The difference between Open & Closed cartridge forks | Offroad Engineered

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There are 2 types of suspensions out there, closed cartridge (chamber) forks and open cartridge (chamber) forks.
In this video, I'll explain you why open cartridge forks started losing performance during SuperCross and Motocross races, what makes closed cartridge forks so good for racing and which one is better for each application!
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0:00 Intro
0:19 Open-cartridge forks
1:02 Cavitation
3:36 Closed-cartridge forks
4:06 The closed cartridge
5:47 The bladder
6:10 Hysteresis
7:15 Spring Collar
7:49 "Closed" cartridge?
8:51 The cons of CC
9:24 How manufacturers choose one?
10:10 End
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  • @nunogens
    @nunogens3 жыл бұрын

    With these high quality videos you already deserved half a million subscribers! 💪💪💪

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Nuno!!! 💪💪 We'll get there! 😁 Um enorme abraço!

  • @carters2
    @carters23 жыл бұрын

    More of these suspension videos please. Excellent explanations!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!! 🙌🙌

  • @Duken4evr29
    @Duken4evr29 Жыл бұрын

    Good stuff! In my experience open cartridge is fine for most of us off road types and it is simpler and easier for an owner to service. Open cartridge feels plusher" off road in the rocks, hack and roots than closed. I don't race MX, and being an average Joe, I am simply not worthy as a rider of closed cartridge forks. Open for me 😆

  • @felixskw
    @felixskw3 жыл бұрын

    Very well explained and good quality video, well done!!!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Felix! I really appreciate it😁💪

  • @LCARSADV
    @LCARSADV3 жыл бұрын

    I love your dirt bike engineering vids! Keep up the good work! Also looking forward to the rest of the ktm story

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you so much man! I really appreciate it 😁💪 You have no idea how eagered I am to release those videos about the ktm story! If everything plays out as it is scheduled, next week I'm having a couple of interviews with ktm staff to add to the storyline! They were super open about contributing for the series but there's no way around corporate timelines. .. everything takes a long time to organise and to pull the trigger 😅 I'm hoping next couple of weeks I'll release something 😊

  • @AntiStressKit
    @AntiStressKit3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Thank you so much for the detailed information!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you for watching! 😁💪

  • @tomcherlet4886
    @tomcherlet48862 жыл бұрын

    Amazed by how well you explain all these things! Keep up the good work!!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Tom! I really appreciate 😄 you have a lot more to watch, enjoy 🙌

  • @f18a
    @f18a3 жыл бұрын

    Simply brilliant explanations and graphics. Nicely done.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!!! 🙌💪

  • @ryantitus4973
    @ryantitus4973 Жыл бұрын

    This was a great video! Awesome work and thanks for taking the time to do this video. It helped me in the buying process of a dual sport Beta 500 rr-s and evaluating my rider level/ intended use for the bike.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Ryan and I'm really glad I could help! 😄🙌

  • @Tom-gr4em
    @Tom-gr4em2 жыл бұрын

    This video was exactly what I was looking for! Great explaination, thankyou!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching and glad I could help! 😄

  • @enduringpursuit
    @enduringpursuit3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely perfect! Thank you. Best explanation I have seen.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching, I appreciate it! 💪

  • @jonganzer7478
    @jonganzer74783 ай бұрын

    REALLY good, this is the first explanation of the different forks that covers the technical reasons for one or the other. Thank you for taking time to put this all together and help out a lot of riders.

  • @diinosaurTaco
    @diinosaurTaco3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for all this info! Great video. Very informative.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you for watching 😁💪

  • @pirocaoPOWER
    @pirocaoPOWER3 жыл бұрын

    Great explanation, amazing video,congratulations !

