An argument about religion in a bar, it's like they're asking for a priest to come in.

@tiredoftheworld4834

Жыл бұрын

You don’t need a priest you just need to understand the Old Testament. The Catholic Church doesn’t rely on studying the Bible. They only truly believe in the catechism. Ex Catholics who have gone to Catholic schools can tell you this. I even talked to a Catholic man and girl. The girl told me they don’t need to believe in the Bible. The man said they don’t believe in “sola scriptura” like Protestants do. Catholics have faith in their church authority and the catechism, even if it contradicts biblical scripture…

@tiredoftheworld4834

Жыл бұрын

Also my parents were Catholic so my mom explained this to me

@crayonparfait

Жыл бұрын

@@tiredoftheworld4834 I respect your perspective. I was just rephrasing “a priest walks into a bar...” rhetoric.

@sawyerking5514

Жыл бұрын

@@crayonparfait ya I love how the joke going over their head led to a solid argument for why you don’t need to be a priest to have a very solid grasp on the ideas of The Abrahamic religions

@markfergerson2145

Жыл бұрын

@@tiredoftheworld4834 Um, did you hear a whooshing sound? The bit about Catholics basing their religion on what priests say and catechism goes back to when the average churchgoer was forbidden to read. The world is kinda past that kind of thing.

As a Christian, this always confused me too. But thanks for clarifying Ben.

@computerbiscuit

Жыл бұрын

If you gave up your foreskin to the covenant of God and Abraham you are a Jew, period.

@tonyonaperky2128

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's all fun n games till u find out they ain't real jews

@davidcohenboffa1666

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyonaperky2128 Sure, bc Christians are the real Jews?

@tonyonaperky2128

Жыл бұрын

@@davidcohenboffa1666 Lmao no. So people of lighter skin completion came from Japheths line. Euro and certain Asiattic ethnic groups came from Japeth. The tribes of Isreal didn't come from the line of Japeth. They came from one of his brothers, Shem. They were of darker skin complections

@davidcohenboffa1666

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyonaperky2128 The division into Shem Ham and Yefet has nothing to do with race. (Only Ham was mentioned being dark skinned). There are many Semitic groups that natural have light skin, and many IndoEuropeans with dark skin.

There are Ethiopian Jews, Brazilian Jews, Japanese Jews, there are Jews all over the world.

@blacklotusxxxxxx

6 ай бұрын

Exactly i agree. But you wouldn't call them all the same breed of furry now would you? 😂😂😂​@@Jews_C0ntr0l_daa__worldd

@manie3232

5 ай бұрын

​@@Jews_C0ntr0l_daa__worlddWhat's a furry?

@SirAverageJoe

5 ай бұрын

@@Jews_C0ntr0l_daa__worlddAnyone can convert to Judaism 😂 They’re therefore called a Jew, dolt.

@shilatskalimba1823

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@Jews_C0ntr0l_daa__worlddthere are Ethiopian antisemitès, Brazilian antisemitès, Japanese antisemitès, there are antisemitès all over the world. (Some of them are n@zis)

@hasinabegum1038

5 ай бұрын

Japanese?

"This is a confusing question, so let me confuse you further." -Ben shapiro

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

Religion is his weakiest topic no doubt.

@jnetwork3232

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@wm_9640

Жыл бұрын

Idk it was pretty straightforward to me

@dnhg9730

Жыл бұрын

More concise, precise explanation isn't possible, I'd say.

@Ash_Queen16

Жыл бұрын

How are you still confused? Were your ears closed?

Jewish ethnicity: Full or partial ancestry from the Hebrew tribes of ancient Israel. Judaism: The religion of said people.

@Ellie_Lanzello

7 ай бұрын

I'm surprised to see people don't see how those two are NOT the same... I know it from reading the freaking Bible!

@MJ31579

7 ай бұрын

Can a person with non-Semitic roots convert? And once converted would they be seen as equal in Israel to Jews with Semitic lineage? Second question. Do Jews consider discrimination against Arabs as antisemitic? Honest question, not being sarcastic.

@naftalit3090

7 ай бұрын

To answer you first question: yes they can convert. How they are viewed depends on the viewer, some see them as less jewish, some as the same and some see them as even greater than jews who were born jewish. The second question: jews dont view arab hatred as antisemitism, because antisemitism has always been used as a word to describe jew hatred. Yes both jews and arabs are semetic, but in history anti semitism has never been used to describe hatred against arabs. Its a semantic error which we got used to using over time. You have to understand that in the west for a long period of time the jews were the only semetic inhabitants. Only in very recent history did arabs migrate to the west, and thus there came another group of people who can be considered semetic (although it is wrong to assume all people of the arab world are arab, as most people of the arab world are culturally arabized people and not of arab acestry). It would be more correct to use the word jew hatred or anti judaism, but we got used to saying antisemetic.

@DaGoyDidGood

7 ай бұрын

“Jewish ethnicity” hehehehe tooo funny. Your edited comment has made my day #makingshitup

@EzraB123

7 ай бұрын

@DaGoyDidGood You know ignoring genetic and historical evidence doesn't change anything. What's true will always be true.

It would be easier to call the ethnic people as Hebrews and the religious people as Jews/Jewish. Like how Arabs are the ethnicity but Arabs can also be Muslims, Christians or even Atheists.

@1sosukeaizen1

3 ай бұрын

There is Arab Jews too 😅. In Morocco for example but most of them went to live somewhere 😢

@hulkhuggett

2 ай бұрын

💯💯💯

@yellowsugar5096

2 ай бұрын

@FRISHR, you have Christians , Muslims and Jewish Arabs 🙄🙄🙄

@silentvoice4970

2 ай бұрын

NO

@kresivarivkah612

Ай бұрын

There are Arab Jews that speak Arabic.

Hitler did not really care about your religious practices. Most anti Jewish discrimiantion is ethnic not relligious.

I’m ethnic Jew. I don’t pull the Jew card unless they start to tell me about Jew history

@ahad1609

Жыл бұрын

If you do not believe in God you are not a Jew. God made people call themselves Jews.

