I'm so happy the algorithm recommended this to me. My video about this election is not nearly this good.

@andrewvirtue5048

Жыл бұрын

Mr. Beat for Governor!

@dirty_deeds3523

Жыл бұрын

Love that my favorite history Channel loves it as much as I do!

@pedrotasca9733

Жыл бұрын

Mr beast!! Give money me

@jtb3797

Жыл бұрын

The most humble comment

@mrsatire9475

Жыл бұрын

Mr. Beat for president

I think it is a bit ironic that even an election with "no political parties" had two dominate factions strategizing amongst themselves.

@tommylitz4543

Жыл бұрын

Federalists VS Democratic-Republicans

@Janzer_

Жыл бұрын

it's how human being view life. this vs that.

@garythecyclingnerd6219

Жыл бұрын

I don’t blame them for not knowing all first past the post voting systems result in 2 factions over time. It’s inevitable. But we could amend it to the ranked choice option which would be much more fair

@chrisf9156

Жыл бұрын

Not ironic at all when the Electoral College is determined by a majority and the built in failsafe is the Representatives in Congress also by majority. The system is very much set up for a 2-party system.

@Zyn_Smooth6

Жыл бұрын

There was always two parties, the federalists, and the anti-federalists

It's kind of funny how in the first election they IMMEDIATELY starting gaming the rules, lol.

@multivision3646

Жыл бұрын

You know I’ve begun to accept that this is human nature. The ground rules should be designed to accommodate the gaming of itself.

@nakenmil

Жыл бұрын

@@multivision3646 Unfortunately, yes. Rules must be robust enough to disincentivize too much strategizing. How to do that is clearly that difficult part, as we can see centuries later.

@Dacky1989

Жыл бұрын

Yup the Nation has been dirty and corrupted from George Washington to George Floyd and beyond

@chicken29843

Жыл бұрын

@@multivision3646 probably not possible while keeping the government functional. We could do better though. Cutting corporations out of campaign funding would be a nice step. Would like to see term limits on Congress and and a change to the presidential term. 1, 6 year term for a president, no chance at reelection no bullshitting or getting cold feet or doing crazy shit to get reelected. Supreme court should also probably not be a lifetime appointment

@bigchedds8389

Жыл бұрын

@@multivision3646 it's not human nature. If that was the case they would have allowed everyone to vote during this election. Unfortunately they only allowed those who were already benefiting from the system to vote... Check out shays rebellion. It was a simple tax revolt (propaganda in America goes away back) that escalated after Massachusetts government turned a blind eye to citizens concerns (like them losing their land because of unbearable taxation...) George Washington actually held the opinion that this revolt needed to be stopped because movements pointing out the flaw inherent in the system tend to gain traction among the public... youll also find Massachusetts hired a private army to suppress the tax revolt since the the governor (James Bowdoin) couldn't get militia due to the articles of confederation. Oh and you'll notice ratification talks (introduction of big government/centralized power) began the same year as shays rebellion (tax revolt) 1787. Edit: and a few years after ratification was finalized you'll find one man now had the power to fall up armed men at a moments notice. Which George Washington used during the whiskey rebellion (another tax revolt.)

Weve been fighting the same rural vs. urban, local vs. federal government arguments since our country's inception.

@jaygarcia6338

6 ай бұрын

it's almost like it was flawed from the beginning 😭😭

@pfcspencer11b

6 ай бұрын

@@jaygarcia6338 or to the rational mind, from the dawn of time power has been consolidated in urban centers and amongst the ruling class of those centers and our constitution was supposed to eliminate this because its always used to trample on the rights of the individual. Then morons got involved.

@woozie___

6 ай бұрын

And around the world before our country was even a thought

@jonathanc3001

5 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠@@jaygarcia6338there’s supposed to be conflict so that a middle ground is reached. Conflict does not mean flawed.

@SurvivingAnotherDay

5 ай бұрын

@@jonathanc3001wrong. Authoritarian communism is the only solution to this countries problems.

i really did not expect to watch the whole video, but the way you tell this story is so enticing. it’s not flashy or too exciting, but it really holds on to your attention and is concise and well comunicated.

@premodernist_history

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Anybody can learn history but not everyone can lecture like this guy

@MystikalDemon

9 ай бұрын

that's a bar

@SLVYER1

6 ай бұрын

Think about choosing the giant cannibal man with wooden teeth, over educated scholars. God bless America.

@Seiddac1776

6 ай бұрын

Extreme knowledge being displayed. Can’t be done without him having a full grasp of this entire era. He’s awesome

@Unknown-jt1jo

5 ай бұрын

According to his bio, he's taught at the university level for a decade. He also did his PhD, during which he probably also taught some classes. He has a lot of experience.

@TheRealWattLife

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately no there are very few people who truly understand history.

This video is a testament to the fact that interesting history clearly and competently told is more than enough to hold an audience’s attention. No jokes, gimmicks or jump cuts, just concise storytelling. I love it.

@haamulubechooka6908

Жыл бұрын

Precisely 👏

@exisfohdr3904

Жыл бұрын

Precisely, storytelling. Storytelling 101: Tell a story to influence the thoughts of others in an effort to impact a specific social/political behavior. Clear biases were definitely demonstrated, although some would see them only as subtle. For something that happened that long ago, there were too many projected insights into the "feelings" of the described persons. I'm pretty sure I didn't see any reference to any documents verifying fears. I am also pretty sure no one alive today was alive back then as well. I'm not saying specific events didn't happen, or that things didn't happen specific ways. I'm just pointing out the underlying faults of storytelling.

