The Division 2 Community Is Not Happy With Seasons 2.0, And They Are Right

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One of the most controversial parts of the Division 2's Year 6 Reveal was the new seasonal content. In this video I am going to explore why the community is upset, and why they might be right.
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  • @Wilimac1
    @Wilimac1Ай бұрын

    Seasonal characters are, I believe, to make it new players equal to veterans. Basically, they are saying all the players who helped this game grow do not matter. They want the new players. Second, the devs are notorious for making you grind for everything and do it their way, not the players' intuitive thinking.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I would agree with you, particularly with your first point. The drive for new players is on. Got to hit those revenue metrics.

  • @offdablock6194

    @offdablock6194

    Ай бұрын

    I still don’t understand how seasonal characters work yesterday I tried to make a new character and tried to level up in ny but it stood in Washington and took forever to level up just one level I so confused

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    You have jumped the gun a little here. The seasonal characters don’t go live until Season 2 which will kick off in about 4 months. When it does I expect that it will be clearer that you have created a seasonal character. Hope that helps.

  • @100StepProgram

    @100StepProgram

    Ай бұрын

    As a new player I think seasonal characters are stupid, it’s a spit in the face for everyone

  • @st81982001

    @st81982001

    Ай бұрын

    Greedy company, where is the old Ubi we used to know.

  • @pauliusvasiliauskas5678
    @pauliusvasiliauskas5678Ай бұрын

    It's all about making it easy for new players so they can try and sell more shit. Palle's whole job is to create skins to sell.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    He is going to be busy then! 🤣

  • @jontaviousfield4523

    @jontaviousfield4523

    Ай бұрын

    let hope it not like cod add nicki minji. ._. i want like refer or easter eggs skin.

  • @PatrickF.Fitzsimmons

    @PatrickF.Fitzsimmons

    Ай бұрын

    what else do you expect them to do.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@PatrickF.Fitzsimmons In Div 1 we had a $20 seasons pass with which they developed Survival, Underground, Last Stand, and Resistance. That is what we would like them to do rather than selling skins.

  • @giguyjoe
    @giguyjoeАй бұрын

    Honestly the seasonal character thing speaks to one of Ubisoft's biggest flaws going back to the days of Assassin's Creed II. They try to appeal to everyone to the point of pleasing no one. They don't understand the initial draw of their franchises.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    True albeit I think that this is more about driving income from the game through new players.

  • @Shademastermcc

    @Shademastermcc

    Ай бұрын

    The cornification of shooters is definitely a problem and it seems to have spread to the division. Remember the atmosphere and grit of the first game? Sure it wasn't everyone's cup of tea but it made the game unique. I always felt like I was in a struggle for my life in the first game. This game feels more like fortnite with realistic building models stretched over it. Ubisoft thinks goofy looking weapon skins and light up mask and bright pink raincoats are something that anyone would wear (and not be dead day 1) during a catastrophe. This isn't the purge, it's supposed to be taking itself seriously according to the plot, but it isn't and this weird mashup of fortnite antics and realistic backdrops clashes horribly.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Fair point.

  • @stephenphillips7699

    @stephenphillips7699

    Ай бұрын

    I remember back in 2016/17 division 1 players got a questionnaire about what we liked and disliked about games and one question was, how intressted are you in cosmetics?

  • @hefeydd_
    @hefeydd_Ай бұрын

    As a veteran Division player myself, I agree with what you are saying here and this is why there was no SOG and they just slotted a trailer into Ubisoft forward. Veteran players won't benefit from Seasonal Characters but new players and those who haven't got WONY will be able to progress without the expansion I think that is to get more players onto the platform but there is a problem with this Ubisoft doesn't give a rats arse about the players they just care about the statistics. What has happened lately is I've noticed an influx of teenagers playing this game, especially in Countdown players are being booted from groups for being too veteran and I joined a player who was level 20 and had all the Directives on and was playing on Heroic and I noticed all the players left including myself and he sent me a message asking why I left and I said you're playing level 20 all directives on and on Heroic we will be constantly reviving you. And your gear and weapons are like a peashooter and paper armour.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Blizzard perfected the art of a rolling more casual player base that generates a lot of money for them. Time for Ubisoft to leverage this! 🤣 The number of striker drones in Countdown does seem to be increasing.

  • @illusealrr1006
    @illusealrr1006Ай бұрын

    They ask us to play additional 10 hours for a 1-40, with maybe 10 minutes of added story, and think we will have fun doing it.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    No, we will pay them to think we will have fun doing it.

  • @n67tn

    @n67tn

    Ай бұрын

    they dont think we enjoy it. they just dont care, its more hours in front of the screen to report to the shareholders that is all its about any more.

  • @n67tn
    @n67tnАй бұрын

    right now it looks like they are just trying to trade all the old players for new players that will look good for the share holders. but give it 6 months and the numbers are going to be abysmal. this sure sounds to me like a game trying to kill itself.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Ah, but new players will buy more skins so will they care. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I suspect that there is a level of inertia with long term players that will mean they stay despite the changes.

  • @99bimmer

    @99bimmer

    Ай бұрын

    I believe that's exactly what they're trying to do. I think the dev team is sick of working on this game, so they come up with a terrible idea, sell it to the bosses as a fresh new idea for the game, and then use it to tank player numbers. The bosses see it, cancel all future development of the game, and the devs get to move on to other projects

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@99bimmer 🤣 I think the moving onto new projects is known as getting fired.

  • @99bimmer

    @99bimmer

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming Well, maybe not. If Massive/ Ubi decide to cease further development, then they can just move them to other projects. Certainly the higher level execs will get shitcanned for coming up with a shitty idea, though

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@99bimmer I don’t think coming up with bad ideas is a way to get a move to a project you do want to work on. No manager in their right mind is going to reward that. As someone who ran teams of 200 people, you don’t move a poor performing team to your prize project. You address their performance.

  • @samreay7257
    @samreay7257Ай бұрын

    Somebody put me onto your channel on Reddit and I'm impressed and subbed. Thank you for the honesty about the state of the franchise. I've been a huge fan of this franchise exclusively for years, with all the merch and been tuned on for every update. It breaks my heart to walk away several days ago and give up on the progress of the game altogether. The story has become so narrow and insular, and the lack of new gameplay or activities has ruined my enthusiasm. I'm not being sucked in to seasons that you rightly identified are the same activities over and over, I have far more self respect than that. I would pay for new activities, not new skins and dyes

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Great to have you on board. It is such a shame. I think it is definitely time to take a break until the Brooklyn DLC and then see where the world is then. Thankfully, there are lots of good games coming out soon. I will also be going back to the Division 1 which is still the best version of the game.

  • @lucassilverblade913
    @lucassilverblade913Ай бұрын

    Spot on Agent. If I'm forced to play a new character that starts at level 1, it's back to D1 for me

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Still the best Division game. Not even close.

