Did a little digging about the Dauntless that was shot down, according to Naval History and Heritage command website the crew were rescued by a destroyer.

@RyTrapp0

2 жыл бұрын

That's pretty amazing honestly, REALLY not hard to get lost floating in the middle of the ocean!

@VloggingThroughHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks...that's what I expected would have happened (assuming they survived the crash)

@Kristian-ql8zw

2 жыл бұрын

@@VloggingThroughHistory Hey, could you react to Micheal Knowles' President Tier List?

@christopherkraemer4023

2 жыл бұрын

@@RyTrapp0 in the video it says the plane went down nearby the nashville. I assume the nashville saw it go down and helped the the crew. Probably werent just floating at sea with nobody around

@TheSuperdanz

7 ай бұрын

An action report for the USS Enterprise reports a plane that had to make a forced landing in the water, likely from anti-aircraft machine gun fire. It then carrys on to say Nashville rescued personnel, uninjured.

Crazy fact, just last year, around September 2021, the last of the Doolittle Raiders, LTC Richard “Dick” Cole passed away at the age of 103. He was posthumously promoted to full Colonel.

@VloggingThroughHistory

2 жыл бұрын

He passed away in April 2019 but yes, he was the last one.

I remember an interview of a Chinese vet who helped the crews escape. As far as he was concerned, everyone in the unit knew helping the aircrews escape would lead to brutal reprisals, but they accepted it for a chance to strike back at the Japanese mainland.

For the 80th anniversary of the Battle of Midway you should do Montemayor's Midway series. It's well researched and avoids many common misconceptions about the battle. It also gives a great point of view from the Japanese and greatly helps to understand many of the decisions made that day.

@MrPhilsterable

2 жыл бұрын

His videos on Coral Sea and Savo Island are really good too. I especially like the second (almost as good as his Midway one in my eyes).

@paoloadam

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! It's a great series, and I loved how Montemayor confronts us with Nagumo's Dilemma. Chris may be a bit reluctant to do this, perhaps, on account of maybe not being able to add very much to such an already very detailed account, but I think his worries in that regard are excessive as I greatly enjoyed his insights even in instances where he couldn't necessarily tell us that much, such as in the case of Extra Credit's Admiral Yi series which tackled a subject many of us had never even heard before, so in anything WW2/US related he'll always have more than enough to add to make a reaction video very much worthwhile.

@14Rocket

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, but the way Montemayor wrote them I would start with Pearl and move onto Coral Sea. The way he wrote them leads into the next battle in the Pacific theater. They are fantastic videos and I can't wait for his Guadalcanal and Marshall Islands videos

@paoloadam

2 жыл бұрын

@@14Rocket Pearl is the only Montemayor video that was already coverred by VTH kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYB3xK2Td6ytmNI.html I'd love to get Coral/Savo too and in that case your order would be correct, but I don't know if there's enough space in Chris' schedule to fit in 3-5 extra full lenght videos, which based on the popularity of the subject matter (not the highest by both KZread stats and Patreon polls), the most realistic path to get it all covered might be lobbying for Montemayor's best work so far (Midaway), and hope it will be popular enough to then also justify the rest.

@codyschwarz5155

2 жыл бұрын

I was literally thinking this while watching it

Good timing, considering there was that Ukrainian strike on a fuel depot in Russia yesterday or the day before. Honestly, reminds me a lot of the Doolittle Raid. There's very few things more psychologically damaging to an enemy than a war outside your borders coming onto the homefront.

@VloggingThroughHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Excellent point.

@CM-1723

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it was Russia who did it to rally support among their own public against Ukraine 🤔 ,

@HistoryNerd808

2 жыл бұрын

@@CM-1723 I'm not a military man but if it was a false flag, I doubt that it would've been against a legitimate military target like a fuel depot. I think it would've been against something like an apartment complex(which he has done before) or a school or something like that.

