Seriously go read the book though

@Brandon-es8nu

7 жыл бұрын

First comment

@EmbeMamaChannel

7 жыл бұрын

It seems interesting. You inspired me to read disunited states of america, guns of the south world war Z and man in the high castle. Also how about you do a video on the lore of a diffrent flesh. Written by harry turtledove it's about what if homo sapiens never went into america, but homo erectus, and megafauna all over the world survives longer. Or down in the bottomlands about what if in the miocene period the mediterranean sea never existed, and is replaced by a sea of salt.

@Brandon-es8nu

7 жыл бұрын

second comment

@joshuaswank1885

7 жыл бұрын

Please make this a series, I'd love to hear your take on Brave New World!

@nolansthompson8984

7 жыл бұрын

Emperor Leroy Melina is not Mexican

One of the scariest part of the book for me was when one of the characters describes how people can never know about freedom or liberty if those concepts and words dont exist.

@AlejandroDeYavorsky159

2 жыл бұрын

Seems eerily similar with some groups today trying to change language in the pretext of being more "inclusive"

@iamaleftist3834

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlejandroDeYavorsky159 It is absolutely nothing like that, that is a daft comparison

@xvor_tex8577

2 жыл бұрын

@@iamaleftist3834 lmao yeah let's listen to someone called "I Am Leftist"

@iamaleftist3834

2 жыл бұрын

@@xvor_tex8577 Wow you must be so smart, imagine dismissing an entire argument based on somebody's username Question, what would your response be had my name been let's say Jim2000?

@bjnartowt

2 жыл бұрын

@@iamaleftist3834 That Jim2000 had claimed *without evidence* that "a daft comparison" had been made.

“The Obliteration of Self” Best emo band name

@yenzabar

4 жыл бұрын

More like a Buddhist death metal band

@ethansics9400

4 жыл бұрын

I bet they’d sound like pageninetynine

@MrManio1000

4 жыл бұрын

Fathers Razor

@jaysefgames1155

4 жыл бұрын

It's really on the nose

@biliminsrlar5752

4 жыл бұрын

It's basiacly a death cult,it even says that in the book.

I think the scariest part is by far newspeak. Eliminating anti-party thoughts by restricting and eliminating freethinking capability in itself

@stevious7278

Жыл бұрын

And how many concepts and words are we being conditioned to erase from our thinking in 2022? The difference is that the state does not have to use overt coercion; it is done by mobs attacking you with the accusation of bullying, racism, xenophobia, homophobia, or taking offense of an increasing number of topics. ANY topic needs to be able to be discussed in a free society; even topics we find distasteful.

@beshoyyoussef2814

Жыл бұрын

Cancel culture

@thebuilder5271

Жыл бұрын

It’s like all the new Republican dogwhistles lol

@Jmulvez

Жыл бұрын

@@thebuilder5271 retard. leftists literally want to curb the 1st amendment 😂 go read a book moron

@rustyshackleford4761

Жыл бұрын

@@thebuilder5271 what

Fun Fact: 1984 was an early inspiration for Half-Life 2, and some elements of 1984 are still present in the game as well. Like cities just referred as City XX, like with City 17. And most of the citizens barely remember their past before the Combine invaded earth.

@CZpersi

Жыл бұрын

The screens around the city also remind the Big Brother.

@TheBfutgreg

Жыл бұрын

I'm not surprised as HL2 is very "Orwellian" but this is a totally "outside" Alien Invasion story.....I'm curious why the aliens do what they do...I guess we might know but HL3 never existed....OOOFF

@OnlyMyOpinionMatters

Жыл бұрын

U r an idiot

@LMC764

11 ай бұрын

​@@TheBfutgregwe already know why they do what they do.

@vladimirrodionov5391

11 ай бұрын

I guess then they are still looking for a new inspiration for Half-Life 3!

Orwell: *Publishes 1984* "Yo, guys, totalitarianism is bad. Read this book, it'll scare you shitless." Me: "Oh my god, this is the most terrifying book I've ever read in my entire life!" Politicians: "Ooh! Look, an instruction manual!"

@99batran

6 жыл бұрын

Kai M.K. Bullock *North Korea

@red2theelectricboogaloo961

6 жыл бұрын

North Korea : oh! This is a good idea.

@denizyuksel5093

6 жыл бұрын

Kai M.K. Bullock Not really. This book is not written to make you scare, but rather to warn you.

@kobaltapollodorus8922

6 жыл бұрын

Why not both?

@taurohkea2169

6 жыл бұрын

u think nsa is not watching u?

*This video has been removed by the Thought Poilce*

@Nick-mh8uv

7 жыл бұрын

bleach drinker it's in room 101

@billanderson5580

7 жыл бұрын

genaricname69 On floor 2007

@danielrauch5526

7 жыл бұрын

bleach drinker thot police

@namingisdifficult408

7 жыл бұрын

bleach drinker it has been destroyed by Minitru

@josh52828

7 жыл бұрын

*POILCE*

Just finished the book today and it’s honestly soul crushing

@colinstewart1432

Жыл бұрын

As many have already said. Wasn't supposed to be an instruction manual. Orwell would turn in his grave if he could see the world now

@Nermeen.

Жыл бұрын

I finished it yesterday and I agree with your expression...

@jeffreypmurphy2352

Жыл бұрын

A boot on a man's face. Forever.

@BurnDoubt

Жыл бұрын

At the beginning of the lockdowns I loaded up the audiobook. It was bedtime and I thought I was going to fall asleep to it. 10 and a half hours later I'm on the edge of the bed with my mouth hanging open wondering if Orwell really was a time traveler

@George-real

Жыл бұрын

@@BurnDoubt ya lmao, I’m not surprised we don’t read that book in school anymore

One thing I wish had been in the video is that all of this backstory could be completely made up considering how untrustworthy Oceania is. The characters don’t even know for sure that the year is 1984. The deuteragonist Julia didn’t even think the war was real and believed that Ingsoc only actually controlled England (and just England, not even the entire former UK), with the rest of the world at peace and relatively better off. By the end, the novel neither confirms nor denies her suspicions.

@themagus5906

8 ай бұрын

An excellent comment! Although, the story , I think, was meant to be more of an allegorical tale, like Orwell's "Animal Farm". It really didn't matter what year it was, or what country it was set in, much like Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451". 🔥

“You can say whatever you want when you raise generations to worship you.” Very important statement.

@celticireland5697

3 жыл бұрын

Note taken

@TnD_BigJax

3 жыл бұрын

Ooohhhhhh... shit.

@calvinjohnstone2664

3 жыл бұрын

Mao?

@segmentsAndCurves

3 жыл бұрын

@@calvinjohnstone2664 Even worse.

@VindexAnimae

3 жыл бұрын

Islam is in control of Facebook Instagram Twitter. You can insult Christianity in their platforms as much as you want but never Islam. Try mentioning Tommy Robinson you'll get banned. Seriously. If this continues, 1984 will happen. Imagine China today.

*[THIS COMMENT WAS DELETED BY THE MINISTRY OF LOVE]*

@Live-qf2lg

3 жыл бұрын

[IT WAS NEVER THERE]

@Graham226

3 жыл бұрын

Whoa. We overthrown INGSOC. Glory to the USA

@androman7773

3 жыл бұрын

It should be removed by minitrue

@Graham226

3 жыл бұрын

[THIS PRO INGSOC COMMENT WAS DELETED BY THE PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT] The INGSOC party has been executed, the people are celebrating, may this new government be wise and fair

@kevray

3 жыл бұрын

Ministry of Love is scary

Given recent history and the way "society" is headed, I think more people need to revive this old classic.

@angusyates828

Жыл бұрын

Precisely.

@oneghost1257

Жыл бұрын

Worth noting that the book wasn't a blanket prediction for the future but a prediction for the future, if the environment of unpopular dietary control ration couponing in WW2 Britain never stopped and NATO became a country. That's more or less what Orwell was worried about.