@mysty0

Жыл бұрын

@@ahad1609 then Ben is wrong and its not both.. if what you are saying is true then being a Jew is a Religion and nothing more

@mile_381

Жыл бұрын

most jews are atheist

@ahad1609

Жыл бұрын

@@mile_381 do not lie

@mysty0

Жыл бұрын

@@ahad1609 he is telling the truth

Shoot, this was actually really a helpful question and response.

@XGamin1

Жыл бұрын

Bots really gettin’ drunk now. Edit: The bot's gone now, so this comment doesn't mean anything anymore.

@ihavenonameforyou1

Жыл бұрын

Not really he literally forgot the Hebrew identity which is the main difference. Jewish is a religion and you're born into it by default if your mother is Jewish as for being an Hebrew that can come from both your father and mother and both would fall under the minority statues. If minority is about persecution then I'm guessing being kicked from a ton of countries counts as being persecuted.

@bobbyhutnick3965

Жыл бұрын

@@ihavenonameforyou1 .....usually certain types of behavior gets you expelled from 109 countries

@daymonn00

Жыл бұрын

I'm with you. I wish we had more people who are as realist as he is.

@uno9915

Жыл бұрын

You could say this with everything he says

I try to separate them as ethically Jewish and a religious Jew.

@textben7607

Жыл бұрын

📩👆

@cardboardcapeii4286

7 ай бұрын

Both are bad

@grassdungeon8433

7 ай бұрын

@@cardboardcapeii4286excuse me?

@finnssden

4 ай бұрын

@@cardboardcapeii4286oh! 🥰

My Mother is Irish Catholic, & my Father is Jewish (from Israel) I've been confused all my life! 😊 I'm very spiritual, that's all i know. But I also recognize & am proud of both sides of my culture/family.

@anotherhairlessapewithanop7455

Ай бұрын

what about finances, you good at that too?

You had the 12 tribes of Israel, which split in two. 10 in the north and 2 in the south. In the South were Judah and Benjamin, the biggest being Judah for which the southern country was named. A few hundred years after the split, the Assyrians conquered the 10 Northern tribes and, while some fled south to Judah, most were dispersed by the Assyrians throughout the kingdom and non-Israelites were moved in (as Assyria did with every country they conquered). The mixed northern peoples became known as 'Samaritans'. The southern tribes became known as Judaens, or Jews. That's the ethnic half. The religious half is those who practice Judaism. After the Romans destroyed the temple in 70 AD, Judaism moved from being a temple-based religion to a tradition-based religion. Synagogues became more prominent and writings such as the Talmud and the Mishnah began to be used in conjunction with the Tanakh (the Old Testament).

@CorvoTheBlack

Жыл бұрын

Well said

@japjeetmehton9921

8 ай бұрын

So are “samaritans” jewish too? Do they face discrimination?

@frogpaste

8 ай бұрын

@@japjeetmehton9921 Samaritans were the descendents of the people Assyria moved _into_ Israel who married Israelites and had children. These people brought in their own religions and at times combined them with Judaism. They saw God as just a local or regional god they needed to appease if they were going to live there. 2 Kings 17: 24 - 41

@japjeetmehton9921

8 ай бұрын

@@frogpaste Ok so not Jewish. Got it!

@yehudahecht1520

6 ай бұрын

More accurately, oral teachings and traditions that were always used in conjunction with the Tanakh were written down in the form of the Mishnah (and later, the Talmud).

genetic studies have shown that all sephardi and ashkenazi jews (jews of southwestern and northeastern europe) come from a mixing event between ancient judeans and southern european peoples around 2000 years ago, likely a result of the roman rule and stamping out of rebellion through relocation. Mizrahi jews also have Judean ancestry, but mixed with other middle eastern and north african (berber, not sub-saharan) peoples

@ramonabdullah455

Жыл бұрын

Don't forget about The Ethiopian people.🤓

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

It also shows that ashkenazi and sephardi DNA is still closer to Mizrahi DNA than It is to Europe/ North África even after 2000 years of separation.

@celtofcanaanesurix2245

Жыл бұрын

@@ramonabdullah455 there is actual evidence a small amount of Levantine (Judean) people contributing some ancestry to the Ethiopian Jews, it is very small, and is barely present, but shows some historical connection

@shrooms679

Жыл бұрын

Which Jewish ethnic group has the most “Judean ancestry” ?

@celtofcanaanesurix2245

Жыл бұрын

@@shrooms679 probably the Mizrahi, but if so, not by much, I think the studies showed they were all about half. However if you count Samaritans as Jews then they are basically fully of Levantine genetic origin.

I’m a Christian and I remember my former church trying to be more “Jewish” because Jesus was Jewish. We adopted the Mishna and other commentaries and theologies of Orthodox Judaism and realized… in the end we were more like the Pharisees Jesus was rebuking than Jesus Himself. Jesus was Jewish by ethnicity, not the religion. There is. Major difference as you stated. I think this is probably true of any religious person who elevates laws and traditions above a relationship to fall in this trap and no one is immune. We often blur the line between what God said and what we add. People will clearly disagree with that line, and that’s okay. But when you got this question it reminded me of that experience.

@gabriel.stcharles

Жыл бұрын

Check out The Jewish Catholic

@Penny526

Жыл бұрын

Reminded me of this verse: Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world. James 1:27

@ireneanderson859

Жыл бұрын

Jesus was also a religious Jew, he read Torah in the synagogs, he was teaching deeper compassion etc

@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

As a Christian the only book that matters is the TANACH. The rest is witchcraft. The same goes to the Vatican books

@blessedcocoa5729

Жыл бұрын

@@ireneanderson859 He read the Torah, true, that is the 1st part of the Bible. But He couldn't be called a Jew by faith because He said He is God. That isn't Jewish

Serious question: If Noah is historical fact (and everyone else was destroyed in the flood); then aren’t we ALL Jewish?

@33TimberWolf

Жыл бұрын

@@LindseyDara Thank you (and for the reference).

@briandfox16

Жыл бұрын

Noah was not Jewish. Abraham was the first Jew.

