The DUMBEST IDEA in Monday Night Football HISTORY

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In 2003, with the ratings for Monday Night Football declining, NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue proposed an idea to ABC to try and increase the ratings. The only problem? This idea was so mind-numbingly stupid, to the point where not a single entity involved would've benefitted from it. This is the story behind the stupidest idea in the history of Monday Night Football, and how Paul Tagliabue nearly destroyed the product with this horrible idea
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  • @erickennedy8534
    @erickennedy85342 жыл бұрын

    The reason why MNF decrease in late 90's was bad announcing , and the Monday night wrestling wars. Football was not going to admit they were losing to wresting.

  • @ThorMaximus

    @ThorMaximus

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is an incredibly stupid take

  • @2themoon863

    @2themoon863

    2 жыл бұрын

    No it isn’t; at that time the Monday Night Wars in wrestling, and the aftermath after WWF/E bought WCW, had higher ratings than MNF, in an era where an entire season of MNF was so bad no team scored over 30 points in any game and many were snoozefests. Bringing in Dennis Miller “backfired” only because that first season Miller was there almost every game was crazy or interesting, and went down to the wire-much like many of the prime time games this season have been.

  • @uncletaylorify

    @uncletaylorify

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope....Monday wrestling ratings were HUGE in the 90's

  • @ceebee312

    @ceebee312

    2 жыл бұрын

    New new new worrlld orderr For lyyffe . Ahh nostalgia

  • @theecharmingbilly

    @theecharmingbilly

    2 жыл бұрын

    While Dennis Miller was dreadful with his whole obnoxious obscure referencr schtick, bad football and wrestling is why those ratings sank.

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan3162 жыл бұрын

    I won't hold one dumb idea by Tagliabue against him, seeing as Goodell comes up with a dumb idea every week seemingly.

  • @MNsportsnut

    @MNsportsnut

    2 жыл бұрын

    Everyone can have dumb ideas. Tagliabue for the most part was a great Commissioner.

  • @rileykazama3145

    @rileykazama3145

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MNsportsnut and he wasn't power-hungry like Goodell was

  • @MNsportsnut

    @MNsportsnut

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rileykazama3145 That's for sure.

  • @notoriouseagle1074

    @notoriouseagle1074

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rileykazama3145 Nor did he hand down over the top penalties like Roger.

  • @rileykazama3145

    @rileykazama3145

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@notoriouseagle1074 that is so true

  • @NickGerse
    @NickGerse2 жыл бұрын

    It is worth mentioning that pro wrestling was the hot ticket on Monday nights in the late 90s. Well over 10 million people were watching WWF Raw and WCW Nitro over MNF back then

  • @lsusaints36horton45

    @lsusaints36horton45

    2 жыл бұрын

    When nitro and raw was on commercial u watched mnf. That what i did

  • @ajk

    @ajk

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was gonna say, Raw was mentioned, but for a time from around 96 to 98-early 99, Nitro was as big and for a while bigger. And once they both went to 2 hours min (3 sometimes for Nitro) from early 97 onward, MNF had even bigger competition than before.

  • @scottgreenberg1596

    @scottgreenberg1596

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also, the ratings from the Dennis Miller era were probably bad.

  • @jasonjgr8580

    @jasonjgr8580

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lsusaints36horton45 how can anyone watch that fake gay wwf WCW shit.

  • @brettpatterson404

    @brettpatterson404

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jasonjgr8580 the only thing gayer is the porn you secretly watch on your phone.

  • @effend446
    @effend4462 жыл бұрын

    What's interesting is that NOBODY mentions what really contributed to the decline in Monday Night Football by the late-90's: It was unrestricted free agency/increased player turnover, the salary cap, and the subsequent parity that took shape across the NFL as we know it, today. Back in the 70's and 80's, there were none of those things in the NFL. Player turnover was very minimal. So when the schedule came out (usually based on a teams performance the previous season), it was a safe bet to schedule teams on MNF late-season knowing that that late-season game was guaranteed to have major playoff implications, or at least, winning teams. The NFL's current formula of parity makes it more unpredictable in scheduling Monday night games (and still achieving maximum ratings), whereas Sunday games can be more easily flexed.

  • @bonafide9781
    @bonafide97819 ай бұрын

    And now Monday Night football will have two games anyway (one on ESPN, the other on ABC). Whoever thought that was a good idea really should be fired.

  • @fortynights1513

    @fortynights1513

    9 ай бұрын

    In particular whoever represented the other networks in negotiations.

  • @devious187
    @devious1872 жыл бұрын

    Man, the WWF/E and WCW were destroying MNF in the ratings with their Monday night shows at the turn of the century. No one watched football on Monday nights cuz everyone wanted to see who The Rock was gonna call a jabroni this week lol

  • @donaldpaluga

    @donaldpaluga

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nowadays Blah is getting cremated in the ratings even WHEN it isn't football season

  • @DolFan316

    @DolFan316

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@donaldpaluga All pro wrestling is. That industry is on its last legs. Even AEW hardly gets any viewers because it promotes "wokeism".

  • @theecharmingbilly

    @theecharmingbilly

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eh Wrestling has always had huge peaks and valleys before and after the advent of television. It always makes a come back, it will again.