@Seen420

Жыл бұрын

Wait till emos be like: omg he’s literally me

@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat

Жыл бұрын

Haven’t heard/seen someone say emo in years, Christ alive

@andyroobrick-a-brack9355

Жыл бұрын

No, it's not just a direction we're headed. Everything, from the United States, to Russia, to England, etc, all of it makes 1984 real. If there's a larger entity pushing any kind of mythological ideology, it's oppressive.

A few years ago I was playing video games and remembered a Subway ad. A bit later I was scrolling a bit through youtube and it was on my recommended. I told my mom how funny it was and said jokingly: "Big Brother is watching you." Later I was scrolling through youtube again and there was the ad again but also with this video right above it...

Fun Fact: *This book was banned in the entirety of the eastern bloc.*

@MinMinn192

5 жыл бұрын

It's not banned anymore, at least in the Baltic States where I live. Recently bought it in a normal bookstore, and the police have yet to show up at my house.

@theslavicbear4676

5 жыл бұрын

@@MinMinn192 , understand that I said 'was', during the later Soviet era it was banned. It's not banned anymore, though.

@knsdknsd6817

5 жыл бұрын

.

@Cyborg_Lenin

5 жыл бұрын

Not in Russia tis not. I had to read it in college.

@Joseph_417

5 жыл бұрын

The Slavic Bear I saw you in the comments of the Filipino national anthem

Ingsoc: "Eurasia has always been our greatest ally against the evil East Asia in the war against Eurasia with our great ally East Asia."

@Steph.6926

4 жыл бұрын

CosmoDrone I had to reread this comment four times to understand.

@Poffean

4 жыл бұрын

@Sean Wilkinson FOUR minutes? EURASIAN SPY!

@someonesomewhere8065

4 жыл бұрын

USA in a nutshell.

@someonesomewhere8065

4 жыл бұрын

@Yoshi Does Stuff lol I could not agree more

@davidhollenshead4892

4 жыл бұрын

@@someonesomewhere8065 Not "USA in a nutshell." but rather Television Propaganda of many Nations...

I had to read Animal Farm in eighth grade and there are some deep themes even in that book. Since then I heard more about George Orwell and 1984, so I finally decided to read it, and am more amazed every day how prophetic it actually is.

@pe8403

Жыл бұрын

Hi - I have been a fan of Orwell and his books for some time. I am English and his writing comes from an English age of literature that is a really great source of reflection on how state control has emerged to control more and more of the individual. Read also Aldous Huxley and his amazing book Brave New World. He experimented with LSD and became very interested in modern philosophy. But the main point is about these books like 1984 and Brave New World is that they were a warning. But unfortunately the warning has not been taken seriously and have in fact provided a blue print for those currently in charge of China, Russia and North Korea. And not let's forget the attempt by Donald Trump to use fake news and claim everyone else was producing fake news against him, to stay in power and stage an attempted coup at Capital Hill. The US needs to think clearly about who they trust in government and why people like Trump got away with becoming the worst president of the US in history, and then attempt to overthrow the newly elected President with violence and lies. ( Newspeak )

@meoff7602

Жыл бұрын

He did his research. It's not prophecy. It's a documentary.

@dannyarcher6370

2 ай бұрын

Animal Farm is an incoherent pile of dogshit. Hard to believe that the same guy wrote 1984.

@sm1purplmurderedme583

Ай бұрын

animal farm is amazing

@dannyarcher6370

Ай бұрын

@@sm1purplmurderedme583 It's an incoherent and boring mess. 1984 much better.

As someone with pretty bad memory and self doubt issues, the idea that at any time the government could just completely change what is true and what is false and no one would even acknowledge that anything changed at all is terrifying to me. Because I could totally see myself falling for that.

@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269

Жыл бұрын

Do you have ADHD?

@meoff7602

Жыл бұрын

Good lord, no. Any change is like pulling teeth. What's easy is keeping what is normal going. You think can fall into a dystopian future written in 1984. We are in fact coming out of it. It's why you can find real.qirld examples. Heck, study history. The other examples fo way back in time. Changing is hard. Maintaining is easy.

@JamesTDG

11 ай бұрын

Chances are that it did happen once and it's absolutely scary

@TheRealNintendoKid

11 ай бұрын

it's happening now.

@alejandrabarron3977

8 ай бұрын

this happened after WW2 where with help from the US japan deleted any trace or documents of Unit 731 the most horrible atrocities ever committed and in japan for a few decades it was just an accepted fact that Unit 731 never happened and that it was just a fictional story until somebody proved otherwise by leaking the immunity deal between japan and the us@@JamesTDG

Forget vampires, zombies, werewolves, xenocidal aliens or cosmic horrors; 1984 is the most bone-chilling and terrifying piece of fiction I have ever interacted with in my whole life.

@jahndahp2196

3 жыл бұрын

@@37boy60 what’s that about? I play the game but have never heard of it

@jahndahp2196

3 жыл бұрын

@@37boy60 that sounds cool is it like on par with kaiserreich

@MrsPhilosopher

3 жыл бұрын

2020 says fiction? hold my beer.

@dr.jackkevorkian1119

3 жыл бұрын

What’s scary is that it’s closer to non fiction than most people realize.

@shanetoumey2835

3 жыл бұрын

Juan Carlos Gonzalez Precisely.

For those wondering, yes, this is infact, literally 1984

@glenchapman3899

Жыл бұрын

And for those who research, the book is about conditions in the Soviet Union in 1948

@Perry_the_Clobbopus

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for telling us, we wouldn't have known without you telling us since there are no funni colors

@Imgoingtokillyourdog

Жыл бұрын

@@Perry_the_Clobbopus Some people tell me it's about this guy called Brandon. But those people tend to have the crazy eyes of a person who hasn't slept in months, and feed their children "oils" when they're sick, rather than take them to a hospital. Or belive dead people are coming back to be governors or something. I dunno, they can't read so I dunno why they telling me about books.

@michaelnevsky7622

Жыл бұрын

You actually don't know whether it is 1984. Winston just guessed the year at the beginning of the story and that's it

@aslightidiot

Жыл бұрын

@@Imgoingtokillyourdog Actually, that is my name. My name is Brandon lel

Fun fact: Kim Jong Un was born in the year 1984

@sbrocoli6950

3 ай бұрын

😳😨🤯

The only sliver of optimism in 1984 is when it explains newspeak after the end of the book: "Newspeak was". WAS. That single verb is the only word in the entire novel that makes us think that the world of 1984 will ever cease to exist.

@robertagren9360

10 ай бұрын

Newspeak was outdated since it later was no need of speaking to one and another

@Subby1807

4 ай бұрын

Plenty of examples of dictatorships falling simply because when the people unite what can they do

@tommasoastaldi2513

4 ай бұрын

@Subby1807 many dictatorships only work when they successfully pit people against each other and make them afraid of everyone who's "different"

@NorthernNorthdude91749

2 ай бұрын

@@Subby1807 The people CAN'T unite in 1984 though. That's the thing. INGSOC has removed the very concept of personal liberty from Human psyche.

@Subby1807

2 ай бұрын

@@NorthernNorthdude91749 doesnt make it impossimble though it takes 1 man to plant the seed

INGSOC: "Reality can be whatever i want"

@robertsmalls2293

5 жыл бұрын

Owen Wilson Thanos is a registered INGSOC Party voter.

@robertsmalls2293

5 жыл бұрын

Griff oneca He works for INGSOC, using his infinity gauntlet to spy on people.

@williamhall6651

5 жыл бұрын

What do you mean Owen? What you want IS reality.

@georgedrippington1610

5 жыл бұрын

@@williamhall6651 i want a bitch with a fat cake to beat the skin off my dick but sadly that is not reality

@SkylerArmor

5 жыл бұрын

@@georgedrippington1610 same Owen. Same

Comment section: 10% This is what our world is turning to. 90% Irregular boobs.

@Marylandbrony

7 жыл бұрын

It's really closer to 5% Boobs, 5% Trump is 1984, 70% "The Left" is 1984 and 20% random comments.

@rock3tcatU233

7 жыл бұрын

NICTATOR You forgot the weak right wing cuckservatives being scared of some topless feminists.

