The Eldritch Whisperer: d4
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Our D&D 5e character build this week is an attempt to take something I hate, The War Caster feat, and turn it into something I love. While simultaneously firing, like, 5,000 beams of Eldritch Blast :).
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Levels 7-9:(33:13)
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I said this in the video but edited it out due to length. Should have left it in! For those saying you can't use Eldritch Blast with War Caster because it can potentially target multiple enemies, I offer exhibit A: "The 3rd benefit of War Caster requires you to target only the moving creature. Eldritch blast works as long as all the beams target it." twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/908469121502736384?lang=en Also, Errata: Ranged attacks aren't made with disadvantage if the enemy is incapacitated, so we *would* have advantage still if using Hold Monster, as Paralyze incapacitates :).
@Jp138233
Жыл бұрын
Yep. The wording is very specifically different from the wording of Twinned Spell’s requirement of being entirely unable to target multiple creatures
@shorsetheoneandonly2095
Жыл бұрын
Different kind of question, is hex worth it over darkness at early levels since it could give disadvantage to wisdom for dissonant whispers
@Synetik
Жыл бұрын
@@shorsetheoneandonly2095 Hex gives disadvantage on checks not saves.
@theonlymatthew.l
Жыл бұрын
Just a thought, u should Pin this comment so it stays at the top of the comment section
@DnDDeepDive
Жыл бұрын
@@shorsetheoneandonly2095 alas - it wouldn’t affect Wisdom saves only Ability checks 😢
I love the idea of another character asking the warlock what the whip is for since the warlock never actually attacks with it.
@DnDDeepDive
Жыл бұрын
Coolness factor, obviously. Big Indiana Jones fan.
@bigaj6901
Жыл бұрын
@@DnDDeepDive *pulls out gun and shoots swordsman Edit: the gun is EB
@DnDDeepDive
Жыл бұрын
@@bigaj6901 rofl
@Crestlinger2
Жыл бұрын
'For Role Play'
@fishiefish6179
Жыл бұрын
@@Crestlinger2 oh shit that’s a good one 😂
We have the rule at our table that goo warlocks are allowed to use awakened mind for verbal components, so only your target hears you cast
@dracodominus2800
Жыл бұрын
I love this. It's sooooo sinister
@knightghaleon
Жыл бұрын
Oh that’s great flavoring. Imagine your buddies not hearing that a fireball is being cast and you the target don’t have magic to counter spell it. Ouch.
@nathanfivecoate5848
Жыл бұрын
@@knightghaleonGOO locks don't get fireball
@siragon756
10 ай бұрын
Sorcerer multiclass@@nathanfivecoate5848
@lancey_1680
10 ай бұрын
@@nathanfivecoate5848You could multiclass to get it, or use a similar spell like hunger of hadar. He was giving an example of a cool situation. No need to be so nitpicky.
Spellcasters all have ziplock bags full of the appropriate amount of each spell's materials carefully measured for easy access.
I can already tell we'll have a blast with this build.
@martingoldschmid
Жыл бұрын
I shouldn't laugh.. haha
@CharalamposKoundourakis
Жыл бұрын
Hehe
@WexMajor82
Жыл бұрын
Badum, tssss
@Rose_Harmonic
Жыл бұрын
Several, even.
@Jw87563
8 ай бұрын
Ba dum tss!
I always thought a good concept for a Goolock was the idea that "Dwarves always dig too deep", maybe customized origin (for that feat), a dwarven miner that encounters mindflayers in the deep underdark. Bald, with a massive scar around his head from brain removal and his beard ghostly tentacles instead of bristles. What madness has he survived, whose brain now dwells in his cranium?
@DerrickBarrows
Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this idea!!!!
@samuelbroad11
Жыл бұрын
@@DerrickBarrows chur bro! feel free to use it and add more ideas, how deep can the dwarves go? all the way to the 9 layers of hell?
@user-xp7ff2hr3e
Жыл бұрын
I love this so much!!!!
@samuelbroad11
Жыл бұрын
@@user-xp7ff2hr3e chur!
