The Evolution of Comanche (1992 - 2021) - A Comparison
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In this video I make a detailed comparison of all Comanche games since 1992. The Comanche helicopter, discontinued by the US Army in 2004, was the template for this very popular action flight simulation series. The first part from 1992 was the first game ever to offer voxel graphics and was considered spectacular. The series continued until 2001, but then the developer Novalogic went bankrupt. A successor, made by NUKKLEAR and THQ Nordic, did not appear until 2021. Which game from the series do you like best?
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:30 Comanche (1992)
2:37 Global Challenge (1993)
3:04 Over the Edge (1993)
3:40 Comanche CD (1994)
4:02 Werewolf vs Comanche (1995)
6:53 Comanche 3 (1997)
10:20 Comanche Gold (1998)
12:12 Comanche 4 (2001)
16:00 Comanche (2021)
21:44 Final Comparison
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As for the original Comanche, one needs to appreciate just how beautiful those landscape graphics were for 1992.
@practicalphotography1235
Жыл бұрын
I love the 90s Comanche, and also Jane's Longbow 2.
@geekstar2937
Жыл бұрын
I was there when it was new and it was jaw dropping ultra high-end graphics back then :)
@johnroscoe2406
Жыл бұрын
@@geekstar2937 yeah I was there too hence my comment.
@Aerobix
Жыл бұрын
There were two great AH-64 Apache Games too. I think some had force feedback implementation too.
@joessmax
4 ай бұрын
That bump-mapped surface on the Comanche 4 was beautiful in 2001
Griffon 2-6 you are clear for take-off! - Forever in my head
@nighthawk8104
9 ай бұрын
This is Griffon 2-7 WE ARE GOING DOWN Because that Idiot Always going Rambo Style all in with Guns and Hellfires against a SAM... 😏
Comanche 3 hands down one of the best games of my childhood. Didn't to play gold or any of the others. RIP Novalogic
Nice work on the vid. Comanche 3 / Gold was the pinnacle in the series IMHO. It mixed the realism with fun gameplay pretty well. All the other ones were basically arcade shooters.
@GameIntrosFinales
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, yeah, Gold was the best. And with Hi-Res-mods it still looks good.
@markcorrigan3930
2 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@alihart
2 жыл бұрын
@@GameIntrosFinales High Res mods, you say? Be right back 😉
@JAnx01
Жыл бұрын
Yes, you can play Comanche Gold today and with some visual mods, there's not much more you could ask from a helicopter simulator. Comanche 2021 looks cool. It's basically a sequel to Comanche 4 and its arcady style of gameplay.
@neohimself
3 ай бұрын
exactly
My fav is the 98 version! I remember trying out the multiplayer option when suddenly I had a mate from Mexico. What a highlight back then this was! We used to meet in my evenings. Sadly I lost contact. Later I became a civil helicopter pilot and flew in many countries such as Switzerland and New Zealand landing on glaciers. What a fun live. Now I am a teacher, journalist and dog owner👍 thanks for this post. Over n' out!
Back in 2003 I remember I was blown away by how realistic Commanche 4 looked, how the boats slowly sink and leave fuel spill in water and the big explosion effects.
@sebastianebert4295
11 ай бұрын
Comanche 4 was one of the earliest DX 8.1 games ever made, so yeah the graphics were just wow in early 2002 when it came out. We were amazed about the rotor downwash effects and everything. Comanche turned into a really fast-paced arcade action game (not that the volcano missions of eralier version were lame, lol), sadly missing some realism Comanche 3 / Gold had.
