The Europeans Closely Guarded Horse Technology w/S.C. Gwynne | Joe Rogan

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  • @mathewkelly9968
    @mathewkelly99684 жыл бұрын

    100 years ago only the rich had cars and the poor rode horses , now everyone has a car and only the rich can afford to keep a horse ...... How the stables have changed

  • @jeffreyharris3644

    @jeffreyharris3644

    4 жыл бұрын

    How the turn stables

  • @LiberRaider

    @LiberRaider

    4 жыл бұрын

    Poor people walked bro they never had horses lol

  • @cwdrock

    @cwdrock

    4 жыл бұрын

    And lobster was considered to be a food for the lower classes.

  • @regalsurvivor3418

    @regalsurvivor3418

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lol well played sir

  • @a.ortega4505

    @a.ortega4505

    4 жыл бұрын

    Horses r just awesome

  • @zefos9116
    @zefos91164 жыл бұрын

    "not exactly graceful people" "short" "bow legged" Sounds in keeping with huns and mongols so exactly what you would expect makes a culture of great riders

  • @deathinthedark5451

    @deathinthedark5451

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Marten Dekker he’s saying that’s how they looked before they had horses

  • @franciscafazzo3460

    @franciscafazzo3460

    3 жыл бұрын

    they were huns and mongols thats the secret

  • @karebushmarebu233

    @karebushmarebu233

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Marten Dekker that literally makes no sense

  • @RogueReplicant

    @RogueReplicant

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it seems that they evolved a perfect physique for riding. Almost as if they were designed with the knowledge that horses would show up to complement them.

  • @karebushmarebu233

    @karebushmarebu233

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@RogueReplicant Did Ye, aye?

  • @darrellmilne6877
    @darrellmilne6877 Жыл бұрын

    One of the most memorable lines from Lonesome Dove was when someone said there were 10000 Comanche braves was something like” if there were that many Comanche they would ob been ripping up the streets of Washington DC and no one could stop them”

  • @DonArques
    @DonArques4 жыл бұрын

    By horse technology they mean how to make stirrups, saddles and other horse-related equipment. And also the techniques for how to break in a horse and train them for riding.

  • @pat442389

    @pat442389

    3 жыл бұрын

    So are they saying natives wouldn’t go into battle riding on horses pre Cortez or whenever the Europeans re-Introduced them to the americas? I totally understand the tech of breaking a horse in but why would a saddle be so valuable? I’m a dumb city kid that’s never caught a fish, fired a gun, rode a horse or gone camping so bare with me please.

  • @DonArques

    @DonArques

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pat442389 I used to ride horses alot when I was younger and I've done it a few times without a saddle and it's a very different experience. It is definately possible to ride without it but it's much harder to remain seated on the horse without falling off (especially if you're in battle I would assume). It's also harder to steer the horse. Doing battle without the proper equipment on the horse would just be very ineffective and it would probably be a waste of healthy horses which would have been very valueable. Even the Vikings who had such equipment for their horses would rarely use their horses in combat because they didnt want their very valuable animals to die in combat. This is why Knights even made plate armor for their warhorses in the medieval age. People throughout history put alot of effort in to making horses as effective as possible for warfare.

  • @pat442389

    @pat442389

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DonArques Yeah i get that but i was thinking people of that age would be more used to "roughing it" and dealing with the pain that riding a horse without a saddle would bring because they knew nothing else. Like i cant miss air conditioning if ive never seen it or be inside a room with it. do you know what i mean? i wish this guy went into more detail.... maybe he does in the full episode. Im sure the european horses would have been trained better for war though. but the namidian / nubian horse archers of northern africa were incredible more than 1,000 years before this ( i realize they never came into contact with native americans). i guess im just surprised that the natives werent already experts with their horses. thanks for the answer though. im sure a saddle makes it much more sturdy, lets you ride for longer distances and helps you stay on the horse during battles.

  • @DonArques

    @DonArques

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@pat442389 Sure you can "rough it", but no matter how good you are at riding you are still at a massive disadvantage compared to someone who has the right equipment. You cant compare it to not being used to having airconditioning. You can probably ride a bike without using your hands too, but making turns is going to be harder and it's also going to be more work for your legs. Remember that the Native Americans first saw horses in the 15th century when they were brought over by the Spanish - they only had a few generations to learn how to use horses, and despite that very short time they did it anyway. The Spanish saw this rapid progression and didnt want the Natives to get their hands on their "horse technology". It's comparable to WW2 in a way; the Germans had the best tanks in the early war but the soviets drew inspiration and technology from the panther tanks of the germans and developed the T-34 tank. After that they had evened the odds and could fight the Germans most powerful tanks. Horses evolved in america yes, but they went extinct by a combination of climate change and overhunting by ice-age humans. Some horses managed to migrate over the landbridge into Asia - where they have spread all over the place and eventually were domesticated by humans - it was those horses that the spanish "brought back" to america in the 15th century.

  • @stillinfamous

    @stillinfamous

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DonArques I use to ride bare back, from my experience your relying on the horse to do the steering and speed adjustment. Mind you I only ever rode with one horse, and had a great relationship with him.