  • @altfactor
    @altfactor2 жыл бұрын

    You mixed the biggest reason of all. If there was no flex scheduling under the "Two games on Monday nights" proposal, the network might have been stuck one week with two games, both of which could have had two last place teams already out of playoff contention, because the schedule would have been locked up in advance.

  • @johnharris6655
    @johnharris66552 жыл бұрын

    I forgot the Rams went from being the Greatest Show on Turf to being very bad in less than 4 years.

  • @danmount9462
    @danmount94622 жыл бұрын

    Put Monday Night Football back on ABC and end Dancing with the C-Listers.

  • @matthewdaley746

    @matthewdaley746

    2 жыл бұрын

    America's Cruelest Home Videos is still going, that could be here for a while.

  • @americangiant1003

    @americangiant1003

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually starting next Fall for the 2022 season, several more (not all)MNF games on ESPN will also shown on ABC. Kind of the same current setup where out of the 14 games of Thursday Night Football on NFL Network about 1/2 of the games are also shown on Fox. However starting next season in ‘22, the Thursday games will only be seen on Amazon not counting Opening Night and The Thanksgiving Holiday Triple header of games.

  • @matthewdaley746

    @matthewdaley746

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@americangiant1003 They really had to justify paying the extra money, somehow.

  • @fromthehaven94

    @fromthehaven94

    2 жыл бұрын

    Castle was the only show I liked on that network that aired on Monday nights.

  • @matthewdaley746

    @matthewdaley746

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fromthehaven94 Nathan Filion makes, The Rookie, truly, so, much better than it has any right to be.

  • @nasetvideos
    @nasetvideos2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! This was a fantastic job of reporting on NFL and MNF-TV history. Love the "Reasons This Idea Was Bad" board. The whole video was excellent

  • @russs7574
    @russs75742 жыл бұрын

    And what really is amazing is that Roger Goodell makes Tagliabue look like a Rhodes Scholar.

  • @kellypringle9815
    @kellypringle98152 жыл бұрын

    In the 2000s, good teams were different than the 90s. We had the Dallas Cowboys, San Francisco 49ers and Green Bay Packers. In the 2000s, we had St. Louis Rams, Tennessee Titans, Tampa Bay Bucs, Baltimore Ravens, New England Patriots. ABC was thinking that the good teams of the 90s would be good in the 2000s.

  • @brianarbenz1329
    @brianarbenz13292 жыл бұрын

    The biggest ratings problem for MNF is Tuesday mornings. When so many viewers were college students or 20-somethings with part time jobs, staying with the Monday night games to the final gun was natural. In a few years, they have the 9-to-5 job, and if the score is 38-10 midway in the 3rd Q, it’s lights out.

  • @mrmoose6619
    @mrmoose66192 жыл бұрын

    Another thing: every team gets one primetime game a year between the three primetime slots. What if your team's only primetime game was the Monday Night "B" game... especially if you're an out of market fan without Sunday Ticket?

  • @SamnissArandeen

    @SamnissArandeen

    Жыл бұрын

    That rule's changed now that there's so many primetime/national games. Kickoff, 3x Thanksgiving, 15x Thursday, 17x Monday, 18x Sunday. 54 total primetime games with 108 (nice) slots for teams. Any three teams in the league can have a maximum of six, the rest a maximum of five. And of course there's the stuff like the International Series which air super early, and the times CBS or FOX have a single nationally televised game in the late slot.

  • @tylercunningham4311
    @tylercunningham43119 ай бұрын

    The late 90s in WWF, Stone Cold and the Attitude Era, the peak of WWF, and the peak of WCW.

  • @99dndd
    @99dndd4 ай бұрын

    Tagliabue’s idea fixed 1 problem and created a dozen more.

  • @alstonproductions1018
    @alstonproductions10182 жыл бұрын

    Craziest thing is they’re going to do something like that this upcoming season

  • @Samjay724
    @Samjay724 Жыл бұрын

    Every year the first Monday night of the season should be a super bowl rematch from the year before

  • @99dndd

    @99dndd

    4 ай бұрын

    I’d have the 1st Thursday game be a rematch, so the 1st game of a new season is a rematch of the last game of the old.

  • @someperson3883
    @someperson38832 жыл бұрын

    Also due to a Bills game in 2014 there was: Jets @ Bills and Ravens @ Saints Both on Monday

  • @Ezoangelofdeath
    @Ezoangelofdeath9 ай бұрын

    This was smack dab in the middle of Attitude era in WWF, that had to have something to do with it.

  • @altfactor
    @altfactor Жыл бұрын

    There WERE occasions during the regular season while John Madden worked for either CBS or Fox when games he called were televised nationally to every TV market. They were either Thanksgiving Day or a late season Saturday afternoon game that would've featured a Grade-A matchup.

  • @danielmackey9765
    @danielmackey97652 жыл бұрын

    Dennis Miller was the worst MNF move ever made. That was terrible and hard to listen to.