@MarkHalberstram

Жыл бұрын

@@exisfohdr3904 Sure, but all history is storytelling. Historians make inferences based on incomplete knowledge and, where they place the events in a greater context, their own prejudices seep into the process as well. But I don’t think that’s necessarily cynical, certainly not in this instance, or makes history generally any less important or enjoyable to learn about.

@exisfohdr3904

Жыл бұрын

@Marcus Halberstram the more enjoyable or entertaining something is, the more embellishments were likely used; making the overall experience less about knowledge, and more about influence.

@MarkHalberstram

Жыл бұрын

@@exisfohdr3904 There comes a point where you’re so committed to pure historic information that even engaging with historians is pointless and you should just consult primary sources.

I am an American and I found this fascinating to think of the colonies as separate countries

@Unknown-jt1jo

5 ай бұрын

They were still united under the Articles of Confederation, but it was a very weak association.

@debbiewilson9712

3 ай бұрын

Like Africa. That's the closest I can think it being like

@lachesachairulanam9137

2 ай бұрын

​​@@debbiewilson9712 I think EU or ASEAN, but ASEAN doesn't have any joint military agreement.

@artofthepossible7329

2 ай бұрын

You can thank the 1860s for that.

@klaytone6105

25 күн бұрын

You must live up north

As an Austrian, this was quite interesting and enjoyable. I'm still startled by the fact that Mozart completed over 40 symphonies before the US had an elected president though, I never looked at it with that perspective. Shows again how young the US actually is ...

@zionismisterrorism8716

7 ай бұрын

The US has the longest serving government. Other countries like Austria kept getting occupied or revolutions.

@seewhativescene

7 ай бұрын

10 of the first 12 Presidents owned enslaved human beings- including Washington ​@@zionismisterrorism8716

@seewhativescene

7 ай бұрын

US declared freedom from Britain in 1776- didn't "abolish" Slavery until 1865- nearly 100 yrs ​@@zionismisterrorism8716

@jonathanmccann1343

7 ай бұрын

To us Mozart seems like ancient history, the age of your nation molds your perspective

@urphakeandgey6308

6 ай бұрын

The whole "USA is very young" is kind of misleading, but it depends how you count the age of a nation. If you count from when the current government took power, most European nations would technically be super young. Some not even 100 years old. Problem is, no European (let alone most people) would count it like that. Although, the USA never had this issue as someone pointed out. I also think the whole "Americans have no culture" thing is misleading too. I'm sure someone will laugh at this example, but American Football is an American cultural phenomenon. Almost no one else in the world cares about it, yet there are Americans of all ethnicities that watch that stuff religiously. How can you deny that as a cultural phenomenon? Americans also heavily "Americanize" imported foods. I find it funny when people complain about Americans "having no culture," but then in the same breath whinge about how we're "doing it wrong." Yeah... Because it's American now. Just look at "Chinese Food" and pizza. It's a bit ridiculous to deny that as part of American culture now when it has been so heavily modified to the American palette. I think Europeans just like to deny aspects of American culture because we don't observe it in a traditional way like they do. It seems fair to say American culture is lacking in traditions, but not culture. At least IMHO.

The way he seems legitimately devastated for John Adams not getting as many votes as he thought he would 😂

@whittneykelly7220

Жыл бұрын

I maintain that John Adams, even perhaps over George Washington, was the sole founding father who truly "got" that the US Constitution and our democracy were finite and who truly spent most of his life attempting to reason his way into a better system of government than the one his family left in England and that he helped create here. I'm devastated for him too!

@noneofyourbusiness747

Жыл бұрын

@@whittneykelly7220 The US constitution as finite? That would be awful. Of course we need amendments, otherwise slavery would still be legal, for example. These people could not fathom what modern society would look like, or it's requirements.

@Raydensheraj

Жыл бұрын

John Adams....I really dislike his authoritarianism concerning his legislations allowing him to imprison "critical members of the free press" and immigrants. In my unimportant opinion...his Son was the greatest gift he gave America. And of course him defending the Brits when he knew (thru his radicalized brother) how certain people would look at him as "British" apologist. But his core principle of trying to copy the British Christian Monarchy and their government make him anything but flexible or progressive. He was the original conservative that wanted Washington to be addressed as "Excellency" by the House/Senate....of course the Anti Federalists went bonkers and voted the idea down.

@busimagen

Жыл бұрын

@@Raydensheraj It was not _his_ legislation. The President doesn't create legislation, the Congress does, and they are the ones who passed the acts, and John Adams was very reluctant to sign them, and delayed, but was eventually pressured into doing so.

@kunmwas9437

Жыл бұрын

I felt for him too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I seriously love how often you mention that people today take all these events for granted.

His inauguration was just as weird, it was postponed. They made several Washington Inaugural Coat Buttons which are highly sought after. Some of them were made for the "false start" Inauguration.

@debbiewilson9712

3 ай бұрын

Wow. Very interesting

Way easier to pay attention to a lecture when the speaker isn't reading off a script, but actually knows his shit. Well done

@MostlyPonies1

Жыл бұрын

There are too many generic fact channels on KZread that have some hired host reading from a script. This channel's a nice hidden gem.

@dmtmediabrothers

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Funny how i could care less in highschool or college but this was cool to listen to.

@austin8775

Жыл бұрын

He talks so slow it sounds like he is reading a document with tiny writing

@exisfohdr3904

Жыл бұрын

Well, at least where the speaker appears to know their stuff. Often times, the more entertaining something is, the farther from the truth it is.

