Great video, Jere. I have had my Henrob for more than 20 years and I love it. I do less welding with it since I added a TIG machine to the shop and TIG is what I trained on in the Navy. It is really cool to use it on welding low alloy steel with TIG filler rod - the hand feel and bead are similar to TIG. I mostly use the Henrob for lost wax casting now for which it is more power than is needed. I was just looking for a better casting torch when I came across this video. Nice to see people still talking about the Henrob and nice to see the design hasn't changed - that's the sign of a good design, I think. Even though the Henrob has been gradually edged out in my shop over the years as I got a TIG welder, plasma torch, horizontal bandsaw, etc, I'm super glad that the Henrob was a corner stone of my shop tools starting out and I'm glad I still have it. This next torch will be a Swiss torch, I think. For jewelry I use the Smith little torch. Casting calls for something more and people often use a victor-style torch, which, like the Henrob, is more than is needed. I just learned that the Swiss torch is supposed to use Propane and not Acetylene. Great, I no longer have a propane tank in that area. Jewelers talk quite a bit about switching from acetylene to propane. The extra heat from acetylene is usually not needed and no one likes the soot from acetylene.

Great video. Thanks for sharing this. I didnt realize how the mixing pattern was different.

Bought my Hen Rob torch when they were called Dillon Torch. Thinking about 30 years ago. Have liked it ever since.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

7 ай бұрын

It has been my go to torch from purchase.

Thanks Jere.

Exceptionally clear explanation Jere. There appears to be much confusion as to the origin of the Dillon MkIV, Henrob 2000 and the DHC 2000 also known as Cobra Torch. They are almost the same. Detroit Torches claim that the idea came from Sweden. This is simply not true. Since the early 70s the torch was developed and patented by Nicholas Thomas Edward Dillon; a proud Australian who lived in 10 East Street Magill in South Australia (1976). He eventually sold the idea to others! However this is far from the end or the beginning of the story. A very similar pistol gripped torch was designed and patented by Edmond Fouche'; yes a Frenchman. (Not to be confused with Edmund Davies who discovered Acetylene in 1836) Fouche' and his other countryman engineer Charles Picard invented Oxy acetylene welding in 1903. In 1919 Fouche' patented the first version of this pistol grip oxy torch. The same Nicholas Dillon acknowledged the existence of Fouche's torch in his 1976 Australian Patent. He ended up using much of the Fouche' torch in his model. Unfortunately one cannot post here on utube the image of the 1919 Fouche torch. He noted in earlier oxy torches (the long barrel type) " the short period of contact between the two gases in the mixing conduit of the apparatus is insufficient for completely mixing the two gases " Anyone that sees his design will note and appreciate the sheer genius of Fouche' who should be given the real merit of what we now call the Cobra Torch.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

Ай бұрын

Thanks for your reply. I knew the torch started as the Dillon from Australia but not some of the earlier info. I love learning STUFF. Jere

Lots of great tips here, Jere!

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Ron. Yes. A #1 on the Hen Rob and an #0 on the Victor. I would have had this posted sooner but I was busy last weekend. Jere

Some detail on my earlier comment….after struggling with the Henrob trying to hold it in the pistol grip and doing it freehand without supporting my forearm - I watched your video. I was so stoked about the tips on the “pencil grip” and supporting the forearm, I went out to the garage to practice them. Within an hour I ran a great, straight bead on a butt weld of .032 mild steel sheet metal. I got great penetration and a great supporting crown on the bead. Sounds like boasting but all credit to your advice! Thank you! Please do a video on welding tubing and fillet welds on sheet metal. You are a natural instructor and an obvious master craftsman! Thank you so much!

@jerekirkpatrick2092

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Charles. I'm sure with some practice you will be able to produce outstanding welds in any position and joint type. Keep after it. Jere

Great wrap up to a most enjoyable series. Many thanks Jere.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Mr. Firestone Thank you. I learned that there is not much difference between the two torches. You just have to know which one is correct for the job you are doing. Jere

Great suggestion on how to hold the Henrob - thanks!