@GWT1m0

7 жыл бұрын

ⵔⵓⴽⴰⵜⴽⴰⵜ Oh shut up. If the left & the right keep becoming whiney bitches, the world would be left with a bunch of Babies.

@Marylandbrony

7 жыл бұрын

Or 1984 as it's really more of a warning against ideological zealotry and totally removing your enemies from the system.

@AholeAtheist

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but the people saying that this is what the world is turning into, are saying so based the wrong things, on "alternative facts". So the comments section is about 99.999% retarded.

The last few chapters of the book push any creative person's mentality to a level of stress that I didn't even know was possible.

"It was all a dream. It never happened. There is no cornucopia in the Fruit of the Loom logo."

@themagus5906

8 ай бұрын

, said...."(fill in the blank)". I can't wait.

Ingsoc is the government equivalent to the "it has always been" meme

@thatbasedfeliscatus577

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much

@Agent-Blaze

3 жыл бұрын

"Always has been" - Impostor to among us crewmate, somewhere in space

@juliomanuel1885

3 жыл бұрын

So Ingsoc is basically a what if Ohio took over the world.

@christophertaylor6079

3 жыл бұрын

Ingsoc means English socialism in Newspeak... the book is amazing a must read. The dread and feelings the book creates while you read is real, so much he wrote is mirrored in today’s political atmosphere and society.

@liberallis6396

3 жыл бұрын

Yet you're a mask wearing meme yourself.

George Orwell: here's my new book, 1984! Kim Jong-il: Write that down! *WRITE THAT DOWN!*

@timothyday5187

4 жыл бұрын

It was actually Kim il-sung, just like to point that out

@unsungheroes9140

4 жыл бұрын

Is it true even that Kim il sung read 1984?

@bemotivated8443

3 жыл бұрын

It’s not just him the entire world seems like it is trying to copy this

@stevengreen9536

3 жыл бұрын

@@bemotivated8443 Unfortunately but the funny thing is.It is used these days as a political blunt object to bash opposition.Instead of ppl heeding the warning George Orwell was trying to give the world when he wrote it.I fear we might very well be heading that way if western politics can't restore some degree of sanity in the coming years.Should current trends continue.

@Legion849

3 жыл бұрын

The irony is 1984 was supposed to be a warning not an instruction manual. Welcome to 1984

Most people read this book and see it as a warning, but it's scary how some read it as an instruction manual.

@Overthinking-rain

Жыл бұрын

My first mistake was reading it like an instruction manual

@alfalldoot6715

Жыл бұрын

Everyone who disagrees with me uses it as a manual

@j.c.k.8639

11 ай бұрын

What do you mean?

@Overthinking-rain

11 ай бұрын

@@j.c.k.8639 He means that they read the book as a manual of "what to do if you find yourself living in a dictatorship" but in reality it is a warning of why we should not let a dictatorship happen

@j.c.k.8639

11 ай бұрын

@@Overthinking-rain ahh, oki... Viva la revolution

The fact Orwell managed to make such a masterpiece while dying of TB. It’s crazy.

1984 is by far the darkest book I’ve ever read. I felt physically ill reading the last third of it

@TheFamousMockingbird

4 жыл бұрын

Idk Lolita is a pretty fucking dark book

@glsa5482

4 жыл бұрын

I still remember the last part, when the torture happened. The whole mental to made feel so bad, as if it was happening to me but in a different level. Orwell did a great job with this book.

@Gazmus

4 жыл бұрын

but wait...I'm running out of book pretty quickly but there's still time for it to turn around and for things to start getting better...then it just keeps barrelling down hill as you have less and less left to read and you lose hope as characters you're reading about do the same. Only read it once, had to go re-read The Road after to cheer meself up :)

@bassrocks4419

4 жыл бұрын

Gazmus Exactly. I kept thinking that Winston would end up destroy the Ministry of Love from the inside or there would be some sort of rebellion in England, but it just never happened

@fonegamer5050

4 жыл бұрын

Johnny Got His Gun *shivers*

At 2:07 it’s mentioned that a town in England called Colchester was nuked, but London was not. As someone who lives in Colchester I can confirm that we got nuked because Colchester is a military garrison town and so would probably hold some strategic advantage to destroy. Not important or relevant information but I thought it would be interesting for people to know :)

@c93636

2 жыл бұрын

made me laugh when he said major city, then col kester hahahah

@frenchpeoplearentrealpeopl4771

2 жыл бұрын

Or they just didn’t like Colchester

@oddpoppetesq.3467

2 жыл бұрын

Not irrelevant. In Orwells day im pretty sure Colchester MB was well used so would have been a major target in an all out war, albeit I dont understand why Eurasia or Eastasia wouldnt nuke a major city like London as well though.....

@Robbie-pc1dl

2 жыл бұрын

yea

@alexm.s4000

2 жыл бұрын

@@oddpoppetesq.3467 i suppose its because the nations want the war to perpetually continue. Without the war the people would question why their lives are so shitty.(revolution?) But as long as there is conflict the people can be rallied against a "common cause' War is peace

Don’t just read it. Read it when you are young for curiosity, then revisit it at points throughout life as you know more about propaganda and politics. It’s a great book

My favorite type of person who talks about 1984 is the one that never read it, it’s amazing to see

@Aaron067

Ай бұрын

The comments here are full of those people

And remember kids: "1984" is a cautionary tale,and NOT an instruction manual!

@Lorddacenshadowind

3 жыл бұрын

but I was going to take over Mexico :(

@kd8bxp

3 жыл бұрын

That comment doesn't exists.

@MrDrProffPatrick

3 жыл бұрын

You read it I assume?

@robertlafayette2715

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDrProffPatrick Yes, multiple times. Airstrip One is a miserable place to live...

@MrDrProffPatrick

3 жыл бұрын

@@robertlafayette2715 and winston's tale? is that not a manual on quiet rebellion?

1984 wasn't necessarily the actual year. It's just Winton's best guess as to the year.

@cassanateli

5 жыл бұрын

Mark Mendel What an idiot! Everyone knows the year will be 2020

@michaelpalmieri7335

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, George Orwell called his book "1984" because he finished writing it in 1948 and reversed the last two digits of that year (the book was officially published the next year).

@welshinc5782

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Palmieri that's sadly a common myth. It went through a few titles (1980, 1982, 1948 and the last man in Europe). His publish changed the name to 1984 so it would be more marketable and the only reason he chose that date is it's a ref rename to his wife's poem 'the end of the world, 1984' and their love for Jack Londons book The Iron Heel, which takes place in the same year

@chrishoover18

4 жыл бұрын

The TRUE year is April 2024. The capitalism rules as as it stands. The name of the capitalist are #1 Google #2 Facebook #3 Twitter All privately owned. (Capital) In 2024 when 5G dominates the world capitalism we be a thing of the past for all that have not capitalized for the union of all the world to gather as one people....The Human Race.

@AnalyticalChick

4 жыл бұрын

It should be renamed to 2030

I read this book in high school as it was required reading. Never thought parts of it would begin in my lifetime. We were warned.

@heroicpower3479

9 ай бұрын

Why doesn't 1984 have a good ending?

@humanwhodoesstuffindeed

3 ай бұрын

@@heroicpower3479 because it's speculative fiction.

@FreyR_Kunn

Ай бұрын

You either barely read it or lacked media literacy. The book was political satire. There is no thought police, there is no double think, there is no unpersoning.

I'm currently halfway through the book. I'm telling you, I've read over 400 books in my life and I'm sure, before even finishing it that it'll definitely earn a place in my top 10 books of all time.

@thundafundamentalist

8 ай бұрын

Name them. Please.

One thing you have to bear in mind with 1984 is that literally nothing can be taken at face value. It's entirely possible that the party is a world government and that Eurasia and Eastasia are just fictions to justify a permanent war footing that only exists to suppress the populace. Equally it could be that airstrip 1 is little more than a banana republic with little standing on the world stage and the party is indulging In North Korean self aggrandisement. We don't even know for sure that the year is 1984.

