Great video, there's surely a huge amount of work behind it! It's almost touching to see in the Pre-Proto-Germanic stage that most of these words could still take another path and evolve in a more "Slavic way". A few examples just for the fun in Proto-Slavic: *bordà (beard) - *âje or *âjьce (egg) - *ě̀sti (eat) - nôktь (night) - sněgъ (snow) - vědě (knows)

@LexisLang

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Obviously, Proto-Slavic doesn't come from Pre-Proto-Germanic, but it makes sense that you see similarities. This is the stage where a lot of the "messiness" (laryngeals, syllabic sonorants, etc.) disappears, so it's easier to see what's going on. The two also developed somewhat near to each other, so there may be similarities in their development. I'm more a Germanicist than a Slavicist like you, so I'm not very familiar with Slavic. :)

"wit" is a word

@LexisLang

2 ай бұрын

It is indeed, although that fact may or may not have slipped my mind when I wrote this! ;D

I evolved the Minecraft and Geometry dash (Minekraft, Geometri da(sh)) While trying to respect all of the sound shifts. (I showed the step by step evolution too) PIE: Minekraft, Geometri da(sh) - PPG: Minekraft, Geometri da(sh) - PG: Minixraf(th), Kiami(th)ri ta(sh) - LPG: Ninixrof(th), Kiani(th)ri oa(sh) - PWG: Nenexrof(th), Keane(th)ri oa(sh) - OHG: Nenexruofd, xieaniedri uoa(sh) - MHG: Nenexryofd, xieniedri yoε(sh) - MG: Nonokroyofd, kyonyodry oyoε(sh) It might not be very accurate, but I'm proud of it.

@LexisLang

Ай бұрын

I'm glad you've enjoyed that! But I just wanted to run through this myself, so here's what I got. So, these words don't look very PIE, so I wrote them out in a more PIE style, trying to keep their sound as close as possible. I had: - Méynkraptos - Ǵometridas (I compounded this one for extra fun!) Now advancing them (hopefully wellish): PGmc: - Mį̄hraftaz - Kanðritaz (*e elided from *kameðritaz) PWGmc: - Mį̄h(a)raft (per words like PGmc *fį̄hlō) - Kandret OHG: - Mīharaft - Kantrez Gm: - Meiheraft - Kantrez (I feel like this would become Kantretz or Kantretze) I also ran "méynkraptos" through the Italian SCs, which gave "mincratto", I think. The really interesting one is Welsh, which I'm thinking will be the next video of this format I do. "Méynkraptos" evolved through to Welsh I believe would give "mwyraeth". :D

@theofficeroliviersamson4498

Ай бұрын

@@LexisLang Wow, first, the way you turned it in to a proto-indo-european-y word was awesome and artistic. But the way you evolved it so well, and the result sounded so well in German Welsh and definitely Italian is just... WOW, thanks for showing me the real way it would work (: Love your videos!!

@LexisLang

Ай бұрын

@@theofficeroliviersamson4498 Thank you! I suspect my conlanging experience helps me run through these kinds of things and know where and how to make the necessary adjustments. I'm glad you like what I make and I always like seeing familiar names with inquisitive minds in the comments. It's good to know people are actually engaging with what I do, more than just watching it. Please do keep doing that and I'll always be happy to reply to what I can, but if ever you want to chat about stuff a little more generally, my email's on my about page. No pressure of course, but you seem particularly curious and I'm always happy to help where I can! :D

This and the later Italian video are brilliant! Great to see each step of sound changes explained, and when you apply them step by step you really understand how those alien PEI roots become the familiar words we know and love. I noticed the word list you use was different from the one for the Italian video, I'm curious how do you decide which ones to use?

@LexisLang

Ай бұрын

Thank you! Glad to hear you like the videos! So, there are basically three things I consider in choosing the words. First and foremost, I go for words with an uninterrupted evolution from PIE to the modern language, without morphologically changing form much. So we can trace Italian "figlio" and "oro" and German "kalt" and "weiß" back to PIE forms, but those forms have no direct descendents in the other, so wouldn't be suitable for the videos. Second, I want to show off certain sound changes, like rhotacism, Grimm's law or the Romance palatalisation, so I try to pick words to demonstrate those. Third, I deliberately mix it up a little, so that the videos aren't basically the same list and you get to see other PIE words. Obviously, I stick mostly to the very stable forms, so several words are the same between the lists, but hopefully that explains the variation. Thanks so much for watching and engaging! :D

@JohnSmith-of2gu

Ай бұрын

Makes sense. Thanks for the explanation!@@LexisLang

@LexisLang

Ай бұрын

No problem! :)

Great and informative video. Nice job!

@LexisLang

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I'm really glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully more coming soon(ish). :)

Just subbed I expect more from you!

@LexisLang

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I have some plans. Hopefully they won't take ages to make! So glad you enjoyed :)

Nitpick: Since PWG is ancestral to English and English retains th, th -> d cannot have occurred in the PG -> PWG stage (or else English would not have th).