  • @iannordin5250
    @iannordin52504 жыл бұрын

    *slaps horses ass "This baby can take an LS"

  • @smallerfreeze

    @smallerfreeze

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joe Schmoe honestly the real question is what cant? I recently LS swapped by bros original brain which was slugged by downsyndrome

  • @iannordin5250

    @iannordin5250

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@smallerfreeze damn man that's some good techin' right there. Hows his mileage?

  • @LarsUllits
    @LarsUllits4 жыл бұрын

    Elizabeth Warren: I was the first native american to tame a horse.

  • @redwhiteblue5041

    @redwhiteblue5041

    3 жыл бұрын

    😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

  • @charlesschindler9109

    @charlesschindler9109

    3 жыл бұрын

    That what her grandmother told her.

  • @STELLASCUTENESS

    @STELLASCUTENESS

    3 жыл бұрын

    Freaking OUTSTANDING comment!!!!!

  • @alwaysplay13

    @alwaysplay13

    3 жыл бұрын

    Im still waiting for trump to pay that mil to charity... he blew her just mentioning she had native american in her blood as a throw away up and said if she proved it with dna hed pay a mil to charity, she proved it and he just ignored it lmao

  • @STELLASCUTENESS

    @STELLASCUTENESS

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@alwaysplay13 How funny is that?!!!!She proved she’s 1/1034th Native American.....less than the typical American. Yet, she still got a position at Harvard based on her “minority” status. How that insane, ignorant, hateful woman hasn’t been run out of the country on a rail is beyond me. She’s the WORST kind of person I can imagine.

  • @alexl.4362
    @alexl.43624 жыл бұрын

    Joe should bring a Spartan historian now.

  • @alexl.4362

    @alexl.4362

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Dale Doback Yes.

  • @djimmy92

    @djimmy92

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Dale Doback It is a myth.They went down there and found only adult man skeletons probably criminals.

  • @AD-df5tm

    @AD-df5tm

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good god no lol. It would just be 2 hours of joe spouting common nonsense about Sparta and the expert correcting him lol.

  • @labroskakionis674

    @labroskakionis674

    4 жыл бұрын

    That would be Paul Cartledge.

  • @tonygreene81able

    @tonygreene81able

    4 жыл бұрын

    Horses in most conditions are superior it depends on the weather and the terrain

  • @bettythomas8660
    @bettythomas86604 жыл бұрын

    I could listen to this guy all day! ........I love his knowledge & frankness.

  • @Etatdesiege1979

    @Etatdesiege1979

    4 ай бұрын

    Lol. He compared Spartans with Comanches. No serious historian would ever do that. He says that the Spaniards didn’t want the technology to get out to the native tribes of Mexico. 😂😂😂 come on now. It’s just bivouac he know squad about Mexican topography.

  • @apallok54
    @apallok544 жыл бұрын

    Horses conquered this world. They are the real heros. Without them mankind is changed forever

  • @mikehermis4940

    @mikehermis4940

    4 жыл бұрын

    the unsung heroes of history

  • @itsjustmeweiss

    @itsjustmeweiss

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think the f14 tomcat would disagree

  • @SVSky

    @SVSky

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Fady Al Qaisy And the Mongols.

  • @RipVanWhinkle

    @RipVanWhinkle

    4 жыл бұрын

    @john son both had great horses, Mongols just had more.... A lot more. Excellent horse archers

  • @RipVanWhinkle

    @RipVanWhinkle

    4 жыл бұрын

    @john son well if youre able to fight that many civilizations, spanning vast distances. you definitely have a lot of horses.

  • @SkywalkerExpress
    @SkywalkerExpress4 жыл бұрын

    other tribes : we dance and make arts the Comanches : we go Mongols on you

  • @z_sloathe5672
    @z_sloathe56724 жыл бұрын

    The book by Dan Flores, "American Serengeti", is an absolutely awesome read.

  • @outlaw-7624
    @outlaw-76244 жыл бұрын

    Joe “Did you know Comanches smoked DMT” Rogan

  • @asscrap195

    @asscrap195

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jackson Q maybe he just like drugs? 🤷‍♀️😅

  • @Browneyedbakedpotato

    @Browneyedbakedpotato

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Jackson Q I’m not trying to start an argument or sound like an ass, but how is that sad?

  • @JohnSmith-il7jn
    @JohnSmith-il7jn4 жыл бұрын

    It's very simple how the Indians adopted horse technology, they would capture Spanish and Mexican youngsters in Texas and Mexico who would teach them about European technologies like horsemanship and guns. Many early American settlers were startled to find many Commanches and other tribes were very fluent in Spanish. They were Mexican and Spanish kids adopted by the tribe. Look up the story of Quanah Parker.

  • @cptercio

    @cptercio

    4 жыл бұрын

    this guy talks about Quanah parker later in the podcast, he wrote a book about him, that's why he is there.