@mariabop

7 ай бұрын

Noah story is fake

@33TimberWolf

7 ай бұрын

@@mariabop So fake that every known culture has a great flood documented? Seems a bit odd…. Or maybe…

@wilhite87

3 ай бұрын

@@33TimberWolf Agreed, true statement. Except, Christians and Jews say those other religions are fake

My fathers mother converted from Judaism to Southern Baptist to marry my fathers father. My siblings and I consider ourselves partly Jewish in ethnicity, but not at all religiously.

@jamespgray6928

Жыл бұрын

So, grandmother and grandfather??

@taylorlibby7642

Жыл бұрын

@@jamespgray6928 Nope. I wrote what I meant.

@gypsy-nr9zd

Жыл бұрын

But it’s matrilineal. So if ur dad’s mom was Jewish, yes he is as well. But if YOUR mom isn’t Jewish or her mom wasn’t, then you are NOT Jewish. According to their laws. My daughter’s father is Jewish and I’m not so our child would be considered non Jewish because I’m not Jewish and it’s passed down through the mom. But u do have people who’s fathers are Jewish and mothers are not who identify as Jews despite their law saying they don’t count as Jews

@svietka202

Жыл бұрын

so your paternal grandma was Jewish before she converted. even though she converted it still makes your father Jewish i (n a way) but in no way shape or form does it give you any association with Jews.

@Duffy72

Жыл бұрын

That’s SOOO weird, my mother was southern Baptist and converted to marry my dad! But I have never been to a Temple, and she never went after…faux Jew lol

People forget how old the Jewish (Judean) people are. When we originated most tribal/nation people also had their own religion. Technically we are a tribe or collection of tribes that formed a nation.

@ES-wn4oq

Жыл бұрын

Correct. His narrative is astoundingly false.

@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

@@ES-wn4oq Religious/Rabbinical

@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

We are descendant from a brotherhood of 12. One big family.

Thank you once again for this education. Appreciate it very much!!

@joebone1961

7 ай бұрын

Sips kool-aid

Jews are first and foremost a race. This is why terms such as “half-Jew” are commonly used, while you cannot be “half-Christian.” While you can “convert” to Judaism, this is more similar to acquiring a new citizenship than becoming a member of a new religion. If you are White and become a Japanese citizen, for example, you are a Japanese citizen, not a true Japanese person. Just like Shintoism is the religion of the Japanese race, Judaism is the “religion” of the Jewish race.

When we read the Bible we get genealogy tracked through the father, why did this change to the mother?

@Teller3448

Жыл бұрын

Tracking through the maternal line yields more certainty.

@agmsc222

Жыл бұрын

The Bible is the source that Judaism is passed down through the mother, only before the giving of the law as reported in the Bible was Judaism patrilineal.

@carnivorewitch

Жыл бұрын

In Judaism the religious claim is tracked through the maternal lineage. It’s based on tradition that’s based on a verse in Deuteronomy which states “You shall not intermarry with [foreigners], you shall not give your daughter to his son or take their daughters for your sons because they’ll turn your children away from me (God).” I actually think this was misinterpreted by Rabbis and scholars over the years. It just means don’t marry outside of Judaism, but they took it as that Jewishness had to be determined by the mother. It doesn’t make sense to me how people in Russia for example all of a sudden can find out they’re Jewish from their great grandmothers and are completely removed from the Jewish religion. And people who have Jewish fathers and no. Jewish mothers who were born in Israel can’t be Jews unless they converted. It’s weird. I’m contrast Christianity and Islam use the patriarchal lineage to determine the Children’s religion (more so in Islam) because it’s more of a socio-political chess move since women didn’t have equal say than men. Through the father, there would be more worshippers of the religion especially if he can marry more than one wife (Islam). It’s for the purposes of expansion.

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

The link to the tribes is through the father, the jewish ethnos comes from the mother. So you know you are a Levi or a Cohen by studying the genealogy of your father, and If you are jewish by the genealogy of your mother. If your father is jewish but your mother is not, you have historical link to the tribes ( but not direct link as you are not jewish anymore). If your mother is jewish but your father is not, you are jewish but you have no direct link to one of the 12 tribes.

@ES-wn4oq

Жыл бұрын

@@carnivorewitch It's easier to be certain who the mother is. It was a common practice through invasions and pogroms to murder, rape, etc. And the reason people can find out they're Jewish way down the line is that many Jews had to hide their identities in many places, in order to survive and not be killed. Sometimes their own children didn't know. Especially soviet Russia, where religious practice was completely forbidden. This led to people who were and are completely unaware of or disconnected from their roots and ancestry.

That's as clear as mudd!

@leeking1939

5 ай бұрын

Haha 😂

Ben, being ethnically Jewish and practicing the religion are not always the same. Just try that argument with the Nazis. Ffs, racists don't care whether we practice our religion or not. Yes, ethnic Jews ARE a minority, and we all have more than just a cultural connection. I hear this bs only from orthodox Jews who want to discount any Jew who doesn't meet their standard of religious observance. Just because my cousin and I, for example, hold different levels of observation doesn't mean she's any less Jewish than I am. What you say supports antisemitism.

@ncorp2668

Жыл бұрын

Right, he's only creating more confusion. He should preface that this is his opinion and what he believes to be important and not discount non-religious ethnic Jews. He might also want to remember how Zionism is originally a secular Jewish movement.

@curses6166

9 ай бұрын

Well well well

@curses6166

9 ай бұрын

​@@ncorp2668Zionists are disgusting

@TheHoodVoice2024

3 ай бұрын

Nazis were extremists that still doesn’t mean it’s an ethnic group. Anyone with common sense knows it’s a religion. No other religious group claims their religion is an ethnic group.

@silentvoice4970

2 ай бұрын

He may also want to observe how the Holocaust targeted non-practicing Jews; an over 50% majority. So what; we're Jewish when it's time to get rounded up, but not when it's time to pull together & support each other? That's bs.