@DaybreakPT

6 жыл бұрын

Literally nothing can be taken at face value. Oh so like the mainstream media 2015 onwards? kzread.info/dash/bejne/ppZpsrKnpdiZktY.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/YquBm6NmkZXFh84.html Check this one 0:50 onwards, the staging is once again obvious as fuck. It's not just CNN, they've just been caught red-handed recently, see this after the first video link I sent you, does anyone seem familiar? www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/40149802/turn-to-love-message-from-muslims-after-london-bridge-attack

@l_ndonmusic

6 жыл бұрын

It's funny that memes are a better and more reliable source of news than official multi-billion dollar networks

@fatcat5544

6 жыл бұрын

I love how someone writes a comment based on a work of fiction and someone has to come out of the wood work and scream about how the water is makin' the friggin frogs gay.

@NunOfDoloresDei

6 жыл бұрын

Didn't they capture a bunch of Eurasian solidees in the book? I know there were enemy ones, ay least. So I doubt they have nothing on the world stage.

@Nick_o7

6 жыл бұрын

hot take here

I read 1984 and IT. 1984 was scarier. Usually these books end in a resolution - Orwell made sure that a world in this state could realistically never be reverted, and those attempting to will end up like Winston.

@Wateryshroomdude

3 жыл бұрын

It is really scary. After I was done with the book I tried to imagine what I would do in that situation. Even in this reality i could feel the party squeezing the life from me. THERE IS NO WAY TO OVERTHROW THE PARTY.

@YagamiTrala

3 жыл бұрын

@@Wateryshroomdude after reading the book I was feeling really really down (like a short depression) for about a week or two for this exact reason.

@Wateryshroomdude

3 жыл бұрын

@@YagamiTrala It gets worse once you realise its already happening. Governments slowly encroaching, saying "its for you own good".

@Wateryshroomdude

3 жыл бұрын

@Karl Quetzacoatl Yes. Although simplifying my thoughts into one ideology is dangerous, I would say ancap is better than most things.

@xPowerKittyx

3 жыл бұрын

afaik, the end of the book speaks of the regime in past tense, meaning that it was in fact overthrown

The line that gets me is O'Brien's remark to Winston Smith: "If you want to imagine the future, picture a boot stamping on a human face... forever." I may not have quoted the line exactly as it is in the book, but the meaning is there and it's a terrifying thought.

How can people not realize that this is exactly what [political party I don't agree with] is doing.

@xptaco2298

Жыл бұрын

Well it won't work there are those that are educated that can push back, the flow of information is no one near as restricted in 1984. No one has unified into a superstate nor has any country has tried to destroy the individual. I do say that todays society has become more authoritarian than the last 100 years but its not at the level of complete information control. I don't believe that level of information control is even possible but it should open peoples eyes for seeing how easy political parties are controlling those that are devoted to them.

@Transit0422

Жыл бұрын

It literally is tho, I live in Canada and this book has got a metric f**k ton of similarities with what our government has done in the recent past or is trying to do currently

@TheRealNintendoKid

11 ай бұрын

there's only one party with the illusion of two.

@electronium6378

10 ай бұрын

KKonaW the goddam democrats? Globalists222?!! Free masons11!!!1

@TankEngine75

10 ай бұрын

​@@Transit0422If it was true then wouldn't you have been arrested just by commenting this comment?

“They’re afraid of love, cause love makes a world they can’t control”

@danieldudin4071

4 жыл бұрын

And what about the love of Big brother ?

@carealoo744

4 жыл бұрын

@@danieldudin4071 I think there was some-sort of Irony, in That-Final-Line.

@carealoo744

4 жыл бұрын

@Josef and The Amazing Technicolor Lampshade ... Okay. Sorry, what are You saying?

@muslimreactionary2350

4 жыл бұрын

“ Big Brother is all about love. Why don't you see ? The Big Brother is too afraid to let you go ! He's always behind you every step you make, every breath you take. He's simply very caring about you that if you're not sharing with him the love he profess toward you, he's either renew faith and love in you or simply destroy you ! Look at it this way, if he does not love you then why he even care about you ? ”

@comesahorseman

4 жыл бұрын

@Ben Shapiro's Yamaka hence, the war against marriage and the family?

To put it in simple term: *Those who control the information, Control the World*

@hastytkd5768

5 жыл бұрын

Knowledge is power.

@rodU65

5 жыл бұрын

@almightyinferno power corrupts, absolute power corrupts all.

@Lolinatorishere

5 жыл бұрын

Only if everyone in the world does the same read the book between 240 and 280 pages goldestein knows what he's talking about

@Lolo50000

5 жыл бұрын

@@rodU65 you might even say it...corrupts absolutely

@daddylonglegs3698

5 жыл бұрын

Hastytkd Lmao.

to me the most terrifying thing about this story was the complete absence of truth in this world. if no one knows whats true anymore and you have the power to do so, it‘s up to you to decide whats the truth. orwell even said something like „we live in a world where the concept of truth seems to disappear. in the future the lie will be used as the truth for all means“ i‘m sorry i don‘t remember the exact quote. and with social media and more and more polarizing politicians we are marching straight into this world of lies and misinformation. in fact, we are already there. we‘re just lucky that we all still have enough to eat, work and shelter. as soon as this turns we will walk right into it… and i‘m talking about EVERY political side and EVERY ideology.

@angusyates828

Жыл бұрын

Speak the truth publicly today and face the consequences.

@velya-_-885

9 ай бұрын

this is literally 1984

@ChrisBeenRaw

9 ай бұрын

The year I was born. I always felt that we were the first of the experiment babies and that the concept of reality is always to be questioned.

One thing that our teacher noted about 1984 is that all of its surveillance is built with technology that exists in reality, and I will add that even the more sci-fi aspects like auto-generated entertainment for the proles are quickly becoming reality nowadays. The only thing that marks the distinction between a society becoming such a dystopia or not is pure political will.

what actually happened in 1984 The Soviets invented tetris

@kaiserkiefer1760

4 жыл бұрын

A VERY SERIOUS GUY the most important invention of mankind

@averyseriousguy5784

4 жыл бұрын

KAISER KIEFER beside sliced bread and chair

@kaiserkiefer1760

4 жыл бұрын

A VERY SERIOUS GUY indeed

@kirbythemusician5625

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3qql8Wuib2sc5M.html

@falendemo546

4 жыл бұрын

A VERY SERIOUS GUY --- Soviet also invented "The Witcher" series (if don't know The Witcher was created in Communist Poland).

The scariest thing is that you read the book through Winston's eyes. Everything he thinks or sees is how *he* perceives it. And considering that (spoiler) it's revealed he's been under vigilance pretty much his whole adult life, stuff such as the war between Eastasia or Eurasia might not be true. Hell, for all we know Eastasia and Eurasia might not even exist.

@swayamsmita1519

2 жыл бұрын

Omg!!! It just striked my mind now. Fuck I'm having trust issues now. (Seems like everything is a lie)

@user-qs9iu9vw4x

2 жыл бұрын

Or he might have schizophrenia or something

@VincentSaan

2 жыл бұрын

@albert einstien strange.. first thing that comes to me is ccp. Are you chinese propaganda or somthing?

@mr.iiconic

2 жыл бұрын

@albert einstien China, Britain too

@kremlguard9544

2 жыл бұрын

@Communist Detective Naruto Uzumaki Japan is kinda sorta becoming one of them. More military spending, a rise in extreme right wing factions etc.

I push my fingers into my eyes because this Orwell book is definitely a foretelling of the 21 century

@norbertjaworski6621

3 ай бұрын

it isssssss ITS TEH ONLY THING THAT SLWOLKY

Loved this video, would love to see you do a video on Brave new world, and maybe a comparison between these two.

What Orwell did to make this book: *Combines USSR and Nazi Germany and cranks it up to eleven* Orwell: perfection.

@roji4423

4 жыл бұрын

Its basically similar to North Korea.

@TheStarcoMarco

4 жыл бұрын

@Henk van der Laak Nazbol?