  • @jorgehdz2030

    @jorgehdz2030

    4 жыл бұрын

    Adopted? They where kidnapped. The Comanches and Apaches always did raids and attacks against northen Mexicans settlers mostly white immigrants Europeans (northen Mexico was forbidden to indigenous mexicans and non Catholic citizens).

  • @CourtesyPhone

    @CourtesyPhone

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jorgehdz2030 remember non whites people can't do bad things

  • @diaryofanaxeman539

    @diaryofanaxeman539

    2 жыл бұрын

    Look up Hees Hoos Sanchees, he was a Mexican captive raised as a Comanche and noted Warrior. His picture is at the the Smithsonian in Washington DC, it was painted by George Catlin in the 1830's

  • @stevefaulkner6689

    @stevefaulkner6689

    2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely is truth most don't think about

  • @georgegeorgepht
    @georgegeorgepht4 жыл бұрын

    I learned more interesting facts from joes podcast then I did in community college. The Internet sure changed how much information we consume.

  • @lamolambda8349

    @lamolambda8349

    4 жыл бұрын

    I mean you went to Community College what did you expect.

  • @tonyq534

    @tonyq534

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lamolambda8349 Were you born a dickhead or did you have to work at it?

  • @redpillamerican4361

    @redpillamerican4361

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lamolambda8349 It's the same shit but way cheaper for half of a 4 year degree. It's the smart move.

  • @eidorianeagle5806

    @eidorianeagle5806

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well yeah you are supposed to learn about your field not fucking horses

  • @kthevsamig4958

    @kthevsamig4958

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@redpillamerican4361 sure… LMAO😂

  • @brewcity44panthers60
    @brewcity44panthers604 жыл бұрын

    From what I have read about the Comanche they seemed more analogous to the Mongolian horseman than to Spartans. The Spartans weren't nomadic and had slaves that tended farms for them. The Comanche and Mongolians were both nomadic, both expert horse riders, and both by all accounts excelled beyond belief with their bows.

  • @jonboy9734

    @jonboy9734

    4 жыл бұрын

    BrewCity44 Panthers Comanche had slaves as well, they just didn’t know how to farm.

  • @brewcity44panthers60

    @brewcity44panthers60

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jonboy9734, didn't know that. But I brought up the slaves part only because the Spartans only trained in their land warfare skills, but needed to eat, so they left the farming to slaves. My point was that the Spartans were not a nomadic people.

  • @davidwarren719

    @davidwarren719

    4 жыл бұрын

    He was comparing their cultures, not their lifestyles...

  • @tflowe3288

    @tflowe3288

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jonboy9734 the Comanche actually did use their land later to cropshare because they didn't want to farm but had the land. Even after the nomadic times

  • @tsolmoncolo2654

    @tsolmoncolo2654

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jonboy9734 In nomadic culture slaves were like servant had more "right" Its hard to keep slaves when you constantly moving

  • @humanbeing2009
    @humanbeing20094 жыл бұрын

    It wasn't until the Pueblo Revolt (Pope's Rebellion) of 1680 near Santa Fe that the horse came into significant use and influence among the Plains Indians changing their way of life for ever. It would be fascinating to learn how the Comanche became such skilled horseman.

  • @sammead7911

    @sammead7911

    Жыл бұрын

    Right it’s striking to realize how quick that period of time was.

  • @jopo7996
    @jopo79964 жыл бұрын

    Horses? I thought the Comanches used jeeps.

  • @TexasGreed

    @TexasGreed

    4 жыл бұрын

    They used attack helicopters ya dingus.

  • @PCurtGaming

    @PCurtGaming

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @christinadiaz8097

    @christinadiaz8097

    4 жыл бұрын

    No the Blackhawks were first to use helicopters duhh

  • @actionjackson2721

    @actionjackson2721

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ahh yes the majestic Jeep grand cherokees

  • @Aztllan

    @Aztllan

    4 жыл бұрын

    They used mustangs

  • @rhabdob3895
    @rhabdob38954 жыл бұрын

    The Iroquois ate more horses than they rode. I read that somewhere long ago and thought it was so cool that I always remembered it.

  • @lamolambda8349

    @lamolambda8349

    4 жыл бұрын

    So do the french nowadays or people who eat at IKEA.

  • @d4n4nable

    @d4n4nable

    4 жыл бұрын

    Probably true for the Mongols too.

  • @LinusWatches

    @LinusWatches

    4 жыл бұрын

    lamo lambda wtf are u gamling about IKEA serves good food

  • @lamolambda8349

    @lamolambda8349

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@LinusWatches don't you remeber when it was discovered there was horse meat in the meat balls

  • @LinusWatches

    @LinusWatches

    4 жыл бұрын

    lamo lambda I dont

  • @emils7054
    @emils70544 жыл бұрын

    He does have a ton of buddies! Imagine trying to keep track of the tens of thousands of interesting people he has befriended and interacted with!

  • @nomadichippie1930
    @nomadichippie19304 жыл бұрын

    Another native group people should look up is the chichimeca natives, the word closes means savage but it as widely recognized that these people were related to the Aztec, these people came from the cities that the mexica created as the travelled south to central Mexico. When they were some of the first natives to use horse against Spanish, fought a war for almost 40 years against them and their natives allies.