@Tmanaz480

Жыл бұрын

@Austin , slow compared to whom? Ben Shapiro? His pace is fine, and his enunciation is perfect so he sounds good all the way up to 2x speed.

Glad to know that politics was just as conniving, strategic, and "messy" back then as it is today. I sort of figured it had to have been, but rarely have I heard anyone go into the details like this.

@Darkfawfulx

8 ай бұрын

It goes even further, all the way to Rome.

@konstantincvetanovic5357

7 ай бұрын

Yes always messy and strategic. But not always as corrupt as today.

@TwixtheWizard

7 ай бұрын

Whatever you do don't look at a collection of German and Italian states that existed between 962 and 1806

@seewhativescene

7 ай бұрын

​He owned slaves, former President trump declared war on half the citizens @@konstantincvetanovic5357

@seewhativescene

7 ай бұрын

That has NOTHING at all to do with AMERICAN HISTORY, read the room ​@@TwixtheWizard

This is perhaps the finest video I have seen describing the "birthing pains" of the American electoral college. Aside from being amazingly concise and informative, this dude has an excellent radio voice.

Man I just gotta say you make the highest quality historical content on KZread I've seen so far. Never stop!

It's so interesting to hear about "strategic voting" in 1789 because we, as Americans, still do it today in some form during the primaries. Thanks for the great video.

@premodernist_history

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, when I was working on the video I kept thinking how modern all of this sounds.

@bswearer

Жыл бұрын

There was a lot of strategy in the 1800 Election, particularly by the "Democratic-Republicans" (aka Jeffersonians aka Anti-Federalists... I find "anti-administration" most accurate) and especially when it came to exploiting the Electoral appointment systems in the states. Madison and Monroe were key influencers in the push for states to move away from district voting to legislatures appointing block slates, essentially "party" winner-take-all. That way they could maximize majorities, for instance getting all pro-Jefferson Electors in VA and essentially disenfranchising regional Federalist minorities who would previously at least get a couple of Federalist Electors. In fairness, Madison and Monroe saw this vulnerability illustrated in a couple of New England states (though not originally intended for such exploitative aims) and realized how effective it would become to securing a Jefferson win in 1800. Granted, there were still massive controversies in SC and GA, which to some extent had Adams "cheated" out of being reelected. But hey, we got Louisiana, the British got our debt, and the French (really, Europeans in general) got their decade of wars financed. Nothing new under the sun...

@wildfire9280

Жыл бұрын

If only they had single transferable vote back in 1789.

@orionsghost9511

Жыл бұрын

Definitely sounds like the roots of rigged voting.

@nathanlevesque7812

Жыл бұрын

political sabotage is an American tradition

As an American and History enthusiast I was surprised by how little I knew about this time period. Thank you for the very informative and enjoyable video.

@premodernist_history

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.

@jhonwask

Жыл бұрын

I, as well was surprised and intrigued.

@ke11yke11z

Жыл бұрын

Hamilton at his finest ☺️

@notaraven

Жыл бұрын

I remember a passing mention from history class that the vice presidents were the runner ups but never on how much of a mess this was. The strategy and almost conspiratorial efforts to win this election is also quite fascinating.

@ke11yke11z

Жыл бұрын

@Alan Hagerty I agree with Jefferson. I'm grateful that the runner-up is not automatically the vice president. The president has to work with the vice president. If the president has a say in who they're working with there's more of a propensity for the president to work more effectively with the vice president

Excellent presentation and an aid to my studies on American history . Thank You .

I am blown away. Thank you so much for this video.

I like this guy’s style. No bias. Just straight history

@pewpewpandas9203

Жыл бұрын

Boom: False. All history is biased. Even when people are trying their best to be objective, they still determine which sources to use (and which not to) and how to tell the story. Some tellings are obviously more biased than others, but you should always be aware of and look for bias.

@pewpewpandas9203

Жыл бұрын

@@brianboisguilbert6985 Lol yeah, cuz that's just called being a good historian

@dougo753

Жыл бұрын

@@brianboisguilbert6985 exactly, he could have gone on a rant about how only white men could vote at that time, but he stuck to the main facts of consequence to the very first election alone.

@endokrin7897

Жыл бұрын

This is the first video of this gentleman's that I've seen, and I've subscribed. I can't STAND history that's told with a(n) (obvious) bias. Of course, some will say that there is ALWAYS bias, but this guy does a good job of just the facts. Had he talked about white men and landowners having the vote, it would open up the door for bias, especially in the comments. Anyways, this video was more than informative enough without getting into details like who had the right to vote. Not everything needs to be marinated in social causes. And my mentioning of social causes doesn't mean I lean one way or another. I just want to learn without being exposed to opinions! I'll form my own options soon enough

@joshcarter137

Жыл бұрын

@@dougo753 objective history is multifaceted and layered. The “facts of consequence” should include the realities of all people. It was consequential that the people who were allowed to voice their opinion were exclusively only white men, just as it was consequential who was NOT included. All of the information included in this video is legitimate, but that doesn’t mean that this video captures every consequential detail. The real world is way too complex for that! Race and gender and class warfare are useful lenses through which to study history for many reasons, one of which is that they can be a great way to study how power maintains itself in our societies. Could be worth exploring, anyway!

In the recently released "The Dawn of Everything", Graeber and Wengrow emphasize that, looking back from the present, historical events seem to us as sort of inevitable. They urge us to think differently, to think about the roads not taken or about what might have been. Videos like this show us that idea in action: nowadays, the US constitution seems for a lot of people like it was "manifest destiny" from the start. Nothing farther from the truth, as you have so clearly explained. Thank you for this effort.