@OldNavajoTricks

4 жыл бұрын

Nazi Gulags... Nazgul... ...

@looinrims

4 жыл бұрын

No, Nazism and Communism are only relatable in an economic sense of extensive rationing and socialist policies, Both were built on the idea of war to spread their influence, war that makes progress and ends in victory, 1984’s world is reliant on war making no progress, to fail to achieve any objective worth a damn, and they didn’t have the total control over information, this may be due to foreign meddling and the fact that most of their subjects weren’t apart of their nations but rather conquered or puppeted, not loyal to the regime.

@OldNavajoTricks

4 жыл бұрын

Every Empire had Citizens (I.E. Motherland citizens) and subjects, Roman citizens/Roman subjects, British citizens/British subjects, Prussian, Portuguese, French, every damned one, A Citizen can reasonably be expected to be loyal to their home country, but why would a man with a boot on his neck praise the boot...

One of my favorite theories about this book is that Oceania, Eurasia, Eastasia and all that never actually happened, but that unfair only exists in Great Britain, with nobody knowing any better because they are completely cut off from the rest of the world.

@Ayr-me7vb

2 жыл бұрын

That's why it's such a great book, there's so many different theories you can come up with about it :) its one of the reasons I'm glad no-one can milk it for sequels bc I know that they would explain and ruin everything

@phantomsoldier497

2 жыл бұрын

It is suggested at one point that probably there is no war, there is no Oceania, Eurasia or Eastasia and not even a Big Brother. Since the truth is decided by the party we don't know what is real or what is not and the truth is nothing more than a instrument of the party

@URProductions

2 жыл бұрын

That's kind of like North Korea. They literally don't know anything about the outside world.

@Am_Yeff

2 жыл бұрын

@@URProductions the people of north Korea at least know something even if highly twisted by propaganda, in 1984 nobody knows anything

@trippymartian8847

2 жыл бұрын

@@Am_Yeff ye it’s pretty far gone

Just read 1984 at the age of 63. A masterpiece!...and chillingly prophetic.

Imagine if Owell still lives to this day, the TikTok era, what thought-provoking ideas would he come up with

@dazza2350

Жыл бұрын

@Bass Player bro comparing George Orwell to Joe Rogan

@lt4109

Жыл бұрын

@Bass Player Orwell was a socialist

@candide1065

Жыл бұрын

@@dazza2350 YES

@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat

Жыл бұрын

I genuinely hope he’d have more to say than “phone bad”

@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat

Жыл бұрын

@@dazza2350 The pain of being chronically online

The thing about 1984 is that we don’t know if much of the information we gather about the world is even correct. O’Brien admits to writing the book that gives a lot of history and background on the world to Winston so it has a good chance of being false. For all we know Oceana only consists of the British isles or the super states of Eurasia and Eastasia do not exist. There is no way to know for sure.

@NumbGeek

2 жыл бұрын

I thought about this a while ago, it's entirely possible for that to be true

@Kriegter

2 жыл бұрын

so north korea

@colton1325

2 жыл бұрын

[SPOILER] There is 2 whole chapters that basically repeats itself twice when Winston reads Goldsteins book and it mentions the regions that mark the borders of the nations

@NumbGeek

2 жыл бұрын

@@colton1325 for all we know, it might be false, since it was given to Winston by a party member

@eXecu7or

2 жыл бұрын

@@colton1325 it was written by party to bait people into believing in some kind of resistance, for all we know it might be possible that Goldstein didn't even exist

He who conquers the past, commands the future.

@dddmemaybe

5 жыл бұрын

Know thy self, know thy enemy. A thousand battles, a thousand victories. - Sun Tzu It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell. - Buddha

@Eric345

5 жыл бұрын

You mean the present?

@expendable1015

5 жыл бұрын

@@Eric345 It's a Command and Conquer reference

@Tehnodinaroid

5 жыл бұрын

And who controls the present, controls the past.

@josephgodinez112

5 жыл бұрын

Red alert basically

This helped me with my essay, thanks Cody

Great Video! Glad I found this channel!

I need this as a comparison with the book and my discord server rules

@zeppelinwarscommunity9969

2 жыл бұрын

True

@Robbie-pc1dl

2 жыл бұрын

lol

@TheKnightDrag0n

2 жыл бұрын

If a server have more than 5 rules it's trash and it will eventually become a wasteland.

@Artood4R2

2 жыл бұрын

"LiTtErAlLy 1984"

@mikep6726

2 жыл бұрын

"you will not send anime feet pics in general".... Orwellian

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@drakoclash5715

7 жыл бұрын

That fat asian kid WTF?

@aveeeno8140

7 жыл бұрын

I dont like pie tho, so it is just another pie recipe to me. (not outstanding)

@brandonbigler1516

7 жыл бұрын

That fat asian kid nice👌👍

@itsharris2345

7 жыл бұрын

That fat asian kid k

@czeslaw.1066

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Still an extremely relevant book today. Despite having read the book several times and made several videos on it as well, I still make new discoveries each time I pick the book up. Nice video.

@SlimeBlueMS

4 ай бұрын

People in the comments are trying to say that people selecting pronouns is equal to newspeak and that the trans community is basically ingsoc when people experience cancel culture due to their ignorance regarding it That's especially terrifying, because ingsoc would WANT to put down the trans community, stop people from being trans, limit vocabulary i.e no pronouns other than government approved ones Bigots these days actually think they're the ones being persecuted by society because they aren't allowed to attack trans people or control women's bodies (no abortions allowed, etc)

A dystopia that feels more current is "Brave new world", by Aldous Huxley. These words by Neil Postman describe the differences and would make anyone realize why "Brave New World" is more relevant now: "What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egotism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Orwell added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that our fear will ruin us. Huxley feared that our desire will ruin us."

@stefm.w.3640

4 жыл бұрын

@Yoshi Does Stuff tl;dr: we are brainwashing ourselves using the internet. fuck :(

@sovietunion7643

4 жыл бұрын

and yet there are some of us who see that we are screwed, and even see that we may just perceive we are screwed by our depression, and just start to welcome the extinction of man, even if we are wrong

@a2falcone

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-pi4su6je8p I understand. But while society seems to be getting closer to A Brave New World, the threat of a 1984-type dystopia has decreased. In the year 1984, Communist dictatorships were still ruling a big part of the world and totalitarianism seemed like an imminent global threat. Today, totalitarianism is a shadow of what it was. Even big dictatorships like China have been getting a bit more free. Any dystopia will likely reflect parts of our current reality. Lies, oppression and war have always existed. But I wouldn't say they're becoming the biggest threat right now. On a side note, fake news aren't very 1984-ish. 1984 shows an all-powerful State in direct control of all the media, blatantly lying to the helpless citizen who doesn't have any other source of information. It's centralized lies that go from the top to the bottom. Fake news are something Orwell could've never dreamed of. When technology gave everyone the freedom to produce and consume information (something unthinkable in a totalitarian regime), the people became bombarded with tons of information of dubious quality, coming from different sources and presenting contradicting views. By sharing that information, it was the people who became the propagators of lies: a decentralized and horizontal scheme of disinformation. In a way, that sounds quite Brave New World-ish.

@jackdoggulas6217

4 жыл бұрын

It’s like Robert Frost’s Fire and Ice

@benperez8291

4 жыл бұрын

Bro you care too much about this. Just start a reddit forum and don’t type a year long comment ahahha

This book serves as both a warning and tutorial on how endless tyranny would be very possible

@geonet3965

3 жыл бұрын

And so does "Brave New World"

@mr.gilbert2790

2 жыл бұрын

Endless tyranny began with the dawn of civilisation

@dovhadark7108

2 жыл бұрын

@@mr.gilbert2790 VErY sMarT COmmeNt aBoVe

@robirvine6970

Жыл бұрын

Nonsense. This type of goverment Cound never exist, no one is going to bother taking over a society they then don't rule.

@evdestroy5304

Жыл бұрын

@James Sunderland Also a good book

"A world where totalitarianism, individualism was dead, reality and history was just a manner of opinion." So... exactly what happened?

