Biting frost for example.

The only thing that makes it worth using is that It's an exilus mod

@duskdeadman4333

4 ай бұрын

The nice part is that you no longer need to deal with the 138 different bugs the passive has.

@Palayedeuhm

4 ай бұрын

@@duskdeadman4333what bugs does it have?

@calhoot3577

4 ай бұрын

Zephyr has the same Augment. Just use Power Drift. Umbra's sentience is useful for specific things too.

@FerunaLutelou

4 ай бұрын

Uh, no. I use that for PSF

@--T3NN0--

4 ай бұрын

@@FerunaLutelou i just use unairu

the entire point of umbra is his sentience, only 15% for that trade off is horrible

@DukeofRizz

3 ай бұрын

Wouldn't say horrible. His sentience can bring more trouble than it's worth, and recasting abilities after every transference is very annoying. The trade off is fine, though not perfect. Would've been better if DE fixes the issues, but for now this is all we can get for him. If you value Umbra as a person, play without the augment. If you don't then use it. Simple as.

@TyNewman-zg3rh

27 күн бұрын

​@@DukeofRizznah still ain't fine 15% is close to no difference...

Was looking at a forum post about this and someone said a nice rework for Umbra would be to reverse the effect. By default, make Umbra inactive, but with an augment mod you can activate its sentience

@natereborn3204

4 ай бұрын

i mean yea but they could also just try to fix the bugs : \

@johnprice6271

4 ай бұрын

I feel like that ruins the point of Umbra then. He's the only Frame to be fully sentient without Tenno control, take that away and you might as well just have another Excalibur reskin. Plus it would completely destroy the Sacrifice quest from both a Lore and Logic standard. Considering how pivotal that quest is to the story, DE would most likely never do that.

@00Grimreaper00

4 ай бұрын

Just make it a toggle ability to have the choice to make him Sentient or not without an augment since He is an umbra after all.

@thestarryeyedobserver

4 ай бұрын

no. his sentience should be kept, that's his whole shtick. it should just be a toggle.

@OrashiTV

4 ай бұрын

@@johnprice6271 I agree. I’m just relaying a suggestion I saw that made sense within the context of how the augment mod works, but they should either fix the channel ability bug, or make sentience a toggle.

If DE doesn't want to add a toggle, then how about an overhaul to how Umbra's sentience works? There exist two Umbras, player Umbra and specter Umbra. When the warframe is in use, player Umbra is in play, as with any other frame, while specter Umbra exists out of bounds in a safe box with his AI disabled. When transference is active and the operator is out, player Umbra teleports to the safe box while specter Umbra teleports in at his position, waking up. Transfering back into the frame will teleport specter Umbra to the box and disable its timers while player Umbra will naturally return like with all warframes, but he'll keep timers and channeleds. This way, Umbra doesn't turn into a different entity, thus shutting down his timers, and is just switched out for an identical entity with specter AI. It also helps the concern of ammo usage and taking damage when not in use, since the specter would have a separate pool for both and the real Umbra would be unaffected like any normal frame while hiding in the box.

I think it’s fine. I run a high efficiency low duration build (unless you’re using the augment for Radial Javelin, duration is pretty useless), so I don’t even use Flow. Also I’m pretty sure using Slash Dash makes you immune to knockdown effects, and since it’s such a quick cast, you can react to incoming knockdowns (which are usually pretty telegraphed) and avoid them. Honestly it’s probably the best of the disabled passive augments, since the thing it’s disabling is less of a tool and more of a hindrance.

Well, I love Umbra as it's my favorite frame, so I see this as a glorious win, even though DE could just have fixed a so important frame for the lore.

This augment is the WORST case of bandaid solution I have ever seen DE pull out, because it's a lot different than when they design an ability poorly and use an augment to fix their design mistake, this augment is meant to "fix" a bug that has been bothering us for A LONG TIME, and it outright shows how lazy they are. This augment should not exist and to me it tells me they are not going to bother fixing the actual bug anytime soon

they should up the strength increase to make it a more viable pick over Power Drift

Feels weird watching Warframe gameplay with your view leaning to the right side instead of the left lol.