@CM-1723

2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryNerd808 maybe was just an initial thought . But why would Ukraine deny it? They are being invaded so what's to deny if they strike back 🤷

@delfinenteddyson9865

2 жыл бұрын

@@CM-1723 did they deny or did they just not confirm it?

So one thing that was inaccurate about this was that the bombers didn’t wait for the entirety of their squadron to get airborne. They each made one pass over the Hornet after takeoff to dial in their wind correction and course, then dropped down to about 50 feet and proceeded west immediately. They didn’t have enough fuel to loiter over the Hornet and form up. Some bombers did catch up to the ones in front of them, but for the most part they were spread out in a nearly 100 mile conga line. It was also a happy accident that they attacked Tokyo from multiple directions. Most of the pilots hit the coast at different points and they flew in different directions looking for landmarks to guide them to the target.

Great video, another one you may like is called "Midway from the Japanese perspective" it comes in three parts and the third part recounts everything but from the U.S. perspective of what the Japanese were doing

My great pop pop was a part of that fleet!, holy crap I just realized it! USS Cimmaron, the tanker! He survived the war and is still alive, 94 years old, Harold L. Bates

Wow they nailed the casting in the 2019 Midway movie with Aaron Eckhart as Doolittle. He looks so much like him. I can honestly say I've never seen video of Doolittle before, that was cool. Great job, really enjoying your channel this week.

From the USS Nashville War Diary, Satruday, April 18, 1942: "1500 Picked up last survivor (of the Japanese ship) and began maneuvering to rescue pilot and passenger of ENTERPRISE plane which crashed in water astern of ship. 1517 Rescued two fliers." No more info but seems to be a happy ending.

the montemayor series on midway is hands down the best one out there

I was lucky enough to attend the final Doolittle reunion (around 2013) and the final goblet turn ceremony (last month). It saddens me that these guys are now all gone. True hero's. Surprised there was no mention of the training that went on a Eglin Field for this mission. Big fan of the channel.

Jimmy Doolittle's autobiography, "I Could Never Be So Lucky Again," is a great read.

the aircraft carrier that was damaged was the Light carrier Ryujo which was unfinished and in dry dock. the Raid delayed her launch by 6 months

I feel an opportunity was missed to call Doolittle the Bold Eagle.

The Doolittle Raid is an absolutely amazing feat.... I'm a pilot and I can't even imagine flying my little single engine planes off a carrier, let alone a B25.........

I actually had the privilege of meeting some of the surviving members of the Doolittle Raiders 20 years ago when they were all gathering on the anniversary of the raid. It was very cool to shake their hands.

It’s funny your talking about the Doolittle raid because people are referencing two days ago the two Ukrainian helicopters that sneaked into Russia and blew up a oil depot and came back to ukraine undamaged. it destroyed the myth of Russia can’t be attacked. People are saying this is ukraines Doolittle raid

@HistoryNerd808

2 жыл бұрын

We're on the same wavelength lol. Just saw a tweet thread by Mark Hertling(retired 3 star general) who was talking about how this is a classic example of what the military call a "deep strike" and why it's important from a psychological perspective.

@PowderedToastMan3

2 жыл бұрын

I just pray it doesn't come with anywhere near the same kind of reprisals.

@user-oh6eg4ny3h

2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryNerd808 yes ironic both the Doolittle raid and ukraine attack on Russia did a minor attack however the impact was a big psychological and morale blow to Russia who tells people in Russia that Russia is safe from the war. Just like Japan. Now that the attacks happened it motivated the US and ukraine that they can win. Similar to the quote from duke from Rocky “You cut him. You see, He’s a man he’s not a machine!!”

@user-oh6eg4ny3h

2 жыл бұрын

@@PowderedToastMan3 well ukraine is being bombed all day long so they can’t threaten ukraine anymore then what there doing. If they chemical attack ukraine. That’s just gonna cause nato to give ukraine even more deadly weapons. If they nuke ukraine then there gonna face a nuclear strike by nato. So Russia has limits. If they escalate, then nato escalates. Russia has seen bombings aren’t working. They know if they become more deadly then ukraine will be more deadly as well. So they want to be more carful. Also it’s not a politcal good look if there chemical attacking there fellow Slav. Also if they get more threating finland and Sweden will join nato

Operations Room is an amazing channel. Glad you covered them and help that channel grow.

