Standing up to an empire that had invaded 90% of the world was an act of sheer balls, hero's each and every one of them.

@seanmacreachtain1742

4 жыл бұрын

freebeerfordworkers Ah yes, a survey made by the British talking about why everyone likes them so much. A great source.

@freebeerfordworkers

4 жыл бұрын

@@seanmacreachtain1742 you do not seem to be aware of it but the Guardian is Britain's leading liberal paper and a long-time champion of immigrant and minority rights. However, if you could put your sarcasm aside, perhaps you can tell me why up to 10,000 people from all over the world camp out on the sand dunes of Calais for months and risk their lives trying to get to the UK when they could walk to any country in Europe in perfect safety? There are two possible answers. Firstly, they are stupid or secondly they have made an informed decision that Britain is not only best place in Europe, but the best place in the world for them. Which do you think it is?

@seanmacreachtain1742

4 жыл бұрын

freebeerfordworkers They might think it’s a great place to live, that doesn’t mean they don’t dislike you . But honestly I was just making a joke, I’m not looking for an argument.

@freebeerfordworkers

4 жыл бұрын

@@seanmacreachtain1742 No problem, but to put you in the picture. I’m an expat who has lived here for 50+ years. I’m not being patronising when I say people in Ireland have no idea of the impact of mass immigration on Britain. I’m in touch with things on that side of the water and refugees and asylum seekers in Ireland are removed from the welfare system and put in "Direct temporary provision. Refugee camps in all but name and all Ireland’s great and good are outraged by this. In the UK refugee families rather than individuals are given fully furnished accommodation complete with washing machines and their benefits are paid into bank accounts opened for them and they are taught to use cash machines. I worked in British local government for 40 years, so this is not fantasy picked up in trashy newspapers. Every effort is made to conceal this from the public. In 2000 Housing Department staff in my Council were so outraged they leaked the above details to the press. The government response was to set up a separate organisation called the Refugee Council staffed by sympathetic people to settle non-EU immigrants. In case you think this is only people from the former Empire I encountered a French-speaking African with what appeared to be two wives and a newborn baby newly settled in a nice three bedroomed house. So you can see why they don’t have to actually like English people they just have to know a good thing when they see one. I am fortunate to live in the suburbs so immigration hardly affects me at all. But having done my best to serve the poorest of the British working class for 40 years it would be indecent not to be sympathetic for what is being done to them.

@seanmacreachtain1742

4 жыл бұрын

@@freebeerfordworkers Yeah I was in London a few months back and I was stunned by the diversity of the people there. Never would have guessed it before then.

Ireland had the right to kick out the foreigner Brits . A free people, breathing free. Ireland was an example for all oppressed people all over the world. Live free or die...

@halfcantan1208

4 жыл бұрын

Yes and look what they've done with that freedom turned us into a nation of sheep

@Imsuper656

4 жыл бұрын

@@halfcantan1208 Bollocks!

@halfcantan1208

4 жыл бұрын

farsensor operant look around you then say I'm talking bollox

@halfcantan1208

4 жыл бұрын

farsensor operant well you still think I'm talking ballox wel????????? Answer or are you a fucking coward ???

@DM-rp9ik

3 жыл бұрын

@@halfcantan1208 Haha even your last name is Tan classic tan behaviour

The Sherwood foresters were cannon fodder. The leaders of the rising fought alongside the volunteers. While the leaders of the British. Did the opposite. As they always do. Their is nothing stronger than the heart of a volunteer. TAL32 💚🇮🇪

An event totally forgotten in England. 1916 was the year of The Somme and Jutland.

Thanks for uploading this !! I missed it

A very British view indeed,

@looneyirish007

3 жыл бұрын

@Mark Kenny That i dont doubt in regards to the documents of peoples perceptions of such. however, ones perception or indeed ones beliefs isn't historical fact. All the people who Micheal gets on to talk are all of the one side throughout the documentary. not that there is anything wrong with that what so ever , And as the title says "A British view" I'm merely extending that opinion of such. I'm however, not saying its wrong or in anyway biased. It was very good documentary, told excellently by Portillo. You can't get any more British than Micheal Portillo. Hes a great storyteller and i watch a lot of his programs.

@looneyirish007

3 жыл бұрын

@@keithwatson1384 i dont feed off Irish propaganda either.

@charleskristiansson1296

Жыл бұрын

Makes one vomit at its insidiousness.

@muller9215

Жыл бұрын

Why only interview one Irish journalist? It's no secret that Myers is a west Brit. Robert Frisk was more objective

the days when england had an empire they say the sun wouldnt set, maybe because god wouldn't trust them in the dark

@anthonyinger7591

5 жыл бұрын

Not an English empire but a British empire,Scotland is just as bad.

@sichere

5 жыл бұрын

Pa. D - The Irish should leave the EU and join a United Kingdom

@sichere

5 жыл бұрын

Michele - Reel it in with the insults Eire is not part of the UK and has given away it's freedom to the EU. in 1937, under a new constitution, the Free State became a fully independent republic with the self-designation 'Ireland'. Northern Ireland is not part of Eire and will not be part of the EU and by my calendar it's 2018 - Moron

@sichere

5 жыл бұрын

Michele - Stick and stones - Anyone reading the post will see that you did not say the same as me - "The Irish should leave the EU and join a United Kingdom" refers to the Irish - Those that reside in NI are British although many have fought for an "independent Ireland" that is no long independent as it is ruled by the EU. Have you always aspired to be a cretin or do you just suffer from keyboard tourettes. ?

@robertmccutcheon4672

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, with Theresa May in charge !

I find it physically sickening to listen to the way that micheal is talking about the island of Ireland as if these poor soilders were killed by some strange foe on British streets . It was Irish people who want there country free of the British and there forces.