0:23 this is legit not true its not a bug the specter turns the ability off its an ai issue not a bug. the wiki is known for misinformation

Hey man, I don't know if you can read this since it's been a few days since this upload, but I love the background music you chose (Mario Kart: Wii's main theme). The game was a big part of my childhood and I've been listening to the theme at work basically ever since I watched this video. Keep using it if possible! C:

Since Umbra Excal sometimes bugs out and don't move by himself, this augment seems valid enough to use.

Power drift

Conumbrum

can we get a video for your hud colors cuz they look sick

This is the type of thing that feels like it shouldve been a setting N if they did that then they could let you make any frame have the umbra running arround thing, cuz it just feels like a uhh niche playstyle that could work on other frames I’ve never rlly had a reason to go into operator when playing umbra even on steelpath So it rlly doesnt feel like a mod worth using I feel like it’s main thing is it doesnt feel like a trade off, if it was 30% than that’s a different story

@twilightgaming5023

4 ай бұрын

there are enemies and content that require you use operator, not to mention operator abilities can add a lot to a build, or are just good for rapid traversal. A lot of the last few content updates have pushed us towards more and more op usage tbh. Zarmin, Lua's Prey, Whispers, etc.

Wait, some of this is not true. His blade stays out when going in and out of operator. This was changed a while ago.

We like these shorts. very informative and quick to the point

@koalteufel7947

4 ай бұрын

dont speak for me fleshbag

In the very near future we get an update to mod slots.....it'll be like the mechramech page with like twelve slots. Not just to certain frames but in general mods rework. Maybe. Idk. A lot of mods do the same thing in action so like idk. Still love the game tho

I think I'd rather have an Umbra that doesn't immediately lose all his health in the steel path.

@thorham1346

20 күн бұрын

L2B 😛

So it's a poor man's power drift.

This would be a wicked augment if it also gave excal umbra normal excals passive

@darthplagueis13

4 ай бұрын

Excal Umbra already has normal Excals passive. The sentience thing doesn't replace it, it's just a second passive.

Many people just actively do not want the sentient frame running around, even if the issues were fixed. So since Umbra is strictly better than vanilla Excal in all other regards, this augment is a small price to pay for that utility.

This is very nice for my slash dash build using roar as a subsume over exalted blade since I don't need psf anyway. I still would've preferred they fixed it but it's still really nice even without the extra strength.

@lookalike4805

4 ай бұрын

That's because 15% Strength is Literally Nothing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@dippydingleduck

4 ай бұрын

@@lookalike4805 yea I agree it's stupidly low. It should be raised to like 50% imo

Better off using power drift or buff the augments, but highly unlikely

Passive Augmenta need an Augment Slot. Biting Frost, Warrior's Rest, Valence mod for Lavos, that mod for Zephyr....

It hurts every time you say “use excal prime.”

I totally agree. Turning off passive skills with mods seems like the most useless way to do it. I just wish they could turn passive skills on and off without mods. When I asked for that, they asked for augment mods. LMAO, looks like DE isn't that tech-savvy.🤣

I didn't think they've ever make a mod exclusive to Umbra....

I got jumpscared by nova umbra voice 😭😭😭

Excal Umbra main here, I think it's an ok mod. I was already running power drift so the difference for me is only the 30% knockdown resistance. I have to run Brief Respite a bit more before giving a definitive response but I don't remember running into problems. Also if I wanted something about knockdown resistance I wouldn't be running a 30% slot machine but something more reliable. I find it shocking how people find the 15% strength too little and want more, often equivalent to already existing mods. I guess these are the average warframe players who just want to see big numbers and don't see the bigger picture.

They should have just removed Sentience on Umbra and instead of "Warrior's Rest" and given us "Warrior's Awakening" which gives him back the Sentience.

I tried to run this, and as you said, umbra needs double the amount of mod slots to use comfortably. If you're like me, exalted blade augment is already eating up a slot on you build, still dont know why there isnt, at least, one slot for augments. I also run the javelin mod, so thats a thing too. Umbra forma slots nowadays are pretty much power crept outta the game, since the introduction of a few things, molt augmented being better than umb Intensify, umb fiber is a joke bc well, armor in this game lol, and umbral vitality is meh, if you can proc heat on abilities, archon vitality is your go to. Besides that, try playing a melee frame without PSF, its gonna be an experience as far as I can tell.

You mean, need rework?