“Loyal and too stupid to question it” that resonates with me.

@fordgt5383

2 жыл бұрын

Conservative patriots in one sentence

@jackiebiskan4748

2 жыл бұрын

@@fordgt5383 sjw they are all Loyal in thinking the patriarchy is evil and need to be taken down

@seanparker3386

2 жыл бұрын

Trump supporters

@C_odysseus

2 жыл бұрын

@@seanparker3386 you’re blind if you don’t see it on both sides friend.

@seanparker3386

2 жыл бұрын

@@C_odysseus actually biden supporters have been very critical of him recently. Trump could kill someone and his idiot supporters would still cheer for him

I’m sure that many of you have heard this popular paradox before: The following statement is true. The previous statement is false. Logically, this cannot be and it breaks one’s own brain trying to comprehend it. However there is a solution. Just use doublethink and both statements can be simultaneously true. Because with doublethink two contradictory statements can both be true.

@michael3069

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, exactly! There is no objective truth, that B.S. The truth is just what you think it is.

@sandwich434

3 жыл бұрын

Jacques Voigt if Michael Robert were to die, then how could anyone prove that he was ever alive? Photos can be tampered with and memories are in one’s head. What if Michael Robert’s existence was all just a part of the Mandela Effect? Of course, we know in our world that memories are real. But George Orwell explores a very interesting philosophy in 1984.

@Legion849

3 жыл бұрын

This comment does not exist and it never happened. Citizen you have been mistaken

@Furyhunter85

3 жыл бұрын

Thruth has no value only facts does, if you control what is facts there is no need for true/false, good/bad true/false is based on opinion facts is not, to quote barney stinson new is always better, do you really erase something? or do you just point out the facts! One of the fascinating things to think about is the major scale you have to manipulate rewrite or call it fact printing, to erase someone from the collective mind of everybody is no small feat, everything you ever touched needs to be rewritten and mind scrubbed, without the use of drugs or mind altering in the populace this would be near impossible, even dumb masses that can't read still have memories, to not make things spread you would have to rewrite people that remember almost simultanious. I would guess the book has alot more juice and meat on the subject then the movie, havent read the book its near impossible for me to sit still and focus for that long

@blobbee8943

3 жыл бұрын

PROOF INGSOC IS REAL AND RULES US ALL

I read this book when I was 16 (in 1972). I am now 66 and still have a copy on my bookshelf. I am sad to report that many; if not most of the things presented in the book have indeed come to pass. Perpetual war, the constant rewriting of history, censorship of the mind (cancel culture), surveillance and digital identity tracking. In reality the class structure never left us; it was simply dressed in the costume of credit bought affectations. We, in a society of overproduction, are now living in times of food shortages and 'supply line issues; all blamed (of course) on those evil buggers over somewhere else. But hey, life is full of bounty and we have never been freer. (whispering conspiratorially... At least that's what we are told')

@Pomez9796

Жыл бұрын

Ah...I have to admit, that is Not right, from my perspective. I mean, I don't know where you live, but as I say, from my perspective we indeed have it far better than anywhere else in History. I can Go to the streets and say the government is Bad, No one will arrest me for this. In a few years, I can Go and Vote for a new government. There is No Style of Live that the government can dictate. I can be straight or queer, have children or Not, can Work in any Profession i want (as Long i have the skills)... We have a strong, democratic Opposition and Not Just "Yes Men". I don't have to starve or to freeze, i don't have to die from sickness or war. Yes, there are many Bad things, there is Not everything going the right way and it highly depends on where you live. But in all honesty, I could Not See myself Farther away from the world Orwell described.

@stevious7278

Жыл бұрын

@@Pomez9796 I never suggested that this was not arguably the best time to be alive in history. What I did suggest is that in my lifetime I have seen things change; and not for the better in many respects. Yes, we have much better medical care, anti-domestic violence and child protection laws than in previous times. Yes homosexuality is no longer a crime and you will not be murdered based on nothing but the colour of your skin (although in some parts of the USA this is still the case). Have a moment and consider the almost ubiquitous use of surveillance cameras, the idea that you can be refused entry to a business or even lose your job because you refused to undergo a medical procedure (vaccine mandates). Think of the erosion of civil liberties and the restriction placed on certain words and concepts - cancel culture. You say you can vote for who you like. Really? In my country - Australia, candidates are presented. I don't choose them. They are chosen by The Party. And what is the real difference between the political parties where you live? Do politicians really run the nation; or is real power wielded by business leaders (who are elected by nobody) In a world of overproduction we suffer food shortages or supply chair issues. If you cannot see these, and many other societal changes taking place as the slow decent into authoritarianism then they are very successful in playing the long game. peace.

@Pomez9796

Жыл бұрын

@@stevious7278 Yeah, I get you with the survilance, even If it is pretty restricted here in Germany. But i admit, that is Something we Always have to Fight for as a society. And yeah, we also can Vote for Parties, that Announce their Leaders, but i don't See the Problem with it. If i wanted there would be nothing that could Stop me to build my own Party or to Join a Party and try to get Chancelor, Minister, Major, you call it. We don't have this excessive Funding-Campains Like the US have, i See the Problem there. I don't know how it is in Australia. The differences between the Parties are there. For example we have the Green Party that does Not want Nuclear Power and we have the Liberals that absolutely want to Invest in Nuclear Power. We have the Social Democrats that want to rise the Minimum Wage and we have the Liberals that mostly want it in the hands of Unions and Businesses. Yeah, there are differences and in a good democracy there will be compromises Made Out of those differences. At least in Germany the "Cancel Culture" is Not mandated by law. There are groups in society that try to cancel certain Things and there are other groups that are against it. Businesses and Media Sometimes follow the one or the other. But you never Just get one Side, Not even in the Mainstream. For example, if SPIEGEL is to liberal or progressive for you as a newspaper, you could Change to WELT. Totally different political standings, but still both Mainstream. I also get you with the food shortages and supply-problems. It is depressing that it Happens and that many Big Businesses are filling their pockets because of that. But I don't See, that Out government is trying to keep this shortages Up to controll us more. Actually they are trying quiet hard to Fight against it (at least from my perspective). I get what you mean with the vaccines, but for me it is honestly Something everyone has to evaluate for themselve. In my opinion it is important, that the society protects the weak, even If it lowers my Personal freedom. Outside of the medical sector there were No mandatory vaccinations here. And even there it was Not forced as far as i know. Greetings :)

@stevious7278

Жыл бұрын

@@Pomez9796 There are many subjects you touch on here; much too many to discuss on a platform such as this. We could sit and talk for hours and hours I am sure. You give me the impression of being a socially aware human being who has the greater good at the forefront of your mind. In the current time that is to be applauded. Stay true my friend on the other side of the planet who I have never met. :) Oh; and I hope the Northern winter is not too severe. (There is a lot of media coverage here about the fuel supply shortages needed to keep your homes warm) peace.

@Pomez9796

Жыл бұрын

@@stevious7278 yes, i agree :) Thank you for your time and the interesting discussion! The Winter ist okay Here, a few cold weeks but it is getting warmer again. And we Heat with Wood, so it is Not to Bad for us now. I Wish you all the best and maybe we discuss Something again on this platform :D Bye!

Thanks for the nice summation! :)

“The ministry of peace who wage war. The ministry of love who kill all. The ministry of truth who spread nothing but lies. And the ministry of plenty, who keep the proles in poverty.”

@samuelfischman6949

5 жыл бұрын

this is dubbleplusungood bourgeois propaganda the thought police are on their way.

@WyrmrestAccord

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like Venezuela to me.