@TBFSJjunior

Жыл бұрын

One reason why I like alternative history channels here on yt

@kaleb749

Жыл бұрын

Very very true! It really puts things like current labor movements into a new light

@ReflectedMiles

Жыл бұрын

It also gives one pause to think of whether Americans really would have wanted the results of a United States with a structure that looked much more like the EU does now, and how many states would have done their own version of Brexit at some point through history, leaving who-knows-how-much destruction of cooperation and common identity in their wake.

@johnny14980

Жыл бұрын

Very great point and I think about this a lot. Kinda like how he mentioned that NY didn't come to a consensus in time for the vote. What a disaster! lol. obviously wasn't supposed to happen and honestly, if I was a part of that I would've been doubting if this whole "United States" thing is gonna work. We definitely need to reframe our thinking when it comes to this stuff because it was just a bunch of regular ass dudes (extraordinary and intelligent, but regular nonetheless) that came up with all of this. And people that take huge risks today, not knowing if they'll work or not, will be regarded also as just "how things went down", even though it'll only be because they chose to do things their way.

@LazySillyDog

Жыл бұрын

Imagine the country today without a inflated federal government. Turns out they were right about what would happen 🤷‍♂️

That was really great- you presented the material so clearly. Thank you & I hope you do more of these in the future.

I'm absolutely fascinated with your channel. An instant favorite indeed. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

I'm a Scotsman and find this fascinating. I'm hoping that we can escape the tyranny of the British some day also.

@hazeluzzell

Жыл бұрын

Tyranny is a bit strong…

@nickxii

Жыл бұрын

I'm an Englishman & I also hope to evade the tyranny of the British gov, we need a total overhaul the people should represent us not these posh mfs and tbf the royals have no place in modern society either

@InfinitePlain

Жыл бұрын

As a Scotsman you should know what British means.

@nickxii

Жыл бұрын

@@InfinitePlain please enlighten me

@NeillWylie

Жыл бұрын

@@InfinitePlain The best part of you run down the crack of your mothers rear and ended up as a brown stain on the mattress. Let me explain to you why this is the case. Here is the definition of "British" right form a book called the dictionary. If you were aware of this book, you'd appear less of a "reprobate" which can also be found in the same book. See number 2. British adjective 1. relating to Great Britain or the United Kingdom, or to its people or language. "the British government" 2. of the British Commonwealth or (formerly) the British Empire.

6:30 Thank you for putting Longtudinal History events onto your timeline. Seeing worldwide historical events really puts history into context and makes it so much more vivid.

Great video, thank you for posting this.

Just discovered your channel. Two periods in history that fascinate me: The American Revolution & the founding of the US Constitution and WW2. Thank you for this video. Looking forward to learning more.

I always read that Washington got 100% of the vote, but I didn’t know our system was so wild before the 12th amendment. This video makes me understand why the Election of 1824 was so chaotic

@TheRenegade...

Жыл бұрын

That was because there were too many candidates for one to get a majority, not because there was fear of the wrong person becoming president

@pjabrony8280

Жыл бұрын

1824 was after the 12th Amendment.

@SwayPromo

Жыл бұрын

It’s still wild 😂

@Rob_Enhoud

Жыл бұрын

I recall being taught something similar, with Washington winning every state in the nation. This is only partially true with 3 exceptions. New York didn't vote for any candidate, Washington tied with John Jay in Delaware, and Washington tied with Robert Harrison in Maryland. Unlike today where most states have a winner take all election where their electors vote for the same candidate, the state electors not only could vote for different candidates, they almost needed to vote differently for the system to work.

@pjabrony8280

Жыл бұрын

@@Rob_Enhoud In 1792, Washington did win every state in the nation, which by then was 15 (Vermont and Kentucky had been admitted).

1789 was a revolutionary time in history. Something like a republic with early democratic features hadn’t really been done before at this large a scale. There was a lot of debate that lead to the system that we have. The Federalist papers and Antifederalist papers are where we can trace the concepts for the constitution and bill of rights.

@premodernist_history

Жыл бұрын

It was a crazy time. They were definitely in uncharted waters.

@stupideunuchs6513

Жыл бұрын

Do you have proof.

@thejustifier6602

Жыл бұрын

@@stupideunuchs6513 there are no federalist papers obviously

@sabin97

Жыл бұрын

not exactly at that large of a scale, but it was already done at a very large scale, by thte previous empire. yes i mean the roman empire. of course the usakistani empire has both more people and more territory, but the roman empire was also pretty large and populated. and it was the first democracy. the system you have was acceptable for the time in which it was conceived. today it's extremely flawed. it allows for 22% of the population to impose their will on 78% of the population.

@uncommon_name9337

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention that they saw a really bad example with what was happening in revolutionary France at the time, they wanted to avoid fucking it up.

Thank you for your videos, Perfect balance of pace, detail, graphics. Really enjoyable!

So glad I discovered this no nonsense channel. You are very informative sir!

@premodernist_history

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@neli.a

Жыл бұрын

@@premodernist_history Now let’s do a history of the Bill of Rights ( 12 were ratified, but oops only 10 filed? ) Many Americans have no points of reference, history of the drafts or the compromises that framers were forced to make.

As a history teacher currently covering the new republic-era of the United States, this video was very timely! I teach about how different the Electoral College voting system was before the 12th amendment, but never really thought about how the system led to the strategic voting that you talk about in this video! I especially didn't think about how the system affected the candidates, particularly how throw-away votes hurt John Adams' feelings! Thank you for such a thought-provoking video--looking forward to the follow-up!