@Flowerz__

2 жыл бұрын

They have like 3 times as many subs as he does? You’re acting like it’s some little channel just getting started lol

@jonathanryan9946

2 жыл бұрын

@@Flowerz__ reaction channels rarely ever get as close to as big as the core channels producing videos people want to watch reactions of. I never said it was a small channel, that said Operations Room is barely 2 years old of a channel and it's no where near as old or as big as many other videos he's reacted to... which in many cases have millions of followers.

@Flowerz__

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanryan9946 fair enough. It’s just difficult to say he’s helping the channel grow when they have 3 times as many subs. I understand what you are saying though. I mean if anything we could say VTH is using bigger channels to help himself grow tho. Not hating js.

Just came across your channel. Bloody brilliant! Love it.

Hey Chris, in a couple of weeks (April 25th) us Australians and Kiwis will be commemorating ANZAC day, the anniversary of the beginning of the Gallipoli campaign in the First World War. Kings and Generals have a video about it and it might be a good idea to react to it for ANZAC day. I know your Australian and New Zealand viewers will appreciate the recognition!

@LtGhost-tb3kq

2 жыл бұрын

I certainly will lmao

@Spartan265

2 жыл бұрын

It's now the 25th. Funny side note but today is also my birthday! Though I was born in 1993.

Chris please can you do " Jeremy Clarkson the greatest raid of all time " such a good documentary ..

@catherinewilkins2760

2 жыл бұрын

Second that 👌

@CM-1723

2 жыл бұрын

@@catherinewilkins2760 triple that lol

The Soviets were not always so accommodating. In 1945 a B-29 had mechanical problems after a bombing run over Japan and landed in Vladivostok. The Soviets arrested the crew and confiscated the plane. They then took the B-29 apart and used it to design their own bomber. Of course, in doing so they figured out the design flaw that had plagued the American bomber and caused the mechanical problem. Eventually the crew was returned.

The Doolittle Raid didn't use the B-29, but the Soviets captured a few during the war when American crews had to make emergency landings. They reverse engineered the aircraft and flew it in the early cold war as the Tupolev Tu-4. There's an old saying that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, Germany would have been a lot more difficult to defeat without the massive efforts of the Soviet Union, but even while on the side of the Allies...they were not exactly our friends. Of course we did a lot of shady things as well.

As Chris says Japan attacks on multiple fronts, simultaneous operations against European and US colonies in South East Asia .... Invasions of Hong Kong, Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand and they bomb Singapore on the 8th December 1941....all this is within hours of the attack on Pearl Harbour, but over the international date line. Within two days (10th December) the RN loses its two capital ships (HMS Prince of Wales and HMS Repulse) in the region, and the Commonwealth and UK forces are forced to retreat west to India and South to Australia.

Another fact about Doolittle that doesn't get enough attention/praise is the strategic shift that occurred with regard to U.S. fighter aircraft once he arrived in Europe. When he took command of the 8th Army Air Force he saw a sign at fighter command headquarters that read: “The first duty of Eighth Air Force fighters is to bring the bombers back alive.” Doolittle told the general in charge to take it down and replace it with one that read: "The first duty of Eighth Air Force fighters is to destroy German fighters.” Fighter pilots started to fly out in front of the bomber formations instead of staying with them in order to find Luftwaffe aircraft and shoot them down before they got a crack at the bombers. The bomber pilots weren't wild about the new aggressive tactics at first but before long the Allies achieved air superiority and German fighters became far less of a problem. Doolittle called it the most consequential decision he made during the War. Ike was so impressed by Doolittle that later, when he was president, he tapped Doolittle to head up a commission to review how the intel community did business because he wanted to head off a congressional investigation after the coups in Guatemala and Iran. He knew Doolittle was a man everyone could trust to tell is like it is, including Ike. Doolittle is one of those figures who often gets overlooked but he was there with his hands in it during the formative years of the Air Force. A man with a unique blend of character and balls. A mans man to be sure, one of the great pioneers of airpower.