*_i feel like most people who complain like crazy about this augment are either people who constantly shield gate, or who uses health or shield pads or whatever they're called_* *_like hello the awful thing about Excalibur Umbra is that when you go into operator mode, your warframe isn't gonna get healed (like regen shield or proc an operator arcane that heals the warframe after 4 seconds or so as someone had said), unlike other warframes, and so it's much harder to survive properly_* *_honestly i'd say this augment is really good for people who doesn't constantly shield gate or use infinite overguard or something, even if the strength increase is pretty low_*

No But bs that the bugs arnt actually being fixed also u have ur 2 and sldie attack 4 for cc and ur 1 s

The only solution for this is giving the mod more benefits than prime sure footed, otherwise its sitting in the dust.

Its not useless its just a bandage for something they couldn't fix

At least its cheaper than power drift capacity wise, right guys?... haha... Im just happy my boy got his first augment

@doctorhealsgood5456

4 ай бұрын

Getting a nap is not exactly the most exciting of augments though.

@HARDHITTER3707

4 ай бұрын

@@doctorhealsgood5456 yeah true, I just thought it opened up the possibility for more and better augments

Honestly if they put it to 25 strength at least I would at least accept trying it on a build but 15 is to low to consider with umbra.

@unusualscyra

4 ай бұрын

besides the fact that the only other strength mods you can fit in that slot are also all 15% more power strength. same as with the other augments that turn off passives.

@BaeBunni

4 ай бұрын

@@unusualscyra yea but Zephyr's feather fall and Nezha's slide don't actively take up ammo, shorten your buffs or make you lose hp they are just mildly annoying enhanced movement.

@unusualscyra

4 ай бұрын

@@BaeBunni on paper the augments do the same thing, that is the reason for the same strength increase. ofc it is not quite the same in practice but still.

in real life noone gives you quests :) oooh, two handed skana, now I get it

@cheesejuice_

4 ай бұрын

wait no this is impossible

Finally I don't have to get regular Excalibur because of my dumb Umbra AI ruining the abilities.

"use excaliburg prime" ooo yeah use the founder exclusvie why i never think on that

@omegalulkappa5640

4 ай бұрын

He clearly said " use excalibur or prime".

@megasenpaiiid8768

4 ай бұрын

@@omegalulkappa5640 but why he mention the prime nobody has it only founders

@juliasayllas611

4 ай бұрын

​@@megasenpaiiid8768because excal prime exists and founders also look for guides?

@lookalike4805

4 ай бұрын

Damn This Guy is Extra Salty. 😳

no one has primed sure footed

@lookalike4805

4 ай бұрын

I have it ... And I'm Im only MR 5😝

@00Grimreaper00

4 ай бұрын

I have it but personally I never bothered using it

dead on arrival

Honestly, its just the same as the Titania, Nezha, or Zephyr mods. Not worth using? Probably, but it's nice for people who dont want the passive.

@UmbraGuide

4 ай бұрын

The difference is those passives aren't a hindrance to gameplay, Sentience is.

1:10 "This means you're left with 5 mods" Who told you that? lmao you can just replace them with other polarities

@UmbraGuide

4 ай бұрын

That's.. thats what I literally said, forma out the umbra slots and keep 2 or 1

@andrewsabin7679

4 ай бұрын

​​@@UmbraGuide Apparently some people dont like to use the tools called 'ears' 😅

@asdf30111

4 ай бұрын

@@andrewsabin7679 They just failed the first objective on Munio. I am guessing a mania spawned and force pulled them away as they were trying get to it.

It’s essentially No difference with A Power drift mod. (Both mods put. 15% power strength) Edit I use Wrathful advance on my excal’s one However When I hop out we operator Wrathful advance doesn’t go away. With life strike on my melee’s (Syam and Exalted blade) Edit 2: gonna leave my build here if anyones curious. Build: Subsume: Wrathful advance over Slash Dash (I never used Slash dash as much but WA gives Teleportation and crit chance) Aura slot: Steel charge (Or any aura mod if your willing to put a Aura forma) Exilus Slot:Power drift Arcanes: Arcane Energize and Molt augmented Umbral Vitality,fiber,Intensify Adaptation (added D polarity next to All 3 umbra mods) Transient fortitude (With a Added V under The first Umbra slot) Primed continuity (not fully ranked up yet) Chromatic blade (With Corresponding polarity so you can use Any of excal’s Augments) Primed flow (also not fully ranked) Archon shards: 3 crimson 2 Azure (for better Stats use Tauforged if your able to acquire Tauforged shards) Azure: x2 +50/55 energy max (+ 100/110 energy max) Crimson: x2 +15% ability strength (giving 263% strength) x1 +15% ability duration (making 133%) Edit 3: I’ll do some math to see how much Strength gets added with Molt augmented to the modded strength I have on here. (it’s 323% strength) If you have the time to do this try to have all of these maxed in order to maximize this build if possible. I will update this again once I’m done doing the math since the Umbral mod set gives more strength when all 3 are combined.

all augments should just be applied to a frame and toggled on or off in arsenal.