@josephmastroianni1560

Жыл бұрын

Work for Boston media starts Monday. 1 man called us an enemy 2.24.17. Media. It started a revolution. I'm just a regular person in Boston media. Quincy Ma. City of PRESIDENTS #Boston2024

@nicolethompson8613

Жыл бұрын

The HBO John Adams series does a nice job of showing his heartbreak from that election.

@bigpimpmoneyjuice

Жыл бұрын

It also kinda demonstrates the ranked choice voting scheme weakness in how strategic voting can impact those results

@Delgen1951

Жыл бұрын

@@bigpimpmoneyjuice yelp

This was amazing. Please make many more!

Excellent and thank you for the citations that is a rare thing to see but it certainly well meet!

Australian here, and made it to the end. I think American elections and American politics are fascinating because of just how weird they are. You guys do it differently to everybody else, and there always seems to be some kind of intrigue involved. You're the oldest of the "modern" democracies, a category that Australia also fits into, so it's interesting to see how things were done before there were other, similar nations to base things on. It was all really innovative and new.

@ziloj-perezivat

Жыл бұрын

@The Joker Nobody cars.

@colinbisasky1134

Жыл бұрын

An Aussie gave me a good run down on your system. He was at the time a senator's aid/staffer/whatever you would call him. It's interesting you're parliamentary like UK/Canada, but with a few important features borrowed from the US constitution (but without adopting presidential democracy in any way). Like the Senate being equal among the states, having only part of it elected at a time; and it seems to have some power to check the government a bit, that the Senate of Canada and the UK House of Lords do not possess. This is, of course, assuming I understood him correctly.

@Pushing_Pixels

Жыл бұрын

@@colinbisasky1134 Yes. Our constitution was formed in the late 19th century, and only came into force in 1901. So the framers of our constitution had the benefit of having multiple examples of different systems we could base it on. In the end we chose a hybrid system, with our lower house based on the UK's House of Commons, and our Senate based on the US Senate. Like the US we are a federation of constituent states, so states rights was a consideration. Like the US we ended up with unequal representation in the Senate, with less populated states having the same number of Senators (giving voters in those states disproportionate power compared to other voters).

@onewordhereonewordthere6975

7 ай бұрын

If this tax deduction the Aussies and Rebel s both have, isn't at least queer 😏 501 C 3 . NON PROFIT. 🤔 THE WORLD IS RAN BY EVIL ! MOST CAN'T GRASP ✔️🔚

@Haveyouseenmymom

6 ай бұрын

Cubone xD

As a Swede, this is fascinating. It’s quite the long process too. America is always very grand about things I feel

@sabin97

Жыл бұрын

if you love america, you will love this. america isnt just usakistan. it's everything from alaska to tierra del fuego and nearby archipielagos. it's far more diverse than you might imagine.

@texmj123

Жыл бұрын

@@sabin97 I'm pretty sure he means America as in the country United States of America. Not the continent

@mirzaahmed6589

Жыл бұрын

@@sabin97 just let it go.

@mirzaahmed6589

Жыл бұрын

It's not "grand", it just makes sure all viewpoints are listened to.

@sideofguac

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha, I think I see where you're coming from, and am similarly amused. The irony of how we put on airs of being unpretentious in this way. And then the balloon banners and marching bands come out. Like, it couldn't just be an unceremonious collective clerical task. No, we need a GRAND COMMITTEE to meet, and then an EVEN GRANDER COMMITTEE formed from all of those, and a STILL GRANDER CONGLOMERATE OF COMMITTEES and nerdy old dudes in powdered wigs get all hot and bothered over it and need to step out for some air before they swoon at all the grandiosity

Please do more videos on American history, I'm obsessed with the way you present and format your lectures!

I learned more about elections in the first five minutes of this video than I did through high school.

@lynnwoodcarter3486

Жыл бұрын

Did u know the 13 colonies were in fact brown aka African Americans

@teenietiff19

Жыл бұрын

@@lynnwoodcarter3486 I have not. But I am enjoying learning actual history as opposed to the whitewashed way we learned about it in schools. And passing that knowledge on.

@jonathanc3001

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you didn’t pay much attention in high school then

@jonathanc3001

Жыл бұрын

@@lynnwoodcarter3486what are you even trying to say? Lol

@teenietiff19

Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanc3001 I graduated with a 3.7 gpa I think I paid plenty of attention. Lmao.

It's always interesting to me when history is presented in an in-depth way like this; it shows that many of the problems we're dealing with in the present day, have been problems since their inception.

@cedricknarsiso4044

Жыл бұрын

I've always Said this to friends that disagree with the way elections work here "it's a bug it's a feature"

@davidturoff8017

Жыл бұрын

Many of the problems are baked into the cake of tyranny. Check out article 1 section 8, the commerce clause, the general welfare clause. We the people didn’t have a say in the acceptance of the BS. It’s always been about them, the ruling class.

Wow! Just came across your video today and I'm impressed with your information, but also how well you presented it. New subscriber! Thank you!

Loved watching this and learned a lot.

I love your style of explanation. You speak so clearly and plainly, and even define certain terms that other educators might take for granted. You made me realize that, while I had a fuzzy idea of who the framers were, I couldn't actually describe it clearly until you spelled it out. Very accessible presentation, while also diving deep into the history and logistics of the election! Quite enjoyed this, your casual, layman's tone mixed with your unmistakable knowledge and familiarity with the topic makes for a great video!