  • @donkeyfong
    @donkeyfong2 жыл бұрын

    In 2010 Vikings Giants was moved to Monday Night so the teams could go to Detroit after the Metrodome roof collapse. Started an hour earlier than Texans/Ravens but still went head to head. They gave out free tickets to residents of the Detroit area who then went in and booed the home team Vikings

  • @donkeyfong

    @donkeyfong

    2 жыл бұрын

    Was the end of the Favre consecutive start streak

  • @jasong428

    @jasong428

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Vikings are worthy of hating. Lions fans have to pretend to contend

  • @americangiant1003

    @americangiant1003

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not to mention Frank, that rescheduled Vikings/Giants Metrodome to Detroit was shown only on the local Fox Stations in Metro New York City, Minneapolis/St Paul and I think Detroit. Heard that Goodell tried to also have that Vikings -Giants game simulcast on the NFL Network as well. However ESPN said NO. FYI because of that roof collapse it basically forced a deal between the Vikings and the state of Minnesota to end up building what is now US Bank Stadium which opened about 6-7 years later.

  • @donkeyfong

    @donkeyfong

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@americangiant1003 The NFL ended up replaying the Giants/Vikings game at midnight that night

  • @americangiant1003

    @americangiant1003

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@donkeyfong You mean that rescheduled Vikings/Giants game in Detroit was replayed on NFL Network at Midnight that evening right?

  • @sdrob6374
    @sdrob63742 жыл бұрын

    I remember that 03 Charger game 11:37 it was moved to Phoenix because of wildfires . I worked at the Qualcomm stadium and was notified earlier that week the game was moving because the parking lot was being used for emergency fire response

  • @Hodaggium
    @Hodaggium2 жыл бұрын

    In 2002, Monday Night Football ratings were lower than if you spiked the ball into the ground on every single play.

  • @benjaminpeters6729
    @benjaminpeters672910 ай бұрын

    The worst idea was hiring Dennis miller

  • @stephaniegormley9982
    @stephaniegormley99822 жыл бұрын

    2:19 Dennis Miller: "Hey babe, bringing in that guy was the worst idea since Neville Chamberlain tried to appease Hitler in '38 with the Munich agreement, woo hoo"

  • @DolFan316

    @DolFan316

    2 жыл бұрын

    *LMAO!!! YOU HAVE HIM DOWN PERFECTLY!!! EVERYTHING HE SAID WAS JUST LIKE THAT!!!*

  • @pronkb000

    @pronkb000

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Daily Show played an "audition tape" of Miller that was a riot. "Al, he just went around the corner like Kip Winger chasing a can of Aquanet...I haven't seen a defense collapse like that since Kemal Ataturk capitulated to the Austro-Hungarians." ... "Oh, nice pass Magoo. You're using a rattlesnake for a necktie. Good luck on your GED, Oppenheimer."

  • @tobiaswilliamson00
    @tobiaswilliamson004 ай бұрын

    4:36 Eagles and Chiefs played each other on MNF in 2023 after SBLVII

  • @nickmiller2065
    @nickmiller20655 ай бұрын

    I like how everyone thought this was a bad idea back then but now everyone seems to be okay with it because I’m pretty sure this happened about 4 times this year.

  • @OfficialJaguarGator9

    @OfficialJaguarGator9

    5 ай бұрын

    Two very different things. Today, it’s a doubleheader on 2 different networks (so one game is ABC and the other is ESPN). Back then, it was a doubleheader on the same network (so both games at the same time and they’re both on ABC and depending on where you are in the country, you get one of them and not the other) Today, it’s 2 nationally televised games on 2 networks. This proposal was 2 regionally televised games on 1 network

  • @WhatAG23
    @WhatAG239 ай бұрын

    I can’t believe they actually went for this for this season.

  • @MattJr4793
    @MattJr4793 Жыл бұрын

    I know this video is nearly a year & half old but a couple of things: 1. 4:38 that will change this year for the 2023 season & 2. last year in 2022 as well 2023 we had/will get a double shot of MNF everyone how things have quickly changed

  • @stevenbauer4799
    @stevenbauer47992 жыл бұрын

    That idea came around with tnf addition for nfl ten in '07 after the sorry ass teams that didn't deserve a prime time game whined about wanting a prime time game. And that is why tnf gets the worst of the worst teams like jets or jags get banned to. At least lions don't get any tnf spots since they have thanksgiving day game to stink things up. Only thing worse is those lovely london games where they get to see loser match-ups like jags/phins and jets falcons every year since nfl would never send any top match-ups ratings-type games over there for a 9:30 a m crowd, 6:30 a m on the west coast like when raiders played there a few years ago.

  • @mattm7798
    @mattm77982 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't they just schedule 2 Monday Night games and then let ABC decide which to broadcast. This would have to be done in advance because of CBS/FOX contracts. They kind of do this now with NBC Sunday Night Football getting to flex games toward the end of the season.