@elizabethhawkins9837

5 жыл бұрын

The ministry of love was to propagate love of Big Brother or die if you failed to love. the same with the other ministries.E.g What is truth, also there was no war. To a point the book itself was doublethink

@larenzdechavez442

5 жыл бұрын

Anti vax, flat earth logic

@elizabethhawkins9837

5 жыл бұрын

@@larenzdechavez442 Nice try, I'm a scientist. You're not very good at this are you

Spoilers for the book. Do also keep in mind it’s been a while since I’ve read 1984. When I finished 1984, what I took away from it was that everything that we have been told over the course of the book, through Winston’s eyes, was all a lie. We are told basically everything that you said in the video, but the ending gives off a weird feeling of complete doubt about the situation of the world at large. Is there actually a war between the 3 powers? Do the other 3 powers even exist? Is everything just controlled by Oceania? Is Oceania actually an incredibly small refuge of human life amid a world long since destroyed by atomic war? We don’t know, because The Party has complete control over reality. I need to reread 1984.

@craigboden9455

2 жыл бұрын

The authors way of saying "see how easy it is to sow doubt and confusion" maybe?

@Tony-The-Motherfucking-Tiger

2 жыл бұрын

Important thing is the theory that the bombs that fall sometimes are not sent by Eurasia or Eastasia but by Oceania itself to keep the illusion of being in war.

@Krustycrabpizza35

2 жыл бұрын

That’s what great about it. There are so many theories. It could be that the rest of the world is ‘normal’ and it’s just Britain that’s become like North Korea.

@AverageAlien

2 жыл бұрын

@@Krustycrabpizza35 that theory is just a cope for people that want a happier ending. The reality which is most likely is that the rest of the world has been wiped out

@gluestickgenius2644

2 жыл бұрын

@@AverageAlien That's just a cope for people who need cynism as a shield. Based on the text, both theories are equally likely.

Wrongthink is the most terrifying part of the book. The idea that a government can restrict your freedom so much that you can't even have your own thoughts is terrifying.

What if Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia in the book aren’t real at all? What if Britain in the book is just an isolated, North Korean style totalitarian regime in a post nuclear apocalyptic world?

@eight-cloudspurple5871

Ай бұрын

it definitely could work. almost all information about the world in the book is given by state propaganda and events, winston's own secret thoughts(which cluld very well be wrong), and Obrien(which also might be wrong). Hell, what if 1984-world is pretty much just IRL 1984 but UK gone isolationist and full-on North Korea hermit kingdom? Come to think of it... do we even know for sure Airstrip One is british isles? What if its just some island somewhere that was built with some copies of british landmark and the crazy dictator wanted to make it seem like it was the british iseles. And the actual UK is horrified and disgusted by this perversion of their home.

"I win the debate because I made the language." -The Party, somewhere around 1984

@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009

3 жыл бұрын

Uh-oh looks like someone is commiting a tought crime

"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

@kenudice9841

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Napoleon.

@toxiccommenter6540

3 жыл бұрын

Wrong book love

@pretzelboi86

3 жыл бұрын

wrong book

@kenudice9841

3 жыл бұрын

@Pretzel Boi Same Author, same theme.

@JohanKylander

3 жыл бұрын

Animal Farm

When Winston tries to find anyone that remembers that it wasn't always like this.

Good vid. I love the way you pronounce 'Colchester'!

The scariest part is that even the highly educated inner party don't care about the oppression. They have heard all counter arguments, and yet still are able to hold their beliefs through double think.

@Janua7ies

2 жыл бұрын

@tek merion no.

@Janua7ies

2 жыл бұрын

@tek merion You are actually sending that link to others user comment (in this video tho) and also doing a self promotion too. Even that link brings to your video in your channel, I'll respect it.

@justbecause7402

2 жыл бұрын

@tek merino talking about spamming when you literally copy paste this under every comment

@apocalypsator6

2 жыл бұрын

Because it hurts to do otherwise. They care only enough to ensure that all party members understand this. The Proles don't care at all.

@ScurvySeamate

Жыл бұрын

Twitter users

Arguing with an inner party member is like playing chess with a Cardassian pigeon : No matter how good you play, he will rewrite the rules, define black as white and white as black, and strap your face to a cage with hungry rats.

@bluelamboblackpresident6111

6 жыл бұрын

Please upload again. I found your channel when you were a few months into your drought and seeing your account made me remember how good your videos are. If you gave up on YT at least know that I love your videos

@timtrotman6779

6 жыл бұрын

Eric Thorson SJWs have nothing to do with nihilism, and has maybe a tangential relation to 1984. I don't think you understand what nihilism means

@timtrotman6779

6 жыл бұрын

Eric Thorson SJWs believe in equality (I assume for this argument). Nihilism is the concept that life, or the world, has no distinct meaning or purpose. Nihilists believe that there are no true morals. Therefore if anything SJWs go against nihilism. I guess if you mean "in common" you mean absolutely no connection/polar opposite (depending on your definition) then yes they're "in common"

@timtrotman6779

6 жыл бұрын

Eric Thorson you are rambling so much here that you're muddying your own point. The definitions are different/contradictory. I'm not even touching what you said.

@LaChicadelaMalta

6 жыл бұрын

Eric Thorson Then that's because you haven't read the book, since what she said is EXACTLY how the Party is depicted in it

One quote I may be paraphrasing a bit often helps me write things down for my mental health: "The face of O'brien, not called upon by any obvious factor, flashed into his mind. It became clear in that moment that he was writing this journal for- to, O'brien." Just kinda helps that you can write it for someone without them reading it

@aislinq

Жыл бұрын

but he did read it...

@fwolf4452

Жыл бұрын

this is a weird analogy because o’brien did read it and used it as a reason to torture winston….

@skruby7535

Жыл бұрын

@F Wolf At the end. In that moment he was under the impression nobody was ever going to touch or see his journal, yet he continued to write in it despite ot not having a meaning at that time.

Just got a commercial basically telling you how to think about Finland and Sweden’s history as they are now our allies in NATO and even though they didn’t back us up in the world wars they’re still our friends against Russia and it made me decide to watch this again since this might as well be history class now

@c-c-combobreak

Жыл бұрын

Damn, is there really an ad like that? I need to watch it myself

@nothanks9503

Жыл бұрын

@@c-c-combobreak yep get ready to be shipped around the world to where the few thousands people with money need you to serve their wims never knowing what’s true anymore not even knowing what use to be true anymore after all best not to ask questions

@celtspeaksgoth7251

Жыл бұрын

and if they had joined two decades back when Putin was obliterating Chechnya then that would have sent a message. Now Sweden has manufactured a situation whereby Turkey feels compelled to veto their application for the honour of Islam, leaving Finland - which shares a loooong border with Russia - in the lurch. Neither will join.

@benedekgabor.

4 күн бұрын

@@celtspeaksgoth7251and they did.

Government: *rewrites history in a snap* Someone: wait a min- Thought police: *TERMINATED*

@mariamatedei

4 жыл бұрын

[[REDACTED]] *[data expunged]*

@williamhelms9942

4 жыл бұрын

Yup! Me too.

@evn2083

4 жыл бұрын

Vaporized

@legsof4928

4 жыл бұрын

@@mariamatedei SCP

@ClhCgu45

4 жыл бұрын

Julieta Avilés you didn’t say it new speak [Terminated]

It is strange, but Oceania could be just the Airstrip One (UK) and rest of the world to be "normal". And everything else to be propaganda. The antagonist never really go outside the Airstrip One and never really saw the war or anything else outside the Airstrip One.

@calvincasis3993

3 жыл бұрын

Yea you have a point just like in the movie “V”

@TripWagstaff5213

3 жыл бұрын

That’s my theory too

@harper277

3 жыл бұрын

Living in Britain feels like the rest of the world is a distant memory or a holiday destination.

@drakep.5857

3 жыл бұрын

That's always been my theory. That airstrip 1 is a north korea-like nation.

@neinzukorruption9321

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. And Russia may not be the pure evil. Try to start a rational discussion. Good Luck. Was a good thing to have known you. At least until my brain gets washed.

I sure am glad that pointless forever wars only exist in fiction.

Literally 1984

Me: Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself INGSOC: Is that a thought crime there boi?

@lyrical8067

4 жыл бұрын

Jeff who?