  • @zacktube100
    @zacktube1004 жыл бұрын

    I had the privilege of learning about the Navajos when I worked in New Mexico for a while. But, I don't remember them talking about horses except as a source of food.

  • @9an13l
    @9an13l4 жыл бұрын

    We can finally ride them! we got the horse-technology

  • @lastAOLuser
    @lastAOLuser4 жыл бұрын

    I once rode a pony at the fair.

  • @richie8811

    @richie8811

    4 жыл бұрын

    Good story bro

  • @Rathbone_fan_account

    @Rathbone_fan_account

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ok, actually caught me off guard, sounds like some stand-up shit.

  • @tonyq534

    @tonyq534

    3 жыл бұрын

    Save a pony, ride a cowboy

  • @murtyrabbit2964
    @murtyrabbit29644 жыл бұрын

    Keep these videos coming , they're great

  • @cialanomahony7870
    @cialanomahony78704 жыл бұрын

    Everyone strives to be a comedian in the comments

  • @Marc757

    @Marc757

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's getting old. I always scroll to maybe see a conversation. Nope.

  • @harmondraws

    @harmondraws

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah its actually draining to read the comments and see a Joe" " Rogan meme every other comment. And then you find an actually positive comment and a troll turns it into a comment war

  • @juliusmorgan2292

    @juliusmorgan2292

    4 жыл бұрын

    The joe rogan effect

  • @shadowfall2011

    @shadowfall2011

    4 жыл бұрын

    LOL I'm dead 💀😂

  • @idontwantahandlewtf

    @idontwantahandlewtf

    4 жыл бұрын

    Your mom strives to be a comedian

  • @LiberRaider
    @LiberRaider4 жыл бұрын

    Important to remember that horses were tools of military dominance in the Old World. To keep a horse in Europe, where all land was owned and parceled was prohibitively expensive and thus was a tool and symbol of the aristocracy. Some common Europeans could afford a mule or an ass but not a horse you would ride in battle.

  • @NLJeffEU
    @NLJeffEU4 жыл бұрын

    Imagine having a horse vs having a donkey or lama 😂 horses are op

  • @txman276

    @txman276

    4 жыл бұрын

    depends. Comanches would steal mules first before they would touch horses.

  • @letsdebate839

    @letsdebate839

    4 жыл бұрын

    NLJeff EU nothing kicks like a donkey

  • @NLJeffEU

    @NLJeffEU

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@letsdebate839 kicking is useless and nothing as fast as a horse.

  • @VincentGonzalezVeg

    @VincentGonzalezVeg

    4 жыл бұрын

    when you need a wrench 100 hammers wont work

  • @paulinocontreras1245

    @paulinocontreras1245

    4 жыл бұрын

    NLJeff EU yeah until you need to trek up a mountain in the Andes let’s see what you’d rather have then.

  • @garysmith9823
    @garysmith98233 жыл бұрын

    The best analogy I've heard is that the Comanches had more in common with a biker gang than a culture by the time they met Europeans. '

  • @arcitejack
    @arcitejack4 жыл бұрын

    The professor to have on the podcast concerning the Comanche is Lindsay Montgomery. This guy is great too though.

  • @1845Raven
    @1845Raven4 жыл бұрын

    “The Comanche were a bow legged, short, unimpressive people compared to other tribes.” So they became a horse people because it was their only chance to have power.

  • @Jonathan-Pilkington

    @Jonathan-Pilkington

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol...

  • @Swarm509

    @Swarm509

    4 жыл бұрын

    This probably is true. When at war and pressured people will do whatever they need to survive. They saw this resource, understood the power of it, and as a people strove to control it to great effect.

  • @juliusmorgan2292

    @juliusmorgan2292

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Navajo drove them toward Texas but ended up being intermittently raided by them after they got horses.

  • @nabiji

    @nabiji

    4 жыл бұрын

    This 'historian' is so full of shit. Like his 'angelic' reference about the Sioux.

  • @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506

    @konradvonschnitzeldorf6506

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@nabiji yeah, he seems pseudo lol

  • @vilebasterd5729
    @vilebasterd57292 жыл бұрын

    The commanches sound like they had the perfect horse jockey physique.

  • @a.i.chemist2261
    @a.i.chemist22614 жыл бұрын

    I'm an Indian outlaw. Half Cherokee and Choctaw. My momma, she's a Chippewa, Her Crab Dip's one of a kind.

  • @jms6605

    @jms6605

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jared Zufelt Cherokee people, Cherokee tribe.

  • @outbreak49
    @outbreak494 жыл бұрын

    My Corolla from the 90's is old horse technology

  • @hovojefe

    @hovojefe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dude my corolla from 2010 is old horse technology. You can probably track yours right back to the comanchee horse breeders

  • @chidoman1595
    @chidoman15954 жыл бұрын

    The first native American to jump on a horse must've been a madman

  • @craigaustin4779
    @craigaustin47794 жыл бұрын

    Best man made products, the dog and the horse. They change everything.