  • @DavisCrimsonGaming

    @DavisCrimsonGaming

    Ай бұрын

    If me..better wait TD3~...play other games while waiting.. This current season TD2 now will be my last to play and enjoy..then gonna retired and wait TD3.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe come back for the Brooklyn DLC

  • @stephenphillips7699
    @stephenphillips7699Ай бұрын

    I went back to Division 1 a few days ago to start a new character and there are brand new players in that game and you can tell they are brand, brand new by their achievement level, I'm 2500ish and these players are under 100, so the Division 1 is still attracting new players still after 8 years.

  • @caliginousmoira8565

    @caliginousmoira8565

    Ай бұрын

    it is really special and i'm going to be sad when they take it away from me like the crew. i'm not buying anymore ubisoft games.

  • @angrymanny4810
    @angrymanny4810Ай бұрын

    There is a new bug. All the control points are resetting when you login the game again. 😅😅😅

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    That is hilarious. 🤣

  • @angrymanny4810

    @angrymanny4810

    Ай бұрын

    Do you have a twitter? I will send it to you the video. 😅

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@angrymanny4810 Sure. @CasualNYL

  • @MAXERNEST

    @MAXERNEST

    Ай бұрын

    Yes that`s right i did The Vault and Eclipse fuel depot ,just logged in and they have gone back to the enemy factions :{ before the allied NPCs held them for months ,they got attacked but not taken over , so i assume its bustish then :}

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Possibly all of the npcs are now new seasonal characters and don’t have the firepower to hold down the cps!

  • @floridaprepper751
    @floridaprepper751Ай бұрын

    I would gladly pay $ 5.00 a month to have new missions made.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I remember back in the day you had to pay for the season to get Survival, Underground, Resistance, and Last Stand. Think it was $20. Absolute bargain and I would happily pay it again to get them back.

  • @bazza426

    @bazza426

    Ай бұрын

    I would pay 10 pound a month for new stuff most people would i think.

  • @R0GU3ST4TU5
    @R0GU3ST4TU5Ай бұрын

    Ripping my hair out because i want to play but i don't want to keep making new characters.. i've already trauma bonded with my current agents i don't want to HAVE TO MAKE NEW agents. Why can't we just get paid DLC where we go to entirely new places like a DLC focused on something going on in Saint louis MO.. we gotta go do something important over there or something..

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Trauma bonded! 🤣 Awesome. Brooklyn DLC is coming in 2025. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

  • @caliginousmoira8565

    @caliginousmoira8565

    Ай бұрын

    i will gladly pay for more locations in dlc.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@caliginousmoira8565 You will have your wish soon in the Brooklyn DLC!

  • @AstraKitsune

    @AstraKitsune

    Ай бұрын

    Didn't like Saint Louis had a dirty bomb incident? Oh wait it's just rumors...

  • @dw4897
    @dw4897Ай бұрын

    All the people that have Max expertise on on six pieces of build, almost worthless now, glad i did not do that.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I’m hopeful that the Brooklyn DLC will be more aimed at existing players. We will see though.

  • @ThisOLmaan

    @ThisOLmaan

    Ай бұрын

    I was World Tier 4 bout to complete Last Tier, had very Decent Armmor After that Broken Maintenance! feels i was Regressed Back to a very Low level, Took quite a lot to put my Charater down, and now takes only a few shots and he's down. Not doing it again No Way, don't think I'll be opening any Ubisucks game, they been Breaking Game After Game.

  • @stephenphillips7699
    @stephenphillips7699Ай бұрын

    Basically I'll start a new character just for the story but just like these manhunts and season track to level 100, once it's done within 1 week, I'll probably be playing something else until the next part of the story starts. I've done the first part of the Keener manhunt and I'm level 25 on the track, so once I'm done with the track, there's not much left to do that I've already done before.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Pretty much what everyone does. Seasons are not what the community wants. New replayable content is.

  • @singersunite9785
    @singersunite9785Ай бұрын

    I’m a brand new player, I’ve been playing for the past couple of days, does this mean I will have to have a seasonal charecter too? Sorry if this question is dumb

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Very sensible question. The seasonal characters are coming with Season 2 which starts in roughly four months. If you want to participate in the story for that season, or the seasonal content, then yes, you will need to create a new level 1 seasonal character. If you don’t, then you can continue to play you the character you have just started. Enjoy the game!

  • @rickyjanzen6684

    @rickyjanzen6684

    Ай бұрын

    Lucky for you, everything right now is new. Depending on your free time, you may have done everything in 4 months. At that point, if you want to play new content (however that is presented), you will need to do it with a fresh, "seasonal" character.

  • @ryanhawryliw2962
    @ryanhawryliw2962Ай бұрын

    What I would like to know is will we be able use our main characters for the manhunt 2.0?

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    No. Only seasonal characters. The one exception is the 'climax event' which mains will be able to play on Master difficulty. Possibly after you have beaten it once on any level on your seasonal character. All other seasonal content, story, weekly scouts they confirmed was for seasonal characters only.

  • @ryanhawryliw2962

    @ryanhawryliw2962

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming So then what's the point of even having your main characters then if you can't use them for the manhunts and only use them for the climax? This is complete stupidity on Ubisoft's side and complete bullshit...I think I'm done with the Division 2 Unless they fix this where we can use our characters for all of it!!

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@ryanhawryliw2962 We may be getting more content for our mains with the Brooklyn DLC. I hope so anyway.

  • @AstraKitsune

    @AstraKitsune

    Ай бұрын

    Seems like new agents are just Cannon fodders to our cause.

  • @stephenphillips7699
    @stephenphillips7699Ай бұрын

    Level 30 and 40 each have a crafting table, if you donate stuff through the libaray from level 1 to 30 and then restart a character that level 30 crafting table is still there. My level 15 player that should have 6000 armour but has nearly 30k, my best weapons that you find has 3.5% weapon damage but because of the level 30 table I can transfer the max 9.9% to the weapon, if you had a max roll to add to the libaray. So when the table gets unlocked by getting the woman from the settlement to join the Whitehouse I wonder if that table still works for season 2.0?

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Good question. We will see. But irrespective of that, you may not be able to hold a character at lvl 30 as they will now continue to level up to 40 in DC. So the crafting table is somewhat useless.

  • @cannedsoup83
    @cannedsoup83Ай бұрын

    your saying how i feel about the new changes ....just raise the lvl. cap & raise the gear score at dlc

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I think if the game was more like WoW I would be in favor of that - unique gear at each level cap making the grind for gear fun and interesting. But that isn’t how gear is structured so there would need to be some sort of way to raise the level on gear up to the new max level or the same issues we have with the new seasonal content arises. Destiny does that so it is absolutely possible. My preference though is for new replayable content rather than a level cap gain. Give us game modes that are fun to play again and again. Sadly Massive have missed on more than they have hit with this in Div 2.

