The Dust Collector.. is Dusty.. // Good or bad you decide.
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Pre-Ordered this ages ago and completely forgot about it until it showed up! The Dust Collector is an All Analog Fx Box, Multi-effects unit, whatever you want to call it. It has an Analog Spring reverb, phaser, delay, you get the idea. Long story short, i love it and it bugs me all at the same time. It's not necessarily a Dust Collector review, but its the closest i could get to one. Hope you enjoy, if you want to hear even crazier sounds check out Hainbach's Video on it here - • An analog multi-effect...
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00:00 Some Initial Thoughts
01:50 The Phaser is amazing
04:55 Skillshare
06:12 Dust Collector Cons
07:24 The Delay distorts too much
09:45 The Spring Reverb sounds weird?
11:03 The Tape Makes it worth it
14:58 Weird Issues with Bleed
16:08 Spring LFO Bleed?
17:14 I think i solved the issues
19:08 Playing Spring Reverb Manual
21:00 Patching Multiple Things at Once
22:22 LFOs are great
23:43 Final Thoughts and Jam
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20:27 hyped for Ricky's descent into experimental noise music :P
@nocoolkidsallowed8787
2 жыл бұрын
It happens to the best of us
The mono only outs just saved me a few hundred money bucks. Thanks Ricky!
This machine seems to be more aimed at people making old school Reggae/DUB ala King Tubby, Lee Scratch Perry, etc. Especially with the spring that you can slap.
@wishwashstudios437
3 жыл бұрын
No.
@thelo-fidelityarchive597
3 жыл бұрын
That was my immediate thought looking at this. It's the ultimate Dub-In-One-Box machine, or at least it's trying to be.
This has been hovering around my 'to buy' list since Hainbach featured it. Be interesting to hear a different take on this, thanks for featuring it.
I bought this thinking it was a straight forward multi-fx unit, so I could finally axe all my digital effect vsts..... boy was I wrong. This thing has grit, grime and even analogue high fidelity when using a gentle touch/finesse.Things can get ugly quick but there's also a lot of happy little accident's with this box, making it good for sonic exploration, which is what I want from an electronic instrument..a universe in a box. As a musical tool this is somewhere between a sledge hammer and a jewellers saw.
hey ricky, just wanted to say i think your new ep is fantastic. in love with the bass lines and the funky percussion and the warbly chords/pads. personally its my favorite of your releases so far, so im stoked for whatever comes next.
@RickyTinez
2 жыл бұрын
oh Alaskan Chops! Thank you so much! just seeing this now
The name of this device is spot on. They should release another one named “The Paperweight ”.
Hainbach is my dude, but you were the one who I was really waiting to here from on this.
go into it -18dB and everything will be fine. It’s calibrated that way.
You cracked me up with the "Hey, didn't see you there"! I bet you laughed too hard at this, hence the cut! Lovely video as always, that phaser does sound gorgeous!
@TristanBaldi
3 жыл бұрын
I had paused on the first cut to comment this, and after commenting, saw the "oh that was bad", you got me twice!
Sometimes it feels like all my synths are dust collectors :/
@wendigo2442
3 жыл бұрын
Give them to me i will love and cherish you forever
@musicdefinesgravity
3 жыл бұрын
Wish I had synths that collect dust
@dankhill6851
3 жыл бұрын
learn how to put music together, instead of playing with synths. instruments are fun on their own, but lose their luster when you don't put songs together, in ways that are new to you. Good luck!
@wendigo2442
3 жыл бұрын
@@dankhill6851 you can do thst inside the synth if it's a good one
@zeusdeux
3 жыл бұрын
It’s ok. Just wash em
Very good review - helping me a lot in deciding 'buy' vs 'wait'... I've been following the progress of this unit since the announcement during a Superbooth (2019? 2020?). On their website it says "the dust collector is the first of series of FX..." so I am going to wait for the second/third/... when they make it (1) stereo and (2) a little bit less or controllable noisy. The LoFi side of this box gives it character but with paying 500euros/dollars should give the user the option to dial in or out that big noise. Thanks and enjoy the rest of the weekend!
Thank you for this review! I also saw Hainbach's video and started lusting after this box but now...I still want one, but it is definitely moving lower down my list. It seems much narrower in the sounds it will help you make.
Once you started playing with the spring, I started to understand what this unit is actually for. Definitely doesn't seem like a box you'll find a lot of use for, but in the right hands I bet it's magical.