Love being Jewish ❤️✡️Am Yisrael chai ✡️❤️

So I am Jewish I am not a Jew To dig a little bit more into that is my parents are Jewish but don't do any of the practices or follow any of the religious laws and we never have So ethnically I am Jewish But my family is a Christian family so we practice the religion of Christianity even though we are Jewish When I'm describing what I mean by I'm both Jewish and Christian people are mostly confused because they wonder how we can be both I'm a Christian in religion and ethnically a Jew

@arieldavis3662

Жыл бұрын

do you know if there would be a difference between that and Messianic Judaism? i had one or two friends growing up who were Messianic Jews, but i wasn’t too sure on what the difference would be between that and Christianity

@ES-wn4oq

Жыл бұрын

@@arieldavis3662 Messianic Jews aren't Jews at all. They believe in things that are flagrantly against the core principles of Judaism. They're co-opting Judaism and using the name as a means to convert Jews to Christianity. It's quite malevolent and no Jews anywhere think of them as Jews.

@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

@@arieldavis3662 I am a Messianic Jew. The biggest difference is that first an foremost, we are ethnic Jews. We accept the so called "Christian" Messiah. The truth is, the entire Tanach has prophecies and scripture about Him. The Vatican "abducted" Him.

@exnihilonihilfit6316

8 ай бұрын

​@@gingipwHeal what's left of your mind.

Of course it's both, and more; a religion, an ethnicity, a nation (Israel) , and sub-cultures (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrachi, Beta...) within a larger culture. Sometimes these things don't fit into neat boxes.

@textben7607

Жыл бұрын

📩👆

I am a big fan of Ben Shapiro, but Ben Shapiro does not speak for the Jewish people. He is also not representative of the Jewish people. He is a Jewish person who only has the authority to speak for himself. Any Jews listening to his proclamations should take it in that limited context. Any non-Jews listening to it should dismiss it as the opinion of one person. That said, I agree with some of what he said. But, historically it's simply not true. Christians, Muslims and Hitler never cared how religous Jews were when they persecuted us. We thought we were Germans or Poles, they told us that we weren't and that we were diluting the purity of their race. Even if we converted it didn't matter. When my great-grandparents were standing in line for the gas chambers, the Nazis didn't ask how religous they were. It simply didn't matter. Your Jewish identity was on your birth certificate and on the census. You were denoted as "other." Also, despite what Ben thinks, the extreme right doesn't consider him to be white, even if he considers himself to be a member of the white race. Some of us get to "pass" as members of the white race because of our skin pigmentation but if society radicalizes, even in U.S.A., it won't matter. In Nazi Germany, those of us with white skin, blonde hair and blue eyes (considered features of the "Aryan Race") were killed just the same.

@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

Spot on. Genes (ethnicity) has nothing to do with religion

@kymhaythorpe9791

Жыл бұрын

How,and Who gets to decide who can speak for Jewish?🤔

@abdirahmanidris290

Жыл бұрын

And why were the jews persecuted

@briandfox16

Жыл бұрын

@@abdirahmanidris290 Easy. If you're Christian then you were raised to believe Jews killed Jesus, the son of god. If you're Muslim then you are raised to believe that Jews rejected the prophet Jesus and the last prophet Muhammad pbuh. Those beliefs are central to both Christian and Muslim beliefs about Jews, even today. Basically, Jews are on the losing side of the Worlds two most dominant live action role playing games. In India, China and Japan there has never been an issue with Jewish persecution because Christianity and Islam are not part of the mainstream culture.

@iLoveScience_27

11 ай бұрын

We should note that Jews were forbidden from practicing Judaism in Nazi Germany. So the Germans, at least to some extent, did care about the religion aspect as well.

Not arguing the premise but I need clarification. If a Jewish woman has a child that child is Jewish ethnically. If said child converts in later life to...say, Catholicism the child is a Jewish Catholic?

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

Yes jewish catholic, he will be jewish by ethnicity and catholic by religion.

@Lily-rz8mg

8 ай бұрын

@@diurmidderggae3007 Yes, there are people who are Jewish Catholics and identify as such. Look up Roy Schoeman, Edith Stein, Marie-Alphonse Ratisbonne... They are ethnically Jewish, but they changed their religion to Catholicism. They called themselves both Jewish and Catholic from that point on.

So... If it's "both because of religion", then it's only a religion, because religion is essentially an opinion. You can't choose to make up your own race.

@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

His wrong

As someone who knows very little about this, I honestly appreciate the question and explanation. Thank you.

I am Catholic but partly ethnically Jewish, and nearly never bring it up, but if I do, I just say ethnic/ashkenazi Jew.

This man and his family are not one of the 12 Tribes of Israel. All 12 Tribes are Black Hebrews.

my dad is jewish my mom is catholic, i was raised catholic but i also learned about the jewish religion and did the celebrations and holidays with my fathers side too.. it was always a confusing thing for me during school

@racheli2598

Жыл бұрын

How do you identify or feel about religion now?

@TheHoodVoice2024

22 күн бұрын

It’s a religion

So glad I am converting to Conservative and raising my son Orthodox. I love your sisters KZread channel being a mom and providing insight! Shalom Ben Shapiro!

@jsw7814

Жыл бұрын

Conservatives are Uber liberals.

@Star-qh5wp

Жыл бұрын

Wanted to let you know that your son will have problems in the orthodox community because they do not recognize conservative convertees… only orthodox converts are accepted. That’s because orthodox practice all 613 mitzvos and conservatives not.

@jsw7814

Жыл бұрын

@Christian Pappas your lord and that’s fine.

As a Christian we were taught Jesus was a Jew and the Jewish people are Gods chosen people and in no way would ever disrespect or harm anyone that is Gods chosen people we were only saved by the grace of Jesus sacrifice. Trying to claim it Jewish when you are not that is disrespectful and just can't do it.

Being Jewish in the context of a race is also used by antisemtic nations like the former Soviet Union (where I’m from) and on your passport, where it said nationality, it would say Jewish vs. Lativian, Russian, Ukrainian, etc.

@cloroxbleach2520

9 ай бұрын

Russian IDs don't have the field for ethnicity since the 90s

@cardboardcapeii4286

7 ай бұрын

The Soviet Union was the opposite of anti semitic.