@ado75

4 жыл бұрын

The programme was made by RTE and its a credit to the Irish state broadcaster that it was made. It's important to air the opposing record of historical events. If we don't study both sides, we learn nothing from history.

@tetrahedron1000

4 жыл бұрын

@Billy Reid People like you aren't helping anything either.

@eryan37

4 жыл бұрын

Peadar, please go and vomit anywhere in Ireland or America

@eryan37

4 жыл бұрын

@Billy Reid Yep the Ira is known for its Child abusers, murderers and torturers and almost all of the victims were Irish catholics

@thomasmcalindin6453

Жыл бұрын

@@ado75 V Celti

Wonderful insight ..very enjoyable

kevin myers big irish brain creates amazingly lop sided british views.

@josephshields2922

4 жыл бұрын

Want a true account of these events watch "A terrible beauty" the docudrama. Irishmen with true ability should write their history before the revisionist steal it from them..

It's actually England's difficulty, not weakness, is Ireland's opportunity.. Someone needs to let Portillo know.. 😏

@FromaTwistedMind

3 жыл бұрын

Portillo is a Tory Establishment knob stain tbf.

@elrjames7799

3 жыл бұрын

Stiofán Ó Firghil. Excellent observation in actual historicity: well done.

Since I first became aware of the Easter Rising, I have always had the impression that the Rising leaders were initially a minority in terms of support in Dublin at least, after all, Dublin was an exception in what became the Republic of Ireland, being a Unionist city (Edward Carson was born in Dublin for example), however it was the proportion of civilian casualties and the rate of executions of the rising leaders that changed opinion. John D Ruddy did a video about the Easter Rising himself in 2016 and the bit where the British troops landed in Ireland to make their way to Dublin confirmed what was said here, as they landed, they were initially applauded by the locals, but it all changed as they approached the city itself and the aforementioned Mount Street Bridge

The Sherwood foresters were poorly trained and without experience firing a weapon...so we're the 5 lads in clanwilliam house overlooking mount st bridge...5 young boys taking of 1500 foot soldiers and killing and wounding 240 of them and that's an underestimated british account of deaths no doubt...

@stiofanofirghil1916

2 жыл бұрын

The stupid tactics of their commander's charges across Mount Street Bridge, sending so many to their doom.. Battlefield tactics on a street.. Could have crossed at the canal at Baggot Street, but General Lowe wanted the Bridge taken, "At all cost".. Cost them it did!! 👍

@f.b508

2 жыл бұрын

They could have walked a few hundred yard to the next crossing. But the officers in charge. Sent them to certain death at mount St Bridge. It was like a turkey shoot. For the volunteers.

45:00 "The general had seized the opportunity to make the British appear to the Irish as inhumane, shabby, & sacrilegious." Appearance my arse. That's as accurate a description of the British treatment of the Irish as I've ever heard.

The Irish tried the democratic route in the 19th and early 20th century. At every turn the English reneged on the promise of greater independence. The reason people opposed the uprising was their belief that the English response would be violent and punitive. They were right!

@rapier1954

4 жыл бұрын

But the English as usual in the case of Ireland went too far and turned public opinion against them.

@looneyirish007

3 жыл бұрын

@Mark Kenny it was about money im sure, same with the british army who were sent here. many, like you were of irish heritage. never hold bad blood against the ordinary man.

While I admire Michael Portillo for his understanding and empathy can't say same for some of his interviewees who seem to interpret the rising only in terms of a failure of British policy! Irish Independence was and is an inevitable unstopable part of Irish destiny proven by the Republics status in the world today. Brigadier General Lowe, General Maxwell and his kind can all burn in hell for their crimes against their own soldiers and against innocent Irish people, "we serve neither King nor Kaiser but Ireland". Ireland will be entirely Independent one day as sure as Kevin Myers is a West Brit.

@apjpisared

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, the presenter isn't the problem and doesn't lack nuance, Kevin Liars and the British general interviewed however were pretty ignorant, in Myers/Liars' case, as usual that West Brit was deliberately ignorant.

Kevin Myers comes in at about 13 minutes. Just skip straight over him.

@Dabhach1

3 жыл бұрын

@Mark Kenny Because he's not a serious person.

@apjpisared

Жыл бұрын

Yeah in fairness he is miles worse than Portillo.

Those who won at easter 1916 lost and those who lost won. The 16 of 16 planted the seeds for a british withdrawal from most of Ireland less than 6 years later.

@paulritchie5868

4 жыл бұрын

They lost,gave away the most important part and we all have suffered for that..

@johngilmore6688

3 жыл бұрын

It's such a pity that De Valera's government executed many more IRA men that the British 16 versus 77.

@wonjubhoy

Ай бұрын

​@@johngilmore6688It was the free state who executed 77.

Excellent documentary

@colonelwhite1512

6 жыл бұрын

BS. Its British propaganda. Watch this for the truth kzread.info/dash/bejne/eppryMeoqbeTqdY.html

@tommyocallaghan4593

5 жыл бұрын

@@colonelwhite1512 To be fair...it is called the "British View".

@christophersimon8339

4 жыл бұрын

@@colonelwhite1512 It's made by Midas productions for RTE. It's called 'The British View' when studying history, one should study all aspects.

@Dannydantimpat

4 жыл бұрын

@Clonmore This documentary really proves of how little the Westminster ruling elite understood / understands Ireland ( then or now) The true Indigenous people of Ireland , never for one minute thought of themselves as being English/, British or what ever term Westminster chose to use . They were and are Irish and Irish only .