@mystic1029
Жыл бұрын
Duergar is definitely the dwarf race to use for this
I love Tuesdays because of this
@RK9th
Жыл бұрын
This is literally the highlight of my Tuesdays at work
@k0pstl939
Жыл бұрын
Theres a schedule!?
@jeffnosdivad3080
Жыл бұрын
@@k0pstl939 Every Tuesday!
@JudeCranberry
Жыл бұрын
Same, Tuesdays are when I start work, so they used to be my mondays, now they’re awesome
@almadayoung4082
Жыл бұрын
I feel ya. I got laid off yesterday and this helped a lot.
I've always thought of material component pouches to be a well organized belt with dozens of accessible pockets so a caster can quickly grab what they're looking for by muscle memory
@CaioLGon
Жыл бұрын
For me is something like Goblin’s Slayer Pouch. Organized with a bunch of little bags with notch codes for tactile ID with all material components for the spell inside.
@JayskaTeag
Жыл бұрын
My head canon is now that spell component pouches are basically Batman's utility belt
@donalddouds6033
Жыл бұрын
@@JayskaTeag or a speed rack for a bartender
The Eldritch Whisperer: d4 #113 Level 1:(see above) [warlock 1, patron & race] Level 2:(see above) [warlock 2 & eldritch invocations] Level 3:(@19:39) [warlock 3 & sub-class] Level 4:(@22:25) [warlock 4 & ASI] Level 5:(@25:58) [fighter 1 & fighting-style] Level 6:(@28:19) [fighter 2] Level 7:(see above) [warlock 5] Level 8:(@36:35) [warlock 6] Level 9:(@37:10) [warlock 7] Level 10:(see above) [warlock 8 & ASI] Level 11:(@40:02) [warlock 9] Level 12:(@43:53) [sorcerer 1 & sub-class] Level 13:(@47:36) [sorcerer 2] Level 14:(see above) [sorcerer 3] Level 15:(@53:01) [sorcerer 4 & ASI] Level 16:(@53:16) [sorcerer 5] Level 17:(@53:34) [sorcerer 6]
Dissonant whispers is SUCH an amazing spell. Just has so many things going for it.
I’ve allowed features that are typically activated on a bonus action to be used as action since for many years. It started after the first 5e Eberron sourcebook was released and I had a shifter barb at my table that wanted to rage and shift in the same turn. Seemed fine to me and I’ve yet to run into any problems all these years later
If you keep adding to your spreadsheets, they might become a Great Old One due to all the vast forbidden knowledge contained within
@caffeinedreams5827
Жыл бұрын
Spaghetti Code becomes Flying Spaghetti Monster
Another build that uses a whip? The Great Pumpkin has heard my prayer!🎃
41:45 Big Hold Monster Buff (and Shadow of moil buff potentially) that you didn't get into... So you know, you do not have disadvantage on ranged attacks with an enemy within 5 feet if they are incapacitated (paralyzed means incapacitated as well) or cannot see you (Heavily obscured/invisible). "Ranged Attacks in Close Combat" Section of PHB is where it is detailed!
@DnDDeepDive
Жыл бұрын
truth! pinned an errata comment on this.
I really like the preambles on these videos. They help build anticipation, as well as appreciation for your thought process behind the build. Plus, it's more time to enjoy the -ASMR- sound of your voice.
Ordercleric allows you to, at lvl 6 cast an enchsntment spell as a bonus action. This means dissonant whispers, which you can get from fey touched, combined with thornwhip and spiritguardians is pretty cool
@torunsmok5890
Жыл бұрын
alternatively mix it with this build to make this same idea, slightly lower damage perhaps, but way higher reliability. suddenly you get amazing nova and amazing sustain at the same time
@undeadamerican1107
Жыл бұрын
Yeah even without Order cleric, fey touched alone to get dissonant whispers seems much better than going into bard for it.
Good timing! I'm just about to finish Treantmonks video from today. A solid 1hour 20minutes of D&D content!