  • @tjones5719
    @tjones57192 жыл бұрын

    While I think there were challenges, they were not as large or real as what you stated. 1) You don’t have any issues with Madden. You sit down the week before the two games and figure out which one you are going to air nationwide. John and Al get assigned to that game. He still gets what he wanted. 2) Because of the ability to plan foe the games in advance you don’t even have to completely double your production costs as you do full cost for the game that deemed the prime one and partial production cost for the other. Costs will go up but not nearly double (and if you are creative it can even be controlled more): 3) You don’t seem to realize the power the NFL had then and now. They took away a game for Sunday night football, they eventually took away a game for Thursday night, this was well within the wheel house of NFL power over Fox and CBS. 4) Your likelihood of both games being a dud is very low. Now even two great teams can create a blowout, so that’s not what you can call a dud. A dud are the games that have no reason to watch because the teams aren’t in the playoff hunt. The chance that before the season you couldn’t pick between games and appropriately find two games and have both of them not be critical is very low. Take this year for instance. You would have taken Packers games, Buccaneers games, BIlls games, Tennessee games, Cowboys games, Steelers games, Browns games, Ravens games, Chiefs games, rivalry games, etc. and you wouldn’t have been wrong and the closest would have been the browns and Steelers but still good games. 5) You also fail to acknowledge the increase in ratings that could have happened may have been well worth it to ABC. If you can boost ratings by 10-20%, that may be enough to lure advertisers and offset those additional costs.

  • @erickennedy3322
    @erickennedy3322 Жыл бұрын

    From 96 thur 2001 pro wrestling killed MNF in the ratings .

  • @r.jackson7162
    @r.jackson71622 жыл бұрын

    For the Dennis Miller thing alone he shouldn't be in the hall.

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan3162 жыл бұрын

    Personally I think Thursday night football should be done away with. London games too.

  • @barrybach3685
    @barrybach36852 жыл бұрын

    Good history man! I remember when the Dolphins and Bears played on Monday Night.

  • @oneblankspace4919
    @oneblankspace4919 Жыл бұрын

    Nobody knew about Friends in 1994.

  • @fortynights1513

    @fortynights1513

    9 ай бұрын

    Friends was in its first season then. Got great ratings still though.

  • @d0nKsTaH
    @d0nKsTaH3 ай бұрын

    Guess you mean the first Super Bowl rematch to take place in the following regular season right? reference to the comment at 4:34..

  • @markmenning1804
    @markmenning18042 жыл бұрын

    There's just football on too many days

  • @Grandizer8989
    @Grandizer89892 жыл бұрын

    I miss the Bledsoe era uni’s

  • @bnx200
    @bnx2002 жыл бұрын

    I say Dennis Miller is the DUMBEST IDEA in Monday Night Football HISTORY

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    @MichaelMartin-qe5ye2 жыл бұрын

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  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 Жыл бұрын

    Paul Tagilbue never had a good idea. He was the second-worst commissioner.

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan3162 жыл бұрын

    MNF always had at least a couple of awful matchups every season, just because there's no foolproof way to predict what every team's record will be before every season. That was never an issue until turn of the century. I'm old enough to remember when things started to go bad, and it was for reasons that nobody could've fixed. In fact the harder people tried the worse it got. Even as far back as 2000, some people weren't going to watch even if it was a great game between the best teams in the league.

  • @SamnissArandeen

    @SamnissArandeen

    2 жыл бұрын

    The best fix is flex scheduling, but that's not happening across days. The other best fix is to make sure there's less garbage matchups in general, and don't expect the ginger to do that.

  • @drlove2172
    @drlove2172 Жыл бұрын

    Speaking of dumb ideas, you could do one on the bizarre decision by ABC to hire Dennis Miller as a color commentator.

  • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
    @manuginobilisbaldspot4242 жыл бұрын

    You could've ended it right at 3:45 and gone straight to Tagliabue's ill fated idea...the games just weren't as good. Too many blowouts and mediocre teams. Hell, that's what continues to plague MNF in today's environment.

  • @cgh7337

    @cgh7337

    2 жыл бұрын

    Along with TNF & SNF. Hell just last night, the Cowboys crushed WFT 56-14. The game was already decided 1/2 way through the FIRST QUARTER.

  • @Empr4evr
    @Empr4evr2 жыл бұрын

    MNF's dumbest idea: Dennis Miller

  • @jasonfire3434
    @jasonfire34342 жыл бұрын

    Starting in 2023, Monday Night Football flexing will officially be a thing for the last six weeks. It’s a welcome change. Also, in 2005 the NFL rescheduled the Giants-Saints game to Monday night in the Meadowlands because of Katrina, and aired it on ABC/ESPN. Game kicked off at 7:30 ET and then ABC switched to the regular game at 9 ET, so we eventually did have the two-Monday night games at the same time on national TV.

  • @tygrkhat4087

    @tygrkhat4087

    2 жыл бұрын

    In 2014, the Bills-Jets game scheduled for then Ralph Wilson Stadium was moved to Monday night at Ford Field in Detroit due to the storm known as "Snowvember," which buried areas south of Buffalo with 6 to 7 feet of snow in 24 hours. The game was shown on CBS, IIRC, but only to Buffalo and New York.

  • @rkid727
    @rkid7272 жыл бұрын

    2003 was also a bad year for quarterbacks. Manning, Brady, McNabb, and Favre was all there basically was. Don’t talk to me about McNair. He was not must see TV.

  • @jamesoliver6625
    @jamesoliver66252 жыл бұрын

    The idiots didn't realize that moving MNF from broadcast TV to cable, would KILL the casual viewer, when cable wasn't that prominent. I for one quit because I refused to both pay for a service and have that service bombard me with advertisements as well. One, or the other, but not both. So, since it moved from broadcast, I haven't seen MNF since. Haven't missed it either.