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! 😀💪 I really appreciate it 👌😊

  • @tothepoint4240
    @tothepoint42402 жыл бұрын

    Dang...good video man. The animations make it pretty legit n helped me understand.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much Ian! Glad I could help you understand this 😊👊

  • @TheMadMagician87
    @TheMadMagician873 жыл бұрын

    Good information mate, thanks! Never ceases to amaze me what suspension engineers come up with. Simple parts like holes, shims, springs, seals and rods, get turned into magic all over the place inside the forks!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Couldn't agree with you more! 😁

  • @bwhaskell
    @bwhaskell2 жыл бұрын

    Man, i've been trying to explain the difference between open and closed chamber forks to my buddies for a while. You've explained it perfectly. Thanks! Now i'll just send this video to them :D

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I could help!! Thank you for sharing! 😁💪

  • @SpaceCowboy5555
    @SpaceCowboy5555 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, super clear explanation. thanks!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Glad I could help 🙂

  • @VallartaOffroad
    @VallartaOffroad3 жыл бұрын

    Very clear explanation - thanks!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you for watching! 😁

  • @unwrangler11
    @unwrangler112 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for showing the pro/s and con/s because up to now, I hadn’t considered it and they are considerable things to think about before changing anything.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad I could help and thank you for watching! 😄

  • @Chris-uh3cm
    @Chris-uh3cm Жыл бұрын

    Sooooooo good these videos help me out so much

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad to hear that! 😄

  • @myronstambaugh761
    @myronstambaugh7612 жыл бұрын

    Packed full of information! I learned the origin of the compound work "stiction" here. Static + Friction = Stiction Viola!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙌🙌🙌

  • @MRJRKAM
    @MRJRKAM2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent explanation, detail, clarity, animations, science, humour. I have no doubt many other viewers agree, your time and effort to produce these outstanding tutorials that are truly educational and knowledge empowering are absolutely appreciated, thank you

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you thank you thank you!! 🙌🙌🙏🙏

  • @danielcheng5070
    @danielcheng50702 жыл бұрын

    Awesome explain dude! Good jog!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I appreciate it! 😀

  • @dlb83082
    @dlb830822 жыл бұрын

    i learn so much from you dude!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Im really happy to know that ! 😄🙌

  • @bikedadryan4025
    @bikedadryan40252 жыл бұрын

    Hot damn! I have rebuilt my CC forks myself for years without really understanding how they work. This is incredible!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Now you know! 😄 I bet you'll be anticipating your nect fork rebuild just to take a look at everything with new knowledgeable eyes 😏😁 #knowledgeispower 💪

  • @shivvashishthabhargava4600
    @shivvashishthabhargava46005 ай бұрын

    Love your content bro. Genius ❤

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you!!! 🙌😄

  • @Lost1Byte
    @Lost1Byte Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that great explination!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!!

  • @capsitan
    @capsitan2 жыл бұрын

    Good info I was curious on what the difference was

  • @saethreehondas
    @saethreehondas3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent explanation!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you !! 🙌

  • @woopyboi449
    @woopyboi4493 жыл бұрын

    really excellent work!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank yoooouuuu!!!!

  • @juniordovale144
    @juniordovale144 Жыл бұрын

    Vídeo muito bom. Venho aprendendo muito com os Vídeos!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    Obrigado Junior! Fico muito contente! 😄

  • @OTDefense
    @OTDefense Жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 😊💪

  • @metalpower19
    @metalpower1910 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video bro

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @wolftracks2033
    @wolftracks20333 жыл бұрын

    èpá....fantástico Steps, parabéns, não tenho mais nada a dizer :)

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    😶😍 e eu não tenho agradecimento melhor do que isso! Muito obrigado! Se tiveres alguma duvida sobre o vídeo, não hesites em perguntar! 😁

  • @cartaun5276
    @cartaun5276 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant video

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! 🙌

  • @TheFrog767
    @TheFrog7673 жыл бұрын

    Another gem.👏👏👏👏🍻

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you!! 😁😁💪💪

  • @topstar3
    @topstar32 жыл бұрын

    This is honestly one of the best technical motocross related channels on KZread! Your explanations are simple enough that most people can understand, but you also provide lots of details for those who wish do dive deeper into the concepts.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so so much! I really appreciate the comment! 💪😄