On Easter Monday Pearse read out the words "the Republic guarantees religious and civil liberty, equal rights and equal opportunities to all it's citizens, and declares it's resolve to pursue the happiness and prosperity of the whole nation and all it's parts, cherishing all the children of the nation equally and oblivious to the differences carefully fostered by an alien government. Which have divided a minority from the majority in the past." Those words are sacrilegious to the British establishment as to them the monarchy that personification of inequality is and corruption is sacred and worthy of reverence. Inequality, capitalism and racial hierarchy are the key tenets of the cult of British exceptionalism and that is why the British government had to crush our leaders of 16

@foraustralia2558

10 ай бұрын

You know FULL WELL that all the other democrats were fighting to save it at the time .. 16 was a stab in the back to If they had waited till 1918 & the end of the war there would have been no issue .. it was a mess, unsupported by the Irish peoel More Irish nationalist who died fight for freedom at this time died on the western front ...Just a fact of hist No Irish Republic if the German had won I also let the worst part sof the British Establishment escape scrutiny for their handling of Ireland, & sabotaged self examination within the wider UK democracy for yeas as a result

@stpat7614

8 ай бұрын

But the Irish republic wound up being no better.

AT 9-50...HE SAYS "IRISH REBELS" ON ENGLISH STREETS 🙄🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂😂😂😂NOW THAT'S FUNNY 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪TAL

@looneyirish007

3 жыл бұрын

portillo wasn't wrong by that statement.

@Aindriuh

3 жыл бұрын

To soldiers of an English regiment that is what they would have thought.

A very BRITISH veiw, we are not your fellow countrymen

there was lots of support all over east west south and even catholics in north

Amazingly blinkered perspective built upon an almost utterly ignorant monochromatic predictale view of an invented imperial richousnes. Without context

@MackerelCat

5 жыл бұрын

It says Enemy Files in the title, what did you expect?

'Irish rebels,.... "on BRITISH streets" ' will the uk all of ierland back ???

" Gen Maxwell made the British appear to the irish as sacrilegious and shabby"-narrator No they didn't "appear" they were sacrilegious and shabby.

It's really sad also there was Irish families who had sons in the British army at that very time. It divided Irish people. It was only when the British shot all the leaders of 1916 that the people of Ireland came support the cause

@MrTipperX

4 жыл бұрын

Very true.

@johngilmore6688

3 жыл бұрын

DeVelera went on to execute 77 IRA men, versus 16 by the British.

@Irish780

3 жыл бұрын

@@johngilmore6688 yes I was in they pub in Cork where Collins had his last drink. Also he was shot by his own men. Accident or not

... The democratic route was tried, the result was paramilitaries in Ulster and tacit support from the British army for terrorism against a peaceful transition to Irish devolution.

United Ireland in next 10 years hopefully.

there not their fellow countrymen brits are brits

@rapier1954

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly and they didn't mingle with the native Irish population either.

@looneyirish007

3 жыл бұрын

@@rapier1954 such nonsense that statement.

@rapier1954

3 жыл бұрын

@@looneyirish007 sorry that the facts have intruded on your delusions to make you uncomfortable

@looneyirish007

3 жыл бұрын

@@rapier1954 Im deluded?. riiiiiiiiight. I'm not the one coming out with that Brits and Irish didn't intermingle. plenty married or conceived children before 1916 and after. Genealogy can attest to that. Even Frederick Dietrichsen enjoyed a brief but poignant chance encounter with his Irish wife and his children just before he was killed on Mount Street Bridge during the Rising. Irishmen and british men fought in ww1 in the trenches, and in 1916. Several of the republican leaders of the Easter Rising had strong links to the British Army. To suggest there was zero mingling done is not true, or fact, for that matter.

In fact the view that the rising was a betrayal of the men fighting the great war was widely shared in Ireland at the time , the rebels were spat at by the population of Dublin when they were lead away after surrender . Something happened after the execution of the rebel leaders that shifted opinion towards to todays view that these idiots were freedom fighters , and history is written by the winners so that is the view held in Britain today ( amongst the fairly small number of people who in fact know that it happened )

@peadarmeenagh840

4 жыл бұрын

What a blind fool you are.

@gloin10

4 жыл бұрын

@@peadarmeenagh840 What '5888max' wrote about the reaction of Dublin's population to the rebels of the Easter Rising is true. As they were led away into imprisonment or death, they were spat at, and horse shit and stones were hurled at them. General Maxwell and his slow motion executions of the leaders of the Easter Rising was what turned the sympathies of the population of Dublin, and most of Ireland, around. The final execution, involving James Connolly being shot sitting on a chair because he was unable to stand due to a wound, was the final straw. It is important to be honest about our history.

@peadarmeenagh840

4 жыл бұрын

@@gloin10 Yes the people of Dublin but not the island as a whole,and your right it is good to be honest about our pass and the misery that the English inflicted on the people of Ireland and countless other countries through out the world, even in present day and they are as bad as any so call dictator states that they claim to be against. The attitude of the English is still to this day that it was not the right of the Irish people to rise up and free themselves. I have no sympathy for British soldiers shot in a land that they should not be in.

@gloin10

4 жыл бұрын

@@peadarmeenagh840 "Yes the people of Dublin but not the island as a whole..."? Given that the Easter Rising was confined almost exclusively to Dublin, it is hardly surprising that people outside Dublin did not react in the same way. However, the feeling across the country, before Maxwell's executions started, was very much the same. I do have to agree with you about the present day attitudes of a lot of English people towards Ireland and the Irish. The most recent example was the notion floated in the UK media that the Republic of Ireland(RoI) should get a temporary leave of absence from the EU, so that the UK wouldn't have to worry about the Backstop... Apparently we have some sort of duty to sacrifice ourselves to make life easy for them...