If that's the case then why does Ancestry and 23&Me have the ability to identify "Jewish" as people's ethnic background? You can still be ethnically Jewish and not strictly practice Judaism.

@jeremytheimer7443

Жыл бұрын

He literally just explained it. He said people use their bloodline as an excuse for political gains. Even then the so called ethnically Jewish standard has its flaws. As people with Jewish fathers but not Jewish mothers are not considered ethnically Jewish.

@ES-wn4oq

Жыл бұрын

100 percent correct. He's literally spreading misinformation here and talking nonsense. Judaism is an ethnoreligion, not a religion at all.

@emmanuelgoldspleen2905

Жыл бұрын

You’re talking about Ashkenazi Jewish right? Well that’s because all Ashkenazis are genetically related to one another. Because there were only 350 individuals during the Middle Ages in Germany, and because of this bottleneck, all of them are very closely related. So this includes Russian Jews, Austrian Jews, Hungarian Jews, Lithuanian Jews, Dutch Jews and so on.

@jeremytheimer7443

Жыл бұрын

@@emmanuelgoldspleen2905 Well of course, however sometimes it makes more sense to refer to Judaism as a religion as it is just so old. There are Jews from Ethiopia too.

@ES-wn4oq

Жыл бұрын

@@emmanuelgoldspleen2905 Actually, all Jews are related to each other, not just Ashkenazi. Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrachi, etc, all have similar DNA markers. In fact Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are more closely related than for example, Russian Jews were to their Russian neighbors.

I wish I could pick his brain on the areas of Sephardi Judaism. My family were conversos that left Spain for Cuba so idk how the intersect of religion and ethnicity. I don’t claim being Jewish as a minority but I don’t practice due to generations of gun point Catholicism. So not sure where I’d fall there

@lim7lim

Жыл бұрын

It's not exactly Sephardic. Sephardic Jews are not closet Jews, they just have slightly different customs than Ashkenazi Jews, but are openly practicing Jews. Sounds like you have an interesting family history. There's actually quite a lot of information on the net about converses who investigated their Jewish roots and what they discovered.

@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

Well brother, you are still a descendant of one of the tribes of Israel. Judah or another tribe. Religion DOES NOT Count. Faith in the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob, acceptance of His TORAH and willingness to be part of His people is all you need.

Thank you! I have known many who pull this card when being asked and do not practice Judaism. I am a Jewish person who follows the religion, had a bat mitzvah, observes Shabbat, and goes to synagogue and I now realize that some people will talk about how their grandfather or someone related to them is Jewish so they are not just Caucasian. I find no problem with people being Caucasian and don’t feel that people should be ashamed and use being another race or ethnicity as a victim card. Thank you for telling us the difference ❤

I disagree with the later statement. That is like saying a non Hindu Indian person is not Indian if he is Catholic, Muslim, Luciferian or Athiest

Im 25% racially Jewish but I’m religiously Catholic, so there

@SatokoChaaan

Жыл бұрын

Though no matter the religion, you would still have a lost Jewish soul in the case of your maternal grandmother being the Jewish one.

I'm more confused now. Thanks jew

My grandmother is Jewish and my mom used to be Jewish, now both me and my mom are Christian

I'm ethnicity Jewish- but trying to get into the religious side much more. My father is the jew. So technically I'm both. But ethnicity speaking it's the same as saying you're Greek or Polish.

@TheHoodVoice2024

3 ай бұрын

No it’s not the same as saying you’re Greek or polish 🤷🏽‍♂️. That doesn’t even make since

"Jewish atheists", always felt like an oxymoron, since what set Jews apart from other peoples was their religion with God

@HughJorgan1

Жыл бұрын

I think “Jewish atheists” are as rare as “Ex Muslims”.n

@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

set apart from God. Faith is no religion.

Yeah, none of this is true. The word "race" is essentially meaningless and best avoided. Judaism is an ethnicity. The ethnicity has an associated religion of the same name and other associated aspects too like "Jewish art", "Jewish food", "Jewish history" etc.

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

It is true and both historical records and DNA tests can show it. Historical and DNA data don't care about your feelings.

@briandfox16

Жыл бұрын

@@diurmidderggae3007 Yes. But it's because Jews have tended to be genetically homogenious because of low rates of conversion. In short Jews typically marry other Jews and go on to make Jewish Children.

It’s simple. Their race is their religion.

Yeah, that doesn’t change the fact that Jews are still “white” Caucasians. Yes, they are distinct from other white Caucasians for a variety of reasons, but the same can be said for Italians, Turks, Eastern Europeans, even Middle Easterners (who yes, are Caucasian people too).

I've been very confused about this for a while. Thank you for explaining what it is to be Jewish. My stupid brain thanks you.

One deficiency with your answer is that historically, whether one practices a form of Judaism or rejects its precepts entirely mattered not at all to tyrants who wanted to persecute Jews. It there were Jews in your ancestry, as far as they were concerned, you were a Jew and therefore subject to persecution. It's not trying to have it both ways to recognize that one is a member of a certain minority while not participating in the practices that defined the minority in the first place.

@saelmar

Жыл бұрын

Edith Stein was a Catholic nun of Jewish ancestry who was killed in WW2 for being a “Jew”.

@GreenGearMood

Жыл бұрын

I'm curious. Why do so many different countries want them persecuted so badly? I can't think of another group that has run into this many issues.

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

@@GreenGearMood If you spend your time improving yourself instead of staying on 4chan obssesing with jews all day long you may find a girlfriend and enjoy life more.

@GreenGearMood

Жыл бұрын

@@diurmidderggae3007 Bad reply. Worthy of a leftist.

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

@@GreenGearMood Fine, then keep building your personal hell instead of improving yourself to get our of It.

Pro tip: When someone uses the line "as a Jew" in their opening remark about something, they don't know the first thing about Judaism.

Amazing ben! I’m pasty white but my mother is Jewish, and I’m so proud of my heritage and I feel so much better for being religious

Typically having a Jewish mother makes one Jewish but that individual might not practice Judaism. All original Jews converted to the monotheistic religion by a process outlined in the bible. Jewish converts typically go through a process. Once the process of a adopting the lifestyle and converting to Judaism is complete there are rules that depend on denomination on if your family is considered Jewish as well considering the religious lifestyle changes.