It's really cool to see your channel grow in what seems like a (at least for me) a very short period of time. I subscribed to you not too long ago (about a month ago) and I receive every notification. From the time I subscribed to you until now, your channel has grown so much! Which is awesome because I think you're a really cool guy who knows his stuff.

6:56 LTC Doolittle wasn't the only pilot lobbying the importance of airpower in the next war and future warfare. BG Mitchell was a vocal advocate for airpower ultimately to the detrimental of his own career. He spoke out against the horrid condition of Army Air Service planes as several accidents ended with pilots dying and the reluctance of the Army to invest in Air Power as well as the separation of the Air Service from the Army. Ironically his predictions were labeled ludicrous, inciting war with the neutral Empire of Japan, and a publicity stunt to garner favor with Washington politicians. Later on his predictions became true vindicating him a few years after his death.

Midway is one of my all time favorite movies about any historic event. It's pretty accurate but it's just flat out Americana and entertaining. Does a great job of portraying the dire nature of the immediate impact of Pearl Harbor.

@TheArrowedKnee

8 ай бұрын

The consequences of Midway were pretty crazy too. Of course, the US would most likely have won anyway, but if the Kido Butai weren't decimated, the pacific war might've taken years longer before it was over

Later on, Doolittle was transferred to Europe, he was privy to the Enigma secret. His superiors ordered him to fly no more missions over the German lines; the concern was that if captured, Doolittle might have revealed Enigma under torture. He disobeyed these orders, had the Germans learned of Enigma, many historians believe, that tens of thousands of allied troops would likely have been KIAd. Was Doolittle irresponsible? I tend to think so.

Love the operation room, hopefully you react the more of his videos. They are definitely worth watching.

There is a small town just outside Rolla, here in my home state of Missouri, that actually renamed itself "Doolittle" in it's official incorporation in 1944. In 1946, the then Lt. General Doolittle spoke at the dedication ceremony. TY for the awesome content as always!!

Innovation and Guts, for sure. But luck plays a major role too.

If You do the video on Midway from Japanese perspective, I'll probably pee my pants... I've seen it like a bambillion times and it's still one of the top videos analyzing a battle I've ever seen. With Your commentary and hindsight it will be truly amazing. Also hope you visit Austerlitz one day so I can meet and greet you :-D

I found out recently that one of my grandfather's friends participated in the Doolittle raid. Edit: I have a copy of an email with his story (Lt. McElroy, pilot of plane #13) that he sent my grandfather before he died, and my grandfather forwarded it to my dad in 2009, and last month my dad was cleaning out his spam folder and found it and forwarded it to me. His plane was also the one that hit the aircraft carrier at Yokosuka.

Love these reaction videos!

Just watched the movie 'Midway' which portrays the doolittle raid briefly and gives a little in sight of what the mission was like

I have a CO Worker, whose wife is one of Doolittles great Grandchildren.

@VloggingThroughHistory

2 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome

@willie0376

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's actually through them I first learned about Doolittle, I'm thinking about showing them your video and seeing what they make of your take on his raid. I know I enjoyed it.

My FAVORITE docu video of all time is Montemayor's Midway documentary here on KZread. It is reeeaaally well presented, hope you cover it soon!! Big suggestion! Love your reaction videos, hope that you can cover this one!

Yes!! I've been waiting for you to speak on this amazing American feat. Thank you!

YES! Another video!

Sweet! My half sister is related to Jimmy. I believe he was a great granduncle.

I love the Doolittle raid, it's very minor in terms of strategic value but hugely symbolic. It really is the best response we could have had for Tokyo so quickly after Pearl Harbor. And since they had to go so early many of the pilots probably thought/knew it would be a suicide mission which gives even more respect.