@rapier1954

4 жыл бұрын

What happened it the British as usual in relation to Ireland went too far and turned public opinion against them. Two other things also stood out the Home Rule Bill was passed but not implemented, then atrocities were committed against the local population who themselves had nothing to do with rebel activities. The atrocities peaked when years later the Black and Tans went onto the pitch at a game and indiscriminately shot into the spectators killing a dozen or so. It was shortly after that the British decided to leave.

Traitors Yes, murderers no. It was a valid uprising.

@drumnykerne1

5 жыл бұрын

If you kill someone contrary to the law you are a murderer.

@johnpearson3046

5 жыл бұрын

@@drumnykerne1 And if you illegally occupy someone elses country for 700 years and refuse to give it back then what does that make you?

@keithwatson1384

5 жыл бұрын

John Pearson tell me how it was illegally? most people up to this point didn't want independence, only home rule, the rising changed that!

@Dannydantimpat

4 жыл бұрын

@ p And whose law may that be?

My great grand father was sent from Belfast to help train the new forresters

one of the foresters killed a boy wirh a knife whilst trying to save his dad this soldier later killed himself in a place called nottingham where his mam found his dead body his guilt of killing a child played on his mind

@looneyirish007

3 жыл бұрын

@Mark Kenny im glad portillo mentioned the forresters, i pass that place going to work everyday, theres a monument there, many pass it daily not knowing what it is or what occurred there.

Who the hell would trust Kevin Myers

Where in the Declaration does it mention Germany. It simply says 'our gallant allies in Europe'. Sure that could be any nation. 🤔

@theirishu2ber683

4 жыл бұрын

Its more likely refering to France and Spain

@tetrahedron1000

4 жыл бұрын

@obrbob194 In what way did the Irish Republic support Hitler? I know that Ireland stayed neutral but they actually did some things to help the Allies behind the scenes and didn't do anything for the Nazis.

@colmhain

4 жыл бұрын

While the Proclamation doesn't expressly mention Germany, the Military Council, i.e. the seven signatories of said Proclamation, were in contact with the German government regarding provision of weapons and "advisors" to train Irish soldiers. A partial shipment, with no heavy weapons or personnel, was sent on the Libau (disguised as the Aud, a neutral Norwegian ship) and capture by British forces. En route to Cork Harbour under British escort, the ship was scuttled by her crew.

@paulritchie5868

4 жыл бұрын

colmhain suppose it’s a case of my enemy’s enemy...wish the whole country was united then,so many lives lost in the troubles and what for..

@martymac1932

4 жыл бұрын

@Chief Big Bob as did the british royal family.

I see the cabinet notes are not handled with white gloves

Informative - interesting presentation - Thank you

Ha ha , he didn't mean "take no prisoners" when he said and wrote "take no prisoners" , what he meant was "please apply your own moral judgement". What a load of shite.

It's Pádraic Pearse not Patrick (Pronounced like Paw-Rick)

Sadly Netanyahu of Gaza has taken a whole leaf out of General Maxwell's Rubrics and Political meme.

Its strange how they leave out the poor and awful treatment of irish people under British rule. And how they had a right to defend there home, imagine England was controlled by a foreign power. It would be wrong to them no other way about it

@dod4004

Жыл бұрын

This isn't some general documentary about Ireland. It's about the British reaction to the 1916 Rising.

In fairness while Portillo is a bit of a wally, at least he tried. As an Irishman, west Brit revisionists like Kevin Liars et al are far more annoying.

😆. Even the soundtrack is predictable. The account of soldiers marching is to the tune “The Sash” 😆

@Aindriuh

3 жыл бұрын

The Irish Guards would have done so. They were not a Catholic Regiment. The Muster Fusiliers wouldn't have done so.

The chief of police said "shoot them if they have their hands in their pockets...you'll get some innocent, but kill the right ones too. ". ( he was sacked and was later shot, but is shows the contempt the English Establishment had for the Irish. I'm British, BTW.

@freebeerfordworkers

4 жыл бұрын

That is the IRA version of what he said, what he actually said was any man who does not raise his hands when ordered and keeps them in his pocket can be shot, but as a detail he wasn't English he was an Ulsterman.

@shaneduggan7901

4 жыл бұрын

@@freebeerfordworkers same thing

@freebeerfordworkers

4 жыл бұрын

@@shaneduggan7901 No

@shaneduggan7901

4 жыл бұрын

@@freebeerfordworkers no what numpty

@freebeerfordworkers

4 жыл бұрын

@@shaneduggan7901 Abuse noted goodbye

Good man Fisk. Ireland couldn't have gained her freedom without the rising, dead right. England would never have let Ireland go without having it's arm forced. All this talk about the British soldiers being cheered by the people of Dublin, Dan Breen talked about this, the Irish had become slavish and serf minded, the men and women of 1916 shook us out of this stupper. Many working class Irish fought for the British in WWI and of course the wives and widows of these men supported the British army. Many were worried about their pentions because of what the rebels were doing,that doesn't mean the Irish saw themselves as British. The Irish people began supporting the rebels after the executions because their Brithishness was only skin deep.

So kevin myers is a military expert now

@26wessex84

5 жыл бұрын

No , Kevin Myers is a gob on stick .

@paulmlally1

5 жыл бұрын

If I gave Kevin Myres a machine gun with 50 rounds and I had just one shot with a .22 Guess who would die first and I am just a blind farmer.

@Dannydantimpat

4 жыл бұрын

@irishlongsword boland Kevin Myers is an Anglophile who can’t / won’t ever see the harm that the Westminster empire has done to the world

We have known the days...

Medieval Mentality, Modern Weaponry.