@RickyTinez
3 жыл бұрын
exactly its weirdly niche, for a few different types of producers. i like it to dirty the drums up a bit, and the phaser on pads. but you can also get a similar sound with other options
Ricky Tinez as Hainbach stated these are effects from 70’s pedals hence, ‘archive’
@izme4700
3 жыл бұрын
Y
lol the "playing the spring" revelation was my favorite. tight, indeed. at the end it sounds like those toms just kinda smear out into bitcrushed noise and I think it sounds just magical. thanks for the vid
"You hear this haunting? What is this?!" LMFAO. In all seriousness, great review. I've been wanting to pull the trigger on this for quite some time and haven't. After watching your review, glad I held off. There are tons of cool applications for this thing and it sounds incredible at times, but the non stereo and non normalled signal path was just a bit too much for me to justify.
I ordered mine today as the orders were full for months. I so can't wait to get this. First thing I'm doing is running some rubbish VST's through it to warm them up. That's the tester for me. By the way when that clipped, it sounded excellent 👍
Awesome vid, I definitely going to buy this!!!! Loved all of those sounds and noises!
Sometimes it takes me months before I'll sit down to investigate the gear I had bought. lol
Love you too 🥰 Always worth a watch, you’re a great music educator!
I can explain the weird reverb sound! Analog reverbs use feedback to make the tail of the verb longer… but you actually want to filter the signal that goes back into the input of the effect, otherwise things become too messy. It seems both LFOs are routed to the self oscillating filter frequency of the fed back signal making the resulting noise move in that weird way. It makes total sense considering the approach of the designers. The reverb won’t make your loops sound exactly the same twice and the result will always be more organic than a digital one at the cost of a worse noise to signal ratio.
@bruitsofficial
3 жыл бұрын
I was actually so proud of myself for nailing that possible explanation… I am such an analog nerd! XD
I pondered over this one since the Hainbach demo as well, but I already had gizmos that did everything, except for the spring reverb. There was just something that didn’t quite click for me in further demos so I ended up getting the Anasounds Element with the 3 different spring reverb lengths. An Andy Martin demo of it sold me solid on the thing.
Hey Ricky - Great review. Very interesting, particularly about the noise/crosstalk. having began recording in the days of tape, noise was always the bane and now I am slightly bemused by gear which makes a feature of it :-) Needless to say, distortion is not one of my favourite effects :-)
I'd never heard of this one but loving the gritty distorted nature. Might have to invest in this!
Looks aesthetically pleasing
i saw the hainbach video back then. When the dust collector was in your video description today, my first thought was: "this is not the right device for ricky's music" ... I was sure that they sent you this for a "review" and I am very surprised that you bought it yourself .. .anyway, I hope it stays with you and we will hear and see it again with you sometimes. btw. very funny: "Yeah we can play with the springs" xD
Still sounds pretty clean to my ears, nice tones
gif @ 1:45 done. thanks mate. I love those knob clicks- sounds like a sturdy bubba
If you want to go deeper into spring reverb rabbit hole: Vermona Retroverb Lancet - Spring Reverb combined with a filter. It is really dope and versatile.
@lineriderrulz
3 жыл бұрын
These things aren't too common and are actually super super good. I got one instead of an Elektron Analog Heat and have no regrets. I find the actual reverb to be an acquired taste, but there is so much more to it than that. it's the filter is great, and it's really practical for warming up a signal (gotta love the drive and that "balls" knob) and adding nuance with the EG, LFO and so on, while being very fun to just tweak.
@RickyTinez
3 жыл бұрын
Yea i can hear it be pretty badass through a BandPass Filter, allow you to cut out a ton of the rattley lowend
@GeekGearSynths
3 жыл бұрын
@@RickyTinez With some LFO action you can even get some kind of delay effect.
@girlinagale
3 жыл бұрын
I got a Retroverb in April, adore the Tanzbär 2 through it. Just got a 2nd Retroverb to put several Tanzbär individual outs through (via a mixer).
@GeekGearSynths
3 жыл бұрын
@@girlinagale Currently, I use it on a 303 clone. How do you like the Tanzbär 2?
i reaaaaally like your videos vibe , so cleaaan , keep up bro
Mine just came in, but I haven't had a chance to play with it yet. Very excited to try it!
The Dust Collector is epic! It will make OK synths sound good, and good synths sound great. It works well in post-prod too. Not for the amateurs/hobbyists, definitely geared more for the serious composer/sound designers. Thanks for posting :)
all those cons made me want to own one
“Let me un plug this…” “BOING!!” Best noise ever ;p
@RickyTinez
4 ай бұрын
hahahah!
looks interesting, I think it'll match my sound
Got mine in late April. I agree with pretty much everything you say in this video; I find the mono aspect particularly challenging. But I think I'm gonna stick with it.
@Decoy303
2 жыл бұрын
Use it for drums. Those need to be in mono anyways. I Also think a good filter helps as well to keep things balanced.