@earthenscience
9 ай бұрын
@@sebastianebert4295 The graphics of Comanche 4 still look better than Comanche 5, which look gross
@sebastianebert4295
9 ай бұрын
@@earthenscience yeah it's just too colorful, similar to the NFS remake of NFS HP 2010. Comanche 4 looks a bit matte/flat nowadays, but good enough, tbh. For me DCS v1 Black Shark is more what Comanche 5 should have been...a simulation with good performance, graphics and also easy arcade mode, so you can just start w/o knowing 100 knobs. DCS v2 and v3, DCS World need much higher resources, but DCS v1 run on a Core2Duo PC w/o any issues, w/o looking less good in my opinion. A simulation should concentrate more on max FPS performance than on highest optics and effects. I think similar about UE4 vs. UE5, while the latter one needs much more resources for nearly no better graphics. It's already good enough. We go this way over and over again, having new DX shaders. need newer GPUs. I just have seen a UE4 vs. UE5 comparison, where the UE4 one has chandelier lights and the UE5 one looks like DX7 game, having less lights from the side only, which looks odd. Newer is not better in all cases. www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fdva7yvl6rsa91.png%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da904ceece91173fb90ac04224b713fd066be9cc7
I just really loved NovaLogic's "Voxel Space", because the terrain had so much more realism in the way the landscape was lit, and the depth & perspective.
@sebastianebert4295
11 ай бұрын
I wish we could make maps like with this simple method for Comanche games. kzread.info/dash/bejne/i4CNsZKSmLyeY9o.html Btw., Open Fodder has a random map generator, which from top view remind me of Comanche maps (green and blue). Very different game, but also fun and has some helicopters. Who knows who implements this real sandbox + projection + scanner to make some game maps. This would be ultra cool. And since we can even alter maps in realtime nowadays, there's endless possibilities...
I can never forget how every mission started - "Griffin 2-6, this is Omaha 1-6, you're clear for take-off'.
@patriciomarco
Жыл бұрын
Comaaanchiip in the skyy
The Comanche 4 engine sound is quite realistic, according to the real footages.
Comanche 3 had incredible visuals, atmoshphere, sound, ost and voice acting. Awesome. I only played 1 and 2 as a kid. damn I missed out on the best one.
@sebastianebert4295
11 ай бұрын
Same here, 3 and Gold seem to be the best in the series, also the most realistic ones. Nowadays I play DCS v1 Black Shark (the oldest one doesn't need much CPU ressources, but looks so real). It's like what Comanche 2020 could have been in my eyes. More realistic, less science fiction. I mean Ace Combat, HAWX and Comanche 2020 are cool, but very different. More shoot, less think.
Comanche 3 Gold was the closest they got to a sim, an excellent game. The series went downhill from there though unfortunately.
Comanche 4 ,so much nostalgia
My dad bought Comanche, I think it was a DOS version, but I remember thinking it was so cool that you could fly low in a valley then pop up and shoot. Good times.
I used to play Comanche 3 a lot as a kid.
Appreciate the recap on the 1992 version, it helped me remember all of the details that captivated me as a 7 year old. At the time, I found it to be an intriguing balance of action controls and tactical decision making. I remember being fascinated by the lower right HUD which followed the weapon system perspective. Having lost touch with the series since that point, it was also interesting to see the other titles. Thank you.
@GameIntrosFinales
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, same here, Comanche was one of my first games. As a kid, it felt and looked fantastic. When I got home from school, I would quickly finish lunch or homework just to play another round...
Excellent video. Fun memories of C4 all nighters. It was a tough game, unforgiving enemies. I didn't even know there was a 2021 version!
@GameIntrosFinales
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Thanks for the video! As a six year old kid, I became obsessed with Comanche: Maximum Overkill after my older brother bought it. I later pestered my parents to buy Comanche Vs. Werewolf after salivating over it at Best Buy and also got my parents to buy me Comanche 3 and Comanche Gold. I still remember excitedly installing Comanche 3 and later Gold after getting them for their respective Christmas times. Spent many an hour in that game. Was so into the game I had friends and family members ask me to "stop talking about Comanche". Since I saw your video, I told my dad about there being a new Comanche and he said "Whoah" and we talked about it for a bit. Ended up being a Novalogic fan and picking up Armored Fist 3, F22 Lighting 3, Delta Force (got this after surgery in 7th grade) and Delta Force 2. I did some modding for Delta Force: Black Hawk Down even though I never bought the full game. I did do some mod work force 2 as well. Spent many hours on Delta-Force2.net. RIP that domain. Thanks for the walk down memory lane! I give my vote to Comanche Gold as the best match of gameplay and graphics. Comanche 4 lost that Comanche feeling for me, though I did appreciate the graphics upgrade. This newer Comanche game looks enjoyable in its own way, but is quite the deviation from the original series. I was super disheartened by the program's cancellation, but was able to see one of the Comanches at Ft. Rucker, AL years ago. Fun fact about the original Comanche. Kyle Freeman programmed the engine and its game all in Assembly. Assembly is one step up from machine code thus making the game much faster than if written in another language. Thank you for the walk down memory lane.