Brits have come a long way. the BBC yesterday reported that they are trying to pass a law preventing prosecution of soldiers for wwar crimes in Ireland, and Iraq.

Brits Out - 2022!

The oddest bit was the comparison with islamic jihadists. Their conception of martyrdom is different, self-immolation Edit: "not" martyrdom, and Patrick Henry Pearse died through execution (He was obviously willing to die through warfare which he considered as a soldier for Ireland. Maybe perverse but certainly not cultish, the Rising was done deliberately not like an insurgency and failed (Although with my limited knowledge I think it could have won if the orders were not rescinded and the Castle and other approaches defended.) yet he is portrayed here as a lunatic. Bear in mind too that there were plenty of non-"culters" in the Rising.). On the other hand I happen to agree on the other points, it was British over-reaction more than anything that sealed it, in fact I do not even see how the executions are excessive (They tried to over-throw the government, what else would you do?). A pardon would have been politically sensible and it is definitely true that the rebellion was really unpopular. Try to square what I wrote with the fact I am a Monarchist and an Irish Nationalist.

I don't think anyone of any intelligence could believe that when a General orders his men to "Take No Prisoners". he might not have actually meant what it sounded like. It would be highly irresponsible of him to say something like that when he later says it was NOT what he meant. I therefore assert that Brigadier General Low should have been tried as a War Criminal for issuing such an Order. Later in the War Rebels also had committed the same toward surrendering British Troops and were accused by the English of War Crimes - so in my judgement Low was to blame for beginning such retaliation toward Rebel Troops. I also know when the American Colonies were in rebellion English Troops did the same toward the Colonial Forces in Rebellion. The "British Dragoons" issued orders of "No Quarter" - meaning "No Surrender accepted". - . ... To give no quarter means to show no mercy, to award no clemency. To give no quarter originally applied to military situations. In numerous instance instance entire villages of Woman, Children, and even a Priest in one village. They were all slaughtered by locking them in the town Church's and setting fire to the Church's because those villagers were known to have some of their men folk fighting on the American Rebel Side. So we see that "No Quarter" had been used by the British at least on these earlier occasions. To this day Americans have never forgotten nor forgiven and the remains with the Graveyards are considered "Hallow Ground" and National Historical Sites Protected..

@randalmbundy

4 жыл бұрын

and it is worth noting in my opinion that General Maxwell made matters even worse and set the stage for a "Never Ending" continuation of the Rebellion. It was the same with the above incidents I mentioned of Civilians being Targeted. It accomplished "Inflaming the Entire Population" against the British and we see how that worked out for the British in the American Colonies.

The comments at 20.22 to 20:32 are not only provocative but are complete disingenuous to the period of the Rising. Linking "Blood Sacrifice " of the 1916 leadership to that of suicide bombers in modern conflicts shows a complete misunderstanding of the concept. Firstly, there is no religious aspect in the 1916 notion, as well as no deliberate targeting of civilians. Finally, it is the 1916 leadership who sacrifices themselves, not their soldiers or fellow Irish people, for the Republic. Can't see any of the leadership of the various terrorist groups today doing the same. This so-called historian should be ashamed for making such a obviously flawed parallel. In fact this whole documentary's not so subtle linking of the 1916 rebellion to modern insurgencies is not just deeply anachronistic but shows a complete misunderstanding of the era. No wonder they couldn't ger any credible Irish experts on the period to comment or appear. I wonder did they even try! The most blatant example of "Brit-plaining" I have seen in a long time!

LOl The British dead lay knee deep" Seriously Portillo is the real life ' nice but dim Tim:. The poor fool does not even see it. He was laughed at in the House and he clapped when he was jeered.

Portillo makes great tv

Sad Brits then.. same stuff now.

it seems like History is to blame....

every country has a moral authourity of their own land the british rememer stole eire going back 700years

What was "divisive" was the subsequent shooting by the vengeful English military leaders against a wall in Montjoy Prison of the "rising's" leaders. That made the local Irish unite against the occupying invaders - AKA the English (not "British").

@WildOwlFilms

5 ай бұрын

They were shot in Kilmainham Gaol not Mountjoy.

@petergraves2085

5 ай бұрын

@@WildOwlFilms Thanks - I should have remembered, having visited that site in Kilmainham Prison several years ago.

It would great movie from be English point of view

Padraig Pearse

@agatakornacka9843

8 жыл бұрын

That's Irish for Patrick

@guderrin

8 жыл бұрын

+A-oNeko That's his name. That's how he wanted it to be said. Padraig, not Patrick.

@agatakornacka9843

8 жыл бұрын

+guderrin those two mean the exact same it doesn't matter how you say it.

@guderrin

8 жыл бұрын

+A-oNeko I'd say it does when you're fighting the English.

@agatakornacka9843

8 жыл бұрын

I have a set example for you about how it doesn't matter. John Paul the second was a Polish Pope. His name is Jan Paweł, in countries like America, Ireland or Britain they call him John Paul. see? That's the same thing, like Patryk and Padraig

Lol at all the triggered armchair republicans in the comments who clearly didn’t watched the whole video

@looneyirish007

3 жыл бұрын

shinbots

@johngilmore6688

3 жыл бұрын

"Armchair Republicans, Hilarious!!lol

The Brits always made the mistake that they could suppress Irish rebellion and that would finish it. They were so wrong since each uprising they put down only resulted in the fallen being replaced and confronting the mighty British empire again and again. And, referring to the Irish as fellow countrymen of the Brit is amusing as it just exposes British ignorance and stupidity since the Irish Celts had long ago invaded and conquered Britain while the Brits were too busy engaged in tribal warfare. The name, "Scotland" originated from a Celtic tribe located in the very south east of Ireland called the Scotts. The Devon, Cornwall and west country accents with the pronounced `r' originates from the Irish Celt.