The Analog Heat is a gem. It makes everything sound better and the filter is a nice bonus.
@richiedon9133
3 жыл бұрын
nah,. it sounds like plastic. rytm, analog 4 ,cycles & analog heat are the worst of the elektrons
@bitspacemusic
3 жыл бұрын
@@richiedon9133 WTF have you been smoking? Analog Heat doesn't make sound. I bet you haven't used any of those.
@richiedon9133
3 жыл бұрын
@@bitspacemusic duh. i have both MD SPS1 UW+1 MK2 & MNM MK2 & another MD...the silver boxes. those are the only good ones. i bet you haven't release any music on vinyl \bahahaha
@richiedon9133
3 жыл бұрын
@@Phoenix_2A only the elite & purists have the right to call them trash. trust me...the 2nd hand marketplace is filled with A4s desperate to be sold
@inf0tr8r
3 жыл бұрын
@@richiedon9133 i agree, heat sounds like crap to me
Synth Saturdays are the best days!
@RickyTinez
3 жыл бұрын
Happy to have you around Martti
I love this thing. Looks like a whole load of fun. I'd love to have a play with one of these things. Currently, I use my SP404 in the same kind of way, just a glorified effects box
@jackpijjin4088
3 жыл бұрын
I do the same with my 404. I put mellotron samples on it too, though, and if it loaded faster I would get more use out of it as a proper instrument. This thing just seems... not 'useless', but pointless. Especially when you can assemble all of the individual parts from really cheap pedals (+ a springverb).
u are my #1 discovery since covid... Bless up!!!
First time on your channel. Interest in the Dust Collector brought me here. Yesterday i was DEFINITELY gonna buy it, after your review I think maybe not, though I'm still intrigued. I LOVE dub and I already have all the Benidub pedals but I'm always curious what else there is. The Phaser definitely sounds interesting. Moog delay and reverb sound a lot better to my ear. The clipping on the delay here concerned me.
This thing has a ton of potential. I’m getting one!
Also unbalanced cables can pick up interference in the room and those thin Hosa cables aren't shielded really. Some gear can amplify this. For example I have had a few effect pedals that would pick up radio stations and would play that randomly through my guitar amp
@Scorpion573
3 жыл бұрын
that was always so funny to hear during practice
@RickyTinez
3 жыл бұрын
my Octatrack MK1 would play a Mexican radio station everytime i touched it if it was off haha, i sampled it.
@tb80038
3 жыл бұрын
@@RickyTinez nice, hah!
@dudemanxx
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidhays2846 cool read, thanks for sharing
@eugeneortiz7141
3 жыл бұрын
@@RickyTinez your OT knows what’s up! 😂🤣
3:50 hahaha every non-musician would think youre trying to communicate with aliens, but what you said made perfect sense for me lmao
parabéns Ricky ! adquiriste uma maquina de efeitos monstruosa!!!!!
About bleed, always check everything without a patchbay to narrow it down. My patchbay was...I mean it is...the weak spot in my hardware and I'm frustrated about it. But about the Dust Collector: I really want to add this to my arsenal, but it's not easy to get one. The noisefloor it creates may be suitable to "glue" sound together (at least in some genres) in a pleasant way. Would be my "end-of-chain"-choice, if it wasn't for the mono-path.
Neat box! George says he doesn't want a Dust Collector. I told George to get a Dreadbox Hypnosis instead.
Fantastic review as always! Maybe some of the noise is rf interference?
I got mine a month ago. Love it.
Besides being a funky audio processor, it also makes cool moiré visual effects.
so tape "5" is like dj seinfeld's tracks! I dig it!
@RickyTinez
3 жыл бұрын
haha basically!
really enjoy your vids, thanks. Quick Q, is the audio we hear from your headphones?
Definitely a rad little box seems like a great ambient companion that tape saturation is sexy. Anything that add cv is also a game changer
Dude that's a nice view of that pond
I would use the heck out of this thing on all my sampled loops.
This is a dream piece of kit if you are into noise as the musical output and not just using it as a series of FX pedals as a utility. I think of it as a foley generator, adding character and individuality to the background of your productions. A malleable tape saturation/manipulation effect. I like to make long soundscapes with it and a JMT synth, then implement that into another production.
"Hey.. didn't see you there 😏😏" 😂😂
Ricky... if you could somehow get your hands on a Vermona Perfourmer, I would love to see your walkthrough video. One of my fave synths presented by one of my fave KZread presenters :) Go on... you know its right!
love ur shirt, it looks so comfy. you got a link?