Hello Jere, Another interesting video... I continue to learn a lot from this series... thank you. Take care. Paul,,

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Paul. Hope there was some information you could use in this video. Jere

Great info on the torches. Thanks for sharing the brazing and the two torches.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Randy. I learned a couple of things while making this video. I hope the info was use full for others. Jere

Looking back to 2005, I was showing the Banjo GT in an indoor show in Canton Ohio. A vendor was demoing the Henrob, and one came back to my shop. The sells pitch was he was welding 2 alum beer cans together. Never got that done, but now 2023 set have the tourch (@@)! Never used after i bought an everlast 256s, but will teach my 14 year old grandson how to weld with both someday 🙂 Bear in TX.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

Жыл бұрын

Hi Bear. Different torches will deliver different results. Knowing how to get the results required for the specific job is another skill set. Jere

Your explanation was superb, thanks. 🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧

@jerekirkpatrick2092

Жыл бұрын

Hi Simon. Having the cutaway makes it easier to show the difference. Thanks for watching and please subscribe. Jere

Interesting video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Super. I hope there was some use full information for you. Jere

@SuperAWaC

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerekirkpatrick2092 Most certainly. I think I will pick up a henrob torch at some point just to play around with it, even though I tend to tig braze

100% agree with you. Thanks for the video.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

Жыл бұрын

Hello Ramon. Your welcome. Both torches have their place in the tool box. Jere

I'm seriously considering picking up a Hen Rob. Thanks for this series Jere!

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Matt. That's why we have a complete set of wrenches. A Crescent Wrench will do, but why not complete the tool box. I'm sure you will grow to like the Hen Rob. Don't say to yourself "this isn't like my other torch". It isn't. Thanks. Feel free to call if you have any questions about getting set up. Jere

@mattthescrapwhisperer

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerekirkpatrick2092 many thanks Jere!

When i was a kid the Harris Company in Cleveland had the Coolest Neon Sign , it was a Torch that the Flame would change

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Dave. That would really be a neat sign to have hanging in the shop. Thanks for watching. Jere

Thankyou for the video Jere. I am out if the flux for aluminum welding that came with the henrob torch. I notice other fluxes don't work near as well at all! The Henrob product had a Flouride salt in it. Do you know if this is still available? Other brands don't have this. I've had lots of fun welding aluminum with the torch including welding 2 beer cans together without blowing through just to see if it could be done. Can't do it without the flux I got with the torch many yrs ago.

Thanks, Jere

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Rex. I hope this was informative for you. Jere

I sure appreciate all the knowledge you pass along. This has been a great series. Have you ever shown that nifty manifold that supplies the gas to the torch? Did you build it yourself?

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Robert. Soon I will be doing a complete walk through my complete Oxy welding setup. You will see how the Gas Saver is set up so I can use both torches. All of the pieces were off the shelf items. Thanks. Jere

@pontoonrob7948

2 жыл бұрын

@Jere Kirkpatrick awesome, you are so generous. If I were a little closer to retirement I'd come work for free...I think that highly of what you are doing here.

I bought the Dillon MK IV which is the same thing l was at the speed equipment show in Daytona and paid $364.00 in 1989 a lot of money 💰 then the old boy demonstrating it was a hell of a salesman. It’s a remarkable torch l use it a lot!

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Mike. Your salesman was probably Dal McGill. He could sell an ice cube to an Eskimo. You must have the right tool for the job. Thanks for watching. Jere

If the Hem Rob was what i started out with it wouldnt seem so different. When i get to using it i get use to it fast it would also help me to get some 1/4 inch hoses. I got the propane tips with mine but havent used them much. Looking forward to some aluminum welding thanks.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Doug. The more you use something the more comfortable you become using it. Soon I will have the red and green hoses available on my web sight. You can see them in the Victor brazing video. Check them out. I am quoting on some moor aluminum plenum chambers. If I get the job I will show welding them. Jere

Hi Jere, You've got the torch right side up as far as I'm concerned. Using it your way helps prevent bumping the knobs with your wrist and loosing your flame adjustment. This is the same way I was taught when at A&P school under they used the U.S. Navy training program.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dick. It always seemed natural to me. When I was younger I was told I was doing it the wrong way but I never listened. Jere

@dicksargent3582

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerekirkpatrick2092 It's not the first time being hard headed turned out to create a good mechanic :)

Nice to see the differences . I would like to know if you needed to apply lead to a joint using these processes Would the lead / solder filler be affected. example using it on a sail panel or a fender small repair area also proper cleansing prior to lead filler? Thanks Jere.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dan. Many car bodies were joined, in places, from the factory by the use of brass and then given a skim coat of lead for the ease of finishing. Having a good clean area around a joint is always a good idea. Good question. Jere

Hey thanks again Jere, great info as usual. I curious though, do you also light the Henrob with the old aircraft factory method? (Using gages to set mixture). Cheers.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Eddie. Yes. All tips require a different regulator setting. That includes cutting torch and rose bud. Thanks for watching. Jere

Jere, when are you likely to do the second part of the Nickle plating video?