  • @cannedsoup83

    @cannedsoup83

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming we've been wanting survival since day 1... why not make a DZ instance in NY.. certain part of the season ny goes into lock down and drop package & shit..or some shit, any thing other actual then SHIT ? lol

  • @hotfuzz4416
    @hotfuzz4416Ай бұрын

    I think the whole community is just overreaction and if you don't like this change, then don't play it. Its not a big deal. I'm excited to have something thats not just Season 1.0 after 5 years of do that xD.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    The story is tied to the content. If you actually want to follow the story, you don’t have a choice. So I’m sorry but that is a rather ridiculous thing to say. I’m glad you are excited to be running story missions, open world events, control points, and the bounties that will be in leveling process, even though those are exactly the same as what was in the previous Seasons. Personally, I would have liked to see Massive focusing on new replayable content rather than rehashing existing content. Each to his own though.

  • @hotfuzz4416

    @hotfuzz4416

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming I believe people set their expectations too high. Let alone its not even something like the next DLC. Plus will see if there are addition stuff compared to Season 1.0 and the Master difficulty. Maybe and hopefully the new replayable stuff will come in the DLC.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    An expectation that they will be able to continue to play the game they have been playing for 5 years and have invested in their main character to do so? An expectation that rather than putting resources into driving new players for higher revenue, Massive will focus their resources on developing content for the existing player base? An expectation that Massive will listen to what the player base that has supported the game for 5 years is actually asking for? You may be right, expectations are way too high.

  • @maurojpeg
    @maurojpegАй бұрын

    They really need to come out and talk about this ... Not only talk, but also show us how this going to work.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. It was very disappointing for the reveal to be stuffed into the last 4 minutes of the post show. They really should have anticipated that such a big change in direction would need further clarification. A cynical person might think that it was done this way because they knew that there would be significant backlash and so they made it more of a marketing presentation than a technical gameplay presentation.

  • @DeepFriedFeet1
    @DeepFriedFeet1Ай бұрын

    It's funny how with project resolve they made weekly and daily projects give enough xp for one level then return it to back to a quarter or a level. And the only project that does give one level is the premium season project you buy for 10 dollars. I wouldn't be surprised at some point with the seasonal character the seasonal rewards would be past season skins and outfits which I wouldn't mind too much since I quit the division for a decent amount of time but yk they gotta keep it "fresh"

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    It is clear they are looking to generate more income from the game and that is driving some poor decisions for us. 😔 definitely feels like a watershed moment for the game and the developers. One route leads to a monetized disaster and the other to the game we want. 🤞🏻

  • @keithjones7648
    @keithjones7648Ай бұрын

    The biggest issue is I have clan mates that have level 30 upper and low characters some have thousands of hours in these characters now they are forced to raise the characters

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    They should introduce a way to halt xp progression similar to Blizzard did in WoW for twinks.

  • @dajaunn8611
    @dajaunn8611Ай бұрын

    Woah woah for us guys that are still 1’000s and up are very happy keeners ideas are glorious. Plus new gear

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I don’t really understand the point you are trying to make here.

  • @rickyjanzen6684
    @rickyjanzen6684Ай бұрын

    I don't see how seasonal characters will aid player retention, new or old. I've always felt that style is made for turnover. New players can constantly join every new season, but how many will stick around long term when their characters constantly get reset? Sure, you get rewards to use on your "main", but if you always have to use a seasonal character for the new content, those rewards are little more than digital wall trophies you never get to really use.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    It’s more about creating a funnel through to the endgame which is what will then retain players. All of the focus over the last year has been on removing barriers for new players so they get to that end game as quickly as possible. With the Brooklyn DLC coming in 2025, the timing is perfect.

  • @Cashmerekat996
    @Cashmerekat996Ай бұрын

    As someone that's been wanting to get back into D2 this new seasonal 2.0 stuff has me hyped. I'm sad it didn't come with Y6S1 but I'm happy to wait, I just hope they don't scrap it and at least give it a try. Really looking forward to a new season and being on the same level as everyone else

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Fair enough. This and everything else that has been developed in the last year have been aimed at boosting new and returning players. This change eliminates the barriers between new and veteran players making it easier for new and returning players to get into the game. Because new players drive more revenue.

  • @ThesocialmuteHD
    @ThesocialmuteHDАй бұрын

    If the characters gain access to the equipment at the end of the season, what’s the point of new characters in the first place?

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    They are more accessible to new and casual players. They don’t feel left behind or intimidated by players who have thousands of hours in the game. They can drop in and out of the game and still feel relevant. They can buy skins. But the official Ubisoft story is that it allows them to curate a better experience for all players because all players are at the same point in the journey.

  • @simontaylor9362
    @simontaylor9362Ай бұрын

    Yep there was a leak on a new global event, could be the modifier. I just want a gear/talent buff and incursions tbh new stuff and old stuff feeling newer.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Do you remember where the leak was reported? Yes, rehashing old stuff again is not the way forward.

  • @simontaylor9362

    @simontaylor9362

    Ай бұрын

    On a live stream during ubiforward, think it was through the games coding after maintenance. Probably the guy that normally leaks stuff.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@simontaylor9362 thanks! I will try and find it.

  • @LoudAngryJerk
    @LoudAngryJerkАй бұрын

    the only actual improvement I definitively see is that we no longer have to play through the entire WONY story to get the watch. That by itself was obnoxious. That being said, everything else looks catered to new players who aren't likely to come this late in the game.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Well they have removed it because it was a barrier to entry for new players preventing them from buying the season pass and DLC. So not sure it is an improvement as such.

  • @dw4897
    @dw4897Ай бұрын

    So instead of use the gesr we already have max rolls on, we get to farm gear with horrible rolls again just to use for 40 level of a season. I do care about new characters, i do not want to regrind builds i have already maxed rolls. Edit: I do not care about new character. I run new characters, I do not boost them.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. I have no interest in that. Or the seasonal characters to be honest.

  • @dw4897

    @dw4897

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming seasonal would be great just if we did not have to regrind everything. They said joining a roster, so each session should be another character and that should be 150 inventory space? I want load out space tho.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Well we get 1 more character slot for the first seasonal character. Nothing has been said yet about whether we get more for the season after that. Worst case, we are going to have to delete a character each season to make room after the first.

  • @rickyjanzen6684

    @rickyjanzen6684

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@NYLCasualGamingI'm betting that 5th slot is a "seasonal character slot". It gets deleted and replaced at the start of each new season. Rewards you can keep that are in that character's inventory will go to your mailbox or stash.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    That makes a lot of sense. Now if only we had enough stash space to accept the new gear.

  • @mrhouse5133
    @mrhouse5133Ай бұрын

    Rightttt, thanks for the good breakdown! I am not the target audience for seasons 2.0, haven’t bothered to complete a season manhunt since general Anderson and Stovepipe lol Comes across as tedious. Whilst perhaps not TOO many people can relate, but Division 2 is giving me For Honor flashbacks, the dev team started catering to the lowest common denominator!

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    And the common denominator - Ubisoft. 🫨

  • @yeoldegaymer1906
    @yeoldegaymer1906Ай бұрын

    I haven't even bothered logging in for season 1, couldn't see the point since my main is being sidelined for some content in season 2.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Time to wait for the Brooklyn DLC. Elden Ring here we come!