@darkestlight660
Жыл бұрын
saaaame
@k2k4
Жыл бұрын
Literally the same here lol
For what it’s worth (in reference to your introductions), I really do feel welcome to this channel. Each build has great research and insight, while maintaining the emphasis on “this just A way, not THE way”. I’ve referenced multiple builds from this channel when exploring builds of my own, and I sincerely appreciate what you do here. Thanks Colby!
because im nocturnal, episodes always come out like an hour before i end up going to sleep. always nice to listen to while i drift off
I have this "if you build for it" moment every time I think of a new character concept and rewatch your vidéos to get some ideas about how to make it work 😄
I love the preamble! The theorycrafting and the backstory ideas you give are great
Absolutely love this build, I would 100% flavor the blasts as being extensions of the whip.
@CharalamposKoundourakis
Жыл бұрын
That's a perfect idea. Just a whip that expands hundreds of feet.
Thanks for being such an entertaining and wholesome content creator, Colby!
I played a warlock built around the war caster and pole arm master feat, with a reach pole arm you can be eldritch blasting anytime someone tries to get close to you and partnered with repelling blast it was based around getting things away from it
Always love your allusions and references. Can't stop, don't stop.
I once played a character who encased spell components in glass to preserve them. It's the only time I've used glassblower's tools, but I loved it!
I absolutely love that this build was made! I remember requesting this awhile ago. Now I can make a character that can, in character, shout out the sounds of a machine gun!
Watching your vids during my lunch brake on Wednesday is one one of the best moment of the week. Thanks Cory
I just started working with opportunity attack spell casting when your short for this episode went up. You often hit the same wavelength as my theory crafting and I always love your take on the same subject.
ELDRITCH BLAST IS LIFE, ELDRITCH BLAST IS LOVE.
Hoping for Episode 117 we get a cool Spartan themed build (Masterchief ftw)
@jackrose3086
Жыл бұрын
Colby, I need a weapon.
@CharalamposKoundourakis
Жыл бұрын
Shield master?
@ElijahForLong
Жыл бұрын
Honestly probably a monk fighter
Thank you Colby; using this build me and my two other party members were able to take out a CR17 Gorisro at level 5.
I LOVE the idea of the whip as a magic wand! You crack the whip and an eldritch blast comes flying out.
Finally, a new video to watch inbetween studying 🥳
1:00:32 I love that your reaction was recorded when you realised that you can't take War Caster before you are able to cast spells. Blew my mind as well. Too bad for Paladins and Rangers.
I’m really surprised to only start hearing about the wonders of the whip from the DnD KZreadrs now. It’s literally a **one handed** reach weapon!
Another great build!
I liked when I heard 'blast of goo' and saw the art. This is going to be one of my favorites, I can tell.
I just spent hours yesterday trying to optimize a build almost exactly like this, but couldn't figure out how to put it together. I hadn't considered dissonant whispers. Luckily for me you read my mind xD
Great flavor and good build, thanks again for this gooey build
I don't know how it took me so long to find this channel. Will definitely binge your other videos.
@d4: I just wanna say that I appreciate that you are taking into account how "fun" or "good" it feels to play a character between levels 1-10, and especially 5-10. I think that it's a really important part of building an optimized character and I hope you continue to keep this in mind for future builds. I also hate the builds that only really come online at levels 12+ since it's so situational.
I knew there was a reason why I loved his characters so much and that's because I also love playing Gish characters so that's why I love this channel LOL
30:09 ~ This is SO me... Ty Colby... feel "redeemed" somehow... Thank you Master. Regards from Tabasco, México [Land of The Olmecs]!
This art is si great. Well done Rendall
I just found your channel a few days ago and I have been binging these videos over the weekend. I was having trouble on what kind of a character I should make and your videos really helped me in deciding while giving me a real in depth of what is what and why is what. You've got a sub from me . Really awesome channel
@DnDDeepDive
Жыл бұрын
Welcome and glad you’re enjoying :)
Thanks for the build! And nice trick with the whip ☺️ Oh and yes, Tuesdays rock because there's a new build from Colby 😊
Last short made me so curious about this one 😄
I was already enjoying this and then you started referencing Princess Bride. You have done this before and it always makes me happy.
