I got the Stephen Mitchell translation from my library a while back. Brilliant! Amazing that a work almost 4000 years old still has relevancy and something to teach.

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

It really is.

@jorammozes8486

3 ай бұрын

you should read the bible. its even more great. and it prophecies the whole future and what will happen when we die.

Your English is really good and clear, but it's "generation to generation" (one by one no plural x). Im wondering if the repitions are for emphasis or a feature of the culture of the time. x

Please note, re: narrative at :56 - Please note that Sumerian writing was pressed into MOIST clay. It was AFTER the writing was done that the tablets were dried (not before.)

@Fiction_Beast

Жыл бұрын

Did I say otherwise?

One of the sad things about studying history is how many stories have been lost to time. But in the end, we still explore all the same questions and themes to this day, I suppose.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

That quest for immortality really surprised me. Also the end that it was creative legacy.

I’m also on the lookout for some immortality if anyone knows. Great video!

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

If you can stay up for 7 nights. Thanks

I think you are correct ... The old Persian word for lowlands may have come from the word Uruk and then over time became Iraq. In otherwords ... Uruk was the lowlands and people just came to know or use Uruk as the word for lowlands. I have expereinced this before in exploring etymology, though I don't remember the instances.

I am very familiar with the name of this epic but that was the extent of my familiarity. I am so happy that I now know more than just the name. Interesting that some themes never lose their currency because we are still seeking answers. Carpe Diem and thanks.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Sharon! Glad it was helpful.

It’s interesting that marriage even existed that far back.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

it's been around for a long time. Monogamy is even common among some birds too, without spending too much on weddings though.

How did Gilgamesh die??

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

The epic doesn't mention but most likely of old age.

I very much enjoyed the way you told this story, thank you. This story is so much more too. It was written in Mesopotamia which is the same place the Genesis account took place. The flood of Genesis is about Noah and his wife and their three sons and their three son's wives who are rescued from a global flood. After the flood Noah's three sons migrated with their children and then there children migrated even more. We are told there was a blessing, from the original source of human life, for these families to multiply ... as in a population explosion. There is evidence that the flood story migrated with this huge family to all parts of the world. It would be easy to see families taking this story orally and after years of retelling it facts change and names change. Even over time it becoming exaggerated and fictional. I believe the Epic of Gilgamesh has some truth in it and among the fiction. That is what myth is. History extremely exaggerated. It appears to have been important enough to make a written record of which adds to it's legitimacy. ... to me anyway. Another thing to take into account is that it came from the land between the Euphrates and Tigiris Rivers which is the same area as the famous Garden of Eden where Adam and Eve forfeited their opportunity of eating from the tree of life because they did not listen to their creator ... the source of their life ... so they returned to the dust of the ground instead. Had they been wise and appreciative and trusting and loyal to their life giver they would have been given the privilege of immorality ... and would have passed it on to us through genetics. The Genesis account is different from the Epic of Gilgamesh in the fact that the Genesis account has had divine protection from tampering by human alterations and remains factual where as the Epic of Gilgamesh did not have that protection. I know Genesis seems far fetched in a lot of ways ... yet it is all completely logical and so relevant to our very immortality now. When reading it ... you should keep in mind how long ago it was written and how different things were then. There was a time when the creator and his other created intelligent creatures had access to communicate with each other but we no longer have that so it is quite strange and unreal to us now. It might seem strange that we could be immortal but there are scientist who do not think so, at all and are working hard to find away to change that. DNA is information. Information only comes from an intelligent mind. ... only. When we see design we deduce an intelligent mind. All of this is immensely deep and thought provoking.

@paulbeahm3891

Жыл бұрын

Yes, some look at the epic of gilgamesh and the book of Genesis and see it as evidence of one work of fiction copying off of a previous where as with other historical documents we look at it as one document corroborating another. Strange how that same logic isn't applied the majority of the time in this instance.

@trinacorbett4827

Жыл бұрын

@@paulbeahm3891 I don’t think it was originally fiction ... infact I believe the account of Genesis is all fact. I also ... believe it was verbally handed down from Adam to eventually Noah ... who told his three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth ... who told their sons ... who told their sons. Eventually Ham's side of the story wrote it down and eventually Moses, from Shem's side of the family, either wrote it himself or dictated it to be written and included it along with the Law. Ham's side of the family wrote the code of Hammurabi. I think there is proof of this right here in this text. Hebrew was written from right to left. If you look closely at the word Hammurabi you will easily see the word rabbi ... which equates to teacher. And ... then you will see Ham's name. My theory is the codr of Hammurabi is the teachings of Ham. Now I know what history says ... Hammurabi is suppose to be a king ... but I think my theory is pretty interesting. So ... as you can see ... they are the same story written by two different families. I am confident it is not a ficticious story.

@paulbeahm3891

Жыл бұрын

@Trina Corbett I am of the same belief. Interesting theory. You clearly have delved into this subject much more than I have as I'm not sure what the code of Hammurabi is other than what I can piece together with context, but it's interesting nonetheless.

@trinacorbett4827

Жыл бұрын

@@paulbeahm3891 the Code of Hammurabi is very similar to the Mosaic Law. You can look it up on Wikipedia. Moses was given the 10 commandments and then aboutv600 more laws ... which is called the Mosaic law. Moses came from the family line of Shem ... which was one of Noah's sons who escaped the flood on the ark. Ham was another one of Noah's sons who also was on the ark. The third brother was Japheth. Ham had sons that took their story of surving the flood and told them to their children. Ham's family also made laws of the land ... theirs is called the Code of Hammurabi. Historians believe Hammurabi was a king and that he established that code in his name. ... which may be true ... but I like my theory. Yes ... I have done a lot of research. You can read right there in Genesis ... Exodus ... Leviticus ... Numbers and Deuteronomy about Noah and Moses. Here is just one little interesting fact about the Mosaic Law. God told the Israelites not to eat certain animals. Starting at Leviticus 11:13 and through the paragraph god list the flying creatures that men should not eat and made reference to the fact he made them distateful to us. One of those flying creatures was the bat. All of those creatures actually are virus carrying creatures. How would Moses or anyone living at that time know this? They wouldn't. But ... the creator who created these creatures knew. So ... isn't interesting that the covid virus came from a bat and that one single person who had contact with that bat inected thevwhole world, killing 6 million people, and threatened economics systems all around the world? If only mankind had listened to the principals of the Mosaic Law. And ... Judaism is known for not eating swine. Swine are biologically very similar to man and can pass those viruses from birds to us ... as in swine flu or bird flu. Isn't that interesting?

@paulbeahm3891

Жыл бұрын

@Trina Corbett Yes, I enjoy bacon occasionally, but I know there are more healthy meats out there which I try to enjoy more often than pork. As for bats I can't say I've ever tried it, never will that's for sure. I'm definetly more well versed in the messianic old testament passages than anything else but I do hope to dive deeper into other subjects as well in the future.

Have you heard of the Indian/Hindu epics? I notice you have nothing from the oldest civilization that is still surviving in the world.

@Fiction_Beast

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, i will explore in the future.