@Rocketsong

Жыл бұрын

It actually had an unintended (and major) Strategic Impact. I always thought it was a mistake, because having Enterprise at Coral Sea likely would have meant a major US victory, and probably saved Lexington. However Jon Parshal has noted that the Doolittle Raid was actually instrumental in cracking the Japanese Naval code, since radio intercepts increased by a factor of 10 from the Japanese trying to track down the carrier fleet. Everyone knows about cracking the code, but apparently all those extra radio intercepts were a big part of doing so.

I actually find it interesting how so many people can judge the decision to drop the atomic bombs over Japan as they do today. As horrible and tragic as it was to drop the bombs the amount of cruelty the Japanese Military used against Chinese, Korean, POWs, and other ethnicities is comparable to the Nazis. The historical revisionism in Japan and some in the west is a huge insult to the Millions of innocent civilians killed. Not saying the bombings weren’t tragic or horrible, however, they are absolutely justified.

@dbach1025

2 жыл бұрын

Truth

@ConkerVonZap

2 жыл бұрын

Stop defending war crime it's cringe. The US literally targeted civilians wirh the bombs, Japan in 1945 had almost no manpower. Japan at that point only had old people, children and women who never committed any war crimes against Chineses, Koreans and etc.

@nocx4592

2 жыл бұрын

For some reason many people can't seem to simultaneously understand the cruelity of Japan during WWII and the innocence of modern Japanese people.

@coxmosia1

2 жыл бұрын

Given the utter brutality of savagery the Japanese inflicted on the Chinese during WW2 that a Nazi official called home to complain...yeah, those bombs were needed.

@historyking9984

2 жыл бұрын

I mean the option was don’t drop them and invasion by Americans and the Soviets. An invasion by the Soviets would’ve been far more devistating and against the Americans the war would’ve lasted longer. Yes some say there’s the idea that they might’ve gotten one without using the bombs or changing the surrender idea due to the Soviet attacks but the Kyujo incident goes against that. There was an attempted coup against the peace deal even after the atomic bombs were dropped so it’s clear . And it was done by the Staff Office of the Ministry of War of Japan and many from the Imperial Guard. Without the bombs dropped who knows they might’ve had the support to keep fighting or the time would’ve increased and the Soviets would’ve invaded Japan meaning there would’ve needed to be two peace’s and Japan likely would’ve continued to fight due to the Soviets likely not letting them keep their emperor.

Wasn't claimed in this video, but I've read elsewhere sometimes that the Doolittle Raid instigated the Midway operation as a Japanese response. Not entirely untrue, but that plan was already largely complete, and Yamamoto was pushing to execute, beforehand. What I think the raid DID do was take the wind out of the sails of those in the government, the army, and the naval high command (yes, even Yamamoto had a boss, lol) who hadn't yet bought into that operation. My perception is that Doolittle didn't necessarily prompt MIdway...but helped get it "greenlighted".

@robertdendooven7258

2 жыл бұрын

According to Parshall and Tully's book, Shattered Sword, the Midway attack was already approved BEFORE the raid. It did remove some of the Army's objection the operation though.

Disagree with one "fact", I've checked another source, the 16 bombers didn't circle the carriers to make a formation, they took off and went at various speeds towards Japan and it was the difference in speed that helped them get into formation

@dec5829

2 жыл бұрын

...Hornet did have a history of deferred departures so it's an excusable oversight?

This is totally random, but I think you affected my video recommendations the other day. I hadn't thought about the focus group you talked about being a part of since the live stream, but it actually showed up in my suggestions tonight. Of course, I had to watch it after that. Lol

They sailed from San Francisco instead of Hawaii for a couple of reasons. The first was that the raiders were selected from a bomber group based in the continental United States, so all the training and preparation for the mission from the Army Air Forces side was being done at home. The second was that the Hornet was a brand new aircraft carrier. It had only been commissioned into the fleet in October of 1941 and was still based in Norfolk, VA. It just made more sense to have the Hornet transit the Panama Canal than to pull any of the carriers already deployed in the Pacific back to San Francisco.

its April. Please cover the Fall of the Philippines, Bataan, Corregidor and the Bataan Death March

@coxmosia1

2 жыл бұрын

The Bataan death march especially....