@GreenGearMood

Жыл бұрын

And everyone does this so they can join an extremely nepotistic elite class, let's be honest. Really foul behavior codified by thousands of years of tradition.

@wavesofdarkmatter3101

Жыл бұрын

@@GreenGearMood I mean that may be the case for something superficial like catholicism which has been associated with numerous sexual abuse scandals. I believe that being openly Jewish opens more doors for real discrimination and hatred even in the United States.

@GreenGearMood

Жыл бұрын

@@wavesofdarkmatter3101 Discrimination by who? Where? Whoopie Goldberg is not her real name, and you can see the good it did her by changing it.

@wavesofdarkmatter3101

Жыл бұрын

@@GreenGearMood Do I really have to explain true anti semitism?

@GreenGearMood

Жыл бұрын

@@wavesofdarkmatter3101 What a nonsensical word that is. It acts like it's so much more special than the other antis that it doesn't have to put 'jew' anywhere in the word.

I consider myself Jewish but I don't practice, but I put my life on the line to protect other Jewish people.

@franksckupakus8665

Жыл бұрын

Smart

@scampifrity

6 ай бұрын

Biology doesn't care about your feelings. If your mother is not Jew you cannot pronounce yourself as Jew. Do the test go to Israel and tell them you consider yourself Jewish without any proof of genetic race purity ( from Jew mother ).

Diversity is everywhere 🤷‍♂️

@textben7607

Жыл бұрын

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As someone who is Diagnosed with Judaism (Ashkenazi to be exact) I can confirm that it is BOTH

@TheHoodVoice2024

3 ай бұрын

🤷🏽‍♂️ so can Ethiopians, Nigerians, Mexicans, Indians, Arabs and people from countries all through Europe How can that even be possible🤷🏽‍♂️ It’s a religion

There's a reason that people who look Jewish...LOOK Jewish. There's definitely a physical difference sometimes. The hair, the eyes, the nose, the shape of the face...even height. A lot of Jews are visibly similar and different from Europeans, particularly the Anglo-Saxon Europeans. Some Jews are light skinned and others are dark.

Ben is confusing people further. The idea of Jews only being traced religiously or matrilineally is a cultural and religious notion. If we're talking about ethnic Jews, then we're talking about father lineage as well. And he's very aware that plenty of Jews are secular and are still Jewish, regardless of following religious practices. Culture and ethnicity is a lot more nuanced.

@dannygibson2597

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I got into a big argument about this recently. Personally I find the narrative that there's no Jewish ethnicity asinine. We know 75% of the Jewish population in the world is Ashkenazi. The vast majority are from the same ethnic diaspora. There have been polls where most Israeli and US Jews define their Jewishness by ancestry and culture, not religion. So how exactly is being Jewish just based on practicing Judaism? It doesn't make sense.

@ncorp2668

Жыл бұрын

@@dannygibson2597 I'm not even sure Ben truly believes what he's saying. I think he's trying to push the point that *he* cares more about religion than lineage, but he's only confusing people even more.

Why doesn't Judaism appear as a race on forms and paperwork?

@purple.9919

Жыл бұрын

Because it is considered a religion. Religion is not ethnicity.

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

@@purple.9919 No, It is a ethnicity and repeating a lie 100 times will never change that. DNA cant find religions, and DNA can show If a person is Sephardi or Ashkenazi etc.

@vanessasanchez9518

Жыл бұрын

Ethnicity is quite a bit more specific than race

@briandfox16

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it does in former Soviet Countries and is docunented on birth certificates that way. It's not in the U.S.A., which defines Race by reference to skin pigmentation. That said, Race is a Social Construct. Grouping people by skin tone, and assigning meaning or value to that, is as arbitrary as any other physical characteristic, such as eye and hair color, or height.

I have got a question, my father is Jewish, my mother is not… so technically I am not a Jew according to the religion. I have lived in Israel my whole life, celebrated the national and religious holidays and in general identity and resonate deeply with Jews. Am I a Jew? In terms of religion I am sure I am not. But what about race? Or ethnic group?

Pin please? To clarify what he’s saying it’s not necessarily a race like Asians or Australians but it’s also more than just a religion it’s the culture and fallowing of judaism. So if you are related to someone who fallows the religion but you don’t and you don’t live with the culture he was talking about how many will call them self Jewish anyway as a way to seem more like a minority when they aren’t. Hope this helped clear up any confusion.

Thanks, Ben! 👍

Shalom! I'm a Christian Ashkenazi Jew!! I love my heritage so much and I am saved by Jesus Christ through faith alone. Thanks so much for clearing this up for other people!

@earth2emma

Жыл бұрын

That’s not a thing. You’re what we call a “meshumed” or heretic

I don't call us "ethnic"... I call us "Family".

@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

Fine by me, just don't mix the religious stinch.

My ex was Jewish but I as a non-Jewish Christian had to teach her how to practice Jewish traditions (like how to light a menorah). My mom and I tried to get her to go to our church and she used the excuse "We'll, my dad would be mad if I didn't go to synagogue."... so we found one locally and said "Ok let's go to synagogue."... still didn't want to go. So yeah she was a Jew but wasn't a practicing Jew.

Never realized how much Ben looks like Bert from Bert & Ernie on Sesame Street.

Only “both” for tax purposes 😎

You can also learn all about being Jewish from Adam Sandler’s Hanukkah song.

Judaism is a religion that different ethnicities follow such as Turkic khazars ,Slavic Ashkenazi,morrocon Berbers…… Just like every other religion

Jesus is coming back soon, Ben! Give those JEWISH books in the New Testament another read, Sir. They fulfil all prophecies. God bless and thank you.

@textben7607

Жыл бұрын

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@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

True BUT the books he reads have nothing to do with the Hebrew Bible

@rayjonbrice2653

Жыл бұрын

The Talmud?