@ChristopherNFP

Жыл бұрын

Your clarity of speaking is fantastic. Please dont change it. You articulate each word clearly. The speed of delivery is perfect.

This content makes me so happy. No theme songs, no jokes or thrills, just a guy with a great voice giving me great historical information. Thank you so much!!!

@ay9240

Жыл бұрын

Sus

Thank you for this

Thank you for sharing. :)

It's really sad that a lot of Americans don't know about the Confederation-era and that America was a sort of EU-esque collection of states after 1776. As an American, it's pretty humbling to realize that the Constitution and our Framers' ideas for the national government was made essentially by throwing stuff at a wall and seeing what stuck.

@bswearer

Жыл бұрын

A confederation of states, which would still accurately be classified as a nation or country. The USA was founded in 1776 and henceforth has remained the USA, albeit with various alterations in the form of governance over its developmental evolution.

@daniellenm395

Жыл бұрын

Anyone who paid attention in their high school government class will have a basic idea of all this. Problem is, most kids didn’t

@bradenharris8718

Жыл бұрын

In a recent study, 1 in 6 American teenagers couldn't name the first president of the United States. More than 50% of the teenagers who didn't know guessed that Abraham Lincoln was the first president. Those same teenagers when asked about Abraham Lincoln didn't know WHY Abraham Lincoln was such an important president and what he did but they knew he had a statue and they had heard of him so ergo he must be the first president. They ALSO thought that Black Americans were "freed" during the civil rights era of the 1960s and THAT'S what they thought the civil rights movement was about. Not equal rights, not to stop segregation, no???mmmmmmn bbb hbut Freedom from slavery. They thought that Americans still had slaves in the 1960s. That should be all the information anyone needs about the current state of America and it's education system.

@bruhism173

Жыл бұрын

Funny enough that's how its gonna be during the 2nd Big funni

@bruhism173

Жыл бұрын

@@bradenharris8718 goddamn, it seems I'm more educated than most Americans, and it was all self taught, literally 0 of it was taught to me by the school and I had go out of my way to defy the schools to keep studying history and got introuble for it, I don't regret it at all, George Washington Gang.

This was super fun! It’s jaw-dropping to discover how much of my nation’s history is never taught, and just how much historical context hindsight bias has wiped from our textbooks and brains.

@nannettehuffman8397

Жыл бұрын

And he did this in 20 minutes! Lol

@rpraetor

Жыл бұрын

Wait until you learn just how much of it was a compromise to maintain slavery!

@koolademasta

Жыл бұрын

They did teach this in public school, but unfortunatly a lot of people sleep through it lol! My wife knows nothing about the Alamo and we live in San Antonio.... and I'm like THEY TAUGHT US THIS!! ha, some people just don't care to learn history, but prefer other subjects

@gushernandez25

Жыл бұрын

One thing that is never taught is to discover and learn outside of class.

@samsonsoturian6013

Жыл бұрын

We like to pretend our democracy an ideology rather than just a historic accident that was idolized.

Great work, as always!

well done 👍 easy to understand and straight to the points that matter 💜

As a Brazilian concerned with election logistics in general, and Brazilian elections in particular, besides being interested in history, I came to the end of the video thinking that we have a lot to learn from how things were done in the past and elsewhere.

@Cjnw

Жыл бұрын

Let's hope that you win the next FIFA World Cup!

@einzelwolf3437

Жыл бұрын

Bolsanaro won

@ivanvz

Жыл бұрын

@@einzelwolf3437 He could've won. His attempt to buy out the people with last-minute social spending got him close, but it also blew up the country's budget for 2022 and 23. Like it or not, he will probably be prosecuted in the next 2-3 years and prevented from running for public office for a long time.

@ct6852

Жыл бұрын

How much of the country supported the riot?

@SkySumisu

Жыл бұрын

@@ct6852 According to a poll done six days later, 81% of the population was against it, and 18% were in favor (1% couldn't answer for sure). Even among Bolsonaro's supporters, only 37% of them were in favor of what happened. Bear in mind that this poll had N=600, so the percentages of approval may be even less, those were HIGHLY unpopular.

Most schools/textbooks simply teach that "everyone agreed Washington would be president" and move on. But there were a lot of interesting details that foreshadowed the problems with the EC and emerging party system that culminated in the disastrous election of 1800

I love cool history! Thank you for sharing. Interesting perspective, and detail. Nicely done.

Thanks for this great video.

I think this is the most succinct explanation of the first election and its results I've ever heard. Thanks for sharing this.

I recently read both Washington and Adam's biographies. Washington knew of his inescapable future. And like you stated candidate self promotion was not a norm then. About Adam's reaction. His disappointment later became the almost powerless position Vice would actually be. Enjoyed your presentation!

@LeftoverPat

Жыл бұрын

Which Biographies? I'm reading David MucCullough's Adams one now!

@artphotoscamp5788

Жыл бұрын

@@LeftoverPat that is the book. Very well done. Made me like Adam's more and Jefferson way less.

Great information and Thank you

Just came across your channel and I'm binge watching. Fantastic work. Please keep it up

Good stuff. I'd be interested to hear more about the Articles of Confederation and the eight men who preceded Waahington as head of state.

This was great. Like most people who remember their history classes from college, the first half was old news to me, but it was done concisely enough that I stayed with it for the main show, which for me were the incredible details about New York and New Hampshire and Maryland and the Anti-Federalist plot-that-wasn't. Great, great stuff.

@michaelbayer5094

Жыл бұрын

And the real conspirator and manipulator was Hamiliton. No wonder Adams distrusted him, Jefferson hated him, and Burr shot him (considering all Hamilton's scheming it seems inevitable someone would shoot him).

