"The most compassionate people," my ass. If they were compassionate, they wouldn't insist that others spend on the liberals' charity of choice, which is the government. Compassionate people would just give what THEY had and be content with that. Spending other people's money is not compassion. It's theft.

@Dahveed1982

Ай бұрын

Did you ever think your dismissal of other human beings has an effect on your ability to spread your message?

@MagnifiedGiant

Ай бұрын

@@Dahveed1982 How did they "dismiss other human beings"? By disagreeing?

@JamesR1986

Ай бұрын

@@MagnifiedGiant OP's problem is less that he is dismissing other human beings as much as he thinks paying a proportion of his income to taxes is just as bad as being homeless, poor, sick, disabled et ceterea. Whether that is because he equates paying taxes to being destitute or because the indignity of paying for taxes is an indignity that he suffers specifically, I don't know.

@MagnifiedGiant

Ай бұрын

@@JamesR1986 Harrymills is correct though. Conservatives give their own money to charity where Liberals largely take other peoples money to do their charity.

@dereksbooks

9 күн бұрын

It's pretty easy to be generous with someone else's money.

These distinctions are vital, thank you for shining a light on this

@dereksbooks

9 күн бұрын

So sick of conservatives calling authortians "liberals." Mark Dice, looking at you. Stop it!

Liberals should support liberty and limited government, and understand how the two are inextricably linked. So "liberals" who support nanny government are not liberal, by definition.

@Dahveed1982

Ай бұрын

“should”, but they don’t. Their hearts are in the right place but they don’t understand. We should educate them instead of condemning them.

@JamesR1986

Ай бұрын

Left liberals like myself believe that a lack of capital in the grand scheme of things is far more restricted to human freedoms then a functioning democratic government.

@chivomartinez

Ай бұрын

Are fascists

@frequentlycynical642

Ай бұрын

You couldn't be more wrong by either history or definition. FDR, JFK, and LBJ weren't liberal? Gimme a break.

@LoreleiBeatrix

14 күн бұрын

They already have a title for those people and they are called "Libertarian." It depends on your very definition of "limited government." Now I am all for liberty; however, there needs to be some regulation. I was at one time considered a "progressive" (like Greenwald and Taibi) until the movement got completely wrapped up in this whole cultural "woke" ideology, and it took precedence over what the real issue is-- and that is the undoing of the legacy of the policies founded by both TR and FDR by the Reagonomics ("greed is good") policies that are still in effect today and thus have created this huge wealth gap (and created this new Robber Baron Redux class) that is only becoming more outrageous by the decade and have completely corrupted both sides of our government. The only reason to really create a "nanny state" would be if the government took over healthcare--but to be honest, the government does not care about the welfare of it's people to even consider creating a public option for healthcare... let alone, care about the "health" of people. If they did, it's because they got some huge incentive from the food conglomerates and/or pharmaceutical companies. Both parties are too busy fighting wars which are not ours to fight; therefore, creating even bigger immigration crisis than before, while lining the pockets of the Robber Barons of the industrial-military complex. Nonetheless, we have enough income to not only take in the millions of "asylum seekers" at our borders (as well as flying them in, too); however, when it comes to the taxpayers, who sweated and built this country off their labor for years (or even decades)--they can't even get a leg up. Meanwhile, corporations are doing everything to consolidate their wealth by creating huge conglomerates and monopolies, and intentionally seeking out to destroy potential competitors, while keeping the worker's wages as low as possible. Another way to do this is to saturate the labor market with low-skilled workers--while taxpaying Americans cannot find a job to support themselves and/or their families and home/rent prices and inflation growing substantially higher than wages.

He's right. I'm a Liberal and today I'm called "Far-Right".

@frequentlycynical642

Ай бұрын

Ditto. I've always called myself a classic, FDR type liberal. Government that works for the people, levels playing fields. I've long been a fan of Bill Maher, as he espouses the ideals that I, and apparently you, have. And in the last year the right wingers have latched onto him thinking he's gone all rightie, not understanding what classical liberalism is about. One of my best friends is a Trumper and the overlap on many topics is frightening, but perfectly valid.

@gagestandingready1472

Ай бұрын

@@frequentlycynical642 you're a good dude

@jcopp2031

Ай бұрын

@@frequentlycynical642 "a classic, FDR type liberal" FDR was most certainly NOT a liberal, at least not in the classical sense of the word. FDR was a left leaning progressive just like his hero Wilson. FDR, like Wilson, saw the federal government as the be-all end-all for everything. Where Wilson started the expansion of government, FDR vastly expanded it into every aspect of life and society. After the SCOTUS declared several of FDR's alphabet agencies to be unconstitutional, he coerced the SCOTUS by threatening to pack the court by expansion. Other than Wilson, FDR was arguably the least liberal president in the history of the US.

@frequentlycynical642

Ай бұрын

@@jcopp2031 Got it.

@SlowGraffitiVideo

Ай бұрын

I was called a bleeding heart liberal in 2016 and now I’m a right wing shill without changing a damned thing. That’s fine.