@kymhaythorpe9791

Жыл бұрын

Why would he come back ? He got nailed pretty bloody quick last time he was here. How does a guy nailed to a cross help anyone??!??

Jewish is a RELIGION.. There's no such thing as an ethnic jew and the modern jews are actually Turkish from Khazaria. They assimilated and adopted the Hebrew religion in the 7th Century.

@firestorm6836

Жыл бұрын

This is factually wrong and absurd. There is countless documentation of Jewish people being an ethnic group (an ancient Egyptian inscription even refers to Jews as a people in 1500 B.C.) and how would you than explain the fact that the Jews were occupied by the Romans in 70 A.D.?

@leoangulo3709

Жыл бұрын

I'm Jewish and Mexican..... My mom was Jewish, so I'm half Jewish and Mexican... So dope don't know what's he's talking about .. like there's Mexican Americans The Jews came from everywhere, European Jews ,the Russian Jews, The Ethiopian Jews, American Jews and middle east Jews...

@leoangulo3709

Жыл бұрын

The 12 tribes from Israel, that were scattered all over the world in the Babylonian time

@GreenGearMood

Жыл бұрын

@@firestorm6836 Document all you like. That doesn't make it so.

@patrickdixon7202

Жыл бұрын

@@firestorm6836 Nope.

Thanks Ben.... this came up tonight as my daughter was doing her social studies homework. There's nothing in her reading of course, but it asked about why it was important that Arabs and Jews claim to be descendants of Abram/Abraham, and to explain how it is that Jews are a race and their faith is Judaism... so the inference being that being Jewish is both a race and a religion.

They come from the tribe a Juda. Making it an ethnic group and bloodline. This argument mostly comes from this new “Jesus was black” thing. Which of course he was not. He did not come from the tribe of Ham which is where the predominant melanin skin tone came from. He was also not white as many have portrayed him. He was Jewish, in faith and race.

This was a very contradictory answer.

@agmsc222

Жыл бұрын

It's a hard topic to cover in a 1 minute video. To try and be more clear, there is a religion of Judaism which is clearly a foundational aspect of what Judaism is, but the practice of the religion of Judaism or lack thereof has nothing to do with whether someone is Jewish or not. This is probably the shortest way to say the answer is both. The real answer is Judaism doesn't exactly fit into modern Western constructs of being a Religion or a Race since it predates those concepts.

@GreenGearMood

Жыл бұрын

@@agmsc222 I'd say it would be very easy to cover in less than 10 seconds! "It's all nonsense." There. Was that such a mouthful?

Preach.....PRAY for our CHILDREN. Amen! CHICAGO is a HELL HOLE for CHILDREN.

@textben7607

Жыл бұрын

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Here’s some history for you. Ashkenazi Jews aren’t really descendants of Israelites, but the Khazars, a nomadic Turkic group that converted to Judaism. They then migrated to Europe and created their own communities. Genetically, they can’t find Levant ancestry in Ashkenazi Jews. But those like Shapiro don’t want you to know this.

Remember what he said , It's only both because of religion. Dont let that go over your head.

This is completely false and uninformed, which I find supremely surprising, given how educated I usually think Ben is. Judaism was never thought of as a religion, for thousands of years. Judaism as a "religion" is a fairly modern invention. For example, Napoleon allowed Jews to merge with French society, but in order to do so, said that Jews need to leave their ethnic identities behind and view it as just a religion. He essentially erased and colonized Jewish identity to assimilate them into society. This thought has spread and even Jews themselves, as can be seen here by Ben, have a colonized idea of their own identity. Native Americans are a people, a tribe, a nation, and have spiritual and religious practices built into their people hood. Judaism is the same way. It's an ethnicity, a culture, a people, but Judaism also has land-based religious and spiritual practices (based primarily around Judea, or modern Israel). You do not need to be religious whatsoever to be Jewish. There are Jewish atheists, Jews who aren't spiritual at all, ethnic and cultural Jews, and religious Jews. All Jews. You can not practice religion at all, but take a 23andme DNA test and still be identified as Jewish. You can't take a DNA test to show you're Muslim, or Christian, by contrast. Jews are not white, in fact. Sociologically not white, as Jews were literally murdered for not being white enough less than 100 years ago. Let me know if "white" Jews can join the white kkk. And ethnically Jews aren't white either. Jews are from the Levant, originally, which is a lighter skinned area. Look at Iranians, Lebanese, look at the current Supreme leader of Iran. "White" as white. Outside of this, race is a fake construct regardless, but for the context of this discussion, Jews aren't white. Ben, disappointed that you're completely off the mark here. Do better.

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

Religion is usually his weakiest topic.

@ES-wn4oq

Жыл бұрын

@@diurmidderggae3007 That's just surprising to me. He knows better than anyone else that if you don't know what you're talking about, don't spread falsehoods as if you do. He has a big audience, and he's spreading nonsense.

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

@@ES-wn4oq He probably believes he is correct. But his knowledge is of a praticizing jew not of a rabbi. He should Focus on politics and allow people who dedicate their life for religious studies to answer those questions. Also he is always surrounded by christians so there is probably somekind of unconscious ecumenism going on, as you can ser about his views on abortion

Hebrew is an ethnicity. Saying that Jewish is an ethnicity is like saying Hindu is an ethnicity, or Islam is an ethnicity. Then we have the Ashkenazi and Sephardic labels. Let’s not forget Orthodox and Hasidic. It’s like the many branches of Christianity…and Christian is not an ethnicity. Gawd, Ben, wth?

this is ridiculous it is a religion not a race anyone from any race can be jewish

@menachempike4489

5 ай бұрын

no

@menachempike4489

5 ай бұрын

only if you accept all the laws

@JohnJeraldJadonJohnson

2 ай бұрын

You can become a a citizen of a nation that you have no ethnic ties to. That makes you a citizen, but not a true member of that nation’s race (assuming she has one).

Why is it nowadays So important for people's religion and beliefs to be outspoken it doesn't matter what religion or what color you are You are either a good person or a bad person people need to quit worrying about anything other than that.

I hope very soon Jew’s realize Jesus is the savior that they’ve been waiting for.