@conlawmeateater8792

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelbayer5094 he deserved to be shot in that duel either Aaron burr. He was a big pusher for banking too. The bank of united states during the early 1790s.

Such an excellent explanation of information & history in a very well done timeline.

Just got recommended this video. Instantly subscribed. Awesome content!

Weirder, and much, much more complicated than i thought, even being well aware that history tends to be much less tidy than we tend to think. Great content, very interesting.

I love this video so much. We have this tendency to project our current assumptions (or tbh the assumptions of historians at different points in time) onto historical time periods at the expense of the nuanced reality of the not-so-distant past. We need more content like this on KZread!!

Thank you very much for this video. I'm amazed by how much I still do not know about my own country's history and how the electoral process works. Very interesting and informative. Subscribed!!

Thank you for this channel! I started with this video and was immediately hooked. I’ve always wanted to delve deeper into what you call “premodern” history but haven’t come across any sources as approachable as this. I look forward to seeing more videos from you.

History is always more complex that you think. Thank you for sharing this.

Thank you very much for insightful information I never knew. I am thankful that youtube recommended this to me.

Thank you so much My Dear Brother…You will never be forgotten for this

You are the absolute best at this

Absolutely fascinating!!! You should definitely keep growing your KZread channel!

Excellent description of a complicated system. As a Canadian, there is much about the American system that has been confusing to me. This video cleared up much of the confusion. As was pointed out in the video, our system has Parliament elect the Executive, which in many ways means that we only have a two branch government, which gives rise to different problems. Very interesting.

@williamkrebs1212

Жыл бұрын

The Framers were motivated to solve the problems they had seen and experienced directly. They had seen the problems of a supreme legislature under the previous government (the Articles of Confederation) and wanted to give the President some degree of independent power.

@michaelchandler490

Жыл бұрын

@@williamkrebs1212 In the Canadian system, since it is the leader of the majority party that becomes the Prime Minister, the head of the Executive, and party discipline means the majority party votes as the Executive dictates, it is the Legislative branch which is extremely weak, the opposite of your problem noted above. Hence, de facto we only have two branches, the Executive and the Judiciary. Except in Minority Government situations when the Executive has to be a little more deferential to the Legislature.

@colinbisasky1134

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelchandler490 I was given a run-down on how the Aussies run their government, by no less than a guy on the staff of an actual Australian Senator. Thus, pretty close to UK and Canada, but with a few features borrowed from the US. Some people from parliamentary countries think that a singular President is "dictatorial" and a PM is more democratic. Without an offense to anyone I think it's really the other way around. the US presidential system is collegial in its own way, and Trudeau actually has some powers that would make Richard Nixon drool with envy. It's almost like, to the victor goes the spoils in Canada/UK/etc: the party that wins the majority in the House of commons gets all the power. In the US, the winner does get to govern, yes, but not without some difficulty, and still has to compromise with the minority quite often. A lobbyist who I know said that 99% of all bills int he US Congress originate with members of the House and Senate and the remaining 1% are proposed (proposed, mind you) by the President. In the UK, a Briton told me, 95% of bills that come up in the Commons are "government bills" and everything is usually vetted through the Cabinet first, else it fails. I cannot imagine a president of the US so powerful that he and/or his cabinet had the power to vet all legislation. That's not to say that the US system is in the slightest "superior" to parliamentary democracies or vice-versa. People in each country decide how to govern uniquely, and whichever constitution a country's people choose, they automatically decide to live with its flaws.

@Unknown-jt1jo

5 ай бұрын

No, you still have a three-branch government. But the executive is stronger in the US system than in a parliamentary system.

History was always boring until high school when I got a teacher who made it come alive and interesting they way you do. She also inserted tidbits of personal scandal that made them more like living people of history as opposed to just being "ho-hum" dead politicians, kings, queens, famous generals, etc. Since then I became a history buff. Thank you, Miss Crago!

🫶 the video i didn’t know i needed ! thank you for passing on this knowledge 🙏

This was great! This is a great channel! This is what kids should be watching in school. Not the crazy stuff they are watching in todays world. I would have made sure I had this guys classes as many times as possible in college. Knowledge is power. Thank you sir.

I'm Canadian and I love to teach my friends and family facts about the US and Canadian constitutions. I've read them both, and I'm not an expert on them, but I did absorb quite a bit and there are so many amazing and surprising details in them both. And when I talk to my British friends, I say, "I love the British constitution so much that I've memorized every single word of it." They pause for a moment, in thought, then they reply, "But there is no such thing as a British Constitution." And I shout out, "Aha!" Then we discuss why a constitution is a good thing. (Hint: wars have been fought in Britain over issues arising from their lack of a constitution explaining the roles of the various parts of government.)

@romankravchenko4736

Жыл бұрын

As a Ukrainian, I'd say that wars appear despite having a constitution. Especially if you rewrite them often, as here it's done (for example I prefer the first variant to a current one).

@TheNameOfJesus

Жыл бұрын

@@romankravchenko4736 Yes, I agree that a constitution won't stop a foreign invasion. But the war in Britain that I was talking about was a civil war. An internal war. That's the kind of war that won't happen with a decent constitution. Besides, the current Ukraine constitution is barely 25 years old.

@kyletaylor4489

Жыл бұрын

Doubtful Britain does have a constitution in fact arguably the first real constitution it’s called the Magna Carta

@kyletaylor4489

Жыл бұрын

In fact the US Constitution takes its semblance from the Magna Carta

@TheNameOfJesus

Жыл бұрын

@@kyletaylor4489 Are you trying to imply that the Magna Carta is a constitution? If so, you would be wrong. In fact, the Magna Carta was just a "Royal Prerogative" which is even WEAKER than a law, let alone a constitution.