@GameIntrosFinales
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support! It is cool that you were able to see a Comanche in real life. I love the shape and "stealth" tech of this heli. For my research for the video I read about Kyle Freeman's achievements, this guy was a programming genius. Back in 1992 as a kid I thought many guys were involved developing the engine, but he did it himself (although it was based on previous voxel reasearch for medical imaging), like John Carmack did with Doom. The nineties were great years for kids to grow up and the pioneer years for 3D graphics. Man, when the nostalgia kicks in...
@desreversti
2 жыл бұрын
@@GameIntrosFinales You're welcome! It was exciting to see. Definitely a bit smaller than I expected too, but it's a scout chopper, so that makes sense. I agree, that guy was one of a kind in his programming abilities. Like many programmers of his time, he did some amazing things with a limited amount of resources then available on computers. John Carmack did impressive work as well and really advanced graphic engines and FPS games as a genre. I hadn't thought about his tie into voxel applications for medical applications, but that makes sense as it was a huge use for it many years back. It was a smart move to transition it to video games. The 90s definitely were a great time for 3d graphics as there were many leaps and bounds in graphics and by extension the type and depths of games.
that Comanche 3 menu music(not the Gold version) is an absolute banger
@DeltaCentauri
Жыл бұрын
Yep
I distinctly remember my dad having Comanche Gold when i was like 6-7 years old. He had the joystick and everything. He'd teach me how to fly it and I remember that snow camouflage on the helicopter. I thought it was so badass haha. Thanks for memories!
Oh man! I used to play Comanche 3 when I was like 16. Good memories.
@rhalfik
2 жыл бұрын
Me too.
I've never played these games, but your videos always evoke the sort of excitement I felt growing up alongside rapid graphics development. Each new game was always pushing boundaries of the technology. An excuse to buy a new Voodoo 3D card. Thanks for putting in all this effort!
@GameIntrosFinales
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! :) Yeah, now that you mention the Voodoo cards: I was tech crazy in the 90s and wanted to play Unreal in 1024*768 (1998), which was only possible with two Voodoo2 cards in SLI mode... so I bought two Diamond Monster 3D cards and spent way too much money: a few month later Voodoo3 was released, which had a better performance than two Voodoo2 cards combined.
WOOOOWWW, great video. I loved this saga, specially the first and forth ones. I remember having to add more RAM to be able to play the first one. Buff... I will never forget this game, I think that is one of the games that impressed me more in my gaming begginings....
Amazing video of an amazing series. The first Comanche and Comanche 3/Gold are my favorites for sure. I miss the games from 90s a lot.
Played all of them... comanche 3 still my favorite, by far😃
Unfortunately, my dad passed away on July-21. We used to play so much Comanche 3 and Armored Fist together. Today I am an airline aircraft pilot with nearly 3k hours (he saw that, amen) and I suppose this game influenced this. Wish I could send him this video; he would hate the newest game, as I did haha Thanks for this!
@GameIntrosFinales
2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss. I can empathize with that very well, because my dad passed away in September last year. It's still very painful because we were very close. But you can't change it. It's great that you were able to share your passion for flying via Comanche! All the best! 🙏
Nice uploaded brother watching here
Came from Steam tonight after seeing your review there & running through a few old emulators & original psx games from the strike series etc. Thanks for making this brother , as an old skool gamer I love watching these evolution vids. Subscriber gained....now time to get to da chopper 🤘😉🔥 🇦🇺cheers mate.
@GameIntrosFinales
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support!
@GUARDIANA01
2 жыл бұрын
@@GameIntrosFinales Most welcome 🤘
I remember playing this for the first time in '92 and being blown away. It was so far ahead of the likes of LHX, etc.
I really enjoyed Commanche 3 when I was a kid. I loved the old Voxelspace engines! They still look pretty nice to me.