Firstly, I got to hear the phrase, “Burst of GOO!”, which is wonderful. Then we discussed the virtues of tentacles. This is maybe the best start to a day since last Tuesday! You’re on a roll, my friend! 😂😊🎉❤
@Nikotheos
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely advocate reflavoring Darkness on this character as summoning a huge incorporeal slime blob that you hide inside, with moist slurping sounds, of course!
Glad to be here Colby, thanks!
Work is beating me down today... Really enjoyed listen to this I'm one ear while slogging through the non-sense... Got a bard build I might play with this concept..
I always wanted to play a very particular Wizard build I worked up where he was trained as a war mage so his component pouch is actually a bandolier-like string of pouches across his chest and he memorizes which pouch has exactly which components when he organizes it each night as part of his spell preparation.
I new it was going to be a whip once you started talking abought warcaster+ eldritch blast in the title. Thank you for the optimizing brain.
I was looking for some inspiration for a Paladin that I'm doing a radical re-spec on. This is gorgeous!
Man, never ever would I expect that I'd be even a bit excited to use A WHIP on my character. LOVE how gamechanging this little exploit is.
Great Old One Warlock was my first ever D&D Character so I'm happy to see you doing a video on it Colby! Should be interesting to see how you've built it compared to me (I went with more of a support and control playstyle with spells like Hypnotic Pattern)
Straight from Teantmonk to you! What a treat!
Very good! I'm going to use this build, with background Prismari Student for Dissonant Whisper and Undead Subclass.
Just wanted to put this here a while ago; this build inspired some great stuff at our table focused around this.
Thank you so much for this. Now I can make a whip-based warlock
"eldritch machine gun" and this is why i love this channel
Love the Video Colby. Keep up the great work.
I love 5e theory crafting. And even with One D&D coming, I still appreciate builds that I haven't considered as there is still a bit of varied content out there over the last 6 months. The recent experiment for our group is playing around the DMG's "Long Rest Variant", (basically, Short rests are now sleep/minimal activity over 8 hours and Long Rests are a week of downtime). So that change has been a great motivation for new character crafting limitations. I'm not sure if this channel has ever covered that with over 100 episodes... And yet... Still can't believe how absurdly sexy this guy's voice is to listen to for an entire DnD conversation...
I have a cleric that I made that has his holy symbol tattooed on him so the focus is literally part of him. No warcaster feat necessary. Thanks DM!
Great timing! I was just about to start a campaign as a warlock and was looking for a build.
"if you're one those people who always skips the preamble" oof man, shots fired
For the somatic gestures with the focus, i interpret it (as did 3e spells and in 3.5 if you had somatic weaponry feat) that the somatic components when holding a focus or material are done with the items (the priest swinging the censer or moving the holy symbol around to draw a holy sign, the wizard swinging the wand or staff in the air making glyphs that alter the weave, etc), not as doing air fingering while thumb gripping the object. As for the component pouch, i always saw it as a audio guys wire+mic bag or (one of the really old unsafe) chiefs knife wraps, where its essentially organized easy access pull pockets.
Correction: you only have a disadvantage on ranged attacks when an enemy who *isn't incapacitated* is within 5 feet of you. So hold monster eldritch blast for free advantage (and crit) is a working combo
RE: Scorching Ray as a reaction: I would argue that, as with most things in DnD, Specific beats General. The general rule is that if you cast a spell as a bonus action you may only cast cantrips with a casting time of one action on that turn. Warcaster introduces a specific rule that you may cast a spell that targets only that creature and has a casting time of one action instead of taking you opportunity attack. Since the two conflict with each other and Warcaster is more specific than the general rules for bonus actions, the Warcaster rule takes precedence which means you can indeed cast Eldritch Blast - Eldritch Blast - Dissonant Whispers - Scorching Ray without having to even consider whether or not it's still considered your turn.