  • @flapjackson6077
    @flapjackson60773 жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed the video very much! I have a KDX200 which has the 93-94 inverted forks, which appear to be the open cartridge type. It’s good to know that they’re perfectly fine for off road use. In addition, I like the simplicity of them. I was uneducated as to the difference between open and closed, but thanks to you, I’m now educated! Great job! Thanks!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so happy to hear that!!! Sir, you made my day 🙌 For offroad use, it's more than enough, specially if you don't race competitively.👌

  • @flapjackson6077

    @flapjackson6077

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium Subscribed! I assume you’re an engineer. You certainly understand the finer points of the fluid dynamics involved. I’m not an engineer, and don’t understand as much as you do, but I understand enough to appreciate your knowledge! Great job!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! And yes, I am a mechanical engineer 💪 nonetheless, Im an advocate that when you know what you are talking about, you can explain anything to anyone, it's just a matter of putting things into the right perspective, and if you tell me I managed that, I'll have feeling of job well done 😁

  • @flapjackson6077

    @flapjackson6077

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium lmao! A mechanical engineer! Of course! My buddy across the street from me is a mechanical engineer too! And he rides CR500s! You’d get along great with him! You’re attitude towards teaching is refreshing. The academics are very important, but the principles involved can be conveyed without the arduous math. I wish I knew the math, but you do a great of explaining things in practical terms. 👍

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Stop it! You're making me blush 😂 I'm stoked to hear that, I really appreciate you saying that. It makes all the hours spent so much more worth it 🙌🙌

  • @Speelbird
    @Speelbird10 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for your Videos regarding Suspension! In my Opinion the best Channel to understand this difficult Topic a bit better. And I just bought a WP XPLOR Pro 6500 closed Cartridge Kit for my 701 because of this Video, my Wife hates you

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    10 ай бұрын

    Say sorry to your wife for me 😅🤣🤣 Thank you so much for the nice words! Enjoy 💪 Take a look at our website in case your interested in learning further how to take full advantage of that new cartridge kit 😃

  • @braenzlig426
    @braenzlig4263 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video ! perfectly explained !

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate it! 💪Thank you for watching!🙏

  • @braenzlig426

    @braenzlig426

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium yeah really nice!, are you working on your own suspension? And what about the kyb akit we can see ? is that for your new beta ?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@braenzlig426 I'm starting to work with them! With covid and such, I haven't had the chance to ride the new bike and have solid feedback to work with but as soon as things get better, I'm going to! Those are not an A-kit, it's a regular KYB closed cartridge from a KYB fork. To be honest, you cant go wrong with KYB... zf and wp are known to have inherited problems. Kyb is the only one that seems to have a general consensus on its perfornance

  • @braenzlig426

    @braenzlig426

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium yeah kyb is maybe the best in the buisness, that was the reason for me to buy a newer generation gasgas. i dont really like the sachs/zf, they often have problems with the outer tube hardcoating that is sometimes wearing really bad. performance for hard enduro on wp and sachs is okay, and quality on wp in my experience is the best on the suspension market. but they started saving money on suspension production with the xplor stuff, thats why i dont really like it. -16 wp has awesome performance and really good tunability

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree with that! Wp for technical riding is probably the best stock form, but when you start riding faster, they start to give in...

  • @AndrewBoundy
    @AndrewBoundy3 жыл бұрын

    Great video - thanks

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    thank you for watching 😊

  • @rafadias8900
    @rafadias89003 жыл бұрын

    Vídeo incrível, quem sabe sabe 😉🔥

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Muito obrigado Rafa! 😁💪 grande abraço!

  • @bax257
    @bax2573 жыл бұрын

    Great video and well explained. Can you explain the mid valve as well and the difference on shim stacks? Thanks

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes I can, and yes I will! They are going to be the next few Offroad Engineered videos coming out 😊

  • @tonyhenriques1976
    @tonyhenriques19763 жыл бұрын

    Bom dia, mais um vídeo impecável, muito bom 👌👌👌. Fico a aguardar, pelo vídeo, com os pormenores da magia com as válvulas e lâminas para estas suspensões😜😜 Continuação de excelente trabalho. 👋👋👋