"Thirty Seconds over Tokyo" is a book and film, with the book written by one of the pilots. The 1944 film was able to use actual footage taken during the raid.

@jamesearly8518

2 жыл бұрын

@Jack Messick, I love that movie. The next episode of my podcast will be an extended discussion of it. The podcast is called "Key Battles of American History."

Great video

It was in the suggested at the end of his video you just watched. You should react to his video on the USS Laffey. It's an incredible story of resilience against dozens of kamikaze attacks and you can actually visit her today in South Carolina.

Big fan of the channel, and I think this is the first time commenting? I found your comment about the atomic bombing of Japan to be interesting because I myself agreed with it until I saw an interesting YT video that went hard into analysis of all the major players, the timeline, the reasonings before it happened and decades later relating to if the bombings were really necessary and if they had the impact history talks them up as having now. I wish I could remember all the reasons but at the end of the video (thing is like 2 hours long) I came away not thinking it was definitely something that was unnecessary, but I was much less supportive (geez is that the way I have to phrase this that I'm supportive on dropping nukes on cities) than before I watched. It was an interesting video if I recall it was by a person named Shaun.

They would all meet after the war. They would drink out of sterling cups, when someone passed away, their cup would be turned over. I believe 2015 was the last meeting and the last raider passed away in 2019

The Chinese people suffered greatly under the Japanese. Japan's brutality isn't talked about enough. "The Infamous Unit 731" is a great read on experiments the Japanese were doing on the Chinese.

Did you mean montemayor's midway series? 25:25

@VloggingThroughHistory

2 жыл бұрын

YES! that.

@jimig.688

2 жыл бұрын

@@VloggingThroughHistory I'm looking forward to that

Anzac Day is coming up. It would be awesome if you reacted to a video about the anzacs at galipoli

This is a great video, i would love it if you could react to one of Jeremy Clarkson’s war documentaries, either “the greatest raid of all” which is about the raid on st Nazaire or “the Victoria cross: for valour which covers both the history of the BC and the parachute raids at Arnhem (a bridge too far) they are long so would be multiple parts but are some of the best documentaries I’ve seen on youtube

The Doolittle Raid truly was inconcievable at that point of the war. In fact, Admiral Nimitz viewed it as poorly-conceived political ploy to raise morale at home. It could have gone horribly wrong. In essence, it may have accelerated the war as the raid sharply shifted the Japanese priority toward destroying American carriers. That said, had one of the bombs landed about 10-20 yards closer to the Imperial Palace, it would have ended the war.

Interesting video

You should check out the video from Blue Jay: The Dumbest Russian Voyage Nobody Talks About. He does pretty good stuff

Even though it didn't cause much physical damage, Dolittle's Raid forced Japan to recall a fleet from the Indian Ocean to protect the mainland, opening the shipping lanes to Australia.

The Japanese only have two fleet carriers, in production after Midway, the Taiho, and the Shinano. The Taiho was sunk, on the way to attack American forces invading the Philippines. She was sunk by a single torpedo, fired from a submarine. The Shinano was supposed to be the third Yamato class battleship, but was converted to a Carrier. She was unfinished, when she was sunk by an American submarine, while she was being moved to another shipyard.

Like your videos so much but have you did the battle of coral sea

"Surprise is a tactical and strategic advantage that takes place in the mind of the enemy."

you could make a reaction to the video of extra history about genghis khan or anything about the mongol empire ,I think you had never talked about the mongol empire .Will be great!Also a tier list about best generals/militar leaders of all the time.

I’d love to see your reaction to History Buff’s review of “Midway”. It’s such a good movie and is one of the few remakes that surpasses the original in my opinion.