  • @timothyburns2768
    @timothyburns27682 жыл бұрын

    Dennis Miller was the stupidest decision

  • @russs7574

    @russs7574

    2 жыл бұрын

    The future Trumptards loved him.

  • @mikeposenke2345
    @mikeposenke23452 жыл бұрын

    I didn't think it was possible to find an idea that was worse than the hiring of Dennis Miller!

  • @Ezoangelofdeath

    @Ezoangelofdeath

    9 ай бұрын

    Rush Limbaugh

  • @TonyWilliams27
    @TonyWilliams272 жыл бұрын

    Not a lot of people is watching Football games on Monday nights! Most people are way too busy get ready for work next day or probably taking care of families hobbies?

  • @SirKnight1096
    @SirKnight10962 жыл бұрын

    Not every idea is a good one.

  • @zoinksstealsoreos
    @zoinksstealsoreos Жыл бұрын

    This aged well

  • @jbj7599
    @jbj75992 жыл бұрын

    Yeah NFL vs the WWF/WCW wars, good luck

  • @notoriouseagle1074

    @notoriouseagle1074

    2 жыл бұрын

    Look at the UFC, they honor the first two weeks of the NFL Playoffs by not putting cards on that night.

  • @jbj7599

    @jbj7599

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@notoriouseagle1074 that's only cuz Dana doesn't want to miss a Patriots playoff game. If they sucked he wouldn't care

  • @diaz5292
    @diaz52922 жыл бұрын

    Do a vid about Paul Tagliabue's idea of making the players play random positions based on pulling cards out of a hat, matching their jersey numbers. Thankfully this was abandoned after only a month. Who can forget Kevin Gogan playing QB? Or Eddie Murray as middle linebacker? And Jerry Rice at Right Tackle? Good times...lol

  • @Davehhhh

    @Davehhhh

    2 жыл бұрын

    That sounds so bad, you got an article on this? I'd love to read about this

  • @diaz5292

    @diaz5292

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Davehhhh 😂🤣😅🤣😂😅 it's just a gag, lol. It never happened, lol 😀👍

  • @scotttaylor1051

    @scotttaylor1051

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@diaz5292 Hmmm... Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

  • @diaz5292

    @diaz5292

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@scotttaylor1051 stop stealing my jokes, Benji...lol

  • @RalphReagan

    @RalphReagan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@diaz5292 thank God!

  • @thomasn3882
    @thomasn38822 жыл бұрын

    I think that Sunday night football was ruined by NBC when they marched in, dictating their own terms in 2005 or 2006. I don't remember which year it was. But I do remember that NBC was allowed to dictate to ESPN that they could not air NFL Primetime anymore; at least not in it's existing format. Primetime was a fantastic wrap-up show for the day which showed highlights of every game from the day. NBC, or specifically Dick Ebersol, was allowed to storm in like an elephant and tell ESPN that they couldn't air that show any more. Then NBC was allowed to introduce "flex" scheduling; which allowed them to grab whatever game they wanted away from Fox and CBS to move to prime time on Sunday night. This was outrageously unfair to the other networks, and a nuisance to ticket holders to games. How many friggin Dallas Cowboys games does NBC want to flex onto Sunday nights? And I suspect that NBC was behind the rule which made the final week of the regular season be exclusively divisional match-ups so that NBC could grab the best one of the bunch for their Sunday night game. That is ridiculous over-kill. I liked it when the Giants would play an AFC team, or an out of division team, on the final weekend of the season. Before NBC came along, the Sunday night game on TNT or ESPN was a calmer, more niche game to watch to end the day. NBC wanted the Sunday night game to be the Super Bowl every single week. Well, it doesn't work that way. Throwing that much hype into every single weekend just creates burnout - which is what I felt towards the Sunday night game eventually. I can't get hyped for a circus every single week.

  • @lindahenry6168
    @lindahenry61682 жыл бұрын

    Pretty soon there will be no more free over the air football at all.

  • @marioaustin9312
    @marioaustin93122 жыл бұрын

    Funny now ABC would kill for mnf ratings. Bad teams and all

  • @lionhearted7450
    @lionhearted74502 жыл бұрын

    I’m gonna say something very obvious to other subscribers who would back me up on, I honestly think you need to put your resume into getting a job with anything related to history of pro football. Doesn’t matter the era, it seems video after video there is nothing but incredible facts, videos(s), clips, historical data, comparing teams from decades ago to teams now. I mean I can go on. Please, as a die hard fan of your knowledge of the game apply for a job in the NFL’s history department.

  • @WaltGekko
    @WaltGekko2 жыл бұрын

    I see why Tagliabue wanted to have two Monday Night Games. I would have at that time looked to have two Monday Night games as well EXCEPT make it a split ESPN/ABC doubleheader, with Game 1 at 8:00 PM in the east on ABC/5:00 PM in the west on ESPN and Game 2 at 8:00 PM in the west on ABC and 11:00 PM in the east on ESPN. That would have eliminated the problem with the west coast ABC always had back then (today, it's not the problem it was back then as the NFL is the 800-pound gorilla of sports and crushes everything). The other thing I would have done in 2003 is NOT have brought in John Madden as I felt his $8 Million a year salary was not worth it. I would have kept Dan Fouts and replaced Dennis Miller with Angie Harmon (who had two years earlier ended a run on the original "Law & Order") and actually has as I understood it an extensive knowledge of football (she was married to Jason Sehorn at the time) as I felt Ms. Harmon would bring more female viewers to MNF seeing a woman in the booth on what was then the NFL's biggest showcase who actually knew football. The combined salaries of Fouts and Harmon would likely have been about a quarter of what ABC paid Madden and I think would have produced the same results or close to that.