  • @derychweber6134
    @derychweber6134Ай бұрын

    I did a control point this morning on challenging but it was only a level one control point wtf more bugs.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    CPs do seem to be f*cked right now.

  • @johnmaciver
    @johnmaciverАй бұрын

    I came back to the game after a few months break on Tuesday. My personal focus is going to be getting to season level 100 asap and only playing thereafter to rattle through the speed run leagues as and when they’re released. I not going to bother with the likes of Hollywood, Reanimated, Golden Bullet etc again when I’ve already got all the patches/backpack trophies.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I must admit I do the bare minimum on the global events. A modifier on the same old content doesn’t change it from being the same old content.

  • @marcus0johansson
    @marcus0johanssonАй бұрын

    I got 1100 on my watch and around 10-15 exp and have absolutly no reason to go back (and have not had for like 2 years) again farming any higher. A season "reset" or a fresh playthrough would be fun for a couple of seasons until Div 3 comes along. Anything new released as of now I can just blast past in a week (or a day as releases are staggered). My mains are so powerful it makes the game so boring i've just stopped.. Im looking forward to this, I miss the game.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Part of the reason we are all so powerful is that they buffed most weapons and brandsets with Project Resolve. Those buffs aren’t going anywhere. The level 1 to 40 wasn’t exactly hard before the buffs so I think it is a little optimistic to think this is suddenly going to be a challenge. And this isn’t a few play throughs. Div 3 is years away - 2 to 3 at least so probably 10+ reruns. But that isn’t really the issue here. The issue is why aren’t they focusing their resources on delivering new playable content. The answer of course is that they will generate more revenue by driving new player growth with rehashed old content. But look, glad you are looking forward to it. It is aimed at new players and returning players like you. Get you back into the game ready for the paid Brooklyn DLC. Get your wallet ready.

  • @Seany-boy
    @Seany-boyАй бұрын

    The fate of this game will depend on the PTS for the upcoming content. Simple as that.....we are going to get a PTS right ????? I kind of thought it would be reach level 40 , similar to reaching level 100 on the seasons reward track.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    That is a good question. It would certainly be normal to get one. I actually think that more and more is hanging on the Brooklyn DLC than on Seasons 2.0. I don’t see Seasons 2.0 adding much to the game beyond what we already had. It really isn’t for existing players. So the DLC needs to be the boost that keeps us coming back for another year.

  • @Seany-boy

    @Seany-boy

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGamingAgreed, spot on mate, keep that content coming !!!!

  • @Fackletard

    @Fackletard

    Ай бұрын

    Upcoming NEW content? You mean NPC rename in the same missions, etc.?

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    It is going to be interesting in Seasons 2.0 when a new character who has yet to kill Keener is involved in Keener’s story after he comes back from the dead. Pretty sure there are some plot holes there. 🤣

  • @hoshinoyu
    @hoshinoyuАй бұрын

    On the other hand, this will probably make people come back to Division 1, I saw so many agents in the tactical operation center while Division 2 maintenance got expanded, I'm always happy to see people returning to my favorite game, and that's the only good news to me with this season2.0 nonsense

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Still the best Division game. Interesting that they stopped updating the Global Events in it. I mean it would be cynical of me to suggest that they did this to encourage players to move to the Division 2.

  • @stephenphillips7699

    @stephenphillips7699

    Ай бұрын

    I went back to Division 1 this week for a new character build and those players that I saw are brand new players to the game. When you look at any player it'll always show their achievement level and the ones I saw are still under level 100. So even if you look at my level 19 character you can still tell that I'm an older player because regardless of in game rank my achievement level is 2500ish so it's good to see brand new players.

  • @silversotnik1088
    @silversotnik1088Ай бұрын

    That was the game I returned this year. it was needed for the games that use the same system, when u get tired of the ongoing season. And need a break from the game. I have a character that u call "main" and i have that char from day 1 from division 2. I don't have much playtime, since i've got to work and for some reason I had a bunch of kids also. But I think all this "barrier lifted for new players", is a big missunderstanding for the developers. I've attracted about 20-30 people to play the game with me or solo by giving them my advice. I believe that this kind of "improvement" will decrease the amount of players, that will really support the company. Simply by not having someone who helps them forward. I't is easy to get a character 0-40. But if u have as much playtime as me, then any advice from experienced players is much appreciated. So, long story short: I believe that making "main" chars useless, makes the veteran/experienced players to quit the game. Also i believe that the "barrier" thing is temporary, because they get tired of the game quickly and quit. But that is only my own "modest" opinion. If that happens, i definetly will not play the game again, unless this is reverted.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    You make some solid points. I don’t think vets will leave quite yet. they will be pissed but the promise of the Brooklyn DLC will keep them from quitting entirely. I also think that keeping players is not necessarily the plan. A churn of new players is better for revenue so having a continual turnover is fine.

  • @mikekuzi3766
    @mikekuzi3766Ай бұрын

    IMHO if they only changed one thing about the Division 2, I wish they would add a last man standing extraction pvp survival where a cloud of small pox was closing in and random loot boxes and crafting stations were around for the agent to loot and use to get to and call the extraction in. like survival but not using time or infection to push to the extract but the cloud, and if you get stuck in the cloud you get sick and can only get better if you find medicine, and are easier to pick off than others who never got caught in the cloud, but still have slim hope of survival. The longer you stay in the cloud the faster the infection worsens. No cold to deal with in this instance.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Sounds like a good idea. Also, a bit like Heartland.

  • @agentcoedie7079
    @agentcoedie7079Ай бұрын

    Compared to what we just got from destiny. I don't know if I will jump on div.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    It is a competitive race to the bottom! 🤣

  • @CHEF2077
    @CHEF2077Ай бұрын

    you named it: Resistance or Underground I'm a gigantic fan of Roguelikes and Roguelite but the entire resources spent on Descend were completely wasted. Had they instead built a game mode like Underground or Resistance with random generated rooms etc, that would've been an infite money pit for them. Give Black Tusk Flamethrower warhounds, have Rikers have artillery troopers, I dont know just be creative. To me it's a general concern that the mistakes here are so obvious to us, but Ubisoft and Massive fail to see this. I mean they actually claimed the new exotic Pistol is the most used pistol as of now, but they failed to understand that people were just using it in their loadout to passively level it.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I think there is a video needed on why Descent and Summit failed, but Survival, Underground and Resistance succeeded. In part atmosphere. In part the RNG is the wrong place. In part the lack of risk and reward in Summit. In part the open ended nature of them versus the mission based or target based of Underground and Survival. I’m sure there are other reasons. Massive should also have taken some queues from descent. Part of the reason people didn’t like it is because you can’t play your own character. Roll forward to the seasonal characters and is anyone surprised by the reaction? I agree that it seems obvious to us. But I also think it is obvious what they are doing. Descent was a great mode for new players without an endgame build. Everything about year 6 so far has been aimed at new players. And new players drive revenue.

  • @roydavies953
    @roydavies953Ай бұрын

    So long as 2.0 is solo player friendly.... I won`t be forced in to pvp.