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

We are waiting for John to let us know if he wants it back in Santa Cruz. When we find out I will make a video with the details. Jere

Enjoyed…interesting

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chuck. Jere

It's also common to remove the heavy castings from the Henrob and "skeletonize" them as tinmantech shows an example of.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

Жыл бұрын

Comm. Kent White has many torches that he has used over the years and his modified Hen Rob is one of them. I had thought about doing that but it would negate using it for cutting and welding heavier material. Jere

@Comm0ut

2 ай бұрын

@@jerekirkpatrick2092 His collection is nicely chosen. I use short "aircraft" torches for most of my welding (Airco, Oxweld, Victor, Uniweld, Purox) rather than the longer Victor neither of us much care for. I never really liked most Victor handles but have the usual heaps of their stuff for heavy cutting like scrapping. For larger torches I prefer classic Oxweld and relatives as there is something for every ergonomic preference. Too bad Thermadyne ended most of their lines but the torches of course are abundant. I have everything shown in the Oxwelder's Handbook since I wanted to sample all the flavors. 🙃 BTW I'm a retired jet mech and do the same as you re: torque wrenches as most torques are really for "pattern matching". Subscribed.

Jere, related and important topic; might you consider putting together a video on post braze (or weld for aluminum) flux removal and clean-up? What actions do you recommend to assure that flux leaching will not compromise a painted finish? Cheers!

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Trotter. Cleaning up after brazing is fairly straight forward. Remove all flux and wire brush. Cleaning up after oxy welding aluminum can take a while. Hot soapy water (to remove flux), wire brush, fill any cracks or hiding places, tell the painter you did the best you could. Tell the customer the painter didn't do a good job cleaning. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe. Jere

@trottermalone379

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerekirkpatrick2092 Ha Ha Ha... Thanks for being honest! I'm going to move this chat over to your Patrion page and maybe bring a few new subscribers with me. See you there. Cheers, el

@chrishoesing5455

7 ай бұрын

​@@jerekirkpatrick2092wish I could add a laugh emoji to this comment

Thanks for this, Jere. It has been an informative series. I hope you treated your crack graphics department to something nice. Joe

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Good morning Joe. I hope people now understand that the Hen Rob is not a scary boogeyman. They are just a better tool for certain jobs. The graphics guy did such a good job, he is now allowed to use the scissors without supervision. Jere

@Joe.Doucette

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha. I hope you don't let him run with the scissors though. Honestly, I never heard of the Henrob/Dillion/Cobra torches until the later 90s (I live in the boonies) and still have yet to actually touch one. My health seems to be on the upswing (shhh) and I have started on a few little projects to get my sea-legs about me again. I'll try the copper as a filler rod this week just for the experience, thanks to you. Have a good week, Joe

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joe.Doucette Glad to hear you are getting better. Don't over do. Jere

@Joe.Doucette

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Sigh. If I were only that bright....

The hen rob looks just like the dhc2000 from detroit torch company

With the expense of acetylene, I am having to got to LP gas. I can buy cutting tips for the Victor style torch. Can the Hen Rob use LP gas?. I have no luck welding with LP gas. Do you have any suggestions on how I can combat the rising cost of acetylene?

@jerekirkpatrick2092

Жыл бұрын

Hi Tom. I'm sorry but I have no answers for you. I have been using this setup since the 50's and am quite happy with the results I am getting. The rising prices (rent, insurance, materials, and tools) has never been a factor since these costs are factored into my shop rate. Jere

How're you holding up with all the rain and flooding? I hope you haven't been affected too severely.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

Жыл бұрын

Hi ya Tosh. All is fine here. It's just been so cold here I don't want to spend the money to heat the barn just to shoot a video for a couple of hours. Great to hear from you. Hope all is well with you. I'm hoping to get a video up sometime this weekend. I'm surprised you found me on KZread. Jere

FYI Incase you're looking for used tools, the Henrob was called Cobra along time ago.before.

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Don. The torch was first introduced in Australia as the Dillon (it's inventor). When it came to the US , in Oregon, it became the Hen Rob. I was sold to a person in Michigan and became the Cobra torch. He began manufacturing a barrel type torch and changed the Cobra name to DHC 2000. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe. Jere

@donsummers11

2 жыл бұрын

@@jerekirkpatrick2092 Yeah, I knew there were other names but couldn't remember them. My storage box says Cobra on it. Thanks for the research.

I believe if you weighed the Victor torch with it's cutting attachment , the weight differences would be less .

@jerekirkpatrick2092

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Peter. I weighed both torches with the tips I used for the brazing videos so they would be apples to apples. Jere

Henrob also uses less gas

@jerekirkpatrick2092

7 ай бұрын

Only 4lbs.

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Please stop slapping/sucking your lips. With headphones it’s like your stabbing me in the ear. I couldn’t make it over a minute into the video.