  • @wcvalentine5996
    @wcvalentine59962 жыл бұрын

    The dumbest idea was moving mnf from abc to espn

  • @madmanszalinski
    @madmanszalinski2 жыл бұрын

    JG9 straight up cut a promo on Paul Tagliabue

  • @markgraham2312
    @markgraham2312 Жыл бұрын

    Interesting article. But I disagree that what Tagliabue did and what you consider good. I consider them bad. He had nothing to do with there not being a strike. Tagliabue was a woman trapped inside a body of a man.

  • @stevekerp1
    @stevekerp12 жыл бұрын

    I suppose this has been discussed and I'd like to know what the reasoning is. Any team that has a Thursday night game has just three days off if they played the previous Sunday. This is simply brutal. Why do they not schedule Thursday night games only for teams coming off a bye week?

  • @russs7574

    @russs7574

    2 жыл бұрын

    That makes a lot of sense. The only problem is that you're limiting the Thursday games to the middle portion of the season, because for the first few and last few weeks of the season, there are no bye weeks. Unfortunately, Thursday night games are here to stay. I think they suck.

  • @mrtnt3462

    @mrtnt3462

    Жыл бұрын

    @@russs7574 THURSDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL IS AWESOME!!

  • @derekjtaylor
    @derekjtaylor2 жыл бұрын

    Who else saw the title of this video and thought this was about Dennis Miller?

  • @matthewdaley746

    @matthewdaley746

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not me, considering he was censored, the show apparently did just great.

  • @blacksheep25251

    @blacksheep25251

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also thought about Rush Limbaugh

  • @matthewdaley746

    @matthewdaley746

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@blacksheep25251 I thought that was ESPN Sunday NFL Countdown, but, maybe, I'm, somehow, misremembering facts, it's possible.

  • @ac9559
    @ac95592 жыл бұрын

    The qb rating for that idea was 29.2 which is worse than if you spiked the idea on every play.

  • @theecharmingbilly
    @theecharmingbilly2 жыл бұрын

    Is Booger still on MNF?

  • @michaellee4276
    @michaellee42762 жыл бұрын

    They seemed determined to make Monday Night Football less special around this time. Eventually they decided the best way to kill MNF was to move it to Cable. That one was more on Disney than on the NFL, but the NFL let them do it without any push back. Sunday Night Football just isn't the same prestige as having your Marquee game 20 hours after the other games are all over. Having Prime time Thursday night football 3 days later makes it seem less significant too. But Having a Monday night game on Cable sure ain't the same.

  • @dc1397
    @dc13972 жыл бұрын

    Most people don't realize the song "Another One Bites the Dust" preformed Detroit Lions named their group The Bue Fighters that day.

  • @kevinramsey417
    @kevinramsey4172 жыл бұрын

    How about covering The Dumbest Hiring in ESPN History: Rush Limbaugh?

  • @KevinT7274

    @KevinT7274

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ratings were good and probably would have went through the roof if Rush didn't walk away and ESPN didn't subsequently let him go.

  • @russs7574

    @russs7574

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KevinT7274 No, Rush didn't walk away. He was escorted out after making some derogatory comments about black quarterbacks. Your piece of revisionist history marks you as a Dittohead...and I'll bet I can guess whose bumper sticker is on your testosterone-sized pickup with the gun rack mounted on the rear window.

  • @KevinT7274

    @KevinT7274

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@russs7574 Don't go by what the media tells you, watch it again, read the transcript then see if you have a different opinion after that. And no I don't have a pickup either, used to. Why would I put bumper stickers on a nice pickup anyway?

  • @mgb4692

    @mgb4692

    5 ай бұрын

    Of course everyone who's hired and rehired Keith "Countdown to no ratings" Olbermann (NBC, ESPN that's you) has that beat in spades

  • @calicojack3628
    @calicojack36283 ай бұрын

    How is the idea of flex scheduling the dumbest idea in monday night football history when it is the norm today? It just shows Tagliabue was ahead of the times and was a great visionary for the game. This has to be the dumbest video on the history of Monday Night Football ever made.

  • @MalEvansUSA
    @MalEvansUSA2 жыл бұрын

    This kid is a genius. Case closed. I love this channel.