  • @stephenphillips7699

    @stephenphillips7699

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks Roy, glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.

  • @AZ-dj1ni
    @AZ-dj1niАй бұрын

    Is it just me or do I feel like Bugisoft reduced the XP of the projects to get us to play the seasonal character?

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    It wouldn’t surprise me.

  • @thylordsatan666
    @thylordsatan666Ай бұрын

    I can see why they are doing this, We O.G. players dont buy anything anymore so we keep the engagement but we aren't spenders, so its kinda F us. They need new players to keep the lights on, they are on a skeleton Crew so its already looking bleek. I think this is the last straw for them if this doesn't pan out? Who knows?

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I think you are right that this could all be being driven by the need to increase revenue from the game. If so, I wish they would just be honest about it. And at the same time give us an option to pay for more content for veteran players. I remember you had to buy the season pass for $20 I think it was to get Survival, Underground, Last Stand, and Resistance in Div 1. If they told me I could do the same now, I would be reaching for my wallet.

  • @thylordsatan666

    @thylordsatan666

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming Yup im with you there. Id sprain a Wrist whipping out my wallet so fast. Keep the O.G.s happy cause we already love the game, we already play the hell out of it, you dont have to change anything cause we already love it. They need to understand that they have one of the most Loyal, Faithful Communities on there hands, and should Applaud us not kick us in the Nuts.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Very true

  • @coqzilla3811
    @coqzilla3811Ай бұрын

    There are only two words you need to describe their entire fancy jargon about Seasons 2.0 'Player Retention'

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    No, it is all about eliminating barriers to entry for new players. Worried about the gap between you and veteran players? Poof! It’s gone. Welcome back, and get your wallet ready. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @fountedakis
    @fountedakisАй бұрын

    If "the first descendant" doesn't fuck it up big time on release it's going to draw a lot of Div2 players and the game is going to die out

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I am very hesitant on First Descendent with its publishers reputation for extreme monetization. But willing to give it a go. I suspect that there is enough inertia with Div 2 players that most will just stick it out. When you have invested so much time it is hard to walk away.

  • @fountedakis

    @fountedakis

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming I'm not attached to the time invested, I'm invested because I love the gameplay but as soon as another game comes along with a better gameplay loop I'm gone... and actually I'm a Battlefield player who waits for a good battlefield game since 8 years

  • @barryg.5224
    @barryg.5224Ай бұрын

    FFS, how many games have gone down the tubes pandering to newer players while alienating vets? More than I can count. & in the end, trying to have both, you end up with neither.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, but it probably makes a lot of money while it does.

  • @graphosencrenoir4006
    @graphosencrenoir4006Ай бұрын

    you know what Sidorovich trader from Stalker will say about this Ubi stuff.... "BULLSHIT!"

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    🤣👍🏻

  • @99bimmer
    @99bimmerАй бұрын

    Heard xp got nerfed across a number of activities. How the fuck does that equal faster progression? Do you gain more xp of you're NOT level 40,and then it gets nerfed when you hit 40?

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I heard that too. Will need to look into it. Cynically it pushes you to play the seasonal content, and but the pass, for the double xp.

  • @99bimmer

    @99bimmer

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming Scumbags

  • @Koenshakuable
    @KoenshakuableАй бұрын

    Survival. That's the only thing I'd go back and play now. Everything else is a money sucking hassle.. It's probably why it never made it to the second game.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    You still can! D1 servers are still live.

  • @padredamasogaming751
    @padredamasogaming751Ай бұрын

    so they just made seasonal character with no reason to grind? no special seasonal rewards?

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    You will get access to new gear before it hits the general loot pool at the end of the season and some skins!!! We don't know to be fair but based on prior experience, no nothing worth grinding for.

  • @ikondrift
    @ikondriftАй бұрын

    Here's a wild idea. How about we actually find out what the seasonal characters are and how they play before we go "new = bad" and start demanding it be reverted back?

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Because the community doesn’t want to play a seasonal character. They want new replayable content they can play with the characters they have invested time in. The current manhunts are rubbish - the same old tired content with a voiceover - so no one is asking for it to be reverted back. They are asking for Massive to stop rehashing old content and forcing players to play it if they want to see the story unfold, and focus on new game modes, incursions, raids, pvp, etc. Is it unreasonable for the community to want what they have been asking for since launch?

  • @capt.america2737
    @capt.america2737Ай бұрын

    Massive Entertainment is a bid let down. How greedy can you be? I really like this game but they are running veteran players away. Not that I care that much about dedicated PVP players but they have big issues with these changes too. I really need to stop investing in live service games.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Yes but I think we are all looking for the game that we can play for more than just one play through, and that means live service. We are our own worst enemies!

  • @andrewbenstead7989
    @andrewbenstead7989Ай бұрын

    I understand they want new players and I'm ok with that but I think seasonal characters should have a full SHD watch at level 1000.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Why? The difference is pretty marginal.

  • @markreaper
    @markreaperАй бұрын

    Ill park my judgement and be willing to try this seasonal characters

  • @stephenphillips7699
    @stephenphillips7699Ай бұрын

    It sound to me that the game makers want us to start a new character for 3 months and then restart a new character every 3 months because the season mode is a 12 week thing. I like the first 30 levels but, and it's a big but, I don't find this games story mode interesting. Your first mission is to save Odessa daughter, is that my job? But we do it any ways to progress but after that, I'm not entirely sure what the story missions are about, we are just told to go here, go there and it just feels like I'm a dogs body working for people that aren't your boss and your just doing favors for random strangers. But going to WONY felt more of a storyline chasing the guy from the first game, the base game in the Division 2 didn't feel like a division game until WONY,

  • @bobbyb5454
    @bobbyb5454Ай бұрын

    Im fairly new to the game, been playing for a solid year.. I came from warframe where i had 1000s of hrs in and was at a legendary rank.. I uninstalled that game after all that time due to the direction they took and their desire to squeeze more money out of the players.. I have a solid yr in divsion 2, shd lvl 3350. Ive spent alot of time maxing my weaps and builds..i know there are alot of ppl who have been here from the beginning that have tons more.. If they do this in sept.. I WILL uninstall all my ubisoft games and they wont get another dime from me..

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    A very common sentiment and one I can relate to. I would say maybe wait for the uninstall to see what the Brooklyn DLC brings. But a good time to take a break and play some of the other great games coming out this Summer.