I remember that the "death-music" that plays in most of the Comanche Gold Missions after you got shot down scared the shit out of me back then as a child. 😣
I notice that as the graphics improve it gets worse in terms of simulation and strategy, however Comanche 3 is my absolute favorite❤
Nice video, good job!
@GameIntrosFinales
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Arnie cameo 11:51 Love the subtle humor sprinkled here and there. Shy helicopters! 😁
@GameIntrosFinales
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
ty for sharing.
Comanche 3 and 4 were the Shit, then all the Future stuff got weird. I'm going back to check out the Old Spec Ops game and Delta Force games 😉
Grew up playing Comanche 3, loved everything about it, so my choice is biased, haha! I remember I saw Comanche 4 for sale in a store, back in the day. Quite expensive, no one wanted to buy it. I wanted to, but didn't have the money. Only when I already had Steam was when I finally bought it for a few bucks. I thought it was rather short, shorter than Comanche 3. Maybe it was just because of the pace, which was faster...but I liked it nonetheless. Thanks for the vid, mate. 👍
@GameIntrosFinales
Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah, Comanche 3, good old times. A remaster would be nice.
@Roddy_Zeh
Жыл бұрын
@@GameIntrosFinales Indeed! Imagine the similar objective/mission/campaign dynamics with modern graphics and increased realism. But still maintaining a proper balance between a simulator and an arcade, not too complicated/complex but neither too simple/easy. Definitely would love that!
I remember the old Voxel Comanche games on DOS, had some of them and enjoyed them! Also Armored Fist (HEAT LOADED, TARGET ACQUIRED, APACHE CONTACT!)) Comanche Gold seems best for me. Just downloaded it and will give a try.
I remember playing the demo of Comanche 3 in 1997 via a share ware Rondo disc, and I saw the DVD case with the Comanche 3 logo, so I begged my parents to buy it for my birthday. I got it for Christmas 1998, and I played the hell out of it, before getting Jane's F-15 and Jane's Longbow 2 in 1999. Comanche 3 and Comanche Gold had a steep learning curve, but once you could master those, you were all set.
Graphics got better but gameplay definitely peaked with 3/Gold. The good old days!
Comanche 3 / Comanche Gold was a game driven by inspiration for the real thing, sadly that dedication towards mission details and flight realism got badly toned down with Comanche 4 to attract a bigger arcade audience. The 2021 game has somehow "broken flight controls" (?) , I just couldn't get it to work with my Microsoft Sidewinder 2 joystick and left dissapointed. It's probably not meant to be played with a joystick anyway but I refuse to use keyboard and mouse, what a disgrace. If only Comanche Gold could be brought back but the original programmers from novalogic are probably already dead, bummer!
Помню как в третью команчу гонял, реально крутая игруха была!
This game was my introduction to the world of flight sims.
Played a lot of Comanche 3 when I was a kid. Really good game!
Thanks for the video, it explained a lot. For me, the series lost it's appeal when they moved away from the voxels, but I can see why they did it. I would say though that while technically you could play Commanche on a 386....... you would not want to :D
The Comanche 2021 sounds like an UH-1 :)
Oh wow i remember playing the old helicopter game
@GameIntrosFinales
2 жыл бұрын
Which one of these?
@renamon5658
2 жыл бұрын
@@GameIntrosFinales i believe the second one
@GameIntrosFinales
2 жыл бұрын
And did you enjoy it?
@renamon5658
2 жыл бұрын
@@GameIntrosFinales yep i love flying games
omg! i've played all of comanche :) and i had a great time :)
COMANCHE 4 É O MELHOR ATÉ HOJE....
Comanche 3/Gold will forever have the most banger soundtrack put to disc
A lot of these "Evolution" videos are low effort clickbait, but yours have some real work and passion put into them.
@GameIntrosFinales
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Kyle Freeman details the SNES version, in issue 254 of Retrogamer Magazine. Points out even with the SFX Chip, the SNES version looked far too block, maps were cut down in size, these factors, combined with the high price of the SFX chip, killed the project. He also states experimental work with the Sega Mega Drive was carried out, but it produced no tangible results.
I played C3, great game for the time.
commanche 3 looks stunningly beautiful
NovaLogic deserve more exposure for their rendering tech. Their graphics looked better than anything id Software had out at the time.