@DKzCoolD2
Жыл бұрын
Correct. This is why the specific rule of counterspell allows you to counterspell someone counterspelling your fireball. Specific beats general.
@irwingbrasil
Жыл бұрын
scorching ray can target multiple enemies so can't be used with warcaster
@DKzCoolD2
Жыл бұрын
@@irwingbrasil incorrect. If that were the case same would be true for eldritch blast. Perhaps you can argue all beams must go to the fleeing creature, but that's about it.
@LordZeebee
Жыл бұрын
@@irwingbrasil Technically no. You're thinking of the wording for Twinned Spell, the wording for Warcaster is just "and must target only that creature". Which means as long as that creature is the only target getting effected by your spell then you're good. This was further reinforced by a Jeremy Crawford tweet posted in Nov 11th 2020.
@DnDDeepDive
Жыл бұрын
@@irwingbrasil twitter.com/jeremyecrawford/status/908469121502736384?lang=en
I have to thank you. Although not copying this build, I made a toll of the dead cleric off of your whip warcaster reaction trick. Eventually I will go spirit guardian, action dodge, and run in and use my whip reaction to toll of the dead. We'll see how it works. Might pick up sentinel as well at lvl 4. Not optimized, but fun!
D4 I am enjoying my Eldritch knight, and have used some of your tips for the campaign I am currently playing! Thanks!
@DnDDeepDive
Жыл бұрын
You're welcome - glad you're enjoying it!
The tentacle whip idea reminds me of Eberron. I think there was a similar magic item in one of the books
The house rule for our table is that you can use an action to do anything that requires a bonus action, but not the other way around. The players are happy because they have more options and freedom of choice but the DM is happy because it’s not caused any balance issues. 100% recommend 👍🏼
Spooky name! Love it!
I’d like to see you what you can pull off building a character around the catapult spell. Throwing nets or throwing vials of acid etc.
In regards to casting scorching ray as a reaction, I say yes because you can cast counterspell while casting another spell during the turn you are casting it.
@lapetitecuillereetlepaindo3005
Жыл бұрын
But not as a bonus action.
@torunsmok5890
Жыл бұрын
thats different. you can do that when you cast that other spell with your ACTION but the rule he was referencing only applies when you cast a levelled spell with your bonus action, in which cases you couldnt actually cast counterspell. the scorching ray issue was him asking if you could cast it bc your turn ends when you do your dissonant whispers spell (as in him asking if it ends there allowing the cast to work) but no, bc whispers makes them react, and reactions happen during the turn that triggered them, and you then react to their reaction, it is all still your turn in which you cast a leveled spell as a bonus action, so you CANNOT cast scorching ray there
I found your rant about not multiclassing sorcerer dripping with comical irony. I was going to congratulate you on sticking with one class and you preceed to explain you will be multiclassing to a different class hahaha
Instead of using Warcaster on a Two-weapon or sword&board gish, you can also use a Ruby of the War Mage (common magic item in Xanathar's) which will turn any weapon into a spellcasting focus. Unfortunately it does require an attunement slot though.
my last character was a GOO warlock and I just went pure warlock for flavor and RP. it was very fun.
I totally thought you'd be blasting with goo
Great video as always! Regarding the Hold Monster and being within 5 feet situation at 41:43, this is what it says in chapter 9 of the PHB: "Aiming a ranged attack is more difficult when a foe is next to you. When you make a ranged attack with a weapon, a spell, or some other means, you have disadvantage on the attack roll if you are within 5 feet of a hostile creature who can see you and who isn’t incapacitated." So if they are paralyzed, which means they are incapacitated, being within 5 feet of them wouldn't impose disadvantage on your attack rolls. I would agree that it still wouldn't be better in this situation, so this is just for future reference.
Day 1 hoping to see a DPR Arcane Trickster/Bladesinger Btw great job man, love your videos thanks for all the content ❤
@DnDDeepDive
Жыл бұрын
Thanks - on the to do list!