  • @zepher1502
    @zepher1502Ай бұрын

    This "new" season is just a middle finger to us from the devs. Every season, they at least somewhat redid the missions, but this season they copy pasted the exact same mission from the main story. DUA mission is exactly the same as it was in the main story, they didn't even change any dialogues from allies or enemies, even the bosses we killed in main story are alive again in this new seasonal story as if we never killed them or they are resurrected somehow. They keep milking this game and the player base that it's bleeding now, the "drip feed" method they use every season is another middle finger to us. For 6 months they only give us 1 exotic weapon, 1 exotic gear, 1 gear set, 1 brand set and remodeled weapons and no new content at all again and again, they haven't even introduced any new weapon other than exotics in the game since the DLC. Guns with new perks aren't new guns they are remodeled milked content. I am getting sick of this drip feed method. Look at how Destiny 2 and other live services handle their seasons, they introduce new content, new guns and new something, but what these devs do is keep feeding us the same old content over and over and whats even more stupid is that most player base doesn'd seem to notice and they appreciate them for this. People say "if your arent goint to appreciate what devs are doing, how are they going to give us new content". Look at where we are now, they have started copy pasting content as it is and call it "new". What people doesn't seem to notice is that they are exploiting this game and the player base but people are with their eyes closed taking all their BS unfiltered and praising them for this. Its been 2 seasons and there is not even a single new incursion is the the first one. What shows that devs dont care about this game is the map, the map UI looks like so childish with nothing organised and all the places and floating on circles all over the place, creating this clutter which looks even more hideous.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. The odd thing about the ‘let’s wait and see’ reaction to this reveal is that it just gives the devs a pass to keep doing the minimum that they have been doing for many years. I’ve heard many times with this ‘well they only have a small team on this, what do you expect?’. They are choosing to not resource the game to give its player base the content that they actually want, and we should give them a pass for doing this? It is such a weird relationship and acceptance of mediocrity. A bit like Stockholm syndrome where we love the developers who are holding us captive.

  • @jeffcook1054
    @jeffcook1054Ай бұрын

    Now we see why Heartland was canceled. Veteran players would of moved their to get their fix.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    That is an interesting thought. Also layer in that recurring global events in Division 1 stopped last year and there does seem to be a pattern.

  • @ianmcdonald3053
    @ianmcdonald3053Ай бұрын

    This is all about division 3 not. Division 2 and the model they want to proceed with, this is without doubt is going to change how division has been played and it will evolve into this nonsense.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    If it is successful in driving new players and casual players who drop in and out of the game, and this drives revenue, you may well be right.

  • @Sarge9591
    @Sarge9591Ай бұрын

    Check this out Division 2 year 6 is all about $$$. Deleting world tiers and an entire gear platform (gear score 100-500) cuts maintenance, server space, and even number of "fixes" required when there is a problem. New manhunts equal significant increase in players which equals server space. Seasonal characters with no stash or backpack will prevent the need for this server space when more players log in. Div 2 is going into auto pilot and they are cutting back on resources not changing the game for player enjoyment. Last manhunt did not

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I’m working on a video now that might be called ‘where did it all go wrong’ or ‘the rise of Ubisoft, and the fall of the Division 2’. I’m with you on this one.

  • @Sarge9591

    @Sarge9591

    Ай бұрын

    The rest of comment was the last manhunt did not even have a custom mission as all others. It was the standard DUA mission. It's also amazing to me that everybody loves the original content yet the devs can't seem to make more of it. They make all these add-ons that no one plays

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@Sarge9591 yes, it was all very disappointing. A complete rehash of old content with very little effort.

  • @Delalendre
    @DelalendreАй бұрын

    I would like to know those who don't want to try what do you want? our characters are already powerful so powerful that even legendary is shit so you want ubisoft to increase the life of enemies? we must think

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Actual new content rather than the same rehash of old content with a voice over that we have had since WONY. Replayable content. Not an hour of running control points, old missions, and bounties. Survival. Underground. Resistance. New incursions. The same thing the player base has been asking for since launch.

  • @shadysaad1989
    @shadysaad1989Ай бұрын

    This Unisoft forward helped me decide to start focusing on other games. Yannick made a planned teaser few months ago hyping the community and he barely talked on the show. After all the wait an update of repayable content but diablo styles and changing the name of the new season from manhunt to Intel. Lame.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    It was odd that he was hardly involved. It was clear they cut him out of bits - when I was editing I found single frames they had left in where it starts to jump to him then flipped to something else.

  • @silvadic2207
    @silvadic2207Ай бұрын

    I’ve only put roughly 300 hours in, but I’ve had an enjoyable time and build. Played Division 1, enjoyed 2, but now I can’t play my main agent. No new content, a camouflaged redo of the missions, still having to wait 12 weeks for a manhunt to be fully available… this isn’t a good system. Be seeing everyone back in New York if you’ve got Division 1, because 2 is on fire and dying fast.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Well you can play your main for this season but I can relate to your sentiments. Div 1 is still the better game by far. I hope to see you in NY.

  • @toqkeus1311
    @toqkeus1311Ай бұрын

    Am no way veteran, played both D1 and D2, enjoying both very much coop-ing with my wife but in no means a grinder or a minmax-er or whatnot. We just enjoyed the game with what we have actually, so basically a real casual. I dont really get the fuss, veterans have been doing watch mule rinse and repeat for thousands of cycles anyway. If my understanding is correct, seasonal will just be that, isn't it? But instead of the same brainless cycle all the time, there will be seasonal content now, so people can enjoy the experience as well and re-experience the variety the Dev has in store. Maybe yes, there will be no 'new content' for end game, but it is 'end game' for a reason. And if my understanding is correct, and after season reset, all the exp gained during the season will still go into the main char exp, which is basically just a more fun watch mule run is it? Once vets are done with the season content, they can continue to do whatever they usually do with the main char. Should be a win-win as there will be more new player base which will just bring more people to shoot in pvp, more content to create, and i dont think new players will be able to 'catch up' to where the vets are in term of main char due to all the time invested in the watch and all the upgrades etc if that is the concern. I think should be a good outcome for all, and probably this thinking is the reason why there are dividing opinion, is it? I am just a fan sharing my own thoughts that is not influenced by any other facts/opinion, and just seeing what in front of me now.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Players have invested a lot of time and effort into their main characters to play the way they want to play. They don’t want to just throw that away to experience the only regular source of new content they get. The whole thing is incredibly immersion breaking. A new character is going to interact with Keener who has come back from the dead, before they have killed him in the leveling process. Time to introduce time travel into the game. The cycle is just as brainless. Leveling 1-40 in the same open world activities, same missions, same game modes that have been done to death. Seasons 2.0 was sold to players as one of the key ways to improve player enjoyment. It is the same stuff everyone is doing now. We have seasonal content already - global events, leagues, apparel events. All they are doing is taking those and putting them into a 1-40 leveling process. This is a rehash of the same old content. This is not delivering on the promises they made. Veteran players don’t need xp or to farm for gear they have already got. So the seasonal character is not going to add anything of use over than maybe for the stash space. Except it’s not permanent stash space because the 5th slot is always seasonal and reset. Mule runs are done for a specific purpose, resources not experience. They are a means to an end, not a fun activity. The xp you get for leveling is a fraction of the xp you can get in an hour of playing at max level. At least it was until they just secretly nerfed it in order to make the seasonal characters more attractive. Not getting any new content from this is an issue because it has tied up resources that could have been focused on developing the type of content veteran players actually want to play. I don’t even understand what you mean by ‘it is end game for a reason’. The content at max level is what everyone at max level plays. It is the only content they want to play. So no new content is a problem. And saying ‘veteran players can go back to what they actually want to be playing after they have ground through 10 hours of pointless tedium’ is not a great sell. There is no win win here really. Veteran players are not getting anything new here and resources have been diverted away from developing the sort of content they want. They are also being told that they can’t play the game the way they like to and that they have been sold on all these years. Veteran players have lost out here. New players are good for the health of the game and Ubisoft’s revenues, but let’s be honest it is the latter that is more important to them. I have never run into an issue with queue times for any game mode. I never find the dz empty. This is window dressing to sell us something that really isn’t for us. And the sad thing is that most veteran players I speak to would open their wallets in an instant if the devs announced a season like we had in Div 1, which came with Survival, Last Stand, Underground, and Resistance. They are happy to pay for the type of content they want to play. But I guess Ubi gets more money from skins that new players will buy.