Along with few other DOS-games, Comanche: Maximum Overkill made my childhood. Comanche 4 was also insanely good game.
I have all of them, in boxed form. Aside 2021. I would say Comanche Gold played the best. Comanche, even in the days, once the graphic novelty weared off, was a bit shallow on the gameplay side.
That friggin potus escort mission has so hard
um classico !!!!!! the classic !
Man I loved this game growing up. 2021 "version" is..... eh.. different.
Grew up playing Gold, then Four. Odd direction to take 2021 in but i think i'll still give it a shot.
Comanche for the SNES, although it was never released, deserves an honorable mention. It had incredible 3d graphics for the SNES and was reported to be very playable. There are a few videos of the gameplay demo from E3 1995, here on KZread.
I loved comanche gold as a kid. I really wish someone had the spare time, knowhow and desire to remaster it for modern systems. I didn't know they were still making them as of 2021 though, I figured the series died when the military canned the Comanche project.
I had the 1992 comanche game, so good
3/Gold was the best of the series, 4 felt like a step backwards in most ways, never played the 2021 version (or even knew it existed tbh but it looks a bit daft... still might be fun...
COmanche 3 really felt like you were controlling a highly advanced badass military equipment
2001
Comanche Gold has the best soundtrack, I use listen to the music when I’m bored
I still enjoy playing commanche4
My fav is comanche 3...i had a lot of fun.
Had to boot from the dosk into extended 386mode or whatever. Awesome game.. cant figure out how to play it these days.
They made a commanche in 2021!? god damn it i'm gone play it ! The 2001 version is the first vidéo game i ever play i can't let this pass
Once Upona Time , I upgraded my 386 DX40 sound card and 2 megabyte rams.
15:23 is there viseo tutorial about using of this mission editor?
Comanche 4 - 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Comanche 4 is the peak
What about EECH, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum? from around 2006. It also had mods to keep it more up to date.
1:53 Pet peeve of mine, the plural of aircraft is aircraft. Comanche 3 Gold was the highlight of the series, it was downhill from there.
One of the last snes games in development was super fx2 Comanche gold
7:26 I played the PHUCK outta the Demo version of this mission.....Lost count how many times I pegged that flagpole with the blades at mission start.
commanche 3 / 3 gold are the best). Funny is my first PC was purchased in 1999 but I never see commanche 3 gold before 2020. So I played dos version under win 98 for long time, still it was amazing.
I grew up playing Comanche Gold and Comanche 4. Gold still qorks on my gaming pc, but C4 runs absurdly too fast so I can't play it properly. Though I enjoy Gold for nostalgic reasons. Comanche 4 for the FPS style gameplay
It's amazing how, despite the more "advanced" graphical features, Commanche 4 ultimately looks less realistic than it's predecessor.
4 is my childhood
just remembered i quite curious when remembered back in early 2000 commache 4 is used for bench mark currently played commanche in ARMA 3 after i kinda missed my italery model kit commanche given to me back in 2004 by a dude, now i dunno where it go
любимая игра про вертолеты
Was the new comanche alsonmade my novalogic?
Im not Really a gamer because of camanche3,i became an absolute addict, had to quit for my health and sanity,never forget it though 😊
Commanche 3 so far is the best
7:31 can anyone tell me the name of the music ? Is it from Comanche 3 ?
Commanche 3 was the best in series.
I wonder if this game inspired Ace Combat, they have a similar arcadey feel.
i wonder how they did the water reflections at comanche 4
Commanche Gold is the top of the series. After that, it goes simply down.
sh*t I´m old :D 1992 we miss you!
now we want delta force in unreal engine
too bad for Comanche series in 1996 the Janes Longbow series started. The 1997 Longbow 2 was so far ahead of Comanche series that it was the end...
Comanche 3 was the best
we liked voxel !!! so the 3 !
Comanche GOLD. :D , ..
I prefer Comanche 4, Gold and 3, in my opinion they are the best, this new comanche 2021 I just didn't like it very much because they added a lot of science fiction, putting new comanches that never existed and fictional drones, if it weren't for the addition of fiction it would be also an excellent game and would not lose its essence.