@LexisLang

8 ай бұрын

Only [ð] shifted during the PWG stage, not /θ/. This /θ/ phoneme then split (along with the other fricatives) into separate voiced and voiceless phones. We can see this ð > d shift in words such as beard ( In Proto-Germanic, [ð] was actually an allophone of /d/. I've actually made the mistake that it should have appeared as [d] in *kaldaz, due to this allophony, so my bad there. Hope this clears up the confusion. I'd like to do one of these videos for English at some point, where I can discuss this, but thanks for your very good question. :D

@JonBrase

8 ай бұрын

Specifically what brought it to my attention is that PWG itidi, sihwidi is not consistent with (Early modern) English eateth, seeth.

@LexisLang

8 ай бұрын

This one took some research. I believe the answer is that PG and PWG generally used -þ as the 3S verb ending. In certain verbs, however (maybe near fricatives?), it instead used a -ð. In English, these differences were later levelled by analogy to -þ, but in German, þ and d later merged, so even if it did happen, we couldn't tell. It just so happens that all the verbs I've used here are of the -d type, but most other verbs were in -þ. :)

Quite profound...emojis will keep communication vital!

@LexisLang

Жыл бұрын

Yes, emoji are interesting, aren't they? The latest stage in this communicatory evolution of ours. I should like to do a video on them. Perhaps some time in the new year. :)

Very interesting video! I would like to see English to!

@LexisLang

Ай бұрын

Thank you! I have a few languages I'd like to do with this, including English, so hopefully I'll do that at some point. Glad you enjoyed the video though! :D

@theofficeroliviersamson4498

Ай бұрын

@@LexisLang i like how other branches that come from I do European are strongly based on PIE but Germanic is just like; kwetwor? More like fedwor.

@LexisLang

Ай бұрын

That's really just the effect of Grimm's Law though. Other than that, it's not at all dissimilar from Welsh "pedwar". Big sound changes can easily distort how similar the languages actually are and Grimm's is certainly that! ;D

@theofficeroliviersamson4498

Ай бұрын

@@LexisLang yeah grimms law... (:

@theofficeroliviersamson4498

Ай бұрын

@@LexisLang when will you make the videos for English or French?

Someone mentioned Polish uses many Russian words...Portuguese uses Spanish words with a "polish" accent.

@LexisLang

2 жыл бұрын

Polish is related to Russian - part of the Slavic branch of Indo-European. I expect it's also taken some loans from Russian, but sadly I'm not familiar enough with the language to comment in depth. And yes, Portuguese and Spanish are also related. Both are Iberian Romance languages. Portuguese does sound a bit funny to some people. I guess it is kind of Slavic. :)

@johnrogan9420

2 жыл бұрын

@@LexisLang good writeup

How did you get the research in this video? Also I don't really under stand the {}_,() V: : # o (with stick)...

Sorry that I ask, but is the German flag purposefully wrong or did you just want to put the same colors there?

@LexisLang

25 күн бұрын

Neither, I completely messed it up! Pretty sure I checked several times when I made this and I still got it wrong. Very few people have noticed, though, so well done for spotting it! :Ь

@Frau_Brotchen

15 күн бұрын

Oh, so that's what it was. I was just thinking it was some random colours to liven the video up haha.

@LexisLang

12 күн бұрын

@@Frau_Brotchen I mean, it certainly helps with that too! :D

Proto-Germanic

@LexisLang

3 ай бұрын

Thank you!! I'm so pleased you like the video! =)

you sound like grian, a minecraft builder youtuber

@LexisLang

11 сағат бұрын

Do you think so? I'd say my voice is a tad lower and less inflectional, but I can maybe hear a slight similarity. :/

Schwa, or šəva, as it is called in Hebrew.

@LexisLang

26 күн бұрын

I was reading about that recently. As I understand it though, the Hebrew shva doesn't always represent schwa, does it? Just due to the vowel complexities of semitic languages. It is interesting to read about where these linguistics things come from though! :D

Nasal vowels...french

@LexisLang

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! French is famous for its nasal vowels and as you can see, it's interesting that English went through a nasal stage, too.

The second e in Eiche is actually pronounced as a schwa and not silent like you pronounced it. In fact, unstressed e in German is almost never silent, except in the sequences em, en, el when they're optionally pronounced as syllabic consonants, which is quite common actually, or in borrowed words, especially those from French or English

@LexisLang

Ай бұрын

Thanks for pointing that out. I did actually intend to pronounce it, but inadvertently omitted it. Complete mess up on my end - I really should have checked everything, but was just thrown by the MHG. Thanks for taking the time to comment, though! :)

Proto European...proto Indian..proto German

@yoti2155

2 жыл бұрын

In German, PIE is called Urindogermanisch ("Proto-Indo-Germanic"). They are indeed related.

@johnrogan9420

2 жыл бұрын

@@yoti2155 Gaelic of Ireland 🇮🇪 fled from Central 🇩🇪 Deutschland.

@yoti2155

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnrogan9420 The Celtic languages were originally spoken on the mainland. Gaelic itself was never spoken there except maybe by a minority. The speakers migrated as most human communities have.

@LexisLang

11 ай бұрын

:)

false information, i counted 23 words at the start

@LexisLang

Ай бұрын

As I said in my reply to your comment on the Italian video, I can only find 22 - two columns of 11. If you could let me know what the 23 words are, I'd be very grateful for finding a mistake. Besides, even if there were 23, I wouldn't say that's "false information", but rather a sneaky mistake. I'd be happy to edit anything I can if there really is another. :\