@HSuper_Lee
Жыл бұрын
Are counting the actual number of days or the number of videos? So will next Tuesday be day 8 or day 2?
@nickybask8116
Жыл бұрын
@@HSuper_Lee day 2 I think
@jessehowton2146
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes the DDR build. The Death Dance Revolution build. Passion is definitely an intelligence skill.
Before I watch, I'm guessing that this build is going to be an eldritch blast build that uses warcaster, polearm master, and crossbow expert to great effect! (On thr basis the short this week was about warcaster)
@JFKwentAFK_
Жыл бұрын
The idea being that polearm master let's you make an attack of opportunity with your reaction when an opponent enters your melee range (note it does not specificy what attack you can make, you just need to hold a quarterstaff), then use warcaster to cast a spell using an attack of opportunity and choose eldritch blast, and with crossbow expert your ranged attack doesn't have disadvantage even if the enemy is in melee range!!! Combine this insanity with repelling blast and every time a nasty brute walks up to you for an attack you can push them back anywhere from 10~40 ft!!! Definitely deserves an episode
@DnDDeepDive
Жыл бұрын
@@JFKwentAFK_ But so many more feats required! And you still only have one reaction per round :(.
@JFKwentAFK_
Жыл бұрын
@@DnDDeepDive Yeah it's definitely worse in the Nova damage comparison... bested again by Colby, your too smart!!!
I built a G.O.O. Warlock that was unknowingly fooled into a pact with Dendar the Night Serpent. This video GREATLY helped build a truly flavorful warlock that was both powerful and thematic
You the Bob Ross of DnD Character Creation
41:54 actually, if your target is incapacitated, as they would be from hold monster, you don’t have disadvantage on your ranged attacks within 5 feet :)
@DnDDeepDive
Жыл бұрын
Hang on... "When you make a ranged attack with a weapon, a spell, or some other means, you have disadvantage on the attack roll if you are within 5 feet of a hostile creature who can see you and who isn’t incapacitated." - Eureka! Thanks for the reminder :).
Man I love coming home
Tuesday! Time to celebrate with another trip to D&D Flavortown 🎉
About the reaction stack for Scorching Ray, I couldn't find anything official on 5e, but on older editions, that would be a reaction STACK that started INSIDE YOUR TURN, thus your turn would only end after the entire stack got resolved, so no non-cantrip cast as reaction if you used bonus action to cast a non-cantrip. Most DM's I spoke with assume the same stance as well (let's be honest, casters are already good enough even with that reading XD)
in the big damage dice example. they are sacrificing AC to have a free hand when not attacking you can do that too if you wield one weapon and no shield.
Pausing the video so I can immediately comment that I love the Monty Python reference thank you for making my day
Awakened mind or any telepathic ability + charm person and other stuff like that makes it work on a wide range of creatures.
I love the idea, I posted on the subreddit a few minutes ago listing how I would build this, basically I would go sorcerer 4, warlock 5, then just keep going sorcerer and I would use the stats saved this way and the earlier sorc levels to hit 20 charisma at level 4. This makes the build into a dpr built instead and really improves your numbers at level 9 because your get shroud way earlier. I just assume my DM will sometimes have to have enemies get within 10 ft of me where I can reaction them with edlritch blast and get 3 casts of that for tons of damage.
Beautiful Singing!! :)
This build would make an amazing bbeg
Warcasters best thing is absoloutly lighting someone up using a whip man hand and the sentinel feat.
During the time the caster uses to prepare after a long rest, he or she gathers the components for that spell together and bundles then in some object to hold them (a piece of cloth, or parchment). They then place that bundle in their component pouch. The caster uses the focus and draws the arcane symbols in the air as they are holding the bundle of components. Ta Da.
A player in my more RP-focused campaign is a GOO Warlock, and the Awakened Mind ability has come in clutch on numerous occasions - allowing us to avoid combats entirely, make more allies, and discover more information
I always use dissonant whispers strategically to get as many opportunity attacks from my allies as well. It can be a devastating spell