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Olá Tony! Muito obrigado!!! 😁 Em breveeee! Ainda falta um ou outro antes desse mas já está preparado 😆

  • @xanderrage9137
    @xanderrage91372 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. Suscribed

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! 🙌💪

  • @fushki
    @fushki3 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are great. Super clear explanations and great advice. I have tried to work out what the performance difference is between open and closed and struggled to find answers, Now I know. Thanks. When it comes to faster cornering and relatability in performance do you think closed is the way to go? Like say a super moto setup.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    you're welcome and I really appreciate the good word! Thank you! 😊 Honestly, for road use, an open cartridge should be more than enough, imo. the closed cartridge technology only came around to cope with the stresses from Moto/supercross. Enduro and off road in general, benefited afterwards since it got "cheaper" compared to the early beginings

  • @fushki

    @fushki

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium SO well serviced open setups will give you pretty much the same repeatability and handling unless you a beating it with big jumps. Sounds good and cheaper. Nice. Now just need to choose springs and oils to dial it in and not of that annoying gas filling.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    exactly! 😁 I'm glad I could help and if you have any other questions, don't hesitate in reaching out 😊

  • @mxtechnicalsupport
    @mxtechnicalsupport2 жыл бұрын

    these vids are so good.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! 🙌

  • @german13985
    @german139852 жыл бұрын

    Eres un maquina y gracias x tu ayuda

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gracias!!! 😄😄

  • @fuellerr
    @fuellerr3 жыл бұрын

    I do MX suspension and I think these are great videos

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for that! I really hope it helps even for experienced professional 💪💪🙌

  • @mxbadboy263
    @mxbadboy263 Жыл бұрын

    I finally understand a closed cartridge fork. Thank you! Now, what makes yamaha forks speed sensitive?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    All hydraulic damping systems (cartridges) are speed sensitive - It's kind of a redundant name to be honest xD

  • @tuskenridertv2678
    @tuskenridertv26782 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this explanation. What is the difference for the cone valve shocks?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Im working at the moment to partner up with WP to explain on the channel how their products work 💪

  • @krzysztofkreda4259
    @krzysztofkreda42593 жыл бұрын

    Good Job 👍👍👍

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Many many thanks!!💪

  • @ashwillmot2051
    @ashwillmot20512 жыл бұрын

    Great vid. Can you help me understand why installing a rising rate spring on the cartridge piston would increase small bump sensitivity and help with bottoming resistance?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    10 ай бұрын

    Hey Ash! Sorry to not have replied to this comment. It missed me! So, assuming that the rising rate spring starts off with a lower rate than the stock one, on the initial part of compressed stroke, the piston will apply fairly little hidraulic preload, allowing the forks to more easily compress without feeling that "harshness" cc forks are know for, and once the forks start compressing deeper, the hidraulic preload will increase exponentially since it isn't a linear rate as the stock one, providing more hidraulic preload and as a consequence, resistance to compression. Sorry for the lateness but better than never! 😅🙌🙏

  • @vagelismpounas9014
    @vagelismpounas90143 жыл бұрын

    mate if u have free time i definetly want to see the bigest diferense between psf1 and sss many ask on sites and there is almost none video explained so good as u can :)

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    The goal is to have videos about everything! Its a matter of time 😉 perhaps when Im full time on this, Ill be able to make them more frequently! These videos take a looooot of time to make, around 100 hours on average, so it takes time...

  • @vagelismpounas9014

    @vagelismpounas9014

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium i know mate take your time we have notification on when u post it 😁i just addressed it because many keep asking the benefits of factory suspension psf1 vs normal sss and no-one explained it good on KZread

  • @marcochavane3124
    @marcochavane3124 Жыл бұрын

    Its wild how closed systems dont seem that much more complex or expensive to produce, but are 2-3 times the cost of open systems.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    True indeed! 👌

  • @jeffdmax
    @jeffdmaxАй бұрын

    I just bought a 2024 KTM 300 xcw now with closed cartridge forks and cant seem to get the full stroke, probably 3-4in from bottoming. Is there an easy way to take out a little oil

  • @sniperpro_sa
    @sniperpro_sa Жыл бұрын

    I enjoyed the video, is there a way to modify the damping ability or the length of the trip?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    Revalving is usually an option! What do you mean with length of the trip?