Progressivism: Immanentize the Eschaton "A nation, as expressed in the State, is a living, ethical entity only in so far as it is progressive" --“The Doctrine of Fascism” by Benito Mussolini

Is like the difference between marxism, socialism and communism.

@Twoyutes74

Ай бұрын

EXACTLY! I used to try to explain this to people. Universal healthcare, or FICA is socialist, but can still exist in a capitalist republic. Anti-trust laws are a bit marxist as they concede that the means of production will concentrate if left unchecked and thence the common man will be exploited. But people throw around the world socialist or marxist like they automatically mean communist russia. 😅

@chivomartinez

Ай бұрын

@@Twoyutes74 Cancer initial stage, metastatic and terminal is always cancer and we shouldn’t want to have it. Marxism, socialism and communism are different stages of the same disease. All negative and deadly for a healthy society if let to advance.

Thank you for this. Nice to hear a calm, rational, talk about these distinctions.

Just different stages of the same disease. Don’t fool yourself. It’s all the same but just different moments of it’s evolution.

Zuby plus Shellenberger deserves more views!

I prefer the term "Regressive Left" to describe so-called "Progressives" (an Orwellian term in this context).

YESSSSS! I try to explain this to people all the time. And I have seen that older generations and people who don't pay attention to politics have a harder time understanding the difference.

@MagnifiedGiant

Ай бұрын

Yeah the difference is that they start out dumb and get dumber and more crazier the more you go to the left.

Minimal. They all want to undermine traditional society. It's just various degrees of politeness.

@IslaSkye123

Ай бұрын

💯

The Bible mentions in the final days “In the last days, right will be wrong, and wrong shall be right” That time is now Whether you believe in the Bible or not

@jamesryan476

21 күн бұрын

But this stuff is just a sign that Western societies failing. This has happened before and it might happen again. Roman and Greek societies probably felt the same way you do.

Sargon is correct about this topic. The left and progressivism are outgrowths of liberalism. You can make the case that they are the inevitable conclusion of liberalism, merely the full expression of liberalism.

@anastasiawortham8833

13 күн бұрын

I think that the argument that they are inevitable conclusion of liberalism has been proven because liberalism has never stopped short of progressivism and leftism.

I'm gonna feel the need to reference the political compass to accompany this when I watch it aren't I...

It's quite easy (if you're not an American) Left is progressive. Right is conservative. --------------------------------^-------------------------------- On a completely separate line... illiberal .... liberal liberal liberal .... illiberal --------------------------------^-------------------------------- You run into problems when you start believing that liberal is the opposite of conservative. In America, that WAS once the case, when, in Bill Maher's childhood era, and a little more recent, the organized religious and ultra-conservative order reigned supreme. The push-back against the obvious illiberal oppression was legit. But now? Cut it out. Liberal Progressives and liberal Conservatives need to stand united against the intolerant and illiberal far-left and far-right. (Actually, the alt-left and traditional far-right) Welcome to the broad, and reasonably tolerant, Center.

@frequentlycynical642

Ай бұрын

This classic liberal can live with this.

There are two axis to the political spectrum. Right and Left are the X axis. Liberty and Authoritarian are on the Y axis. A Left Authoritarian is a Progressive and a Right Authoritarian is a Conservative. A Left pro-Liberty is called a Liberal and a Right pro-Liberty is called a Libertarian.

Two other words that have new “definitions” Phobia (the FEAR of something) I am not transphobic, I just can’t relate. The other is Racist. Which used to be defined as HATING ALL PEOPLE OF THE SAME RACE, because of their race. I selectively dislike certain individuals, but not ALL people who happen to share a common ancestry.

#20

That this has been isolated from the larger show I can address this in specific. When the word Liberal is used (capital for distinction) it referring to European Socialists and the American academic/ruling class that has always looked to Europe for guidance. This---> 'liberal"

#21

Inversion is the name of the game.

The three telos model explains this perfectly

#18

whats a libertarian ? Left Right , Liberal , Conservative ?

@goldenvulture6818

13 күн бұрын

A libertarian can be left-wing or right-wing

I think this "left", "right" "center" is BS. Unless you address a specific subject, the label is meaningless. If you mention something like "Defense Spending", "Abortion", etc., individuals attitudes can change with each subject. Why do Americans have to be 100% one way or the other, or in "middle ground" on everything.

people seem to have made a definition or an assessment 10, 20 30 years ago...but as time has passed, they have not updated their views. so they are 'stuck' in an outdated version of 'reality'. it's a shame. 🙏🏽

These are all just different terms for subversion via Judaism

@idiotproofdalek

Ай бұрын

Nah you just hate jews. Go away.

@frequentlycynical642

Ай бұрын

Aren't your copies of Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion getting a big worn out?

@24tommy109

Ай бұрын

@@frequentlycynical642 I notice how you didn't call me wrong :) What are those? I'll be sure to pick them up, thanks for the recommendation

@frequentlycynical642

Ай бұрын

@@24tommy109 I'm more mature than to indulge in an on line argument with an ideologue.

@24tommy109

Ай бұрын

@@frequentlycynical642 Before you run off, i was thinking I could save some money and get a lend of your mein kampf instead of buying it. Surely if you think it's bad, you must have read it?