  • @hexkwondo
    @hexkwondo3 жыл бұрын

    I always learn so much from watching this podcast

  • @myyname7606
    @myyname76064 жыл бұрын

    I am surprised that Joe Rogan doesn't own couple of horses.

  • @ogc9649

    @ogc9649

    4 жыл бұрын

    My family had horses. It sucks.

  • @wangchu9719

    @wangchu9719

    4 жыл бұрын

    Myy Name kzread.info/dash/bejne/qpqYq8mSisbgg84.html

  • @placeholdername3206

    @placeholdername3206

    4 жыл бұрын

    Unless you just pay to have a horse in some stable and someone else takes care of it while you come by every once in a while and give it a carrot and pat it while you pretend the horse gives two shits about you, owning horses and taking care of them is a huge amount of work. I've had girlfriends with them, they are beautiful animals but at the same time they scare the shit out of me.

  • @johnobrien4766

    @johnobrien4766

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bet he's had one...with a side of jalapenos.

  • @transporterIII
    @transporterIII4 жыл бұрын

    Eurasians had a 10,000 year head start on horse domestication

  • @Master...deBater

    @Master...deBater

    4 жыл бұрын

    10,000yrs ago there were horses in the Americas...but the only thing the natives could think of doing with them was to eat them!!!

  • @kevinclass2010

    @kevinclass2010

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Turks, Mongols, Persians, Parthians, and Hungarians all originated from the Central Asian plains.

  • @j.s.t.6515

    @j.s.t.6515

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Master...deBater Not the only thing...wait what?

  • @d4n4nable

    @d4n4nable

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@kevinclass2010 Modern Hungarians are only in small parts descendents of the Uralic Magyars. Most of their ancestors are the conquered people who lived there all along.

  • @Master...deBater

    @Master...deBater

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@j.s.t.6515: Hey now...let's keep it clean!!!

  • @TheGM-20XX
    @TheGM-20XX4 жыл бұрын

    See this baby right here....that's right 1 horse power!

  • @RyanBlundell
    @RyanBlundell3 жыл бұрын

    2:34 Damn it feels good to be a gangster

  • @elmasloco822
    @elmasloco8223 жыл бұрын

    I can't find the full podcast on KZread or Spotify

  • @kultkrimes8648
    @kultkrimes86484 жыл бұрын

    Either I'm way too high, or this is the best video title I've ever seen

  • @TonyAguirreJazz
    @TonyAguirreJazz4 жыл бұрын

    bought the book! awesome!!

  • @brucewilson1958
    @brucewilson19582 жыл бұрын

    It would have only taken one ' horse whisper' to start a major movement. One man with courage, discipline, and teaching skills who could have broken horses, learned to ride well, and then taught thee skills to others. Often, n history, one man, or a small group, redirects evolution. Still true today.

  • @Victorkapz
    @Victorkapz4 жыл бұрын

    I’m surprised Joe didn’t ask about Comanche and DMT usage..

  • @kingvegeta51

    @kingvegeta51

    4 жыл бұрын

    They had peyote

  • @jackstraw262

    @jackstraw262

    4 жыл бұрын

    They definitely had cane toads

  • @Dreekuz
    @Dreekuz4 жыл бұрын

    Who else thought about The Revenant intro

  • @joesilvasr9733
    @joesilvasr97334 жыл бұрын

    WOW! VERY interesting stuff. Thanks!

  • @feebeci
    @feebeci4 жыл бұрын

    Wow I genuinely learnt about horses today

  • @ottoweininger8156
    @ottoweininger81564 жыл бұрын

    This is like playing Civilisation. I always forget to do the horse riding technology and end up doing it in the Renaissance or something, alongside muskets.

  • @SuperYoshikong

    @SuperYoshikong

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good trade imo. Guns > horse

  • @davidriddell5294

    @davidriddell5294

    2 жыл бұрын

    But, if you get the horse techs super fast/quick a Civ can just run over another before they even get started...

  • @Acrocanthosaurus
    @Acrocanthosaurus4 жыл бұрын

    Eohippus: Dawn Horse

  • @TheNaturalust
    @TheNaturalust6 ай бұрын

    We Blackfoot were a warring culture too. We harried many other tribes both because we could and because the last great herds of bison (not Buffalo Joe, no Buffalo in the Americas, only Africa and Indonesia, although I would argue the steppe Bison were actually a type of Buffalo, not really a bison) congregated in our territory in Montana and Alberta Canada. We became a bison culture and to protect it and hoard it, became a very warring nation. Other tribes feared us and rightly so, they were all afraid at some level to come to our lands and try to harvest Bison for themselves!

  • @Mis-AdventureCH
    @Mis-AdventureCH3 жыл бұрын

    Spartans of the Plains. Interesting take. Spot on.

  • @user-wo3ki4ej1b
    @user-wo3ki4ej1b4 жыл бұрын

    I bet kids today are dumbfounded when they see technology & horses in the same sentence...