When have the British ever given "independence" to one of "their" colonies or territories?As an American I have always stood with my Irish brothers in their demand for total independence.

@eryan37

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, some Americans have always helped the IRA just as some Americans always support Israel Its easy to enjoy murder when all you have to do is pay for it and cheer from the sidelines

@paulritchie5868

4 жыл бұрын

I will let you into a secret,the south don’t really want anything to do with the Nutters in the North,They couldn’t afford to pay the welfare bill,police it or control 1million prods who wouldn’t be best pleased to be called Irish and ruled by Dublin ..Westminster would ditch Ulster in a heart beat and save £8 Billion a year..if it could get away with it.

@kirishima2370

4 жыл бұрын

As an American...maybe you should keep your nose out of it. And most British colonies were given independence, that's why there's a Commonwealth

@apjpisared

Жыл бұрын

India 1947 and some of the African colonies, but the situation with Northern Ireland and Scotland shows they would not have let us go if they had a choice in the matter. We are 'too close to home' for their traditional ruling classes. Only violence by the IRA between 1919-21 made them realise the State had to be at least independent in areas where they had no British colonists to pretend to care about. Otherwise we would have gone round in circles the same way we did between 1840s, Daniel O Connell's day when the British parliament preferred to starve and kill off people to make way for cows, 1880s when Parnell was undermined by bigoted moralists to stop Ireland having Home Rule, and the 1891-1913 Kill Home Rule with Kindness policies that sought a paternalistic bribing sort of subjugation to try and buy the people's desire for freedom with land reforms in place of the previously brutal subjugation, and then WW1 came, Home Rule was shelved AGAIN conveniently, and the rest is history.

he ment it ok as he orfered it even brits soldiers addmitted this in 19 26

its nearer free ireland

Questioning the orders given to troops is pointless. The British were using the standard tactics they used in the rest of their empire. They would have done the same even if the orders had never been issued.

Less shite in my local porti loo.

Myers’s

insurgents 🤣 brave irishmen and women

I guess that the Brits were indeed once again too slow, not with it, not yet in these modern times. And yes, it wasn't neglect but overall crap hitting the fan. Who was at fault? Certainly not the Irish nor Ireland. The rest is but rewriting of history.

Kevin Myers has an incredibly narrow understanding of the day - to state that democracy would have done it is just asinine!

The main reasons that the English ignored preparations for an uprising were, general contempt for the Irish, delusional levels of self confidence, but more importantly that the heavily armed so called police could easily suppress any uprising. Mostly they were right. The RIC was in possession of field artillery and machine guns and should be really considered an army of occupation. So the English easily out gunned the Irish. But their contempt and vanity eventually lost the Irish War of Independence.

@merseybeat1963

4 жыл бұрын

Just a giant amount of rubbish spoken here..."contempt for the Irish....delusional self confidence"..all pure shite. The Union was for fighting for its life and barely holding on when these people decided to entrench themselves in the center of the most densely populated area turning the innocent into human shields ..And all done during the celebration of the representative of God on earth no less. Just a nightmare.

Only an English Imperialist could call the Easter Rising devisive today. Clearly you have considered no other view.

@keithwatson1384

5 жыл бұрын

MrJonRio it was, up to that point most people in Ireland didn't want a fully independent Ireland! Home rule yes, not independence!

@MrJonRio

5 жыл бұрын

What on Earth does that have to do with any thing?@@keithwatson1384

@keithwatson1384

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrJonRiosorry yes, you said today, I thought you meant back then! My bad, although its probably still divisive in NI and GB!

@peadarmeenagh840

4 жыл бұрын

@@keithwatson1384 who cares what you thing,quick off the mark to take the British side. They never will be wanted in Ireland and anywhere else is they world that they took by force. And you are incorrect with your bias stats anyway.

@loquayrocks

4 жыл бұрын

so, Northern Ireland isn't being divisive? Both of my Grandfathers fought in the war of independence, both had never considered an Irish Republic before the executions of the leaders of the Rising. They would have been content with home rule and remaining part of the empire. Shooting the leaders, especially Connolly, changed everything. Looking at it from modern eyes, it is easy to forget that and stick with the idealism that has been drilled into us since childhood and for over 100 years. I have never liked Michael Portillo but I think he presented this very well and there was so much in this that I was never taught in school and anyone who knows me knows that I was obsessed with the Rising and especially Pearse.

Have people bothered to read the name of this documentary. Of course it will be presented with a strong English bias. Relax a little.

@26wessex84

5 жыл бұрын

That's why they call you Brain maclaughlin.

@keithwatson1384

5 жыл бұрын

Or we are taught with an extreme Irish bias i.e. Those English bastards how dare they blah blah blah.

@merseybeat1963

4 жыл бұрын

This "view" is more neutral and bias than almost any Ive seen.

@apjpisared

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's quite reasonable and tame considering he is presenting it from the view of the regime of the time, in fairness it isn't even Portillo's actual perspective, he is playing Devil's advocate and quoting the documents. Some people are morons. However, it is right to get pissed off at some of the anti Irish comments by English ignoramuses in the thread too.