Should do a video on the USS salt lake city. It's got a crazy story

Hello, I know you get lots of recommendations and comments but I really recommend you to watch the new series Historia Civilis has put in (Congress of Vienna Pt 1 & 2). Otherwise keep making content you love!

I think it's important to note why the Soviet entrance into the Pacific Campaign helped lead to Japanese surrender - the largest cause for Japan's decision in terms of the USSR was that they had now officially left the negotiating table. Japan had been asking the USSR to open up negotiations for a favorable surrender. The Soviets had been placating them, telling them that they would talk to the Americans, which of course they never did. After Japan's last hope for an arbitrator was gone, they had no choice but unconditional surrender. Even if the USSR had no military, Japan would have been forced to into the same decision. I think this distinction is important to make because people use it to discount the impact of the nuclear bombings and the American military success in the Pacific. Japan didn't surrender after the Soviet declaration because they feared the Soviet military more than the American, they surrendered after the declaration because that now meant they had no neutral third party to help negotiate.

Yeah across the International Date Line on December 8th the Japanese also took British territory in Malaya and also the Dutch East Indies

Please do a video on the uss liberty, just listened to the new jocko podcast and he had 3 or 4 survivors on it , crazy I never even knew about it

Hey pal love your Channel can you do a reaction video on Jeremy Clarkson Victoria Cross 🇬🇧

I had to draw up a vague plan for an operation to replace the Doolittle Raid for my historical warfare class. I think it would have been possible to to turn some bombers into sea planes, drop them in the Pacific, complete said raid, refuel and re-arm by submarine in the pacific for multiple bombing runs over key points on the Japanese mainland, refuel one last time by submarine, and fly back to Hawaii or get scooped out of the pacific by a carrier with a crane.

I'm sure this will be another amazing video. Also Chris, I wanted to ask if you were planning on doing anything for the anniversary of the peninsula campaign. I know how the American Civil War is your specialty.

They did not fly together it was a waste of fuel. Remember, they were taking off early. Also each bomber had its own target. Every book written about this says that

Nice

It Erie how similar a position we find ourselves in today...but when the war finally does break loose, we will be in an even greater disadvantage. I just pray we have the strength as a nation to rise to the occasion.

Jimmy Doolittle won the Schneider Cup of 1925, held in Chesapeake Bay, after American Dave Rittenhouse won at Cowes, UK in 1923. After losing to a renewed Italian effort in 1926 at Hampton Roads, the US withdrew from further racing in the Schneider Trophy. There are two things I want to say with this. 1. Jimmy Doolittle was a great flyer. 2. Americans quickly lose the will to play, when they don't win anymore.

That is Barry Goldwater with Jimmy Doolittle and President Reagan, yes!

An interesting sideshow, but, I can't help but think that having the 2 carriers at the Coral Sea,(contemporary with the raid) would have worked out better. Taking Shokaku and Zuikaku off the board would also have been good for US morale and materially affected the Japanese ability to make war.

@robertdendooven7258

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with your opinion except for one thing. The Hornet would have still been training until late April 1942 and would not been available at the Battle of the Coral Sea in my opinion based on information I have read.

@mako88sb

Жыл бұрын

@@robertdendooven7258 Without the Doolittle Raid, would the Japanese gone ahead with their plans for Midway? Maybe later on? Of course it’s also possible that with the Enterprise at Coral Sea and a more successful result because of that, maybe the Japanese would still decide to invade Midway.

@FarikoUnited1

10 ай бұрын

I think that also would remove the impact of civilian morale on both sides had they just assisted with coral sea. I dont think knocking out a carrier would have had the same impacts to the homefront as stating you had bombed Tokyo which would have boosted US morale and concerned Japan to show they could still attack Tokyo even with the lose of the pacific islands to Japanese soldiers.

No one ever talks about the cost of the operation.

You always forget the invasion of Dutch Harbor. Doolittle raid is before Coral Sea and Midway... The situation was dire then. This was for a moral boost. Thus Drop the Bucket raid was for the moral of the people. They hit us, we had to show that we could hit back.