  • @therealone4113

    @therealone4113

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alex Torvi u am how did you know you old fuck?

  • @reddawn1487
    @reddawn14874 жыл бұрын

    This guys microphone in his nose

  • @wowifjdjwocn

    @wowifjdjwocn

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hahahah

  • @johneric3886
    @johneric38864 жыл бұрын

    Good interview Joe.

  • @gonzolonzo1383
    @gonzolonzo13833 жыл бұрын

    Horse technology sounds like horse armor 2.0

  • @llokkee
    @llokkee4 жыл бұрын

    What people need to realise is that the native Americans/first nation people were literally living in the stone age by the time Europeans arrived. Think about that. All of the history based around the development of technology that defined the growth and eventual dominance of Europeans completely passed the native Americans by. No guns or gunpowder, no swords, no shields, no armour, no battle formations, no sturctured military, no ships, no compasses, no 'horse technology' (first time hearing it put like that but it'll suffice) no astronomy, no written word, not even the wheel... What they had was a magnificent culture, far beyond any Europeans as far as spirituality goes, and is one that I admire but in essence, all they had were wall paintings and stories passed down by their elders. The poor bastards never stood a chance. .

  • @nicknanez1784

    @nicknanez1784

    4 жыл бұрын

    You should read 1491 by Charles C Mann

  • @Mattiac1980

    @Mattiac1980

    4 жыл бұрын

    Wrong! They used astronomy: twitter.com/brettachapman/status/1102253051337998337

  • @tonedowne

    @tonedowne

    4 жыл бұрын

    In reality there wasn’t that much of a disparity. The Spanish had a hard time fighting the natives, and some people say that it was only the germs that brought them out on top.

  • @llokkee

    @llokkee

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Mattiac1980 Good one mate, u learn something new every day ;-) Thanks for the info

  • @jamesclapp6832

    @jamesclapp6832

    2 жыл бұрын

    They also had no resistance to European diseases such as small pox.

  • @jacobhay6865
    @jacobhay68654 жыл бұрын

    Joe should interview Mr Horse from the Ren & Stimpy show on the next episode

  • @aaronward3882

    @aaronward3882

    4 жыл бұрын

    No sir, I don't like it!

  • @rohanofelvenpower5566
    @rohanofelvenpower55663 жыл бұрын

    The C'manshees learned how to tame their dragons ;)

  • @jaqs125
    @jaqs1254 жыл бұрын

    Horses arrive to north america with spanish soldiers named Dragrones de Cuera, these soldier had comercial relations with some indians and taugth them how to handle and take care of horses, when soldiers die in combat or some Horses scape, the reproduced and that was the new breed named mesteño/mustang, originaly andaludians horses. First time an Apache saw a Pale Face was a spanish. For futher information read the book BANDERAS LEJANAS that contains all the maps, laws and documents of that era.

  • @watashitetsujin4993
    @watashitetsujin49934 жыл бұрын

    Just to be clear the Horse technology they are talking about is the training techniques that infused the rider and Horse into one unit making it almost invincible compared to the troops on foot and that's where they get 'The Centaur' from. Greeks, Spanish, English, Arabs they all had this technology until machines were invented, now it's all games and Equestrian sports.

  • @alexluke_again
    @alexluke_again4 жыл бұрын

    so yeah, I don't like some of joe rogan's rants and arguments, but he does read a lot and stays informed.

  • @Q_QQ_Q

    @Q_QQ_Q

    4 жыл бұрын

    script

  • @boomer420d

    @boomer420d

    4 жыл бұрын

    ҳҲ̸Ҳ̸ҳ you think he has writers?

  • @Q_QQ_Q

    @Q_QQ_Q

    4 жыл бұрын

    @boomer420d yes . every episode is scripted .

  • @nickprohoroff3720
    @nickprohoroff37204 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Just think, we never knew about this stuff until just now.

  • @alfredobecerra2878
    @alfredobecerra2878 Жыл бұрын

    The Spanish did recruited Native American tribesmen in their cavalry elite, "Soldado De Cuera", who showed loyalty to Spain, at the time. These are some of these Natives became excellent horsemen in Spanish-owned ranches. These "Soldados De Cuera" were effective in protecting towns, hacienda ranches, roads, and borders of tbe upper North American frontier from criminals, aggressive Native attacks, and foreign invaders.

  • @jamesmeegan4755
    @jamesmeegan47554 жыл бұрын

    Finally I’ve found the information I need at 6am and now I can sleep.

  • @rodofj1206
    @rodofj12064 жыл бұрын

    horses are dope.

  • @untundro
    @untundro4 жыл бұрын

    YALL TAKE EVERYBODY SWAGG

  • @fredjackson8408
    @fredjackson84084 жыл бұрын

    My guess is that someone somewhere told a Comanche chief about the history of the Golden Horde.

  • @sdsumiguel5937
    @sdsumiguel59374 жыл бұрын

    Joe: Did the horses do DMT?

  • @octaviof.g.7316
    @octaviof.g.73164 жыл бұрын

    europeans invented the horse by mixing brown sugar and pieces of wood.