2 gentile business men meet on the street. One askes "how's business?". The other reply's "great!".

@jnetwork3232

Жыл бұрын

LMFAOOOO

@hellpermonkey

Жыл бұрын

ehyy someone got it XD

I've had many discussions about this, never really figured it out. Great question, thanks for answering.

@textben7607

Жыл бұрын

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I would actually like to see a video of Ben explaining what Judaism is and what they believe and maybe what he believes if he felt comfortable sharing because I am really curious about what Ben believes

Jesus is my Lord and savior

@vaquera9368

Жыл бұрын

He’s Jewish isn’t he?

@praizzzeGod

Жыл бұрын

@@vaquera9368 this is not a discussion. I was making a personal declaration. Thanks

@calebgamer1720

Жыл бұрын

@@vaquera9368 ethnically yes, religiously no

@HughJorgan1

Жыл бұрын

@@calebgamer1720 ..Actually, historians believe Jesus was a preacher for Judaism, which makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Particularly since he’s the son of the God Jews worship. Please don’t go too far down this rabbit hole. I’m an atheist.

Thank you for that. So to be clear, a white atheist Jew can't do that weird, play it both Ways, thing?

@paddynelson3586

Жыл бұрын

@@Harry_Tick and that's a good thing, "Right?"

@HughJorgan1

Жыл бұрын

As a white atheist American I can relate lol.

@paddynelson3586

Жыл бұрын

@MrX I'm pretty sure IAM okay with this.

I disagree completely. Hitler did not persecute us for our religion-he persecuted us for our ethnic background since we came from outside of Europe originally. Hitler didn’t care whether someone practised Judaism the religion or not. You could have a single ethnically Jewish grandparent and still be sent to a camp.

As far as I know the bloodline is refered to as Hebrew, like I am Hebrew by blood but I don't practice Judaism, so I am Hebrew but not Jewish, that's how it was explained to me anyway.

@gingipw

Жыл бұрын

A Hebrew/Israel can be a descendant of one of the 12 tribes. A Jew, for the matter, is a descendant of the tribe of Judah. What the men in black did was to hijack the term fro their religion.

So where does your loyalty lie? America or Israel? Does it come down to a matter of convenience?

@calebgamer1720

Жыл бұрын

Israel of course just like all Jews

Jesus is lord

@HughJorgan1

Жыл бұрын

You know he was Jewish right?

In Israel it’s our nationality as well if you’re Jewish. We are also Jews as a nation not only our religion. Though Arabs who live in Israel for example weather they are Christians or Muslims their nationality is still Arabic. I guess this is part of where the confusion of people come.

I’m a Russian Jew, also sefardic. I’m not religious but I know other people who r very religious, being religious is hard bec there r many rules. 💯👍💯👍

No, it's not both. A Jew is someone who is descended from the tribe of Judah or someone who lives in the region of Judea. Stop with the satanic bullcrap.

@manubishe

Жыл бұрын

What are you, and why doesn't the world recognise only the Arabs of the Arab peninsula?

@bob733333

Жыл бұрын

@@manubishe What am I? I don't care what "the world" recognizes.

@Arginne

Жыл бұрын

Anyone can convert to Judaism. Nice try tho 👍🏻

@bob733333

Жыл бұрын

@@Arginne That does not magically make you a Jew. You are only fooling yourself. Saying "I'm Jewish" does not make you suddenly become a Jew.

@bob733333

Жыл бұрын

@@Arginne Have you read Revelation chapter 2 and 3?

Henry Ford’s book international Jew explains all this.

Well I was born to a Italian (catholic) mother and a Jewish Father. My parents Raised us Luthern (not kidding) we observed Jewish holidays and traditions but, I don’t consider us Jewish neither do my 5 brothers and 3 sisters

Ben, Gentiles do convert to become Jewish all the time, so it’s not an ethnicity. It’s a belief system that you identify as! Also people leave the Jewish religion all the time (although extremists like you still claim them to be jews) In the USA many former Jews are now Buddhists. You don’t get to claim them as Jews, they are free Americans with rights!

@HughJorgan1

Жыл бұрын

When people convert I thought they were just becoming Jewish in the religious sense? Just like if an atheist converts to Christianity. It’s silly for anyone to think they can change their ethnicity. Mind you, there’s people who think they can change their gender so….

@Arginne

Жыл бұрын

True but technically once youre a Jew you can never not be a Jew even if you stop practicing

@hansolo8225

Жыл бұрын

@@Arginne It’s like they claim your soul forever. It almost as bad as leaving Islam.

Yeah I’m Asian and born a Christian and we are call the Karen we were Christian’s ever since Christianity was made the day Jesus raise from the dead true facts yall

Very good explanation. My maternal grandparents left Europe between the 1st and 2nd WWs due to difficulties and prejudices of themselves because they practiced Judaism. Myself, I don't practice Judaism but some of my siblings do. Judaism has however effected aspects of my life. From the simple: I was an adult and had quit Christmas for other reasons before I realized red and green were "Christmas colors". My childhood home was always decorated in blue and silver and recall that one of my older siblings complaining it look to much like Hanukkah.To the more complex: My children's cousin was killed by a homicide bomber at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. I'm almost have one black grandparent. There is nothing in my life that has caused me to think there was anything in my life that makes me a minority deserving special treatment. Well, wait a minute I have used my ancestry to prove that no matter what people think I look like, neither I nor my ancestors perpetrated slavery in the US and thus are under no obligation to pay people who think their poverty is due to slavery.

Love Ben's politics but this isn't right. Just because your mom qent to catholic church on Sundays doesn't make you catholic. Anyone of any race can be Jewish same or any religion. Only people who live by Jewish law can be Jewish just as those who live under Muslim or Catholic can only claim that.

@diurmidderggae3007

Жыл бұрын

" Anyone of any race can be jewish " This is true, as long as they convert, and by the conversion they are drafted to the jewish people. " Only people who live by jewish law can be jewish " this is incorrect as the word is also used to describe a ethnicity, unlike Islam or Catholicism which are Just religions.

Possibly the least controversial thing said by Ben