@ChozenBardoUmbra

4 ай бұрын

bad news, but the current gameplay director directly disagrees with that.

@0Rosanna

4 ай бұрын

Definitely not all augments but for augments exactly like this one? Absolutely

@kaitanaroyr

3 ай бұрын

@@0Rosanna no reason it shouldnt be for all augments

@kaitanaroyr

3 ай бұрын

@@ChozenBardoUmbra they will always take the lazy way out

@ChozenBardoUmbra

3 ай бұрын

@@kaitanaroyr the reason Pablo gave, is because then any augment made will become mandatory in the build, and he likes the current way, where you have to sacrifice a mod slot for it's power. His words.

Id rather have his ai over slight strength.

Umbra main here, this augment is a JOKE and basically an insult to us, we're basically being punished for playing the best AVAILABLE version of excalibur in favor of GARBAGE passive that has no actual benefit except for a niche afk strategy is a niche gamemode, it's not a passive it's more of a nerf and when pablo was asked about fixing it he gave a very vague answer that could mean a fix for it may never come. Imo the passive should have been removed from the base kit and then added as an augment, asking us to give up PSF on someone like excalibur or other mods on someone as squishy as excal who needs every slot is a joke and giving psf on him is a death sentence in higher sp levels, i'll keep giving feedback about this situation on the forums and i hope every umbra main does the same ...

@williamemami3507

4 ай бұрын

i think if they made the augment disable passive and just have PSF instead of 15% strength maybe that could work

@Theguyoverthere603

4 ай бұрын

Dramatic much?

@Waelleto

4 ай бұрын

@@williamemami3507 And it'd be so much better for new players but we know that won't happen sadly tho it's a 100% valid suggestion

@HARDHITTER3707

4 ай бұрын

What they need to do is buff the passive, fix its bugs, and give us a dedicated augment slot for all frames. Personally I really like umbras passive but it's just so bad on higher levels. If it bothers you so much you could build normal excal like I did, it's not Umbra but it works for stuff like level cap.

@dr-chompz7312

4 ай бұрын

Use Base Excal, it'll save you mod slots that excal needs since hes already starving.

Shouldn't Umbra be...I don't know, advantage over normal Excalibur, on par with Excalibur Prime if you didn't pay aaaaall the way back, or simply didn't play the game? Especially after a nice story and a major reveal what warframes actually are? Just opinion. Also, to primed sure footed....knock it down to 80 or 90%, not 100%...since its basicaly a must have on most frames...which pushes other options far behind. But same, just an opinion as it seems...too powerfull

Just leave flow out of your builds. Energy economy is honestly not an issue anymore.

Cringe augment, just let us helminth passives with some basic options and this is it

@tamalpodrido8960

4 ай бұрын

Pablo said that solution would take a whole lotta work, so it seems this is the only solution left.

This mod is stupid. DE should have just made it a toggle in the armory.

Ya it is useless to the very beginning

You should not be using flow

@Purinsu.

4 ай бұрын

Why not?

@UmbraGuide

4 ай бұрын

Ah yes, because I definitely don't need energy max mods to help my energy economy on excalibur of all warframes....

Yes... It's Useless.... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Umbra no longer dies when transferring easy fix for mod text

@bloopletank2491

4 ай бұрын

That doesn't address the problem of him turning off your buffs and abilities

@dontassociate

4 ай бұрын

Well its a de bandaid like usual so… they couldve just added a passive toggle switch that gives 15 str in exchange but its gotta be a mod

It’s a trash mod. DE needs to fix the Bugs that plague his Spector form.

W mod it just sucks thats all

Thats trash. Power drift does the exact same thing...

It’s pretty shit

Terrible mod with some niche utility.

Umbra is shit. Accept it and move on.

@thorham1346

20 күн бұрын

I couldn't disagree more.