@johnnamorton6744

2 жыл бұрын

Something else to mention here ... At this moment Japanese had more carriers than the USA. I think the USA had five and Japan had fifteen. In the coming months Japan would lose two the USA would lose one and see one severaly hurt. So this was risky AF. On June 5 1942 two Japanese carriers attacked Alaska and four attack Midway on June 6 1942. It's the sinking of the four carriers that forces the two off Alaska to come protect the fleet.

I don't believe that the bombers circled and grouped aftertake-off. No fuel for that

The Operations Room did an epic April Fool's video yesterday. If you haven't seen it, it's well worth the watch.

oil was king then and king now and will continue to be for many years

why didn't they Lauch from the Aleutian islands? wouldnt it make more sense to launch from land in your own territory that is closer? or am i just dumb

@robertdendooven7258

2 жыл бұрын

No suitable airfields and too far for any of the bombers available in 1942.

Please do a reaction to the last 2 or 3 Videos of Historis Civilis, theyre about the end of the napoeonic wars and the congress of vienna, i bet that would be a lot of fun but of cause also very long

Please react to Montemayor's Coral Sea video before you start on his Midway series.

Unrelated to the video but have you watch Gallipoli the mini series, it’s on KZread and it’s a good show that makes you feel like your there

the diary of an American missionary in China who helped the doolittle raiders and witnessed the brutality of the Japanese response was recently discovered in the DePaul university archives, father Wendelin Dunker

Interesting ‘what if…’ question. Would modern military lawyers allow a modern Air Force to carry out a similar mission today. Today, every operation carried out by strategic level headquarters has a section of lawyers run a fine-tooth comb over the plan for approval prior to implementation. No-one wants to end up facing a court afterwards for crimes against humanity. If modern military lawyers understood the adversaries response, in this case the Japanese response towards the Chinese, would they give this mission the green light? I’ve been told a number of times another mission, the RAF’s Dam Buster mission could never be carried out in todays environment because of the civilian casualties. Please understand, I am not disparaging the brave courage of the individuals who carried out these amazing missions. I simply wonder if these missions would have been allowed in the first place under modern conditions.

I can't find any reason to suggest the decision to drop the atomic bombs was wrong. I find it hard to imagine the number of deaths had the war lasted another 18 months as allied forces fought their way through Japan. It would have been worse than the bomb.

@michaelyarnell1559

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. An invasion of Japan would have been far more deadly. Conservative estimates at the time were one million allied casualties and two million Japanese casualties. Others thought the numbers would be at least double that for both sides. Dropping the Atomic bombs were a necessary evil to bring the war to a faster and less deadly end.

@ac1455

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelyarnell1559 not to mention by the time downfall would’ve even started, hundreds of thousands would’ve died anyways in the meantime.

What I find interesting is in the video with Paton and Doolittle, the Narrator is clearly Ronald Reagan.

@VloggingThroughHistory

Жыл бұрын

Yep. He was in the army film department during the war. Narrates a lot of those.

Can we talk about my Wolverines beating your Buckeyes this past year? We Michigan alum need to live in the past.

@VloggingThroughHistory

2 жыл бұрын

Well they win about one every ten years. They were due. :)

THere are some excellent videos of the salvage of Pearl Harbor. The channel is called Drachinifel. There are 2 (or 3) parts. HIGHLY recommend watching them if anyone is interested.

The best movie on the Doolittle Raid is Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo.

the USS Nashville putting in work tho 😳

It's not Lefttenant it's Leutenent Colonel

Very interesting. The Japanese reprisals can't have been unexpected, I wonder if in a similar situation German reprisals would have been less.

@michaelyarnell1559

2 жыл бұрын

Probably not. After the "Great Escape" Germans killed 50 of those who were recaptured. And after Reinhard Heydrich was assassinated the villages of the villages of Lidice and Ležáky were razed. All men and boys age 14 and older were shot. The villages had nothing to do with the assassination.