All tyrants shall hang

The mental gymnastics being played here with the facts is impressive. The portrayal of the Carsonite and Redmonite Unionists is very biased in their favour. Redmond lead the call for Irishmen to join in WW1, an imperialist war, which lead to the death of 30'000 Irishmen (30 times more than the Rising). Carson was a supremacist thug who let murder gangs in police uniforms run the streets after partition and before WW1 tried to start a civil war. It was he who brought the gun back into Irish politics. The joke that the leaders of the Rising had never tried democracy ignores the fact that under British rule there was no democracy. At best they could be elected as a powerless minority in Westminster. In terms of the portrayal of the British officials and generals remember it was their artillery and atrocities that caused most of the deaths during the Rising. This was less than a lifetime after the genocide of the famine that caused 1-2 million deaths in Ireland. Britain was ruling one of the most brutal and harmful empires in history. No whitewash attempts will change this

@skyriderize

4 жыл бұрын

The definition of famine is such that there's no sustenance available. Beef Lamb Pork Chicken Fish eggs Milk Vegetables & Grain & much more were looted during the potato crop failure which occurred throughout the United States & Europe. Welcome to the Fore!

@raleighburner1589

4 жыл бұрын

It should be noted that cork and Dublin suffered nothing during the potato blight also Scotland and england had a potato blight in the 17th century in fact the main reason for the Scots going to Ulster was because they were starving and the Irish helped them

@tetrahedron1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@raleighburner1589 Oh, yeah!!! I never heard that one before.

@tetrahedron1000

4 жыл бұрын

Carson and his cronies armed themselves with German arms before the First World War and were prepared to fight the British if they tried to implement Home Rule. If the British Army hadn't mutinied at Curragh, they would probably have been fighting the British during the First World War, which would have caused more problems for us than the rebels in Dublin. However, I am one of these people who believe that the First World War should never have happened and we would have been better to have stayed out of it. The First World War caused many more casualties than the Easter Rising for British, Irish, French and German soldiers alike. A horrendous waste of young lives for nothing - not to mention what it led to later, namely the rise of the Nazis as well as Stalin.

@tetrahedron1000

4 жыл бұрын

@@raleighburner1589 Didn't they put people off their land?

Unbelievable!

Wish everyone would stop living room n the past and move on just none of us was there.

@tigerspuds

5 жыл бұрын

I wish people would learn how to write proper English before posting on here.

Empire building again ha, never.

Dublin is still a British city

@Radiophile212

5 жыл бұрын

daniel courtney It’s an Irish City idiot! Baile Atha Cliath... Educate yourself

@greatone7314

5 жыл бұрын

It is in essence a british city, @@Radiophile212

@Radiophile212

5 жыл бұрын

daniel courtney No it’s not in essence. It was Irish before the Brits took it from us for 800 years and we have took it back for almost the last hundred. Hopefully we will take back the 6 counties very soon, and finally end forever the poisonous ties to Brutish British

@greatone7314

5 жыл бұрын

It was not Irish before the Normans came to civilize the Island. Irish wasn't defined until Queen Elizabeth 1 first called it Ireland and the people Irish. In fact there wasn't even a County system until then either. The natives were todays Travellers. Dublin was always a foreign city in Ireland and especially British for 800 years hence the name jackeens. @@Radiophile212

@greatone7314

5 жыл бұрын

In fact just look at the jackeens behavior towards the 1916 volenteers@@Radiophile212

The German view of murdering 6 million of a certain religious faith would make as much sense as this video. Comical.

Portillo's father, a refugee from Fascist Spain, must look at his Son as a useful emetic. Portillo shames his heritage.

13:20 ..they chose the violent route without using the democratic route because first..the majority of the citizens would have voted against them as at the time, only America had a better standard of living than the UK. Secondly the plan to over throw the United Kingdom was not hatched in Ireland. It was created and born by the same people who created the Bolsheviks (who over threw the Russian Empire) and the Young Turks (who brought down the Ottomans). It was a plan funded and created elsewhere by an elite who are bringing about a New World order. Look at pictures of De Valera..does that face look Irish/Celtic to you.

@Meaocb

4 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@johngilmore6688

3 жыл бұрын

Ugly!

horrible english accent ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

it was a robbed british so calle city it was irish eire go braigh ta se eire

@keithwatson1384

5 жыл бұрын

thomas poll it was built by the Viking, then Norman's, then English, the the British, as it everything in Ireland!

Amazing how can such a sick documentary be produced and aired, defending carnage and justifying the unjustifiable

@TheRiordanlad

4 жыл бұрын

Are you talking about World War 1??????

ira where not trained either

Fair enough, that was a well balanced analysis by the end then so.... Fair play; an actual impartial British journalist, who turns out to be prepared to acknowledge the actual facts and, who understands the nuances enough to be fair to both parties, and not just make it another "irish people were/are terrorists" propaganda pitch for the "put upon" Empire.... Some very interesting artefacts too!!!

@skippership7

5 жыл бұрын

Niamh McLoughlin I agree “to a point” = interesting, but why are the British still pushing the same old rubbish to make a political point “even in this day and age” when everyone knows this is garbage and why are they still not addressing the “huge elephant” in the room? Some of this is false information and anyone who thinks otherwise is either very naive or just gullible.

@skippership7

5 жыл бұрын

Niamh McLoughlin By the way Michael Portillo now calls himself a journalist but let’s not forget his was in the Tory cabinet minister, Secretary of State for Defence and a huge supporter of Maggie Thatcher, he also was responsible for introducing the pole tax, hmmmmmmmm!

@keithwatson1384

5 жыл бұрын

skippership7 nothing wrong with Margaret thatcher!

@skippership7

5 жыл бұрын

@Keith Watson Well you obviously didn’t have to live through those times did you son, either that or you have shite in your eyes...thousands of miners and their families put on the scrap heap and the destruction of whole communities, selling off all the family silver to pay the bills, unemployment soaring, 1 in 5 in the North of Britain unemployed, the shoot to kill policy and being threatened by her own legal advisor, workers rights stripped away, hunger strikes in the North, broadcasting bans for Irish Republicans, pole tax riots, even her own party organised a coup against her. Yeah right they were really happy days for Joe public. So what planet were you on at the time then? I expect you think May is doing a really good job as well, or perhaps you want Rees-Mogg to take Europe back the the 18th century again? Clearly you did not experience those times otherwise you wouldn’t be making such stupid statements. Anyway back to my point of the video, why do you think 256.10 was omitted?