  • @sniperpro_sa

    @sniperpro_sa

    Жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium It is the distance between the highest point of elevation and the lowest point of compression that varies with the weight of the occupant

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    It shouldn't change if you install the right spring rate

  • @Van_gocea
    @Van_gocea Жыл бұрын

    do you have a video on how to service them?or oil change

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    Nop, but you have several videos online about it 👌

  • @jorgevillaelx7723
    @jorgevillaelx7723 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🙌

  • @oTresSeteSete
    @oTresSeteSete3 жыл бұрын

    Para quando um curso presencial ou online sobre suspençoes?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Não desminto que algo do género não me passou pela cabeça mas ainda me falta algum estudo para poder passar conhecimento desse modo. Mas não excluo essa opção 😉

  • @karolek7171
    @karolek717110 ай бұрын

    You showed me how to take everything apart. Could you show how to take the top cap off.

  • @easyfix4765
    @easyfix4765 Жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @inspector0119
    @inspector01192 жыл бұрын

    Excelente trabalho!! Tenho uma dúvida em relação à minha suspensão KYB, faz um ligeiro assobio, pensei que fosse do disco do travão da frente mas parece mesmo da suspensão. Abraço

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Muito obrigado! 🙌 De facto não é normal isso. Teria que desmontar para conseguir perceber do que é 😛

  • @inspector0119

    @inspector0119

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium não tenho carrinha para a transportar, é estranho pois a mota é nova. Tenho sempre atenção em desapertar os purgadores...

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Faz isso sempre com a mota no cavalete 💪

  • @inspector0119

    @inspector0119

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium tenho feito mal então 😅 não tenho um cavalete. Deve chegar esta semana. É a minha primeira mota e não consegui comprar logo tudo de uma vez. Será que este "assobio" tem a ver com não ter a mota no cavalete e desapertar os purgadores?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Não te consigo dizer sem ver as suspensões 😬

  • @juantorres5651
    @juantorres56513 жыл бұрын

    Gran video explicativo 👍 Entendería mejor si fuese en español😁

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    muchas gracias Juan! 😁 Lo Sé y lo entiendo, Pero como deves imaginar, no és possible agradar a todos 😅😅

  • @juantorres5651

    @juantorres5651

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium lo comprendo, por cierto iba ir a la carrera de Paredes pero la cancelaron como era de esperar, para ti que carrera de las portuguesas es la más difícil?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lagares és la más difícil claro, pero de las carreras del PHES creo que la Gondomar Extreme és la más dura!

  • @markpotter714
    @markpotter7142 жыл бұрын

    Converting my stock WP KTM 500 to closed, I’ll let you know if a mere mortal sees the expected improvement. LOL thanks for the explanation....

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward for it!

  • @vagelismpounas9014
    @vagelismpounas90143 жыл бұрын

    I have question if the suspension is exact the same outside can i change the inside to close cartridge suspension?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    You can! Check out the link from technical touch in thr description below 😉

  • @vagelismpounas9014

    @vagelismpounas9014

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium thanks for reply brother keep posting videos like this i try improve my sss and i love your help keep the good work

  • @joelballard4955
    @joelballard495510 ай бұрын

    On closed chamber forks, does the outer chamber fluid volume really matter that much? It’s just lubricant at this point and provides no damping. Or does it?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    10 ай бұрын

    It not only provides lubrication, but also provides damping and bottoming resistance

  • @joelballard4955

    @joelballard4955

    10 ай бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium I think I get it now. The oil just provides lubricant. But, because it takes up space and is essentially sealed in the forks. the air gets compressed when the forks compress, and that resistance creates more bottoming resistance.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    10 ай бұрын

    Exactly!! Also, the way some spring perches are made, can actually provide some damping the same way the orifices on a piston provides damping.

  • @ady23nos
    @ady23nos3 жыл бұрын

    Can I make 4CS fork to OC? Without using race tech parts for example?