  • @ydegnju5fvihvfryhbf730

    @ydegnju5fvihvfryhbf730

    4 жыл бұрын

    What?

  • @mikebrisebois
    @mikebrisebois3 жыл бұрын

    He’s a great story teller

  • @huggieboii
    @huggieboii3 жыл бұрын

    full podcast?

  • @videoswithsubscribers-xk5hb
    @videoswithsubscribers-xk5hb4 жыл бұрын

    Something tells me Joe might be descended from Comanche's

  • @CarlosPerez-ut5ze
    @CarlosPerez-ut5ze4 жыл бұрын

    Mexico "is" North America

  • @i-never-look-at-replies-lol

    @i-never-look-at-replies-lol

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mexico is Mexico

  • @CarlosPerez-ut5ze

    @CarlosPerez-ut5ze

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@i-never-look-at-replies-lol and its located on what continent?? yeah North America buddy

  • @alg3221

    @alg3221

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mexico is half and half, north and central.

  • @a1986MonteCarlo

    @a1986MonteCarlo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@CarlosPerez-ut5ze We're embarassed by that shithole 3rd world country so we dont claim them

  • @alg3221

    @alg3221

    4 жыл бұрын

    37 pirate The Tropic of cancer line is what divides north america from central america

  • @agochoa
    @agochoa4 жыл бұрын

    Mind officially fuckin blown. Now I gotta see a documentary on the Pueblo uprising. I demand knowledge NOW!!!

  • @0vermars520
    @0vermars5204 жыл бұрын

    Damn Bojack's ancestors were so important

  • @101wormwood
    @101wormwood4 жыл бұрын

    This guy darthing the mic

  • @defeatedpuppy9284
    @defeatedpuppy92844 жыл бұрын

    First horse back to the Americas: "kindly let me re-introduce myself, my name is Horse..

  • @jimluebke3869
    @jimluebke38693 жыл бұрын

    6000 horsemen was as big a cavalry force as any but the biggest ancient armies had.

  • @gunner4lyfe723
    @gunner4lyfe7234 жыл бұрын

    Native American: NOW THIS IS HORSE POWER!

  • @grosom31
    @grosom314 жыл бұрын

    Joe, Did Comanches ever use DMT?

  • @bryceanhk1428

    @bryceanhk1428

    4 жыл бұрын

    George Black they did peyote

  • @cristianfuentes2597

    @cristianfuentes2597

    4 жыл бұрын

    They probably had their own drugs

  • @ras573
    @ras5734 жыл бұрын

    The natural horse was originally much smaller. Too small to ride. But the Indo-Europeans were clever, and used chariots. After centuries of selective breeding, they got bigger and stronger... Horses are like bio-technology. :)

  • @samdegoeij6576
    @samdegoeij65763 жыл бұрын

    Horses were indeed re-introduced by the Spanish. But, as is said horses evolved into it's current form in the Americas as did the cameloids (camels, llamas, alpacas etc.) they came from Asia via Beringia and after evolving they migrated back to Asia or to South-America or both. Then they died out for unknown reasons in North-and Central-America. Interesting fact, the die of by many megafauna ( big mammals like mammoth) coincided with human arrival and climate change at the end of second last ice age 50.000 years ago. The last of that megafauna other then what's considered big now died of 12.800 til 11.800 years (see JRE with Graham Hancock).

  • @lallyoisin
    @lallyoisin4 жыл бұрын

    Because everything above ground perished!

  • @yearight7956
    @yearight79564 жыл бұрын

    They should teach history classes in school with JRE clips. I would’ve been a way better student

  • @s7robin105

    @s7robin105

    4 жыл бұрын

    The issue with that is not everything he says or talks about has anything to do with a topic or he’s inaccurate so the teacher would need to correct his mistakes constantly

  • @yearight7956

    @yearight7956

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was somewhat kidding. But I agree with your point. The issue is the textbooks we have in most history classes are filled with propaganda and not the actual truth. There are literally hundreds of examples of this, especially with US history.

  • @AD-df5tm

    @AD-df5tm

    4 жыл бұрын

    You wouldn't actually know anything about history if they did lol.

  • @justinallen2408

    @justinallen2408

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah like the statement the comanches were the best at riding horses as if knights who trained their whole lifes on horseback would obliterate them with the power of stirrups and lance or longsword, as well as not even mentioning the huns and mongols.

  • @gunkanjima3408
    @gunkanjima34084 жыл бұрын

    Joe is so high he's now talking about ancient Europeans' pet horses

  • @gunkanjima3408

    @gunkanjima3408

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Khabib cherrypicking Weight bully Ha I figured as much. I'm not complaining though, I do love strange high conversations

  • @leobowman8149

    @leobowman8149

    4 жыл бұрын

    They were not pets.

  • @reyhaze5044

    @reyhaze5044

    4 жыл бұрын

    He was absolutely fried in the recent clip about South Park

  • @MrGOTAMA420
    @MrGOTAMA4204 жыл бұрын

    the comanche were the real deal my maternal gr gr granfather was a tex ranger who fought the camanche.