Desireable piece of kit, despite crosstalk and overall simplicity. Patchability is a big plus, and I like the brand of crunch of the tapehead. I run just about every track over a tube Studer before mixing, so being able to track through some more colored heads is risky by comparison.
I’m mostly back ITB now, but when I had more hardware I got to a point when I only used balanced cables for everything. Otherwise I never knew if I would randomly have noise issues.
Great video. I've really been interested in this little effects box. Could that noise be some kind of grounding / current bleed?
I thought this video would be about the gear that collect the dust. 😂
This reminds me of the Retroverb Lancet, except with patch cables instead of switches. You get similar noise and gaining. [Also, with the RVL you can override to it wig out and make cartoon video game noises. Weird AF]
jam at the end was tight too
those dubbed out springs are so sick
This thing is DOPE
the dust collector sound AMAZING....at least to my ears!
Your review is great as always. But I really don't get why when a KZreadr gets a delay with CV input, he or she doesn't demo flanger and chorus. You're not the only one, but I'm really surprised not to hear this. I think I saw a review of the Dust Distillerby Hainbach, and that was the same...
Bought it. Love it.
I love it!
Dude of course the delay distorts too much if your switch is on madness mode which gets feedback fully on. Also you doesn’t seem to get a right gain staging. This is not a plug-in, it really distorts as it should when you overdrive the inputs of analog effects. For example you overdrive the phaser on the start of the video. I have analog delays and spring Reverbs and yes they are noisy, especially if you are not careful with the noise to signal ratio.
hahahahahaha god damn it Ricky, you are so fucking awesome, i laughed so hard at the sponsor part hahahahah can my record label sponsor you, we dont make any money yet lol
@daneguitarist1
3 жыл бұрын
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From the title I figured this was some synth that Ricky didn’t use and hid away on a shelf. 😂
@DystopianTofuTV
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@publicdoename5338
3 жыл бұрын
I tend to love the items he doesn't. This is such a cool fx unit. Ricky, this poor Indiana cat would happily take your non-showroom gear 😉
Nr one channel. Alpha to the omega. ❤️
conflicted on this one.. been interested since hainbach featured it (running theme here) if you're working with a single aux send this might be pretty sick as a sole effect box (most mixer sends are mono out so no biggie on mono only imo). big knobs for easy tweaking. it's large but consider that once you chain 2-3 pedals together you're already ending up with a cablely mess anyway (at least that happens to me) i'll take one box any day. i'd rly like to see if they continue this line - love the concept but the delay & sat aren't killer enough for me to sub this for the deco that lives on my send now. would love to play with that reverb tho...
Ya comin in too hot! It's gonna blow!
holy shit dude, is that little waterfall at your house? Talk about zen crib.
@RickyTinez
3 жыл бұрын
hahah i wish, i aint ballin'
I have it... love it
feel like one of these and my MPC1000 probably wanna be friends, gonna try and find an used one at some point
nice video ! weird question but wht's your black and green keyboard ?
Yo what is the expansion card you are using for your JV????? That patch is right on the edge of silent hill 2 OST vibes no joke and now I need it.
Care to share what mic you used here? The voice is ultra clear
The reason why I didn't get one was because of no mixer and extremely limited patch points.
That delay is a deal breaker.
Sir, General Noise would like to see you in the Dust Collector ASAP!
What a beautiful synth tho.
I feel like Boards of Canada territory is where this would thrive...
Maybe the spring, the actual spring, is picking up the LFO's / etc. inductively...
I think all the noise and bleeding comes from one PSU for all effects. Ask a guitarist about powering a pedal-board. There is a ton of isolators and such involved if you want to have it noise-free. And since this seems to be just a massive overprized collection of guitar-pedal-circuits... I don't know...
@Marquinhos1901
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. I’m getting into synths from the world of guitar and bass and yes you can easily set something up where you can use your guitar and bass pedals and those pedals are objectively cheaper than most of these synths.
Memories of kicking the guitar player's amp to get the spring going ... Note to self - Get the JV-80 repaired ...
Good or bad is subjective but that thing objectively ugly 😍 I fall in love too easily.
Bring on the bleed!
Does it clip when the signal input is quiter You try only minimizing the gain output
Hi Ricky can I ask what headphones you use?
Anybody know if there is an ableton plugin either remaking this or analogous to it, for those of us that can't afford to but the instrument? I've felt like I'm lacking a good dub effects method for a while so if you know anything analogous to this lmk
I've been saying since this thing was first announced that it's kind of a crap product. I have one because I thought it would be great for dub and dub techno but it's just an expensive shit box.
It should sound better for taking up that much desk space.
back again, for the whu whu.. whu whu... :D nah, looking at bit crushers and analog effects options and this box is back on my radar... pz.