  • @toqkeus1311

    @toqkeus1311

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming thanks for your time in enlightening me and giving a different perspective, man. Respect!

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    No problem. Thank you also for raising some good challenges in a mature way. Good debate is always appreciated here.

  • @trudahkness9976
    @trudahkness9976Ай бұрын

    This could've all been avoided, if they didn't decide to completely lock Characters out of Seasonal Content if they're not Seasonal Characters.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    To be honest, I don't think anyone wants seasons any more. The current is just the same old content with a voice over. Tedious. What we want is what we have always wanted. Replayable content.

  • @trudahkness9976

    @trudahkness9976

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming I'd Kill to get Underground & Resistance back honestly. Survival too!

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Absolutely. I would pay to get them back.

  • @SurvivalSavvvy
    @SurvivalSavvvyАй бұрын

    I do not plan to do it. I am to going to create temp characters or even pay 10 bucks for this garbage. Should had been some new worlds.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed. We do have the Brooklyn DLC coming so new zone to look forward to, but I would much prefer they focused their resources on new replayable content rather than how to drive new player growth.

  • @PatrickF.Fitzsimmons
    @PatrickF.FitzsimmonsАй бұрын

    No they are wrong because its year six, what else do you expect them to do.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I’m not sure why year 6 is relevant. Destiny just hit 10 years and they are still releasing new content that isn’t a rehash of old content. WoW is 20 years old. New content. The age is somewhat irrelevant for a live service game.

  • @PatrickF.Fitzsimmons

    @PatrickF.Fitzsimmons

    29 күн бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming I played destiny since day one, not played it since lightfall, its a mess. The game is done. they just had their last expansion, there won't be another, its been dying for a couple, of years.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    29 күн бұрын

    From the outside my impression is that Destiny lost players due to expansions being poor and the player base not liking them (lightfall). However, the final shape was well received with good story, missions, raid, and content, and players have returned. It’s about now I make the comparison with Div 2 releasing seasonal characters that the majority of the current player base don’t want rather than the new replayable content that they do want which would see players return to the game. If Destiny 2 can do it at year 10, Div 2 can at year 6.

  • @DavisCrimsonGaming
    @DavisCrimsonGamingАй бұрын

    Guess this current season TD2 right now will be my last season to play and enjoy. Until Season 2 come out..i will be retired TD2 forever until TD3 coming released~hehe I will play mmorpg games like Elder scroll online,fallout 76 and others mmo games first while waiting TD3 hehe.. Lucky i got alot games to play include PS5 games haha..so no problem for me can wait TD3 in 3 years later..

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe come back for the Brooklyn DLC in early 2025. Other than that, there are a lot of games to play.

  • @DavisCrimsonGaming

    @DavisCrimsonGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming maybe not coming back haha. Since I already decided that didnt want spend more pennies for Ubisoft's greed anymore. Better i spend a pennies for Capcom's Monster Hunter Wilds on early 2025 Next Year muhehe..

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@DavisCrimsonGaming Hopefully MHW will nail it. They usually do.

  • @DavisCrimsonGaming

    @DavisCrimsonGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming yeah they always does nailed it since first mh2 16 years ago hehe

  • @Paragon._.
    @Paragon._.Ай бұрын

    Ironic that the Division fan base is divided

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Good one. 🤣

  • @imonyourside8376
    @imonyourside8376Ай бұрын

    Ubisoft has always made bad decisions, had the best game world in their hands and never have made the right decisions on things. Unsurprising but I knew long ago this would fail. RIP would could have been.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Yes, not the best track record!

  • @AstraKitsune
    @AstraKitsuneАй бұрын

    Yey we kept that shitshow alive after season 4 fiasco... About a year with no new content, we kept it alive till season 9 revived it slightly. And this is our reward? Seasonal characters are just pointless, it's literal year 6, it's just way too late.

  • @SuperMattb17
    @SuperMattb17Ай бұрын

    I wouldnt say the franchise has always treated players well. Div 2 has been a roadmap of glitches and nerfs since day one - it is only in a half decent state now. And seriously, how long has the player base been asking for a survival and underground mode and just been ignored. This has to be the begining of the end. The focus on 'new' players surely cant work at this point of the games lifecycle. Who will pick up the game now that doesnt already have it? I dont believe we will see any more dlc....it will be abandonded just like Heartland.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I meant from a cash point of view. One upfront purchase and then content for years is pretty good. But I agree, the requests for the content players actually want has been largely ignored. Heartland was survival 2.0 but they wanted to monetize it more. There are still new players coming into the game so it is not a ridiculous strategy. The use of ‘a new beginning’ in the presentation was very FF14 ish and it’s reboot. As for DLC, Brooklyn is confirmed …. unless they cancel it!!

  • @QuietTeeLuv
    @QuietTeeLuvАй бұрын

    I really do enjoy playing BUT to be honest the game has gotten boring. They made the mission too long to complete a story line. PLUS it's boring looking at thetje same 2 maps NY/DC. Why not adventure to another state like on the west coast. So virus is only in these 2 states ijs🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    We do have a new zone coming in Brooklyn in 2025 at least.

  • @synthetadyne
    @synthetadyneАй бұрын

    Your comments about Survival/Underground/Resistance are spot on. Revenue generating mechanics are exactly what Ubisoft is after because they ultimately want new player money to be injected into the live service machine that is Division 2. It’s more profitable to virtually erase the barrier to entry for new players while making them feel just as powerful as veteran players (via seasonal characters), all in the hopes they’ll buy cosmetics, battle passes, and the like. This issue we are seeing happen before our eyes is indeed the bane of any live service game.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    It’s about now that I wonder if a subscription model is better for us as players than what we currently have. If the developers have a steady and known revenue stream are they more likely to create content for the existing player base?

  • @josephm6808

    @josephm6808

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGamingI for one would gladly pay for a subscription based Division series if that came with much better support and a steady stream of improvements/additions to the game. If they told me tomorrow they wanted to go live service subscription with the promise of all hands on deck working on the franchise, I’m sure me and many others would be all for it. But this wreaks of a quick cash grab from an influx of new clientele, shame on us who have stuck through thick and thin and weathered all the “massive” storms in the past. Just sucks.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Spot on.