This is very interesting. Thank you.

Very well done thank you

Your teaching method and presentation style is entertaining, intriguing(makes me want to keep learning), and very well presented in a manner that works for my ADHD. I feel like I can just fall into your lesson and not want to stop listening. You're a wonderful teacher. Thank you for working hard to make these videos for us!

@premodernist_history

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Love the video and it's amazing to see how differnt(how the electoral college was picked)/similar(the behind the scenes to control power) the elections were. I havent seen this much detail on elections. I would love to hear about more of the older elections of american history. Love the video. Thanks for the upload

You did a great job with this.

The entire delivery of this video is on point.

Enjoyed this. Very original in that it shows in depth a part of history that people only discuss the highlights of.

I'm honestly very hyped for another video regarding the next election. What you have explained in your video, the details about how which state chose their electors and how their individual political fighting was, is the kind of information you would never get on KZread or the Internet, "even not on Wikipedia", the information you can only find in ultra complex and deep literature. And that is amazing.

Wow, I learned so much. I find this kind of stuff very interesting. Definitely going to share this video. Keep up the great content! -Matt

First time seeing a video by this channel, very impressed, well done! Definitely subscribing, keep up the great work!!

Pretty interesting to me that the system is seemingly immediately perverted for political reasons. I thought there was at least a decade where the framers school of thought was a majority. But very good video thank you!

@justacinnamonbun8658

Жыл бұрын

I think the Federal government today has way too much power and the states should definitely be allowed the sovereignty they deserve. I mean it's basically pointless to say you're from this state or that state, really doesn't mean much, it feels like every state is the same thing.

@contentlyshane

Жыл бұрын

These were mostly rich racist slave owners, they weren’t the most morally good amongst the people back then

@dingus6076

Жыл бұрын

@@justacinnamonbun8658States are fucked too, Oregon is trying to legalize “medically assisted suicide,” for any individual wishing to seek it, but more specifically those with mental illness or financial issues, so this “medically assisted suicide,” is the nicer way of saying eugenics.

@baigandinel7956

Жыл бұрын

That doesn't sound particularly fair to the political opposition. The Constitution never required unanimous approval, and realistically people probably agreed with the "framers' school of thought" to varying degrees. It wasn't considered holy writ yet. The Framers anticipated the persistence of political differences.

@William-the-Guy

Жыл бұрын

Social Studies teacher here. I would suggest your view of "perverted for political reasons" is an inaccurate way to look at this. This is a political system creates for political purposes. It's not really possible to have a political system that is not "perverted for political purposes "

This was fantastic! Please keep the content coming.. My 7 great grandfather (John Adams) is someone I love to learn more about!

I've been watching your channel since that time traveling checklist for the medieval period. This one was fascinating and gave so much insight to things I hadn't seen considered. I thought it was just a simple 100% vote from the electoral college to elect Washington but this shows so much more of the story. I love the small details such as the scheme to make sure John Adams wasn't accidentally elected. It is comical to see just how human the founding fathers were and how many mistakes they made. My favorite part was when New York missed the deadline to vote due to the disagreement on how they should vote. It's just funny to think how loosely structured the government really was at the very start of our country compared to where it is today.

Very informative, thank you for the video.

Great video! It taught me a lot of things I didn't know about. I'm not an American, but my parents instilled in me a love of all things political and historical. Thank you for your dedication, and for sharing your knowledge!

Very well done. I crave this kind of content. I hope you create regularly.

You make very good videos, thank you for taking the time to create this.

This is a really fantastic video. Great job.

I loved the way this was detailed and informative without any info that didnt need to be there. Honestly i thought this would have been one of those older videos that got tons of views but I was definitely wrong. You deserve more attention if you produce these types of videos.

Great video! Graphics are perfect, not over done, and the information is concise.

Interesting. Thank you for sharing

Thank you for this video. I was unaware of the initial way electors voted for both President and Vice Presidents were chosen! I thought I had a well rounded understanding of how our government was developed and agreed to! Nice to learn new information.😊

The real tragedy is that today most people have absolutely no idea how voting for the President and Vice President work. Your explanation was top notch.

@baigandinel7956

Жыл бұрын

It seems like a long time ago it was decided that the electoral vote for the Vice President would be pro forma. It is not supposed to be the President who chooses the Vice President. We sometimes end up with Vice Presidents who would never have been elected, such as Cheney or Harris.

@doctorcrafts

Жыл бұрын

Tragedy? Lol

@Outwardpd

Жыл бұрын

Most people definitely know about the electoral college lol what is with people in this comment section getting an ego thinking that they are 'above average' because they watched a few minute video?

@absalomdraconis

Жыл бұрын

@@baigandinel7956 : That's because the Vice Presidency became too conflated with the Presidency, when it was effectively a continuation of the pre-Constitution "President of the Congress".

@absalomdraconis

Жыл бұрын

People do understand how presidential elections work, they just don't work the way they're supposed to. They're supposed to effectively be negotiations between the Electors (who would be better termed Negotiators, but it was in keeping with the Holy Roman Empire's use of the word), but the insertion of the political parties by Jefferson and Adams deformed the system so much that it's now just a majority vote with weird vote multipliers.

Wow. I am lucky to have happened across your channel. Loved every video and hate that there are not thousands for me to binge. I just learned more in the last few hours than I did in my high school history class