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    No idea 😬from what I have been researching, the 4CS are the worst recent suspensions available on the market If I were you, I would find some other forks instead of wasting money on the 4CS 😅

  • @ady23nos

    @ady23nos

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium yeah,I think my old 2010 exc 300 OC forks are much better for what I'm doing, Romaniacs style. Can I use some tuning parts to make 4cs forks to work but is too expensive for a B class rider. P.S nice and clear info on your chanel! Big like!

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely! Those were actually quite good, don't know why they discontinued those... go figure. Maybe try tuning the shim stacks?(i have a video explaining that) Thank you so much! Im glad I could help somehow 😊

  • @gotdirt66
    @gotdirt663 ай бұрын

    I cant stop but hear the count from sesame's street

  • @250txc
    @250txc2 жыл бұрын

    4:33 -- Is that free piston locked in place with no movement OR is there slack in this piston, allowing the piston to move BEFORE the spring comes into play.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's just a diagram, the piston doesn't have any play 🙂

  • @250txc

    @250txc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium I must have something wrong on mine because my piston moves 1\4 or so before the spring comes into play ...

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    It may depend on the brand, but either way when the piston is installed in the cartridge, the oil will force it upwards, eliminating any play

  • @250txc

    @250txc

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium Ok and thanks ... Are you the guy in the video with the green shirt answering my questions? Either way, thanks for the help and the videos .. ESP this one ...I had no idea what the differences actually were but having both types, as you said, I can't actually tell the difference with my riding ..

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, I am, although I'm not using the green shirt right now 😂 Glad I could help!

  • @jae-2403
    @jae-240310 ай бұрын

    Can you please explain to me why bladders are not as reliable as piston and spring 🙏

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    10 ай бұрын

    A bladder is a piece of rubber which is pressurised. The possibilities of failure are essentially all around the area of the rubber besides the areas of contact between the bladder and cartridge, so quite big. Springs on the other hand are probably one of the most reliable systems ever produced in engineering, so it's hard to go wrong with that and what provides the seal is also a really well known part - a simple O-RING, so the area of failure is a lot smaller compared to the bladder. 💪

  • @ricardobh2979
    @ricardobh29793 жыл бұрын

    Ta sumido amigo ✌

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    💪💪💪💪💪

  • @atkolkman
    @atkolkman3 ай бұрын

    Wait, how does the oil pressure drop on compression of the forks? Seems like it would increase

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 ай бұрын

    It increases on one side of the piston and decreases on the other side

  • @pointmotos3795
    @pointmotos37952 жыл бұрын

    show demais

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙌💪💪😄

  • @juniordovale144
    @juniordovale144 Жыл бұрын

    🇧🇷🤘🤘👏👏

  • @samp5690
    @samp56902 жыл бұрын

    1000 likes 👍

  • @gioge2666
    @gioge26663 жыл бұрын

    in ita?

  • @MudFarmers
    @MudFarmers Жыл бұрын

    Now I know-thank you...open for me.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    Жыл бұрын

    🙌🙌🙌🙏

  • @PXEETVLACHAINEENDURO
    @PXEETVLACHAINEENDURO3 жыл бұрын

    Showa are completly close, for the oser the real name is twin cartridge

  • @offroad3607
    @offroad36072 жыл бұрын

    My brain hurts. 😄

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Knowledge hurts when it's getting assimilated 😁🤣

  • @offroad3607

    @offroad3607

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@StepstoPodium At least now I know my WR250F has the best forks around. 🤪😉

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    2 жыл бұрын

    Eheh glad to know! 😄

  • @danielarney9729
    @danielarney97293 жыл бұрын

    Brain hurts

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @250txc
    @250txc3 жыл бұрын

    I have both and sorry but unless you are a local-hero or local-expert, you probably will not know the difference .. Actually PROs are excluded here.

  • @StepstoPodium

    @StepstoPodium

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree with you on that! 🙌

  • @karolek7171
    @karolek717110 ай бұрын

    You showed me how to take everything apart. Could you show how to take the top cap off.

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