  • @Straightleg55
    @Straightleg55Ай бұрын

    Of course we are disappointed, we always are. TD2 is a zombie, as it should have been replaced by TD3 years ago. And now Ubisoft is trying to keep the players happy until an unfinished TD3 will be presented in a few years. But you can't invest too much in TD2 either.... is hardly making any money anymore, let's not forget that.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Well we don’t know how much it is making. The monetization has been increasing steadily over the last year with paid bundles getting more and more frequent. The season passes have always been there. So it might be making more than we think. This is less about making the existing players happy, and more about making the game more accessible to new players. Removing all the barriers to entry.

  • @stoopidhoomons
    @stoopidhoomonsАй бұрын

    The character's?? you mean the massive marketing campaign to shove their other failing products on us ,all the while using the division as only a HOOK to drag us all in to it , i knew that was going to happen 30 seconds in , the division isn't here for us it's here for them to make money off of suckers they created there is no new story or details , it's make work ,till their next cash cow comes out , i like playing , but im starting not to . Until the GAMING community takes a stand and says enough, we will never have what we want and even then we would never get what we want because greed rules this world , and thats sad.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    The best way to make a stand is with our wallets with Ubisoft. Only way we can influence them to change. It is sad.

  • @damianx1089
    @damianx1089Ай бұрын

    I've moved on

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Nooooooo 😢

  • @jakegaunt4389
    @jakegaunt4389Ай бұрын

    The man hunt is just base game activities with a voice over at the end. Ubi is a joke.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Exactly. It isn’t new. It is rehashing the same content again and again.

  • @rubenhargis5454
    @rubenhargis5454Ай бұрын

    Yup it's all about money for the end game this horse 💩

  • @costantin75
    @costantin75Ай бұрын

    A few months ago I was curious about how dificult Div2 is to new players. So I took my Wony character, who had very random equipment and after 90 minutes of grinding it had equipment good enought to play heroic, without using any of the watch points. This is not a hard game. The only difficult part is the learning process.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    I would agree with that particularly post Project Resolve and all the buffs it delivered. I remember when the game launched and it felt much tougher. You got caught in the open and it was game over. Now with all the power creep you can face tank most of the content with the right build. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @blckandwhtknight
    @blckandwhtknightАй бұрын

    First lets be clear, you are complaining about something you THINK is coming... Second, NEW CONTENT IS COMING! ...its the DLC, which certainly will be paid, and include a level increase and new gear making all your precious "hard earned" builds worthless. Probably mods will still be good, but again, don't know. Maybe there will be exotic mods. One thing is clear it will do what Warlords did, reset the game. Thirdly, yes seasons are a catch- up mechanic allowing new players to jump into the game and play relevant content with other players. They need to get all players ready for the DLC and hopefully draw new players as hype builds. As a side, some players love a good loot drop game. That's one thing that made Survival mode fun in D1, being excited for a purple drop. Currently i break everything down for mats because ive got everything i need. I like seasons in my loot games, it changes things up.

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    You first point doesn’t make sense. They announced the content so we know it is coming and based on my knowledge of the game and the developer I have made some reasonable assumptions around the details they touched on. And yes I actually refer to the Brooklyn DLC many times in the video. Interestingly you have made some assumptions here as we don’t know that there will be a level increase. And if there is, which seems unlikely given the only other level increase was before expertise and optimization was introduced into the game, we don’t know if they would include a system to increase the gear level of existing weapons. So it is not clear at all that it will reset the game. That is a big assumption with no data to support it either way. I’m glad that you agree that the announcements were for the benefit of new players and not existing players. As I said in the video, a larger player base is good for the long term health of the game. But it is perfectly reasonable for the existing community to be upset that there is no content for them and that their investment in the game is being disregarded. If Massive had been less disingenuous about it, more open and honest about who benefits from this and why they were doing it, maybe the community would be more accepting of it. Ubisoft Massive is a huge company. They have the resources to deliver changes for new players and deliver new repeatable content for existing players. So why are we so eager to suck it up and accept we are getting nothing.

  • @bazza426
    @bazza426Ай бұрын

    OG Players got ucked over hard with yr6 facts

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    In a nutshell, yes.

  • @fernandofreeman1954
    @fernandofreeman1954Ай бұрын

    This game is stupid . Is Just about buy the outfit, dead game .. they dont know What to do,

  • @aaronchristopher812
    @aaronchristopher812Ай бұрын

    This franchise is dead in the water

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    The walking dead maybe limping on til it’s end. But no, the Brooklyn DLC is yet to come so not quite on life support.

  • @garytomas5411
    @garytomas5411Ай бұрын

    It’s very underwhelming no thought yet again it’s the same rubbish copied and pasted thank god I’ve moved on to xdefiant it’s what the division pvp should have been

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Xdefiant looks like a pretty good game. Thinking of trying it out as well.

  • @patheticcircus3774
    @patheticcircus3774Ай бұрын

    If I can’t use my builds that I’ve spent thousands of hours building I won’t play it will be the end for me I have over 10K hours

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Wait for the Brooklyn DLC. It will hopefully be delivering content that the community does want to play.

  • @phillipsestrada2539
    @phillipsestrada2539Ай бұрын

    It’s bs

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Yes.

  • @Mofock1986
    @Mofock1986Ай бұрын

    The seasonal thing should be OPTIONAL not forced down the throat of vets and new players alike

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Agreed, but I think we have to look at the motives behind this. This is about making the game more accessible to new and casual players by eliminating the gap between them and veteran players. Same thing Blizzard has done over the years because it generates more revenue. For it to work, everyone has to be pulled into it. This one is not for us.

  • @hellbilly666st
    @hellbilly666stАй бұрын

    It’s just an update guys. It’s not that serious 😂

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Seasons 2.0 isn’t planned for just one season. It is the structure going forward. So a little more than just an update. 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @hellbilly666st

    @hellbilly666st

    Ай бұрын

    @@NYLCasualGaming Still it’s just a game. lol No one is gonna die just cause Ubisoft once again disappointed their player base

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    @@hellbilly666st What do you mean, it’s just a game?! There are agents lives on the line!!! 🤣

  • @timw8948

    @timw8948

    Ай бұрын

    @@hellbilly666st .. We know that no one is going to die. Dont be a jack ass. people have a right to be upset when something THEY PAID FOR is not going well.The next time your order food from a restaurant, if they totally mess up your order, eat it anyway and don't say anything., right prick.

  • @AZ-dj1ni

    @AZ-dj1ni

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@NYLCasualGaming🤣

  • @babytaz5926
    @babytaz5926Ай бұрын

    Ill stick to Division 1, D2 is and always will be dog shit

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    Have they turned the GE calendar back on at all? I am suspecting this happened to drive players to Div 2.

  • @GUNFU_U
    @GUNFU_UАй бұрын

    This is trashhhh

  • @NYLCasualGaming

    @NYLCasualGaming

    Ай бұрын

    The video or Seasons 2.0?

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