  • @KittyPurrfect100
    @KittyPurrfect1007 ай бұрын

    Antonio Freeman catch the night before 2000 election was the lasting memory from back then. Thursday night football outside of Thanksgiving sucks. Thursday night football depletes good games for Sunday and Monday. ABC needs to bring Monday night football on a regular basis and have a Dandy Don, Frank, and Howard in the booth. I like a doubleheader with a 7:00 pm and 10:30 pm game on a Monday after working 2nd shift. From SC. Panthers 2023😫

  • @crittoneida958
    @crittoneida9582 жыл бұрын

    I cant lie.....I didnt think it was that bad an idea. Couldnt think of a bad reason why at all. Then he kicked it in......and now I feel so stupid. Of course this was a very bad idea

  • @msarzo
    @msarzo2 жыл бұрын

    On an unrelated note, I have a difficult time deciding if I like Dumb Decisions or In Defense Of better. I love hearing JG9 get heated with some of the dumb decisions he reports on, especially when it seems plainly obvious even from the couch or the bar that the damn coach done lost his mind. But that said, I also love the critical thinking and the reporting behind In Defense Of. Rocket Screen will always stand out to me because of how compelling JG9's arguments in defense of Joe Gibbs making that decision in Super Bowl XVIII were. Regardless of series, or even if it's a seemingly random video about football, I thoroughly enjoy JG9's exhaustive reporting and his obvious love of the history of the game. It makes this channel a must-watch!

  • @andrewhernandez2188
    @andrewhernandez2188 Жыл бұрын

    Dennis Miller being an announcer almost killed MNF

  • @DolFan316
    @DolFan3162 жыл бұрын

    SO...the NFL finally decided to put Tags in the HOF last year after refusing to do it for nearly a decade and a half despite him CLEARLY being better than Goodell and arguably even better than Rozelle. all because there just wasn't enough "drama" in the league when he was in charge? At least that's *one* thing that went right in 2020.

  • @matthewdaley746

    @matthewdaley746

    2 жыл бұрын

    Calling it now, Roger Goodell will get inducted because some law requires Commisioners to get in, don't laugh, Bud Selig, eventually, got enshrined, too.

  • @DolFan316

    @DolFan316

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@matthewdaley746 Yeah, some "law" that gets made up on the spot after never existing before. Kinda like what governments worldwide are doing every week.

  • @Venom3254

    @Venom3254

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tags deserves it for not letting EA hog the NFL license & allowing the NFL BLITZ series to thrive with late hits (the rebooted one was decent, but felt bland)

  • @matthewdaley746

    @matthewdaley746

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DolFan316 The very same definition.

  • @matthewdaley746

    @matthewdaley746

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Venom3254 That appears shamefully notorious.

  • @robertwesley4416
    @robertwesley44162 жыл бұрын

    What football?. No hitting, no blocking, no good RBs, qbs who never get hit. Crap receivers who run around like squirrels never getting chucked or hit either. Yeah sure Brady could play until he's 60 just like Montana. Shoot he stands back there like a poster. Some football? More hitting in lingerie football. Terrible announcers to boot.

  • @russs7574

    @russs7574

    2 жыл бұрын

    And yet you watch.

  • @danielsemmens6640
    @danielsemmens66402 жыл бұрын

    Dumbest idea was to make it a paid event lost a lot of people

  • @marknan5352
    @marknan53522 жыл бұрын

    They fired hank jr...... Dumbest idea in the history of dumb ideas .

  • @higgy04
    @higgy042 жыл бұрын

    Which MNF game did Chris Berman say in a b-roll clip that he had to take some 'deux-deux-deux's' (also known one time as Canadian aspirin)? He said the matchup was awful and that was the reason he took some medicine from north of the border.

  • @markmoses7300
    @markmoses73002 жыл бұрын

    So they put it on pay channel n over half the country don't see it no more I think that was pretty dumb if u ask me

  • @markmenning1804
    @markmenning18042 жыл бұрын

    So would one of the 2 games not be aired

  • @danevertt3210
    @danevertt32102 жыл бұрын

    12:13 QB got destroyed

  • @tonysteel9502
    @tonysteel95022 жыл бұрын

    Do a Bachelor, Dancing with the Stars and American Idol hybrid, if a receiver wants to go in motion he has to dance, when the referee announces anything he has to sing and during official reviews have a rose ceremony with the cheerleaders.

  • @diaz5292
    @diaz52922 жыл бұрын

    Another cost: a high powered fan to air our the broadcasters' booth after Madden begins digesting his XL meatball and parm sub sandwich...lol

  • @axer3515
    @axer35152 жыл бұрын

    You left the most important thing out. People had told ABC for years that the 9 pm start time was too late to start the game for the east coast. Most east coast people watched till halftime for the week review and went to bed. Many games seemed to be over at the half and people had to work in the morning.

  • @timelymirror7826

    @timelymirror7826

    2 жыл бұрын

    why not a 3pm game

  • @bayou432

    @bayou432

    11 ай бұрын

    The NFL and ABC agreed in 1998 to a kick-off time of 8 PM ET because of these complaints. However, it returned in 1999 to the longtime 9 PM ET start.

  • @75aces97
    @75aces972 жыл бұрын

    MNF ratings went down for that period because the games started progressively later. Nominally the game started at 9 PM eastern, which is too late anyway, but kickoffs kept creeping to later and later. American sporting events in general kept taking longer and longer, so the games never ended before midnight. Some people have jobs to get up for. Plus, 1994 was the salary cap. After that and a few expansions, good teams deteriorated faster. It's nice to have a league where a team can go worst to first in a few years, but the flip side is that a match-up an go from attractive to unwatchable between the day yiu schedule it and game day.