  • @j.s.t.6515

    @j.s.t.6515

    4 жыл бұрын

    yeah i watched the movie were cHUCK nORRIS WAS your uncle too

  • @MrSimonw58
    @MrSimonw584 жыл бұрын

    Cloth, writing, finance and chemistry

  • @TomBinnz
    @TomBinnz4 жыл бұрын

    Of course we heavily guarded horse technology, it’s a huge military advantage. We classify military technology today for the same reason.

  • @ameljasarevic5194

    @ameljasarevic5194

    4 жыл бұрын

    We? "We" didnt do shit.

  • @7r3v0r

    @7r3v0r

    4 жыл бұрын

    If I was on an alien continent surrounded by a civilization that made theatre out of seperating people from their beating hearts I would not share the secrets of my get-away vehicle.

  • @AimeeB-pr5wj
    @AimeeB-pr5wj4 жыл бұрын

    The natives didn’t utilize the horse and they didn’t even create the wheel until they saw Europeans

  • @bernardi5919

    @bernardi5919

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aimee12345 B what would they use the wheel for without any draft animals and no horses until the europeans arrived

  • @BuRsTiNxMLB

    @BuRsTiNxMLB

    3 жыл бұрын

    What? The Mayans, Aztecs. Toltecs, Cuzcos, and Incas all had the wheel, what the fuck are you talking about?

  • @kbg4life07
    @kbg4life073 жыл бұрын

    I shall nameth thee Horsee Technology.

  • @caseymoore4759
    @caseymoore4759 Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: horses went extinct in North America 11,000 years ago……

  • @ThunderChunky101
    @ThunderChunky1014 жыл бұрын

    "and flourished here?" No... They died out mate... I mean...

  • @mothurman

    @mothurman

    4 жыл бұрын

    @John Mariano they evolved there? Are u on drugs?

  • @heathweeks1985

    @heathweeks1985

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@mothurman , en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_horse

  • @mothurman

    @mothurman

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@heathweeks1985 oh I thought he was talking about the native americans

  • @richardgiago1700

    @richardgiago1700

    4 жыл бұрын

    Plenty of evidence they didn’t go extinct and indeed they did flourish.

  • @healthymealthy775
    @healthymealthy7754 жыл бұрын

    "The Comanche Empire" which is an excellent book was written two years before S.C. Gwynne's book on them. I've noticed a trend where authors have a tendency to pick up on a trend and not give credit to those who started it. I definitely noticed that with Nassim Taleb; he's created a whole genre and many are copying him without giving due to where these ideas came from.

  • @bobsherman904

    @bobsherman904

    4 жыл бұрын

    Writing a book about a certain group of people is not a trend or being a copycat. It’s actually better to have a lot of perspectives in a field of study, especially history, to allow for alternate interpretations and peer review

  • @ct-gt2dt

    @ct-gt2dt

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bobsherman904 yeah people that don’t read as much as others maybe don’t realize that all these books usually have wildly different interpretations of the history presented

  • @jamwsmamasrer3002

    @jamwsmamasrer3002

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like someone needs to learn a lesson on how the world works

  • @healthymealthy775

    @healthymealthy775

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bobsherman904 pretty easy solution. Give credit to those who came before you. This used to be considered normal and necessary.

  • @bobsherman904

    @bobsherman904

    Жыл бұрын

    @@healthymealthy775 credit for what? He didn’t use any info from that other book, he wrote his own on the same topic. Even if that book inspired him to write his own, which may not even be true, the original doesn’t deserve any credit if this dudes book didn’t use anything from it. The first guy doesn’t own the topic of “Comanches”

  • @therespectedlex9794
    @therespectedlex97942 жыл бұрын

    There is Przewalski's (Mongolian wild) horse, which also went extinct, in the wild.

  • @Robert-bm5fz
    @Robert-bm5fz3 жыл бұрын

    How come I can't ever see joes current shows on spotify? All I get is a commercial loop.

  • @kennmullen6454
    @kennmullen64544 жыл бұрын

    Mexico is in North America...

  • @bluntslayer

    @bluntslayer

    4 жыл бұрын

    I laughed when he said that lol

  • @adamkonarski6218

    @adamkonarski6218

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well it is actually in North America

  • @pandajin7772
    @pandajin77724 жыл бұрын

    Epstein

  • @majidminhas8954

    @majidminhas8954

    4 жыл бұрын

    Did not kill himself?

  • @peraticti

    @peraticti

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who did it?

  • @mr.e3894

    @mr.e3894

    4 жыл бұрын

    @ricky gore or trump, or maybe both sides...as both sides had an interest. Either way, the ped is probably still alive on one of his islands...

  • @paulyboy1951
    @paulyboy19513 жыл бұрын

    Being from Oklahoma. The Osage were the last to get horses which were taken from the Comanches. This was in the 1590's.

  • @diaryofanaxeman539
    @diaryofanaxeman5392 жыл бұрын

    Horses helped Humanity to become who we are , all over planet Earth.