@Icetea-2000

4 жыл бұрын

[Epstein killed himself and Epstein never existed] is what you must say by the order of the thought police

@slk7376

4 жыл бұрын

Oopsy Daisy! You did a Thwught cwime! Now you have to go in the *[Never existed]* BOX

@wade4776

4 жыл бұрын

@Door _ finally somebody normal

@wade4776

4 жыл бұрын

The Epstien conspiracy theory will never materialize

I like that this book in a great many of countries was at some point banned in schools but later became compulsory reading material. Orwell to my mind is the greatest writer of all time.

Something in the book which I find interesting is that the constant war is in fact a tactic used by the party, the never ending bombs being dropped helps in maintaining a sense of patriotism within the proles that limits dissent.

@zaidnava562

3 ай бұрын

wait a minute. that feels familiar

@UncleMort

Ай бұрын

But is there actually a war going on?

Luckily we will never see this situation come to life. Right? Right? *RIGHT?!*

@merrittanimation7721

7 жыл бұрын

Well since we're having this thread then it's not that bad. Yet.

@lukedetering4490

7 жыл бұрын

George Zhang *Looks at North Korea*

@AdamSmith-gs2dv

7 жыл бұрын

George Zhang Don't elect the left, they won't complete power like 1984!

@sudonim7552

7 жыл бұрын

*cough cough* North Korea *cough cough*

@misterbubbles6389

7 жыл бұрын

No. It could never really happen, and even if it did, there's no way it would last. It's even implied at the end of the book itself that this society does eventually collapse. 1984 is a great metaphor for the dangers of complacency, lack of control over information, and totalitarianism. It serves as a warning for what we should never let our world become. But is it realistic? No. Orwell never saw the rise of technology like the internet and that's not going away anytime soon. Information will always be out there, people will value their ability to acquire information, and if things get out of hand, corrupt leaders will have their people turn against them. Even if there is an attempt to control this information, it's going to fail. It's just too big to censor or control, plus it's filled with people who will do everything in their power. Add to that continent-spanning nations and you're neglecting to learn from the fall of the Roman Empire; a nation that is too large and too unprepared is destined to collapse. This is why neglecting the past will lead to the same mistakes. People look at North Korea as being a carbon copy of 1984, but it's really not. The people there don't always accept the reality depicted by the government as inherently true, otherwise there wouldn't be so many defectors. People there live under a shadow of fear of what will happen if they disagree, not Doublethink. Some may have been seduced by the ideas the state plants in their minds, but people there have always been trying to learn about the outside world. As technology advances, that's becoming easier and easier to do. With enough time, I can see a rebellion in their future. 1984 is a partial satire/partial exploration of the dangers of a society not thinking deeply. It wasn't to be taken as a literal example of what the future will bring. People can go on and on about the politicians they hate and the policies they disagree with, but I highly doubt this sort of future will ever come to pass.

Why am I not surprised that this book was banned in the Soviet Union and the Eastern Bloc?

@nes3sese734

5 жыл бұрын

Cuz it's pretty obvious

@LilRotte3

5 жыл бұрын

You've got to be really special to think that life in the USSR was like that.

@lazaruspurity5568

5 жыл бұрын

Mikoyanshik What was it like?

@lazaruspurity5568

5 жыл бұрын

Mikoyanshik You where alive back then?

@LilRotte3

5 жыл бұрын

Anything but being fed synthetic food and being constantly under the watch.

Fascinating video❤

I need more alternative realities like this it is so interesting to see a alternative World.

The most memorable thing from 1984 was how every small event in the ongoing war was described as producing "measurable progress" towards the successful conclusion of the war. The phrasing implies that there will be an end, but is meaningless as to how much, or in what way, the event under discussion contributed to the progress. Presumably this is a reflection of Orwell's experience in the last few years of WW2 with a long list of battles fought all across the world.

@SK-le1gm

2 жыл бұрын

The USA just left Afghanistan after almost 20 years of “measurable progress”. Funny how that works 🍻

@genekelly8467

Жыл бұрын

Like the USA "war" in Afghanistan-battles fought, no victories, just enormous expenditures benefitting the arms industry. Many generals careers made by 20 years in this endless war.

@cockoffgewgle4993

Жыл бұрын

One of the most literally prescient aspects is the idea of 3 superpowers engaging in continuous proxy wars. That's what's been happening for the last 20 years at least. Certainly between the US and Russia, at least. Syria, particularly, was just that.

@Squatwithsquall

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like Covid just get the jab and it will stop

@trentp8035

Жыл бұрын

Ukraine will be the same, endless wars

So Ingsoc is KZread and the Proles are the Comments Section?

@mediocreman3363

7 жыл бұрын

Dan Root ya.

@wheelbender5554

7 жыл бұрын

Dan Root But just like in the book the proles are powerless

@Bloodlyshiva

7 жыл бұрын

KZread itself-even the Internet itself-is the sort of thing that might be created to service the Proles. The point is to keep them....satisfied and patriotic enough to keep paying their taxes and do more work. As the book(Not just '1984' but 'the book-Goldstein's book') puts it 'They are allowed intellectual freedom because they have no intellect.' Any truly dangerous thinkers are marked down and destroyed. Think of all the little arguments and comment arguments and cat videoes and memes and so on. Meanwhile the entire country is just crumbling and breaking down.

@the1exnay

7 жыл бұрын

we have always been at war with reddit

@user-cu7ow7ro4n

7 жыл бұрын

2% are KZread Heroes.

When my dad was in Highschool, 1984 was required reading since it was very detailed

@Pmf95k

29 күн бұрын

It’s still required for 11th grade where I’m at.

@TheAechBomb

15 күн бұрын

for us it was fahrenheit 451, but they cover similar concepts

Just finished reading it! It was really good and I loved how it conveyed its message

The subtitles render "Ingsoc" as "In Sock" Hahahah-- *ARRESTED BY THOUGHT POLICE*

@omaralsaadi1751

6 жыл бұрын

+Owen Harrison-Townsend You just mentioned KittyTac , you have commited a thought crime *gets arrested and sent to ministry of love* ~Thought Police

@8ballentertainment.885

6 жыл бұрын

BEGONE THOTS!!!!!!

@LotsaJunk

6 жыл бұрын

begone thought criminal

@thecosmiclatte8080

6 жыл бұрын

ATTENTION, THIS IS THE THOUGHT POLICE, AND WE WILL FIND YOU, RYAN *thoughts intensifies*

Just finished this book and I feel empty inside. I thought there would be some climax but Winston is just broken. Sad as hell man. Also the part about him not being able to prove he is “real” is super dark.

@MrCrystal09

Жыл бұрын

Derealization?

@eatyourcereal6577

11 ай бұрын

Also the fact that when he and Julia part, the lyrics of the chestnut tree finally make sense, it's a punch in the stomach lol. I literally just finished reading it half an hour ago and I feel so hopeless lol

@sarasamaletdin4574

10 ай бұрын

I don’t really know how he got that brainwashed. Broken certainly, it’s a miracle he can function. But why he thinks he loves Big Brother I don’t know. Maybe they put some chemicals in or some of the brainwashing was off screen

@darkchocolate1083

4 ай бұрын

Well apparently, the appendix of the book refers to the regime in the past tense, so at least it seems Ingsoc gets overthrown eventually.

I find it interesting how, when my Dad read this, the events in the book still spoke of the future

1984: "History is a matter of opinion" Timothy Snyder: Say no more...

"I'm not touching that subject" Good call, big -tech- brother is watching

@user-dq6gu1hy2y

2 жыл бұрын

Small bro

@watsuphumans3581

2 жыл бұрын

!

But what about all the oil in the middle ea- *there was never any oil there*

@theq4602

6 жыл бұрын

what is this oil you speak of?

@qualityqueensfirstbomb6450

6 жыл бұрын

Daniel von Strangle *Gets vaporized* Mentioning the made up movement of feminism is a thought crime, watch out.

@crunch1757

6 жыл бұрын

SGT Mango there is no middle

@putraduha3176

6 жыл бұрын

Daniel von Strangle no use man, proles are all equally miserable

@richardgibson8403

5 жыл бұрын

SGT Mango What about sayo- *No one is named sayori. Just Monika.*