  • @TMC1982Part2

    @TMC1982Part2

    6 ай бұрын

    I never understood why MNF started on 9 PM on the East Coast, when it was on ABC. A prime time NFL game in my opinion, shouldn't start at any later than 8:15. I mean, it would become practice for the game to end well past midnight (especially if you accumulate halftime, any likely overtimes, timeouts do to player injuries, etc.) that way.

  • @stevep8445
    @stevep84452 жыл бұрын

    The NFL schedule is created at least a year plus before the season and released in April/May. All they can do is put games in prime time that they THINK will be the best. They have no way of knowing what teams may or may not actually be as good as they initially thought. A game that back in May looks like a marquee matchup could wind up being a stinker by the time november rolls around, especially if you add injuries to the mix. It is not like they are scheduling the games a month before they are played.

  • @pronkb000

    @pronkb000

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the rise of free agency had anything to do with the MNF ratings decline. Is it possible that free agency made team quality harder to predict? Probably not as big of a factor as Sunday Ticket and the rise of satellites in general, but I wonder if that had something to do with it. Were games generally better in the '70s and '80s at least in terms of their records going in? I haven't studied and I don't know anyone who has.

  • @americangiant1003

    @americangiant1003

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pronkb000 Your theory on why MNF tv ratings in the last 5-10 years of ABC’s first run as the exclusive channel ie 2000-2005 is a good possible one. What is surprising to me which is not talked about more on the huge tv ratings slide at that point in league history is is this reason. At the turn of the 21st Century the NFL was going through a huge transition period as legendary players from the 80s and early 90s ie Montana, Marino, Elway, Rice, Lawrence Taylor, Aikman, Emmitt, etc had all or was just ending their immortal careers as well.

  • @russs7574

    @russs7574

    2 жыл бұрын

    No it's not, Steve. Next year's NFL schedule can't be set until the end of this year's regular season. They have a formula. You play each team in your division twice. If you're the Steelers, that means a home-and-away with the Browns, Bengals and Ravens. That's six games. Four games against another division in your conference. So if you're the Raiders, you might be playing the AFC East, so you'd have games against the Patriots, Jets, Bills and Dolphins....2 at home, 2 on the road. This rotates every year, so you see the same division every three years. Now you're at 10 games. Four games against a division in the other conference, 2 at home, 2 on the road. If you're the Packers, you might be playing the AFC West...Broncos, Raiders, Chargers and Chiefs. That's 14 games. Two games against the other divisions in your conference. Go back to #2. For the Raiders, that would mean a game against the AFC North, and AFC South. Each team in the division plays the teams from the other division that finished in the same spot in the standings. That is, the division winners play each other, as do the last place teams, etc. That's 16 games, and that's where the schedule used to end. Finally, starting this year, the NFL is playing 17 games. It will be similar to the games in the example above, except it would be against a team in the other conference. Thus, if we go back to the Packers, they would play the team from either the AFC North, East, or South that finished in the same standings position as the Packers. So far from setting the schedule "A year plus in advance," the 2022 NFL schedule will not be finalized for over another month. And that's only taking who plays who into account. It will take longer than that to figure out where and when, due to the fact that pro football venues often book other events. (For example, Heinz Field here in Pittsburgh, is also the home of the Pitt Panthers, and also hosts 6 Western Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic League football championship games over a weekend either Thanksgiving week, or the week after.)

  • @dannyandino6002
    @dannyandino6002 Жыл бұрын

    The NFL needs to put MNF on ABC and have only the best teams or Division rivals play on it and have the games be played at 7 PM not 8:15 that is way too late 7:00 is a perfect time for kickoff on MNF I don’t think anyone wants to sit down and watch a 2 hour pregame show waiting for kickoff that’s kinda unbearable IMO

  • @jamesedgar3442

    @jamesedgar3442

    10 ай бұрын

    That will never happen because they'll be scared that no one in the Pacific time zone will watch a game that starts at 4 PM. Of course, almost everyone has a DVR these days and can watch whenever they want, but TV execs still think everyone has rabbit-ear TVs and rotary phones. So they'll never start a national broadcast before 5 PM Pacific.

  • @fortynights1513

    @fortynights1513

    9 ай бұрын

    ⁠@@jamesedgar3442Not to mention most local stations have syndicated programming in the 7:00 PM hour (a legacy of the 1971 Prime Time Access Rule), so that would be inconvenient for some stations.

  • @xZOOMORPHICx
    @xZOOMORPHICx2 жыл бұрын

    haven't watched yet....is it Monday Night Football on Tuesday? Because that'd be pretty dumb.

  • @AD-vf3ek
    @AD-vf3ek2 жыл бұрын

    3:22 Brady’s 2nd rushing touchdown and it was the longest of his career

  • @joeboo8626
    @joeboo86262 жыл бұрын

    The idea: Have two games on Monday night.

  • @msarzo
    @msarzo2 жыл бұрын

    Tagliabue's idea was worse than if you did nothing but spike the ball into the ground on every single play.

  • @L_Train
    @L_Train2 жыл бұрын

    Where on earth do you get the information and ideas for your videos?

  • @jamiewiesner135
    @jamiewiesner1352 жыл бұрын

    My question is why would the NFL have two games compete for ratings against each other? It makes no sense.

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