@keithwatson1384

5 жыл бұрын

@@skippership7 i think May is doing an awful job, I'd say she's the worst PM since Eden! But Thatcher did a lot of good as well, she ended the monopoly unions had over literally everything which is why so many industries were decimated, she put an end to that, although people did suffer! She was certainly controversial and her short term benefits weren't good but in the long term it saved what ever was left of the nation!

Can't stand Portillo. Very impartial. See how proud he is of being a wanker. Hate that sort so much. Stick him back on Trains to Timbuktu

@christophermcguire7888

4 жыл бұрын

Neither me or Meyers

@johngilmore6688

3 жыл бұрын

I rather enjoyed Mr P.

Load of rubbish

I respect the views of the Irish patriots, then and now, including those commenting on this video. They are, however, the enemies of the British race, members of a people always ready to stab GB in the back, be it the Napoleonic or 1st WW. All things considered the imperial power treated the revolutionaries quite mildly; Collins and his murder gang upped the ante. Sadly the Black and Tans were the result.

@garethmalone2905

4 жыл бұрын

Come out ye black and tan!

@BeltandBraces

4 жыл бұрын

will wright-British race?your a nation made up of different nations commonly called a nation of Bastards.

@eg2514

4 жыл бұрын

I would like to know how English people would feel if their country was invaded and their families were tossed out of their lands, starved to death and killed with impunity whenever the invaders felt. Would they be stabbing their invaders in the back, if they had dared to stand up and fight. Should the Irish people have been content to live as serfs with no rights so that inbred monarchs in England can continue to profit from their hardship. As Connelly said he respects any man who does his duty. The Irish men did their duty for their families and countries. Loss of life is tragic if England had not sent these young men this wouldn't have happened. For this man to say we were citizens, when is a slave with unequal rights a CITIZEN. This documentary is one of the worst whitewashes I've ever seen the English try to pull.

@eg2514

4 жыл бұрын

I would like English people to remember that your former King was a Nazi sympathiser. Buckingham Palace tried to keep this information under wraps for many many years, the information was only made public not that long ago. It is documentaries like these that actually do a lot to promote Irish dislike of the English. Just as it was the actions of the English government after the 1916 rising that actually galvanised the Irish support for the rising. Long love "THE END OF THE EMPIRE"

@apjpisared

Жыл бұрын

@William Wright Britain has no right to expect 'loyalty' or friendship from Ireland, Britain actually is the one that breaks its word time and time again to this day with the Brexit/border situation; Britain lied to the Irish people about Home Rule being a future possibility between 1880-1914; British rule in Ireland was only ever about lying, stealing, colonising and cultural genocide, it was never about being 'equal partners' in some mythical union; to this day what remains is a very unequal union, just unlike the past they don't have any effective resistance from Northern Ireland or Scotland so they can simply use laws and propaganda rather than violence to suppress their 'regional' nations. I enjoy visits to Britain and can meet many nice Brits but the thought of if history had been different, having the whole island like some version of Northern Ireland or Wales, makes me sick to my stomach. I'd rather Ireland be a semi failed state than actually have Britain govern it again, cos I'm not British. That's what morons like you fail to understand, we owe no loyalty to former colonial masters who undermine our state every chance they get, or who in the case of the English public, are in general denial and willful ignorance about their country's history, and who often belittle Irish people with jokes about potatoes or out of context accusations over De Valera in WW2 or nonsense blaming us for their stupid Brexit shitshow..

This video, as one would expect, is full of insulting language towards Ireland. There is nothing new in it, it is simply the narrative of British colonialism believing they could do no wrong in their quest to subdue other nations. Kevin Myers is a bitter enemy of Ireland and Irish independence. To say he is just an MI5 media asset doesn't begin to describe his hatred of the Irish nation. His raison d'etre is to inflict as much of his poisonous hatred onto Irish society as possible. Thankfully since this video was produced, Myers has been outed completely and he is finished as a so-called journalist. No account emanating from Britain will ever admit the historical truth in relation to Ireland or any other British colony. There is no such thing as reconciliation between Irish independence and British imperialism. All talk of reconciliation only ever means accepting British domination and its extant remnants in Ireland, it never means that the British would reconcile themselves with Ireland's murdered patriots and commemorate them accordingly, yet they ask that Ireland commemorates British imperialism, its imperialist wars and its wars against the Irish nation. We should never accept Britain's right to occupy any part of Ireland at any time.

@raymondmaccarthy9782

4 жыл бұрын

famine 500 docu about death camps famine 0

The Irish have been our enemy' for a hundred years ! As so often British rule was better than what went before and better than what came after ! Southern Ireland has an appalling history !

@patmaher9429

4 жыл бұрын

Are you on the same planet if the Brits had stayed at home in the first place the world would be a better place look at the mess they left in the sub continent and the wars caused world wide

Interestingt he Brits talk about the cult of blood sacrifice. Don't they have their own? The Somme? Rememberance day? Battle of Britain? And so many more. What about that fella who charged an Argie machine gun nest during the falklands...no blood sacrifice there nah?

A very BRITISH veiw, we are not your fellow countrymen

@looneyirish007

3 жыл бұрын

@Mark Kenny same here. anyone who speaks english isnt foreign to me, was in uk 2 years ago and it didnt feel foreign to me.